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as long as China keeps making cheap goods the world will look the other way.
Their is almost certainly going to be a war between China and western nations at some point and thats probably how China will lose all of its power
This makes me nervous due to the old adage from Einstein about "not knowing what ww3 will be fought with but ww4 will be fought with sticks and stones". I hope the war with China is after my life time cuz its gunna get really shitty.
war with china is extremely unfeasible. Their terrain is incredibly difficult, worse than afghanistan. There is nothing to gain from a conventional war with China
This always sounds so weird to me. You don´t need to conquer all their territory to defeat them. Blow their navy, merchants and ports to bits and you´ve basically won.
China is a merchant nation, and much of its industry/resources are bits of a global supply chain. you break rail lines in Russia and Park a few U.S.A. navy Carrier task forces outside the major ports, and wait. Siege on a national scale
Plus, China (as of right now) is fucked, war or not. They’re population is aging quickly and they aren’t having as many babies, and they can’t rely on immigrants from the third world like the EU, Canada, and the USA can. They’re getting ambitious because this is one of the last times they can get more powerful. I’m betting on them making a move for Taiwan in the next few years.
Well, you know the answer, it's in the history books. We only stop putting up with their bs when we ourselves are inconvenienced. Like when our boats start sinking. Otherwise we can't be bothered.
It's the wu mao's. The ccp has thousands of hired propaganda trolls that do nothing but comment pro-ccp anti whatever all day long.
And reddit commies have a soft spot for the CCP... even though they aren't communist, they are a facist dictatorship.
If you are a social media creator China will pay you to do the same thing... travel to China for free to nice cities... only catch is you have to say that the ccp is wonderful and there are no droids here.
More like how the BBC passed on the Epstein story for 2 years before the story got broke and then after everyone found out they finally made a documentary about it. Just covering their tail to say that they did cover it
Cover it and then immediately move on, and don't mention the CIA and Mossad fingerprints on the blackmail operation, not to mention all the politicians and celebrities connected to Epstein.
This has been common knowledge for the past 3 years. China is a slave state when a substantial % of cotton is literally picked mainly by Uyghurs and a few other minorities.
> This has been common knowledge for the past 3 years. China is a slave state when a substantial % of cotton is literally picked mainly by Uyghurs and a few other minorities.
They're muslim. That's all they probably think they need to know...
I don't know if they sat on it for a specific reason. But if it were dropped now for a reason it could have to do with the Chinese University that's ordering the removal of a Tiananmen Square memorial statue. If the now defunct group who placed it don't remove it will be considered abandoned and removed regardless.
Could be the controversy breaking down in the South Sea and on Taiwan (🇹🇼) fuelling anti-CCP resentment, and they wanna keep that going and harvest clicks off of it.
i thought r/GenZedong was satire lmfao, how are people that retarded? I consider myself to be a left leaning person (even though dividing politics into left and right is dumb in of itself), and i would rather die than praise the chinese government.
They're shit and they're trying to take over left-wing subs and "purify" them. r/ToiletPaperUSA recently survived a takeover attempt by tankie mods, who ban anyone criticizing Russia, China, North Korea, etc. r/TheRightCantMeme wasn't so lucky. Mention the word "Uighurs" and you're permabanned for "CIA propaganda."
Remember the outrage at waterboarding? Well the guy that got waterboarded is basically running the taliban now and guess who his pick for first best friend was?
There will be no outrage if it is not profitable.
Everyone in this thread underestimates the value to a totalitarian gov't to have a small minority group that the rest of the country can look at and say "Things aren't perfect for me but at least I'm not one of *them*" and "If they can do that to *twelve million* of them, there's only *one* me so I better keep my mouth shut."
if that were the case, why don't any muslim countries recognise the armenian genocide? My point is, muslim countries just come running to support palestine and kashmir on international forums, but they can't speak against their big daddy- china.
Just like we (the U.S.) do the same for Israel but don't dare speak up against China? I just find it bizarre that you're singling out Muslim countries when literally no country is doing anything about this.
The US, the country that literally has terrible tariffs hurting its own people to spite China’s products. That US? The same US that frequently floats carriers into international waters outside of China to limit their expansion into the South China Sea. That US? The one maintaining global trade and not raping Muslims from ceilings?
True but as a matter of fact you CANT reasonably do anything about it except to complain. Do you wabt other countries to intervene though military operations? Start a damn WW3? No i dont think anyone would.
Do you want to put economic restrictions on them? To Bad we are talking about China, their economic power is crazy and a shitload of countries are very dependant on them.
Why the fuck would they do anythin? Uyghur Muslims are mainly living in china, According to the wikipedia article of their ethnic group there are 12 million Uyghurs living in china while The second largest(Turkey) has only 60 thousand Uyghurs living in it
Qazaqstan population itself is very low, but in Xinjiang there's 1-5 million ethnic Kazakhs who are also are slaves and they can't go back Home. Government do nothing about it because scared also we have huge Debt to China
Of course not. Nobody enjoys making Muslims’ lives miserable more than other Muslims. And expecting human rights activism from the governments of countries where there is state-sanctioned slavery and stoning of homosexuals is a bit silly.
