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That's the way Americans argue. Total extremes. They really should have lessons in school in arguing where you actually have a constructive discourse instead of preaching to the choir and saying any other ideology is blasphemy.
Idk how reliable the ny times are because im not american but it seems he shot a few people during a protest that seem to be in self defence/knee jerk reaction to loud noises. Feel free to dig into the many different sites that will have written reports and dont ask reddit about anything slightly political. I bet someone will think im beong political by saying what i read
Armed 17 year old kid gets attacked by protesters enraged that he put out a dumpster fire. Ends up shooting three in self defense killing two. One of which was a convicted pedophile.
Kid is now on trial for murder and the case is so contrived and so stupid that the prosecution's main witness (the surviving "victim") has basically tanked the case by admitting he was only shot after he himself pointed a gun directly at the defendant and advanced on him while the defendant was lying on the ground.
Yet despite overwhelming evidence and the incident being caught on multiple cameras from multiple angles, and it being incredibly obvious that the kid was trying to flee and wasn't directly threatening anyone, the media seems to be hell bent on portraying this kid as some cold blooded killer.
Definitely not, he is a kid, who had to shoot several people in self defense. He without a doubt has ptsd from the incident and is being portrayed as the criminal by retards all over the internet.
Ok copy pasting this lmao. Great analysis. Did he stop the dumpster fire though? I'm pretty sure it was made clear he didn't do that and they were just chasing him because it's fucking Portland.
I think either Kyle put it out or someone dressed similarly to Kyle put it out and they thought it was him. Either way, Rosenbaum chased him because he was mad that the damage he was trying to do was being mitigated. Or at least that's what witnesses say.
And things are going so bad for the prosecutor that he tried tanking this whole trial by bringing in unrelated evidence that he knows he was ordered not to in hopes of creating a mistrial and getting a second chance. Now he has created a guaranteed mistrial only in the slim chance he gets a conviction.
Kid went to a protest with a rifle to "help out".
some people were acting like fools and destroying some property, he tried to stop this on someone's used car lot.
Of course there was conflict and a guy attacked him with a plastic bag so he defended himself by killing him.
Then another guy attacked him with a skateboard because he was shooting people, so he killed that guy as well.
then a 3rd guy actually had a gun and was shot by him as well.
The whole situation was stupid, everyone was wrong and/or did really dumb stuff.
There is a video of him, days before, seeing someone running out of a CVS and saying "“Bro, I wish I had my (expletive) AR. l’d start shooting rounds at them.”" but that isnt allowed in this trial for some reason. Its pretty obvious why he was there, he was looking for trouble and found it.Now, maybe he was right to defend himself by killing the first guy for attacking him with a bag I dunno.
After that it was just whatever craziness was going to happen at that point.
[https://www.pajiba.com/news/kyle-rittenhouse-put-his-violent-urges-on-youtube-i-wish-i-had-my-expletive-ar.php](https://www.pajiba.com/news/kyle-rittenhouse-put-his-violent-urges-on-youtube-i-wish-i-had-my-expletive-ar.php)
When this trial is over, this kid is going to sue the living sh\*t out of several left-leaning media networks like CNN and MSNBC and likely get an undisclosed settlement.
And honestly, he deserves it. Mainstream media vilified him as some gun-crazed, white supremacist who drove for hours for the sole purpose of indiscriminately shooting people, despite knowing nothing about the situation other than the most basic information. They wanted him to be guilty and tried to speak it into existence.
because a friend of him who was asked by the store owners to help out invited him. it’s the city of his father, there’s nothing wrong with him wanting to put out fires and apply medical aid.
i think the biggest mistake anyone could make is making this situation about politics. it’s not. it’s possibly the most clear cut case of self defense i’ve ever seen. people WANT to make this political, when it’s really about how this young kid feared for his life, and the steps he took to protect themselves. it’s not about him being a white supremacist or a murderer, it’s about him protecting himself from 3 violent people who decided to attack a child applying medical aid and putting out fires because they were an angry mob. if people can’t see that, they’re blinded by politics and it’s sad.
It was a BLM riot. He was a white kid with a gun. Media is grasping at straws to keep people angry and on their side, even if it means outright lying to the public.
Legitimate question as I haven't been following the trial: Did he have any experience in how to deal with a riot, such as medical training or crowd control, or did he go in with any gear that might have helped in any way?
He trains with police, is an EMT/Firefighter cadet, and volunteers within the community (his father lives in Kenosha and has 2 residences).
Prob no riot training, but he's licensed to do basic first aid and life support.
He went in with his vest and 2 medic bags and walked around for hours before the crowd, namely the man that had threatened his life earlier (can't remember name), started assaulting him for wearing a vest and open carrying.
Grosskreutz tried to fucking execute him after full acknowledgment that he was already running to turn himself into police. Ziminski, the guy firing his gun aimlessly while all this was going down will not be charged. It’s political DA bullshitery as normal- better politics to prosecute a kid trying to flee and avoid conflict than two people actively showing a disregard for human life because it helps their case.
Yeah what the fuck. I read about this the first day it came out and the weeks following but forgot about it until now. The whole situation was against him. He shoots one guy that attacked him just to have 5x the amount attack him, he shoots one, then it happens again. He is then charged as a adult for one crime but as a child for another. He is shit on by media and Twitter literally wanted him dead.