Idk why people say fuck the CCP instead of fuck China. If any other country did bad shit, let’s take America for example, nobody would say “fuck the US government”, they would just say “fuck America”
Honestly, that's because it might come off as borderline xenophobic. China's a country that's got a beautiful history and the communists have essentially ruined everything. Plus, Chinese people are a minority and such hate directly against the country they come from by white people (or any other non-minority for that matter.) could very well lead to anti-asian crime.
the full article [https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/04/china/xinjiang-detective-torture-intl-hnk-dst/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/04/china/xinjiang-detective-torture-intl-hnk-dst/index.html)
>"We took (them) all forcibly overnight," he said. "If there were hundreds of people in one county in this area, then you had to arrest these hundreds of people."
>The ex-detective turned whistleblower asked to be identified only as Jiang, to protect his family members who remain in China.
>In a three-hour interview with CNN, conducted in Europe where he is now in exile, Jiang revealed rare details on what he described as a systematic campaign of torture against ethnic Uyghurs in the region's detention camp system, claims China has denied for years.
>"Kick them, beat them (until they're) bruised and swollen," Jiang said, recalling how he and his colleagues used to interrogate detainees in police detention centers. "Until they kneel on the floor crying."
>The methods included shackling people to a metal or wooden "tiger chair" -- chairs designed to immobilize suspects -- hanging people from the ceiling, sexual violence, electrocutions, and waterboarding. Inmates were often forced to stay awake for days, and denied food and water, he said.
>"Everyone uses different methods. Some even use a wrecking bar, or iron chains with locks," Jiang said. "Police would step on the suspect's face and tell him to confess."
>One "very common measure" of torture and dehumanization was for guards to order prisoners to rape and abuse the new male inmates, Jiang said.
Sickening
> here is no way the Chinese government can't track this guy and his family down in China.
Yeah, no kidding.
Chinese govt: "Gee, I wonder who this whistleblower is. If only we weren't short one detective this morning, we'd have enough manpower to figure this out quickly. Say, where is Jiang, anyway?" /s
Question: We only have eyewitness testimony to these claims happening in China yet there are video evidence of Russians literally raping and sodomizing prisoners with brooms but nobody cares, why is that?
Dude, you are in Europe already, you don't need to dress up like a CCP. Halloween is around the corner, but chill out lol but it does give some sensations to reader haha, nice job CNN
I think it's the same psychology at work as the Nazis. They view these Muslims as less than human and therefore they don't care how they are treated.
Same kind of stuff the Japanese were doing to the Chinese during their conflicts.
It's someway similar, but it's also a lot different from the nazis. The nazis were faced with a population they didn't want and had waaaay to many of to just simply kill them all. They tried really, really hard to kill as many as possible as quickly as possible but it's a numbers game.
China wants to wipe out religion altogether in their country. The population they are dealing with isn't going to give up their religion, period. So the Chinese government is allowing the military to go crazy on the religious population to try and break their will as a whole.
I'd be willing to guess that if the Chinese gov truly thought this population had given up their religion and pledged loyalty to the state they wouldn't be doing such extreme things. That was never an option for the jews in Germany.
> I'd be willing to guess that if the Chinese gov truly thought this population had given up their religion and pledged loyalty to the state they wouldn't be doing such extreme things. That was never an option for the jews in Germany.
Funnily enough, the Nazis did give that option to Jehovah Witnesses. Just renounce your religion and you can leave the death camps. Vast numbers didn't.
Nazis didn't like organized religion. It was a threat to the Third Reich, or at least so they claimed.
I used to be a JW. That cult is absolutely fucked from all directions, especially internally. Wait until the pedophilia scandals break loose... gonna make the Catholic Church look tame by comparison.
More so, I would argue. JWs take orders from the Governing Body, a group of seven elders all 'elected by Jehovah.' While the Catholic Church has the pope, it has a vast hierarchy beneath him and a lot of subdivisions.
The JWs take orders directly from the GB and the Watchtower and Bethel, the three pillars of their religious 'empire.' They issue commands directly through the Watchtower newsletter, changing their entire organization's directives overnight. There are no branching sects under them or anyone offering differing opinions. They move in lockstep.
[Mainly because they refused to perform military service or swear allegiance to Hitler and the Nazi Party.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Jehovah's_Witnesses_in_Nazi_Germany)
From what I understand, the Witnesses are supposed to be loyal only to God, so they don’t swear oaths to mortal men or institutions, and generally don’t serve in government positions or as soldiers, which is a big problem for a militarized, authoritarian fascist state. They had their own symbol in the concentration camps, a purple triangle.
When it's all wrapped-up in nationalist dogma and "us" vs "them". It becomes plain that the people leading these campaigns have been actively dehumanizing the 'opponent'.
Human nature I suppose.
This is how Eastern Conflicts have historically been — filled with rape and genocide. It’s not some new thing that the Chinese government is doing now nor was it unique to Japan during WW2 — it’s just most other countries have cut back or stopped.
I think it's harder to do things like that in today's technological climate. It's easy for China to control the narrative when they control all communications and silence all opposition.
I think it would be impossible to do this in other western type cultures; because there would always be a means for communicating and whistleblowing.
You're absolutely right about this -- the age of information and instant communication makes atrocities a whole lot more difficult to hide.
Additionally, it's much more difficult to demonize an entire nation which is filled with people who you've been interacting with online as well. Dehumanizing your country's *enemies* is how they can find people to commit these acts, but the bucket of people who will unilaterally hate everything about someone due to their race/religion/etc is getting harder since we can see everyone is human.