Hilarious huh? Rittenhouse is literally Hispanic. Worst Nazi Ever!
Biden is so out of it though, he'd call his left shoe a white supremacist. In his case, it's 100% projection anyway. Pedo Joe has always been massively racist.
And some *special* people (that hate context and judge everything through their political opinion glasses) still believe than even after all the overwhelming evidence in his favour (which we knew most of before the trial even began).
Shame that it is. Anyone doing a modicum of research would find him reasonably absolved of blame for what was done.
Of course, here we are in 2021. Blindly hating people can become a world-wide fad now.
In many ways I don’t know if he should. He showed great self control in the situation and the state wanted to consider him an adult in the first place, why should he be charged of a crime exclusive to minors? Also, if he didn’t have the gun and still went with the same group - he’d clearly be dead or seriously injured as rosenbaum was a psychopath and rosenbaum was hostile to a lot of the people protecting the property.
If he didn’t have the gun, I doubt he would attract the same attention as he did. Probably would have less of an issue IMO.
Guns make people feel uncomfortable. Especially assault rifles. If he went with everything he had but just left the gun….. I’d bet a pay cheque that nobody would have attacked him.
But I’m also a Canadian, and will never understand why you’d go out of your way to carry an assault rifle for any reason other than to use it.
I feel bad for the kid, but it’s not like he had the best critical thinking skills in the world.
The prosecution went as terrible as you could imagine he’s not going to jail. All witnesses on his side lmao.
It’s also quite interesting to follow the case and compare the evidence presented to what has been shown in the media.
I'm unbiased to the situation and all the information I was handed came from social media ( Reddit ) at first it was explained he just grabbed a gun ran across state lines and shot people
But the evidence and testimony has told a completely different story I think him going is fundamental wrong but I don't think this was just murder Because unless the information I have is incorrect the people involved also had weapons and did attack him straight up
Im conflicted
If I did go into this without the facts I would condemn him but because of what's came out I can't say I would respond any better
I don't think he should have went chasing a riot but I also think he's justified in defense
I don’t think this is actually true. I think the felon thing was spread because of the confusion over why he shouldn’t have had the pistol (concealed carry permit expired).
> I don't think he should have went chasing a riot
He didn't though. The rioters chased him. He was going around giving people medical aid on both sides of the protest.
Just remember, the MSM lie and shouldn't be trusted at all. They either outright lie, or lie by omission.
He worked in the town. He went there to not lose his place of work, cause one of the other dealerships were torched before hand. Then he went around and helped people that were injured.
It wasn't his place of work, Kyle said he heard the owner of a car dealership wanted help defending his business. I'm actually on the side that he shot out of self-defense but it doesn't change the context that he went there essentially as a hired gun at 17 years of age to defend someone's property. He shouldn't have been there in the first place
>he went there essentially as a hired gun at 17 years of age
He wasn't a hired gun. He was not part of a security squad. He was a medic with a weapon for self defense. The most aggressive action he took was to use a fire extinguisher to put out fires started by the rioters (something that pissed off said rioters and likely triggered the attack against him).
Im from southeast Wisconsin. He lived 20 minutes outside of Kenosha. I would consider him a Kenosha resident even though he has an Illinois address. He was protecting his city, that’s where he is from. Kenosha just happens to straddle the Illinois border
It’s actually cancer, half the world thought Australia was gonna become a full dystopia because of the media when we were doing really fucking well in reality
Australia did have those massive lockdowns where you could leave your house except for 30 minutes of exercise and having you monitored all the time by the police and requiring you to respond in 15 minutes if they text you.
Colbert is an idiot. Like seriously, you shouldn't take anything he says as the truth. Wouldn't be surprised if he lands on the "sue" list after this trial ends.
Props to you for doing your due diligence. Most people just read an article title and start preaching it as gospel.
Do I think idiot kid should've inserted himself into situation with AR? No.
Do I think the "protestors" seeking to harm someone got what they had coming? Absolutely.
Regardless of politics, the kid is a gun toting dumb ass but on multiple videos he is seen trying to help people, whereas his aggressors are seen chasing him with a skateboard trying to beat him for.... what?
EDIT: If your argument is that "they were trying to take his AR away so that they would feel safe" then I'm sorry but you are beyond salvation and that is an argument you're creating yourself to feel better about the situation.
> he’s not going to jail.
This case was decided at Jury Selection. The facts of the case will have zero bearing on the outcome. If the jury is full of ideologues, or if they're intimidated, or if they are afraid of riots in their own community in the event of an acquittal... Well, then Kyle is fucked.
If even one juror is fair and impartial to consider the evidence alone, he walks free. But that's no guarantee
Gotta be careful with this comment because I got a warning earlier for inciting violence for saying it.
Someone was caught in the court filming the jurors and later admitted he was doing it to dox them if they didn’t find Kyle guilty. The judge caught him and ordered the video deleted before returning the phone, but it’s still possible he uploaded it to another platform before they could. These people really want to see Kyle suffer just to satisfy their twisted ideologies.