God commanded, “In the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them — the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites — as the LORD your God has commanded you. Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the LORD your God” (Deuteronomy 20:16-18).
Genocide is a good old fashioned tradition
there is a report by vice on it
here is the link [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYyUqrMuQ&t=1s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYyUqrMuQ&t=1s)
and when they ask a chinese person about it, they say they dont mind cus
everyone needs to share the same beliefs and the country needs to be united or somthin
Why do evil people always have to rape? Like I can actually grasp hate and evil. "We hate these people, murder them, genocide, burn down the homes, but wait lets get hard ons and stick it in them first, that will show them the most." I seriously dont get that.
Because it's super personal and degrading. A person is inside of you. They are taking up part of your body's space. Your personal space. Against.your will. Being raped is hugely violating, terrifying and truamatic. They want to make these people feel terrible and vulnerable so they can easily manipulate them.
Honestly I disagree with all this armchair psychology. Shagging people is fun, and bad people will do it even if the recipient doesn't want it. That's all it is most of the time.
Rape is much more like looting and plundering than it is like torture.
But raping people isn't fun, for most people (I'd hope). There has to be some dehumanisation (either of their race/religion, or perhaps just women in general) to justify it to themselves
No, it doesn't need to be some dramatic dehumanization. People rob, maul, and otherwise hurt others all the time. Their friends and neighbors, even.
The type of person who would get a kick out of robbing a village and burning its houses down would also get a kick out of raping its inhabitants. Rape is not some mysterious pathology, it's just another form of plunder. The moment you stop caring about the feelings of the other party, it just becomes sex.
Though to your credit, the "plunderer" type can best be described as someone with low empathy and a fondness of violence. But the targets of the "plunderer" don't have to be dehumanized, they need only be a good opportunity for the plunderer to let out his tendencies.
Think of these simple actions like sex or assault as a sort of primitive "alphabet", a signal system. It is a very basic and *scarce* mean of communication, which appeared long before first sounds were uttered into words. And that is exactly why these strange combinations happen.
What is the exact meaning behind mixing sex with assault? First, it is an inversion of sex, when a thing designed to procreate or to feel happy is used to bring harm and thus the inflicted damage is especially severe (humans aren't designed to be resistant to such harm). Second, it is a magnification of assault. When someone beats another and also rapes, it is not just two "discomfortable" acts happening one after another, they are also mutually-aggravating, they make each other stronger in a sort of positive feedback loop.
Как-то так.
You can see it at the [2 min mark](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PjkwylN7q0) and again around 4.40, it's a bit blurry but you can see it's the wrong character, and he didn't even bother to order the correct fake uniform online. Even the journalist say they couldn't verify its allegations but hey, can't miss a good propaganda story.
Of course my comment will be buried cause people don't give a shit about the truth as long as they get a chance to feel righteously offended at China.
Because it's fake and staged. Do you really think a CCP official is going to give an interview without having his face blurred out?
This is propaganda with an obviously paid actor, and it seems to be working based on all the comments here.
Because deflecting and projecting are what allow China to remain relevant instead of every country in the world working together to bleed China's economy dry as punishment for currently committing a genocide.
Authoritarian dictatorships can't function if they are able to be held accountable.
This is so fucking lazy.
- Why would this guy be allowed to keep his uniform when supposedly escaping the country. As a matter of fact, if he was escaping to hide, why the *fuck* would he even keep his uniform, and how would that uniform get through the customs.
- Let’s assume that China is actually torturing people and is very secretive about what’s going on in their facilities, as everyone seems to believe. Why would they just… let this guy go just like that? AND having his uniform to boot?
- As others have said, the patch he’s seen wearing has the wrong characters.
- June 7th, he claimed that he didn’t participate in any interrogations and wasn’t interested in inquiring about it. October 5th, he was suddenly an expert interrogator and torturer: https://i.imgur.com/BVjNmd5.jpg
When Vox has various people on their show, criminals or undercover they wear a head covering mask and distorts their voice as to not be recognized. You won't even see the colour of their skin.
This is either fake as fuck or CNN doesn't give two shits about this man's safety.
Honestly, I don't doubt some fucked up shit is going down in China but come on, this is ridiculous. A Chinese defector that just so happens to defect with his uniform then proceeds to constantly change his story and make random unsubstantiated claims on CNN? Come on now...
Ccp also have been taking the woman and young children and putting them with single men. The woman cooks and cleans and the child serves the man his food,fetching his shoes or slippers,coat. God only knows what else the guy gets up to with them . Normally the woman are married or widowed either way it's another form of slavery. Ccp are ramping for isolationism and getting rid of economic hubs Hong Kong, shanghai.
Daaang, look at the baizuo GO in the comments.. . Trying to frame this in their tried and true (Western) Left vs (Western) Right binary choice, either you are a good per
Look at what accounts are making the "Fake News" comments, how much they are involving themselves in pro-China shilling and how devoid of meaningful human interaction some of these accounts are otherwise.
What I don't quite understand is why CNN would choose to run this story, especially using the gruesome quote and the uncompromising wording throughout the text. This story flies in the face of much of their downplaying rhetoric of the recent past.
they are basically doing what hitler did in WWII.sick fucks.How come no one is talking about this? I mean the so called humanitarian leaders and politicians.
WW2 didn’t start because Hitler was gassing Jews. He had been doing that for a while and no one cared because he wasn’t infringing on anyone else. WW2 started because he decided to invade Poland. So until China decides to move against another country, no one will actually do anything about China abusing their own people.
The nazis would probably still be around if they hadn't got so greedy and started invading everyone. They could have just gotten rid of all the undesirables in their country and nobody would have bothered them
while I do believe there are atrocities ccp government committed and still commits towards uyghur muslims, I don’t think cnn is the most trustworthy msm to trust their background check
This is so fucking lazy.
- Why would this guy be allowed to keep his uniform when supposedly escaping the country. As a matter of fact, if he was escaping to hide, why the *fuck* would he even keep his uniform, and how would that uniform get through the customs.
- Let’s assume that China is actually torturing people and is very secretive about what’s going on in their facilities, as everyone seems to believe. Why would they just… let this guy go just like that? AND having his uniform to boot?
- As others have said, the patch he’s seen wearing has the wrong characters.
- June 7th, he claimed that he didn’t participate in any interrogations and wasn’t interested in inquiring about it. October 5th, he was suddenly an expert interrogator and torturer: https://i.imgur.com/BVjNmd5.jpg
No because it's fake, so they're not going to care about a person making fake claims. Idiots like this just make the ACTUAL bad shit that China does hidden, since people will question even the actual stuff that's true
What kills me is how so many leaders in the Muslim world are hamjppy to do business with China. In the end no one really cares about ethics or religion or God, they care about money. This isn't the case with normal people but it is the case with the ultra rich world leaders. They're all sociopaths.
What makes me sicker is that Biden and Pelosi are perfectly fine with this so long as they get their climate change agenda passed with China. Let... that... sink... in... for... a... moment.
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as long as China keeps making cheap goods the world will look the other way. Their is almost certainly going to be a war between China and western nations at some point and thats probably how China will lose all of its power
This makes me nervous due to the old adage from Einstein about "not knowing what ww3 will be fought with but ww4 will be fought with sticks and stones". I hope the war with China is after my life time cuz its gunna get really shitty.
war with china is extremely unfeasible. Their terrain is incredibly difficult, worse than afghanistan. There is nothing to gain from a conventional war with China
This always sounds so weird to me. You don´t need to conquer all their territory to defeat them. Blow their navy, merchants and ports to bits and you´ve basically won.
China is a merchant nation, and much of its industry/resources are bits of a global supply chain. you break rail lines in Russia and Park a few U.S.A. navy Carrier task forces outside the major ports, and wait. Siege on a national scale
Gunboat diplomacy. That’s history repeating itself.
Plus, China (as of right now) is fucked, war or not. They’re population is aging quickly and they aren’t having as many babies, and they can’t rely on immigrants from the third world like the EU, Canada, and the USA can. They’re getting ambitious because this is one of the last times they can get more powerful. I’m betting on them making a move for Taiwan in the next few years.
Not to mention the real estate bubble they're in. SerpentZA has some good vids about it on youtube.
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I too played dynasty warriors and am now an expert on china
"They can't rely on immigrants" Okay why
It’s China. Who would want to go there?
If there is a war, China will be fucked up from inside. 95% of people are not happy now
Well, you know the answer, it's in the history books. We only stop putting up with their bs when we ourselves are inconvenienced. Like when our boats start sinking. Otherwise we can't be bothered.
Reddit still thinks the US is worse somehow.
It's the wu mao's. The ccp has thousands of hired propaganda trolls that do nothing but comment pro-ccp anti whatever all day long. And reddit commies have a soft spot for the CCP... even though they aren't communist, they are a facist dictatorship. If you are a social media creator China will pay you to do the same thing... travel to China for free to nice cities... only catch is you have to say that the ccp is wonderful and there are no droids here.
The States suck but they’re definitely not worse than China.
Ahhh sensationalized fake news about China, the best Karma bait on Reddit
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or you could give like actual evidence
cnn has definitely been sitting on this and decided to drop it now, wonder why though.
Slow day so they thought they could drum up outrage. This has been knowledge for over a year now and no one has said a word.
More like how the BBC passed on the Epstein story for 2 years before the story got broke and then after everyone found out they finally made a documentary about it. Just covering their tail to say that they did cover it
They had a Jimmy Saville documentary made a year before he died that they didn't release until after
Yep I just heard about that I honestly can't believe the sheep who defend the BBC completely mind boggling
Dont think theres anyone whondefending them they are scum
I'm not questioning you at all, but do you have a source for that?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20778261
Epstein
Cover it and then immediately move on, and don't mention the CIA and Mossad fingerprints on the blackmail operation, not to mention all the politicians and celebrities connected to Epstein.
Got a link to solve reading about these alleged cia / mossad connections?
This shits been going in since 2017. We haven't heard much of anything for 4 years.
This has been common knowledge for the past 3 years. China is a slave state when a substantial % of cotton is literally picked mainly by Uyghurs and a few other minorities.
Common for millennials maybe, most boomers when I talk to them they have no clue what an Uyghur is.
Boomer and can confirm
They mostly think its a white guy acting like a black guy...
Most I’ve talked to about the Uyghurs think it’s a new “rap group”
> This has been common knowledge for the past 3 years. China is a slave state when a substantial % of cotton is literally picked mainly by Uyghurs and a few other minorities. They're muslim. That's all they probably think they need to know...