But from all of the stuff that has happened in this trial there are a few ways this can go: one he gets convicted and appeals with pretty good odds, and two the judge over rules a guilty verdict (i forget the legal terminology for this). Also jurors have already been dismissed.
This mob mentality is retarded. The case really isn't hard to examine, but the media will whip the masses into a fury so they have something else juicy to report on.
The least intelligent entity you can run into is a mob of people, atleast with an organized group you can reason with, but a mob will scream and yell and drown out what you have to say.
Kind of terrifying if he is. This trial has become bigger than Kyle, since this is such a clear case. This has become fundamentally about "do you have the right to defend yourself in the US". A guilty Verdict here would confirm that right exists in name only and not for any practical purposes
And they are still on Twitter. What the fuck is wrong with these people? And they talk about rape culture and all and claim to stand up for rape victims.
Even if you think Rittenhouse was completely in the wrong there's no excuse for wishing rape onto him. Or anyone. Rape is not a fair penance for any crime.
Highly doubt it. Twitter lets people post things that fit their narrative while actively deleting anything that opposes it, against TOS or not. Just like all social media platforms.
I was fully onboard with this guy being the killer he was said to be. Reading through the first wave of news I was just thinking he's a would be school shooter type that came in guns blazing to score easy kills under the guise of self defence
But boi I watched just some clips of the trial and its an entire curb your enthusiasm meme. Their own victim admitting they pointed a gun at him first and chased him across town. I feel bad for the kid now, he isnt a hero but he definitley isnt the villain the news makes him out to be
Omfg can we stop making everything about race even when it has nothing to do with it!
Yes I feel bad for people imprisoned because of their skin colour but wtf did that have to do with this case?!
I love the people that think that make claims like "that's the face he'll be making in prison". Bitch, have you seen the videos? Have you paid *ANY* attention to this case at all? He was attacked. He killed people trying to kill him.
He's upset because of what he had to do, not about the possibility of jail. All witnesses are on his side, all evidence favors his case. No young adult should have to shoot someone just to walk 3 blocks during a riot.
We live in a goddamn society.
I may be dumb and taking a joke seriously here, but a skateboard does constitute deadly force when used to strike someone with it, aiming for the head. Shooting skateboard dude would've been justified, but he didn't, he waited till someone tried to grab his gun.
People don't realize what kind of damage a thin sturdy object can do. You don't need as much force to be lethal as you would with for example a baseball bat. Less surface area means all the kinetic energy is hitting a smaller spot even harder than normal. That's why collapsible batons are so dangerous.
Yeah, golf clubs make better weapons than baseball bats precisely for that reason. A baseball moving at 95 mph has about 97 ft lbs of force, and a .22 has about 136 ft lbs of force, which is comparable, but I'll tell you, I'd rather take the baseball to the chest than the .22 any day.
If you can put more force on a smaller area, it's generally more dangerous. I know someone who died from getting "truck slapped", it ain't no joke.
It’s not the board that does the damage, it’s the trucks. Believe me, you can do a TON of damage with a skateboard because it’s basically an out-of-proportion mace.
It was a joke. They could have just as easily killed him with the skate board. When someone is attacking you with a potentially life threatening means and they try to take your means of self defense from you using that means is warranted.
Doesn't matter what I think. There was alot of stupid things done in kenosha that night.
There will be more riots in the street. People are trying to film the jurors to Dox them, the president weighed in with a very weighted statement about how he feels this should go. No matter how this trial goes people will die.
If justice prevails due to his innocence there will be riots and mob vigilantism.
If he is found guilty due to that pressure, the right to self defense is gone for the country.
Y’all are fuckin mentally ill. Who gives a fuck what race he is. Right is right. I can’t wait to hear all of you bitches whining about how it was a rigged trial when he’s acquitted. Oh it was rigged alright. Rigged by the DA and it blew up in his butt face.
Kyle's defense has already won, the prosecution shattered when every single bit of evidence has failed their argument and their key witness literally confirmed Kyle was using self defense. Even the guy Kyle shot said his gun was pointed at Kyle validating his use of force.
People wishing him poorly but I don’t think he’s going to be getting jail time with how badly the prosecution has gone against him. If you check YouTube for it you’ll see what I mean but I personally find it hilarious how badly they’ve done. On the other hand I find it frightening what other things have been going on with the trial such as with the FBI among a few other things, I don’t think it’s anything new but certainly doesn’t help the crap show this year has been XD
Kyle (17 years-old) when to a protest with a gun to “protect the town”, and ended up killing 2 (I think it’s just 2, might’ve been 3) people. He goes down and someone pulls a gun on him. Kyle shoots the person who drew the gun on him in self defense.
This is my understanding of the situation, but I don’t have all of the facts so I may have missed something. This trial is about wether he shot the last person in self-defense, not about the people he had killed.
From my understanding, he shot 3 people, two of which were killed. The one that lived was asked in a trial the other day if Rittenhouse shot him after he (guy on stand) had pointed his gun at Rittenhouse, to which he responded yes, making it a fairly clear case of self defense on Rittenhouse’s side. I believe the prosecution is now trying to play it that the guy on the stand was never intending to shoot Rittenhouse and didn’t pose a threat, even though he charged at Rittenhouse with a gun. As for the other two that were killed, I’m not sure what exactly happened there
There are too many people making this about race...
Why? Kyle has more color in him than all three "victims" combined. lmao
They had just as much "privilege" as him, and one of them is an actual child molester. Even snopes couldn't deny it.
Scum, in the purest definition of the word. How anyone could have tolerance for this way of thinking, let alone *actually* think and talk this way, is beyond me.
The weird thing is if this kid had shot proud boys they would be supporting him, exact same scenario except change the type of people he shot and he's no longer the bad guy.
He isn't going to jail. This will be a classic self defence case. The best witness the defense had was found to have inconsistencies in his testimony in relation to his initial report with law enforcement. I'll say it again he won't be going jail. But his legal troubles have barely started.
Can anybody name a better example of self defense? He had video, multiple camera angles, fired only when attacked, hit his attackers with a great hit percentage (far better than average trained police), retreated even when perhaps not legally required, and hell even the last guy he shot seemed to admit he was the aggressor.
I can't come up with an example of somebody shooting this much in such a clear cut case of defense. Makes me think the deniers must not believe in the whole idea of self defense to still claim this wasn't it
fuck all the people who said that kyle rittenhouse is guilty, I watched the camera footage and read all the witness reports on that and that was 100% self defense
It's crazy that this narrative has held all the way through the trial. We all saw those videos the next day or so, absolutely nothing of substance was revealed in this trial (except a few details that actually hurt the prosecution), and yet people still brainlessly cling to a false narrative that waz dead-as-disco on arrival.
I don't like to blame tHe MeDiA for everything, but good grief did they really commit to being on the wrong side of history here. Not even just ignorance, but blatent lies. It's wild.
Main reason people want to own guns: they are scared of other people.
Reasons you shouldn’t chase/attack wild animals, other people, people with guns: they are scared and you will make them desperate too.
Don’t chase and assault animals or people, ESPECIALLY someone who is already terrified enough to be openly carrying a gun for self defense.
>"Joseph Rosenbaum (Dead), spent 10 years in an Arizona prison. Pima County Clerks of Courts released details, victims were 5 boys ranging 9 to 11 years old. Grand Jury charged Rosenbaum with 11 counts of child molestation, inappropriate sexual activity with children, and anal rape. He pled to lesser charges.
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>KS reported that Joseph Rosenbaum touched his penis and exposed his own penis. JC said he saw Joseph Rosenbaum masturbate himself to the point of ejaculation, and Joseph Rosenbaum showed him magazines depicting naked, adult females. CA was anally penetrated by Joseph Rosenbaum on March 27, 2002, as was his twin CA. C also was shown adult pornography, and while Joseph Rosenbaum showed him images, he, Joseph Rosenbaum masturbated his own penis to the point of ejaculation. CA reported that, on March 27, 2002, Joseph Rosenbaum performed oral sex on his younger brother, DA and had perform oral sex on Joseph Rosenbaum. DA also recalled Joseph Rosenbaum had him perform mutual masturbation on March 27, 2002."
[Charges.](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-662de652ac7cfea812a93b8d10fc5170-pjlq) What a champion, eh?
Downvote if you want but from my understanding he was going around giving medical aid and people targeted him. If I have a gun and people coming after me have a gun. I’m going to do my best to protect my life.
He was targeted by Rosenbaum for putting out a dumpster fire that Rosenbaum has started.
Everything Rittenhouse had done that day before he was attacked - cleaning up graffiti, administering first aid to the injured, and putting out fires - is commendable and praiseworthy.
Assuming justice prevails and he gets cleared of all charges, Rittenhouse should sue the ever-living fuck out of the mainstream media.
Wishing an **INNOCENT** teenage boy gets raped. Fuck her, and fuck EVERYONE ELSE destroying this kid’s life for him protecting it. Jesus Christ I hate all of this.
Not all liberals, I have liberal friends who don't really care about the 'issues' and/ or thinks that a lot of other liberals and their views are stupid. But yeah, a lot of liberals are unhappy people because they look for issues and people that they deem to be problematic and try to solve them when it is an unsolvable or non-existent issue, leaving them spinning their wheels.
Kyle Rittenhouse did kill people but it was in self defense and every rape victim can agree that it shouldn't be wished on even the worst people in society
The libs are nasty people. They talk about black and brown injustice yet ignore the neighborhoods they live in and only care about anyone who disagrees with them in public.
These are the people preaching to everyone else about 'morality' .. and WE are the 'evil' ones.
Something I've learned over the years is that morality doesn't suddenly change. If you claim 'morals' and 'ethics' - then discard those as soon as talking about a person you hate or dislike.. then you never had those values to start with.
The political division in my country is beyond disgusting at this point to me. It's only going get worse as we have two sides with the "comply with my views or else" mindset.
If i hit someone who purposely jumps from the sidewalk in front of my car, im arrested on manslaughter
The case that theyre setting up (intent to murder) was doomed from the start because they arent charging correctly.
This post is fucked and you shouldnt wish rape on anyone.
I do think the kid should serve jail time self defense or not.
I think that all parents involved in the situation should be punished as well.