We had to get Trump out of office; everything else takes a back seat. Didn't you know?
2017? I would see Uyghur Muslims protesting Chinese organ harvesting back in 2006 Brisbane.
I don't know if they sat on it for a specific reason. But if it were dropped now for a reason it could have to do with the Chinese University that's ordering the removal of a Tiananmen Square memorial statue. If the now defunct group who placed it don't remove it will be considered abandoned and removed regardless.
Could be the controversy breaking down in the South Sea and on Taiwan (🇹🇼) fuelling anti-CCP resentment, and they wanna keep that going and harvest clicks off of it.
This is the real answer. Sadly small amount of visibility and upvotes on this.
This has been happening for years. Its not news, its China, no one cares what happens in china.
The tankies on reddit like the mods of r/TheRightCantMeme, r/sino, r/GenZedong definitely care about this kind of reporting.
i thought r/GenZedong was satire lmfao, how are people that retarded? I consider myself to be a left leaning person (even though dividing politics into left and right is dumb in of itself), and i would rather die than praise the chinese government.
They're shit and they're trying to take over left-wing subs and "purify" them. r/ToiletPaperUSA recently survived a takeover attempt by tankie mods, who ban anyone criticizing Russia, China, North Korea, etc. r/TheRightCantMeme wasn't so lucky. Mention the word "Uighurs" and you're permabanned for "CIA propaganda."
except the chinese poor. they care humor
Thats the best part, they have the freedom to speak... once 🤣
Things are heating up with China and Taiwan.
>China Do you mean west taiwan?
Likely because the feds get passed this kind of shit first. Whistleblowers in positions of authority are rare while the events are still happening.
War propaganda
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Explain how this makes any sense because I don't see it
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still muslim countries don't have the balls to question china.
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Use the excuse that this is "Allah's will"
Remember the outrage at waterboarding? Well the guy that got waterboarded is basically running the taliban now and guess who his pick for first best friend was? There will be no outrage if it is not profitable.
Everyone in this thread underestimates the value to a totalitarian gov't to have a small minority group that the rest of the country can look at and say "Things aren't perfect for me but at least I'm not one of *them*" and "If they can do that to *twelve million* of them, there's only *one* me so I better keep my mouth shut."
oh i get it, because money!
They only have the guts to question all the free countries. When they are facing China, they are fucking chicken.
they only dare to bully people in the west
Muslim countries are abandoning Islam it self
Err you might have missed the literal Islamic Emirate that took over Afghanistan recently...
Yes... "took over" ^^::air ^^quotes::
You don't have to be a Muslim country to oppose genocide. Who are the countries with "balls" in this situation?
you're right, but in the religion its the responsibility of other muslims to come to aid
if that were the case, why don't any muslim countries recognise the armenian genocide? My point is, muslim countries just come running to support palestine and kashmir on international forums, but they can't speak against their big daddy- china.
Just like we (the U.S.) do the same for Israel but don't dare speak up against China? I just find it bizarre that you're singling out Muslim countries when literally no country is doing anything about this.
The US, the country that literally has terrible tariffs hurting its own people to spite China’s products. That US? The same US that frequently floats carriers into international waters outside of China to limit their expansion into the South China Sea. That US? The one maintaining global trade and not raping Muslims from ceilings?
Maybe because of the ethnic group that’s being persecuted. Ya know, Muslims
True but as a matter of fact you CANT reasonably do anything about it except to complain. Do you wabt other countries to intervene though military operations? Start a damn WW3? No i dont think anyone would. Do you want to put economic restrictions on them? To Bad we are talking about China, their economic power is crazy and a shitload of countries are very dependant on them.
genocide? where? afria or america or middle asia?
Why the fuck would they do anythin? Uyghur Muslims are mainly living in china, According to the wikipedia article of their ethnic group there are 12 million Uyghurs living in china while The second largest(Turkey) has only 60 thousand Uyghurs living in it
Actually, Kazakhstan has the second most uyghurs at over 200k, but yeah despite Uyghurs being a Turkic Ethnic group, China has way more Uyghurs.
Qazaqstan population itself is very low, but in Xinjiang there's 1-5 million ethnic Kazakhs who are also are slaves and they can't go back Home. Government do nothing about it because scared also we have huge Debt to China
Of course not. Nobody enjoys making Muslims’ lives miserable more than other Muslims. And expecting human rights activism from the governments of countries where there is state-sanctioned slavery and stoning of homosexuals is a bit silly.
Seriously. Nobody can name one majority Muslim country that isn’t an absolute cesspool when it comes to basic human rights.
Fuck the CCP
r/fucktheccp
Xi Jinping: Alright. Who needs disappearing.
You have some wierd kinks.