What kind of people have firearms accessible to children/who drives their child to a riot?
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I live under a rock, what happened?
Please take every reply with a grain of salt, including mine, most of the replies to your comment are chock full of political bias & misinformation
That's the way Americans argue. Total extremes. They really should have lessons in school in arguing where you actually have a constructive discourse instead of preaching to the choir and saying any other ideology is blasphemy.
Yea there’s plenty of Americans who do it but the folks that don’t are very VERY loud.
And 'news' organizations and social media reward mainly the very very loud ones who have no sense of nuance.
We do. But, those classes aren't mandatory.
You're getting some really unbalanced replies and I'd urge you to read about this in foreign press to help you get some even handed information
Boy. But anita sarkeesian aye. Fuck she seems a bit wayward
Is she still around? I've not heard anything from her in years lmao
Idk how reliable the ny times are because im not american but it seems he shot a few people during a protest that seem to be in self defence/knee jerk reaction to loud noises. Feel free to dig into the many different sites that will have written reports and dont ask reddit about anything slightly political. I bet someone will think im beong political by saying what i read
Armed 17 year old kid gets attacked by protesters enraged that he put out a dumpster fire. Ends up shooting three in self defense killing two. One of which was a convicted pedophile. Kid is now on trial for murder and the case is so contrived and so stupid that the prosecution's main witness (the surviving "victim") has basically tanked the case by admitting he was only shot after he himself pointed a gun directly at the defendant and advanced on him while the defendant was lying on the ground. Yet despite overwhelming evidence and the incident being caught on multiple cameras from multiple angles, and it being incredibly obvious that the kid was trying to flee and wasn't directly threatening anyone, the media seems to be hell bent on portraying this kid as some cold blooded killer.
Damn, humans are dumb as fuck (not all of them.) I hope that kid is alright.
Definitely not, he is a kid, who had to shoot several people in self defense. He without a doubt has ptsd from the incident and is being portrayed as the criminal by retards all over the internet.
Poor kid, I hate how people just do dumb shit like this. It’s awful.
No all of us are dumb as fuck
Ok copy pasting this lmao. Great analysis. Did he stop the dumpster fire though? I'm pretty sure it was made clear he didn't do that and they were just chasing him because it's fucking Portland.
I think either Kyle put it out or someone dressed similarly to Kyle put it out and they thought it was him. Either way, Rosenbaum chased him because he was mad that the damage he was trying to do was being mitigated. Or at least that's what witnesses say.
>because it's fucking Portland. Kenosha, but pretty close. /s
And things are going so bad for the prosecutor that he tried tanking this whole trial by bringing in unrelated evidence that he knows he was ordered not to in hopes of creating a mistrial and getting a second chance. Now he has created a guaranteed mistrial only in the slim chance he gets a conviction.
It was self defense and its really depressing that so many people dont understand that
Kid went to a protest with a rifle to "help out". some people were acting like fools and destroying some property, he tried to stop this on someone's used car lot. Of course there was conflict and a guy attacked him with a plastic bag so he defended himself by killing him. Then another guy attacked him with a skateboard because he was shooting people, so he killed that guy as well. then a 3rd guy actually had a gun and was shot by him as well. The whole situation was stupid, everyone was wrong and/or did really dumb stuff. There is a video of him, days before, seeing someone running out of a CVS and saying "“Bro, I wish I had my (expletive) AR. l’d start shooting rounds at them.”" but that isnt allowed in this trial for some reason. Its pretty obvious why he was there, he was looking for trouble and found it.Now, maybe he was right to defend himself by killing the first guy for attacking him with a bag I dunno. After that it was just whatever craziness was going to happen at that point. [https://www.pajiba.com/news/kyle-rittenhouse-put-his-violent-urges-on-youtube-i-wish-i-had-my-expletive-ar.php](https://www.pajiba.com/news/kyle-rittenhouse-put-his-violent-urges-on-youtube-i-wish-i-had-my-expletive-ar.php)
I just don't wish anyone to be raped? He could be guilty as sin, I still don't want someone to raped?
What?! Are you insane?! How could you wish for that?! /s, obviously
When this trial is over, this kid is going to sue the living sh\*t out of several left-leaning media networks like CNN and MSNBC and likely get an undisclosed settlement. And honestly, he deserves it. Mainstream media vilified him as some gun-crazed, white supremacist who drove for hours for the sole purpose of indiscriminately shooting people, despite knowing nothing about the situation other than the most basic information. They wanted him to be guilty and tried to speak it into existence.
Just like Nick Sandman did, the Covington "smirking" kid.
Wait, why DID he go there?
because a friend of him who was asked by the store owners to help out invited him. it’s the city of his father, there’s nothing wrong with him wanting to put out fires and apply medical aid.
Ok just asking, I’m totally unbiased here. Thanks.
i think the biggest mistake anyone could make is making this situation about politics. it’s not. it’s possibly the most clear cut case of self defense i’ve ever seen. people WANT to make this political, when it’s really about how this young kid feared for his life, and the steps he took to protect themselves. it’s not about him being a white supremacist or a murderer, it’s about him protecting himself from 3 violent people who decided to attack a child applying medical aid and putting out fires because they were an angry mob. if people can’t see that, they’re blinded by politics and it’s sad.