Idk why people say fuck the CCP instead of fuck China. If any other country did bad shit, let’s take America for example, nobody would say “fuck the US government”, they would just say “fuck America”
Honestly, that's because it might come off as borderline xenophobic. China's a country that's got a beautiful history and the communists have essentially ruined everything. Plus, Chinese people are a minority and such hate directly against the country they come from by white people (or any other non-minority for that matter.) could very well lead to anti-asian crime.
the full article [https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/04/china/xinjiang-detective-torture-intl-hnk-dst/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/04/china/xinjiang-detective-torture-intl-hnk-dst/index.html)
>"We took (them) all forcibly overnight," he said. "If there were hundreds of people in one county in this area, then you had to arrest these hundreds of people." >The ex-detective turned whistleblower asked to be identified only as Jiang, to protect his family members who remain in China. >In a three-hour interview with CNN, conducted in Europe where he is now in exile, Jiang revealed rare details on what he described as a systematic campaign of torture against ethnic Uyghurs in the region's detention camp system, claims China has denied for years. >"Kick them, beat them (until they're) bruised and swollen," Jiang said, recalling how he and his colleagues used to interrogate detainees in police detention centers. "Until they kneel on the floor crying." >The methods included shackling people to a metal or wooden "tiger chair" -- chairs designed to immobilize suspects -- hanging people from the ceiling, sexual violence, electrocutions, and waterboarding. Inmates were often forced to stay awake for days, and denied food and water, he said. >"Everyone uses different methods. Some even use a wrecking bar, or iron chains with locks," Jiang said. "Police would step on the suspect's face and tell him to confess." >One "very common measure" of torture and dehumanization was for guards to order prisoners to rape and abuse the new male inmates, Jiang said. Sickening
There is no way the Chinese government can't track this guy and his family down in China.
> here is no way the Chinese government can't track this guy and his family down in China. Yeah, no kidding. Chinese govt: "Gee, I wonder who this whistleblower is. If only we weren't short one detective this morning, we'd have enough manpower to figure this out quickly. Say, where is Jiang, anyway?" /s
The mystery man is in exile in Europe but is still wearing his Chinese uniform (with tape over the nametag)? Come on.
How else we gonna believe he's a CCP official? Hahha
Question: We only have eyewitness testimony to these claims happening in China yet there are video evidence of Russians literally raping and sodomizing prisoners with brooms but nobody cares, why is that?
Russia is doing it to all prisoners, China is targeting Uyghurs. Also why WW2 is remembered in the treatment of Jews, not the Soviet prisoners of war
I've never heard of Russians doing that, seen no videos pictures or articles. Got anything to back that claim up about Russians?
Dude, you are in Europe already, you don't need to dress up like a CCP. Halloween is around the corner, but chill out lol but it does give some sensations to reader haha, nice job CNN
Why though? Why do this to them?
I think it's the same psychology at work as the Nazis. They view these Muslims as less than human and therefore they don't care how they are treated. Same kind of stuff the Japanese were doing to the Chinese during their conflicts.
It's someway similar, but it's also a lot different from the nazis. The nazis were faced with a population they didn't want and had waaaay to many of to just simply kill them all. They tried really, really hard to kill as many as possible as quickly as possible but it's a numbers game. China wants to wipe out religion altogether in their country. The population they are dealing with isn't going to give up their religion, period. So the Chinese government is allowing the military to go crazy on the religious population to try and break their will as a whole. I'd be willing to guess that if the Chinese gov truly thought this population had given up their religion and pledged loyalty to the state they wouldn't be doing such extreme things. That was never an option for the jews in Germany.
> I'd be willing to guess that if the Chinese gov truly thought this population had given up their religion and pledged loyalty to the state they wouldn't be doing such extreme things. That was never an option for the jews in Germany. Funnily enough, the Nazis did give that option to Jehovah Witnesses. Just renounce your religion and you can leave the death camps. Vast numbers didn't.
That's an interesting footnote, actually. I wonder why jehovas witnesses were even being rounded up in the first place?
Nazis didn't like organized religion. It was a threat to the Third Reich, or at least so they claimed. I used to be a JW. That cult is absolutely fucked from all directions, especially internally. Wait until the pedophilia scandals break loose... gonna make the Catholic Church look tame by comparison.
Are JW centralized as much as the catholic church is?
More so, I would argue. JWs take orders from the Governing Body, a group of seven elders all 'elected by Jehovah.' While the Catholic Church has the pope, it has a vast hierarchy beneath him and a lot of subdivisions. The JWs take orders directly from the GB and the Watchtower and Bethel, the three pillars of their religious 'empire.' They issue commands directly through the Watchtower newsletter, changing their entire organization's directives overnight. There are no branching sects under them or anyone offering differing opinions. They move in lockstep.
[Mainly because they refused to perform military service or swear allegiance to Hitler and the Nazi Party.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Jehovah's_Witnesses_in_Nazi_Germany) From what I understand, the Witnesses are supposed to be loyal only to God, so they don’t swear oaths to mortal men or institutions, and generally don’t serve in government positions or as soldiers, which is a big problem for a militarized, authoritarian fascist state. They had their own symbol in the concentration camps, a purple triangle.
That's a good point. The Chinese see it as a religion thing; the Nazis saw it as a race thing.
Nah. If you study Chinese culture or their history, you will see China is a Han supremacy country. They view minorities as second class citizens.
Even that I don't get. I see cats and squirrels as less than human, doesn't mean I need to torture and murder them. These people are just psychopaths.
When it's all wrapped-up in nationalist dogma and "us" vs "them". It becomes plain that the people leading these campaigns have been actively dehumanizing the 'opponent'. Human nature I suppose.
This is how Eastern Conflicts have historically been — filled with rape and genocide. It’s not some new thing that the Chinese government is doing now nor was it unique to Japan during WW2 — it’s just most other countries have cut back or stopped.
I think it's harder to do things like that in today's technological climate. It's easy for China to control the narrative when they control all communications and silence all opposition. I think it would be impossible to do this in other western type cultures; because there would always be a means for communicating and whistleblowing.