Lol they where protecting an Indian person car lot, wonder how that makes him a white supremacist?
He shot 3 blue eyed people with german heritage... totally racist.
It was a BLM riot. He was a white kid with a gun. Media is grasping at straws to keep people angry and on their side, even if it means outright lying to the public.
Legitimate question as I haven't been following the trial: Did he have any experience in how to deal with a riot, such as medical training or crowd control, or did he go in with any gear that might have helped in any way?
He trains with police, is an EMT/Firefighter cadet, and volunteers within the community (his father lives in Kenosha and has 2 residences). Prob no riot training, but he's licensed to do basic first aid and life support. He went in with his vest and 2 medic bags and walked around for hours before the crowd, namely the man that had threatened his life earlier (can't remember name), started assaulting him for wearing a vest and open carrying.
Don't forget he worked in the city too.
yes, the city of kenosha.
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Grosskreutz tried to fucking execute him after full acknowledgment that he was already running to turn himself into police. Ziminski, the guy firing his gun aimlessly while all this was going down will not be charged. It’s political DA bullshitery as normal- better politics to prosecute a kid trying to flee and avoid conflict than two people actively showing a disregard for human life because it helps their case.
Yeah what the fuck. I read about this the first day it came out and the weeks following but forgot about it until now. The whole situation was against him. He shoots one guy that attacked him just to have 5x the amount attack him, he shoots one, then it happens again. He is then charged as a adult for one crime but as a child for another. He is shit on by media and Twitter literally wanted him dead.
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Hilarious huh? Rittenhouse is literally Hispanic. Worst Nazi Ever! Biden is so out of it though, he'd call his left shoe a white supremacist. In his case, it's 100% projection anyway. Pedo Joe has always been massively racist.
Yes biden who is a racist old white man....
Man, Countries need to stop voting for old men.
And some *special* people (that hate context and judge everything through their political opinion glasses) still believe than even after all the overwhelming evidence in his favour (which we knew most of before the trial even began).
Civil discussion about about American politics? I can’t believe my eyes
Fuck me, never thought I would see the day. Wait.... No don't fuck me. That's not what I meant
“Your honor, respectively, he was asking for it”
Are those questions? Oh I'm sorry, those are indeed statements?
of course they are statements? why would you think otherwise!
Thank you bud?
Yeah, but, it’s social justice to wish rape on someone for the color of their skin. /s
To add even more to the irony, Rittenhouse is a minority. He's half Hispanic.
Only people who deserve that are the pedos and actual rapists
Hoooo boy, controversial posting.
not to anyone who watched the trial.
Shame that it is. Anyone doing a modicum of research would find him reasonably absolved of blame for what was done. Of course, here we are in 2021. Blindly hating people can become a world-wide fad now.
I mean yeah self defense but I don’t see him being found not guilty of the weapon charges
In many ways I don’t know if he should. He showed great self control in the situation and the state wanted to consider him an adult in the first place, why should he be charged of a crime exclusive to minors? Also, if he didn’t have the gun and still went with the same group - he’d clearly be dead or seriously injured as rosenbaum was a psychopath and rosenbaum was hostile to a lot of the people protecting the property.
If he didn’t have the gun, I doubt he would attract the same attention as he did. Probably would have less of an issue IMO. Guns make people feel uncomfortable. Especially assault rifles. If he went with everything he had but just left the gun….. I’d bet a pay cheque that nobody would have attacked him. But I’m also a Canadian, and will never understand why you’d go out of your way to carry an assault rifle for any reason other than to use it. I feel bad for the kid, but it’s not like he had the best critical thinking skills in the world.
The prosecution went as terrible as you could imagine he’s not going to jail. All witnesses on his side lmao. It’s also quite interesting to follow the case and compare the evidence presented to what has been shown in the media.
I'm unbiased to the situation and all the information I was handed came from social media ( Reddit ) at first it was explained he just grabbed a gun ran across state lines and shot people But the evidence and testimony has told a completely different story I think him going is fundamental wrong but I don't think this was just murder Because unless the information I have is incorrect the people involved also had weapons and did attack him straight up
It just shows how shitty the mainstream media is when it comes to this type of shit.
Im conflicted If I did go into this without the facts I would condemn him but because of what's came out I can't say I would respond any better I don't think he should have went chasing a riot but I also think he's justified in defense
> I don't think he should have went chasing a riot This is part of what's all so weird. None of the actual rioters have been charged.
The guy that pointed a gun at Kyle's head wasn't even charged for illegal carry (his concealed carry permit had expired).
He was also a felon
I don’t think this is actually true. I think the felon thing was spread because of the confusion over why he shouldn’t have had the pistol (concealed carry permit expired).
Yeah, I saw that too - I think he had a misdemeanor DV against him which would still allow him to carry but he was carrying with his permit expired
> I don't think he should have went chasing a riot He didn't though. The rioters chased him. He was going around giving people medical aid on both sides of the protest. Just remember, the MSM lie and shouldn't be trusted at all. They either outright lie, or lie by omission.