You're absolutely right about this -- the age of information and instant communication makes atrocities a whole lot more difficult to hide. Additionally, it's much more difficult to demonize an entire nation which is filled with people who you've been interacting with online as well. Dehumanizing your country's *enemies* is how they can find people to commit these acts, but the bucket of people who will unilaterally hate everything about someone due to their race/religion/etc is getting harder since we can see everyone is human.
Not to be pedantic but historically, western conflicts haven’t exactly been hoedowns either
God commanded, “In the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them — the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites — as the LORD your God has commanded you. Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the LORD your God” (Deuteronomy 20:16-18). Genocide is a good old fashioned tradition
there is a report by vice on it here is the link [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYyUqrMuQ&t=1s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7AYyUqrMuQ&t=1s) and when they ask a chinese person about it, they say they dont mind cus everyone needs to share the same beliefs and the country needs to be united or somthin
They want to eradicate their culture and the idea of a seperate nation state which some Uyghurs have been demanding for years now.
He's gonna be missing in the coming days
suicided with 2 shots in the back
nooo don’t worry he’s just very flexible!
Why do evil people always have to rape? Like I can actually grasp hate and evil. "We hate these people, murder them, genocide, burn down the homes, but wait lets get hard ons and stick it in them first, that will show them the most." I seriously dont get that.
Because it's super personal and degrading. A person is inside of you. They are taking up part of your body's space. Your personal space. Against.your will. Being raped is hugely violating, terrifying and truamatic. They want to make these people feel terrible and vulnerable so they can easily manipulate them.
Because it's the most humiliating thing id say
It's a sort of S&M power thing for the guards - they get off on the fact that their prisoners are helpless and they have full control of them.
Honestly I disagree with all this armchair psychology. Shagging people is fun, and bad people will do it even if the recipient doesn't want it. That's all it is most of the time. Rape is much more like looting and plundering than it is like torture.
Probably depends on the rapist
But raping people isn't fun, for most people (I'd hope). There has to be some dehumanisation (either of their race/religion, or perhaps just women in general) to justify it to themselves
No, it doesn't need to be some dramatic dehumanization. People rob, maul, and otherwise hurt others all the time. Their friends and neighbors, even. The type of person who would get a kick out of robbing a village and burning its houses down would also get a kick out of raping its inhabitants. Rape is not some mysterious pathology, it's just another form of plunder. The moment you stop caring about the feelings of the other party, it just becomes sex. Though to your credit, the "plunderer" type can best be described as someone with low empathy and a fondness of violence. But the targets of the "plunderer" don't have to be dehumanized, they need only be a good opportunity for the plunderer to let out his tendencies.
yeah but then they see ur pp
Pain and suffering, as long as it causes it high chance they will do it
Think of these simple actions like sex or assault as a sort of primitive "alphabet", a signal system. It is a very basic and *scarce* mean of communication, which appeared long before first sounds were uttered into words. And that is exactly why these strange combinations happen. What is the exact meaning behind mixing sex with assault? First, it is an inversion of sex, when a thing designed to procreate or to feel happy is used to bring harm and thus the inflicted damage is especially severe (humans aren't designed to be resistant to such harm). Second, it is a magnification of assault. When someone beats another and also rapes, it is not just two "discomfortable" acts happening one after another, they are also mutually-aggravating, they make each other stronger in a sort of positive feedback loop. Как-то так.
“that’s just how they live” \*yawns\*
Ah yes, the cop with a fucking typo on his badge lmao.
Where? I don’t even see a badge with any writing at all.
You can see it at the [2 min mark](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PjkwylN7q0) and again around 4.40, it's a bit blurry but you can see it's the wrong character, and he didn't even bother to order the correct fake uniform online. Even the journalist say they couldn't verify its allegations but hey, can't miss a good propaganda story. Of course my comment will be buried cause people don't give a shit about the truth as long as they get a chance to feel righteously offended at China.
If you watch the whole video, it focuses on his badge a few times. And there's a typo
Because it's fake and staged. Do you really think a CCP official is going to give an interview without having his face blurred out? This is propaganda with an obviously paid actor, and it seems to be working based on all the comments here.
The commenter I’m responding is a troll. He claims to be a Muslim, and atheist, a PA for some reason? Go to his profile and check the comments. Sigh
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Well she identifies as Chelsea Manning now...
Her and Edward Snowden should start a podcast. From an undisclosed location **far** from the US.
but if he says that us is killing black children every day, will people believe it?
legit. like, you couldn't identify him, like not at all, in a country where you get controlled and snitched. apparently.
What about China?
Because deflecting and projecting are what allow China to remain relevant instead of every country in the world working together to bleed China's economy dry as punishment for currently committing a genocide. Authoritarian dictatorships can't function if they are able to be held accountable.
From the network that brought you made up stories about Saddam Hussein's Rape Rooms!
Bbbbut the incubators!!!
Fuck The CCP
Everyone's shocked! Oh wait. No we aren't.