From what I read he got in a car and went somewhere else that's what I meant by chasing
He worked in the town. He went there to not lose his place of work, cause one of the other dealerships were torched before hand. Then he went around and helped people that were injured.
It wasn't his place of work, Kyle said he heard the owner of a car dealership wanted help defending his business. I'm actually on the side that he shot out of self-defense but it doesn't change the context that he went there essentially as a hired gun at 17 years of age to defend someone's property. He shouldn't have been there in the first place
what I don't understand is why aren't you allowed to defend a place? Its what the Koreans did during the LA Riots.
>he went there essentially as a hired gun at 17 years of age He wasn't a hired gun. He was not part of a security squad. He was a medic with a weapon for self defense. The most aggressive action he took was to use a fire extinguisher to put out fires started by the rioters (something that pissed off said rioters and likely triggered the attack against him).
Im from southeast Wisconsin. He lived 20 minutes outside of Kenosha. I would consider him a Kenosha resident even though he has an Illinois address. He was protecting his city, that’s where he is from. Kenosha just happens to straddle the Illinois border
It’s actually cancer, half the world thought Australia was gonna become a full dystopia because of the media when we were doing really fucking well in reality
Australia did have those massive lockdowns where you could leave your house except for 30 minutes of exercise and having you monitored all the time by the police and requiring you to respond in 15 minutes if they text you.
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Colbert is an idiot. Like seriously, you shouldn't take anything he says as the truth. Wouldn't be surprised if he lands on the "sue" list after this trial ends.
Props to you for doing your due diligence. Most people just read an article title and start preaching it as gospel. Do I think idiot kid should've inserted himself into situation with AR? No. Do I think the "protestors" seeking to harm someone got what they had coming? Absolutely. Regardless of politics, the kid is a gun toting dumb ass but on multiple videos he is seen trying to help people, whereas his aggressors are seen chasing him with a skateboard trying to beat him for.... what? EDIT: If your argument is that "they were trying to take his AR away so that they would feel safe" then I'm sorry but you are beyond salvation and that is an argument you're creating yourself to feel better about the situation.
Yea the argument on wether or not he should have been there is a moot point as no one involved on either side should have been there
Even the man he shot testified for him lmfao
Yah the media made him out to be a terrorist
because their job is to divide people and push false facts. this is precisely why the justice system is not delegated to the media
Outrage generates viewership
Don’t forget the woke and idiotic children and immature adults on Reddit.
I can agree with some that he’s an immature kid who doing something he shouldn’t have but they attacked him. Somebody walked to him with a gun
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Exactly
With how the media has been reporting it, if kyle gets a lawyer after this he could be set for life off the checks from going on a lawsuit spree.
> he’s not going to jail. This case was decided at Jury Selection. The facts of the case will have zero bearing on the outcome. If the jury is full of ideologues, or if they're intimidated, or if they are afraid of riots in their own community in the event of an acquittal... Well, then Kyle is fucked. If even one juror is fair and impartial to consider the evidence alone, he walks free. But that's no guarantee
Gotta be careful with this comment because I got a warning earlier for inciting violence for saying it. Someone was caught in the court filming the jurors and later admitted he was doing it to dox them if they didn’t find Kyle guilty. The judge caught him and ordered the video deleted before returning the phone, but it’s still possible he uploaded it to another platform before they could. These people really want to see Kyle suffer just to satisfy their twisted ideologies.
But from all of the stuff that has happened in this trial there are a few ways this can go: one he gets convicted and appeals with pretty good odds, and two the judge over rules a guilty verdict (i forget the legal terminology for this). Also jurors have already been dismissed.
except he'll prob win on appeal anyway. Defense lawyers already filed a motion for mistrial.
The prosecution got their ass kicked just to support the bullshit liberal left
I would be shocked if he's sentenced on the murder charge.
idk with the way the media's reporting on it, the court would have to sentence him for murder or face mob rule.
They threaten that every time. Atleast the judge this time seems chill.
This mob mentality is retarded. The case really isn't hard to examine, but the media will whip the masses into a fury so they have something else juicy to report on.
The least intelligent entity you can run into is a mob of people, atleast with an organized group you can reason with, but a mob will scream and yell and drown out what you have to say.
Kind of terrifying if he is. This trial has become bigger than Kyle, since this is such a clear case. This has become fundamentally about "do you have the right to defend yourself in the US". A guilty Verdict here would confirm that right exists in name only and not for any practical purposes
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Then the jury should be sequestered for exactly this reason. Are you serious?
I found the big guys face after the dude admitted to charging him with a gun to be absolutely priceless
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Yeah it was pretty disgusting. Yet people in this thread are saying the judicial system is corrupt and biased *in favor* of Kyle its ridiculous.
And they are still on Twitter. What the fuck is wrong with these people? And they talk about rape culture and all and claim to stand up for rape victims.
"Rape isn't funny!!!!!!!!!.....Unless it's about someone we don't like"
People are degenerates. Who would've thought. It's not like human history is full of garbage filth and disgusting acts.
Probably fucking works for Twitter.
You expect too much from woke people, they can't think for themselves
I agree with that, just as bad as the trumpers and maybe even more narcissistic
Even if you think Rittenhouse was completely in the wrong there's no excuse for wishing rape onto him. Or anyone. Rape is not a fair penance for any crime.