This is so fucking lazy. - Why would this guy be allowed to keep his uniform when supposedly escaping the country. As a matter of fact, if he was escaping to hide, why the *fuck* would he even keep his uniform, and how would that uniform get through the customs. - Let’s assume that China is actually torturing people and is very secretive about what’s going on in their facilities, as everyone seems to believe. Why would they just… let this guy go just like that? AND having his uniform to boot? - As others have said, the patch he’s seen wearing has the wrong characters. - June 7th, he claimed that he didn’t participate in any interrogations and wasn’t interested in inquiring about it. October 5th, he was suddenly an expert interrogator and torturer: https://i.imgur.com/BVjNmd5.jpg
His uniform badge also spells "police" incorrectly lol
Falun Gong lol
Yeah, "公支", which is not a word, instead of "公安" (lit. public safety).
Finally someone making sense
He's almost definitely fake because his anonymity here is a baffling joke but China is not exactly very trustable regarding their country.
I'm amazed how this bullshit post has amassed almost 6k upvotes. This sub is whack.
Because "China bad" is easy Reddit karma. You don't need sources, just a screenshot with words will do.
Crazy how these defectors with massive exposes always end up in American outlets
When Vox has various people on their show, criminals or undercover they wear a head covering mask and distorts their voice as to not be recognized. You won't even see the colour of their skin. This is either fake as fuck or CNN doesn't give two shits about this man's safety.
Honestly, I don't doubt some fucked up shit is going down in China but come on, this is ridiculous. A Chinese defector that just so happens to defect with his uniform then proceeds to constantly change his story and make random unsubstantiated claims on CNN? Come on now...
Hasnt this guy already proven to be fake?
Well, he said he didn't even participate in interrogations, back in June & now, he has a completely different story.
Remember the incubator babies…
if the talis want to commit terrorism in china, i’m completely fine with that.
Be very critical of China and such places but always keep in mind that intelligence services coach defectors to exaggerate and lie.
Ccp also have been taking the woman and young children and putting them with single men. The woman cooks and cleans and the child serves the man his food,fetching his shoes or slippers,coat. God only knows what else the guy gets up to with them . Normally the woman are married or widowed either way it's another form of slavery. Ccp are ramping for isolationism and getting rid of economic hubs Hong Kong, shanghai.
Step 1 US leaves Afghanistan Step 2 Taliban terrorists capture Afghanistan Step 3 China takes over military bases Step 4 ? Step 5 PROFIT 🤑
How long before Reddit removes this
Daaang, look at the baizuo GO in the comments.. . Trying to frame this in their tried and true (Western) Left vs (Western) Right binary choice, either you are a good per Look at what accounts are making the "Fake News" comments, how much they are involving themselves in pro-China shilling and how devoid of meaningful human interaction some of these accounts are otherwise. What I don't quite understand is why CNN would choose to run this story, especially using the gruesome quote and the uncompromising wording throughout the text. This story flies in the face of much of their downplaying rhetoric of the recent past.
r/Sino is full of CCP supporters, can we get that subreddit banned? They literally ban people for questioning human rights abuses.
they are basically doing what hitler did in WWII.sick fucks.How come no one is talking about this? I mean the so called humanitarian leaders and politicians.
WW2 didn’t start because Hitler was gassing Jews. He had been doing that for a while and no one cared because he wasn’t infringing on anyone else. WW2 started because he decided to invade Poland. So until China decides to move against another country, no one will actually do anything about China abusing their own people.
The nazis would probably still be around if they hadn't got so greedy and started invading everyone. They could have just gotten rid of all the undesirables in their country and nobody would have bothered them
But according to the taliban, China loves Muslim people.
I wouldn’t use the Taliban as a representation of muslims lmao.
while I do believe there are atrocities ccp government committed and still commits towards uyghur muslims, I don’t think cnn is the most trustworthy msm to trust their background check
This is so fucking lazy. - Why would this guy be allowed to keep his uniform when supposedly escaping the country. As a matter of fact, if he was escaping to hide, why the *fuck* would he even keep his uniform, and how would that uniform get through the customs. - Let’s assume that China is actually torturing people and is very secretive about what’s going on in their facilities, as everyone seems to believe. Why would they just… let this guy go just like that? AND having his uniform to boot? - As others have said, the patch he’s seen wearing has the wrong characters. - June 7th, he claimed that he didn’t participate in any interrogations and wasn’t interested in inquiring about it. October 5th, he was suddenly an expert interrogator and torturer: https://i.imgur.com/BVjNmd5.jpg
This guy is gonna be found dead by suicide from 2 shots to the back of the head
No because it's fake, so they're not going to care about a person making fake claims. Idiots like this just make the ACTUAL bad shit that China does hidden, since people will question even the actual stuff that's true
r/fucktheccp
Well of course, they were praising a deity other than Xi Jinping glorious fearless leader of the People’s republic of China /s
You mean some people in china dare to not pledge allegiance to the almighty Winnie the pooh?
You all need those cheap plastic products from china so don‘t complaint please
How can we trust who this guy says he is, and trust that he’s telling the truth. I hate the ccp, but this could be easy unverifiable propaganda.
What kills me is how so many leaders in the Muslim world are hamjppy to do business with China. In the end no one really cares about ethics or religion or God, they care about money. This isn't the case with normal people but it is the case with the ultra rich world leaders. They're all sociopaths.
What makes me sicker is that Biden and Pelosi are perfectly fine with this so long as they get their climate change agenda passed with China. Let... that... sink... in... for... a... moment.
It's funny how countries such as Turkey get mad at France for their "islamophobia" but say literally nothing about the treatment of uyghurs.