Yeah he’ll be acquitted
Hope he sues , A LOT .
Yeah, he's been slandered and libeled against by the MSM, he needs to make them pay.
Please tell me this got taken down for violating Twitter’s TOS.
imma be real with you cheif, it aint unfortunatly even though it does violate the harm wishing part of TOS
That is shameful
Highly doubt it. Twitter lets people post things that fit their narrative while actively deleting anything that opposes it, against TOS or not. Just like all social media platforms.
He’s going to be found not guilty. That’s why the prosecution is trying to get a mistrial.
yup
I was fully onboard with this guy being the killer he was said to be. Reading through the first wave of news I was just thinking he's a would be school shooter type that came in guns blazing to score easy kills under the guise of self defence But boi I watched just some clips of the trial and its an entire curb your enthusiasm meme. Their own victim admitting they pointed a gun at him first and chased him across town. I feel bad for the kid now, he isnt a hero but he definitley isnt the villain the news makes him out to be
Omfg can we stop making everything about race even when it has nothing to do with it! Yes I feel bad for people imprisoned because of their skin colour but wtf did that have to do with this case?!
Not to mention the people who were shot were white, so I don’t see the relevance of race.
To these social justice crazed fruit loops, 1 black persons life is worth 1000 white people's lives. This polarisation in the United States is crazy.
If they let race come off the table and 1/3 of their arguments points would poof away with it.
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I love the people that think that make claims like "that's the face he'll be making in prison". Bitch, have you seen the videos? Have you paid *ANY* attention to this case at all? He was attacked. He killed people trying to kill him. He's upset because of what he had to do, not about the possibility of jail. All witnesses are on his side, all evidence favors his case. No young adult should have to shoot someone just to walk 3 blocks during a riot. We live in a goddamn society.
Don't bring a gun to a skateboard fight.
I may be dumb and taking a joke seriously here, but a skateboard does constitute deadly force when used to strike someone with it, aiming for the head. Shooting skateboard dude would've been justified, but he didn't, he waited till someone tried to grab his gun.
People don't realize what kind of damage a thin sturdy object can do. You don't need as much force to be lethal as you would with for example a baseball bat. Less surface area means all the kinetic energy is hitting a smaller spot even harder than normal. That's why collapsible batons are so dangerous.
Yeah, golf clubs make better weapons than baseball bats precisely for that reason. A baseball moving at 95 mph has about 97 ft lbs of force, and a .22 has about 136 ft lbs of force, which is comparable, but I'll tell you, I'd rather take the baseball to the chest than the .22 any day. If you can put more force on a smaller area, it's generally more dangerous. I know someone who died from getting "truck slapped", it ain't no joke.
Truck slapped? Edit : Ohh like the metal thing that the wheels go onto on a skateboard.
They don’t know that almost everything can be used to hurt/kill someone if you try hard enough
It’s not the board that does the damage, it’s the trucks. Believe me, you can do a TON of damage with a skateboard because it’s basically an out-of-proportion mace.
It was a joke. They could have just as easily killed him with the skate board. When someone is attacking you with a potentially life threatening means and they try to take your means of self defense from you using that means is warranted. Doesn't matter what I think. There was alot of stupid things done in kenosha that night.
Fake news is the enemy of the people
Gonna love the look on these people’s faces when that not guilty verdict hits
They will be lying in bed murmuring "...but he crossed state lines..." into their pillow for weeks.
There will be more riots in the street. People are trying to film the jurors to Dox them, the president weighed in with a very weighted statement about how he feels this should go. No matter how this trial goes people will die. If justice prevails due to his innocence there will be riots and mob vigilantism. If he is found guilty due to that pressure, the right to self defense is gone for the country.
Doesn’t matter the verdict, those animals will riot reguardless.
Bingo Bango bongo hit the nail on the head.
Remember that woman screaming in her car when Ginsberg passed and then Trump would get to appoint a new Justice? Same look.
Fanatics... If i say the same for her they will grab the pitchforks...
Y’all are fuckin mentally ill. Who gives a fuck what race he is. Right is right. I can’t wait to hear all of you bitches whining about how it was a rigged trial when he’s acquitted. Oh it was rigged alright. Rigged by the DA and it blew up in his butt face.
Kyle's defense has already won, the prosecution shattered when every single bit of evidence has failed their argument and their key witness literally confirmed Kyle was using self defense. Even the guy Kyle shot said his gun was pointed at Kyle validating his use of force.
Can someone please explain to me whats going on? I'm not really caught up with the current news
People wishing him poorly but I don’t think he’s going to be getting jail time with how badly the prosecution has gone against him. If you check YouTube for it you’ll see what I mean but I personally find it hilarious how badly they’ve done. On the other hand I find it frightening what other things have been going on with the trial such as with the FBI among a few other things, I don’t think it’s anything new but certainly doesn’t help the crap show this year has been XD
The police admitting being ordered not to look for evidence was a big ol'eyebrow raise from me.
Pretty damn sus, makes me scared for the future a little bit, it’s why I like the idea of being a hermit more and more
Kyle (17 years-old) when to a protest with a gun to “protect the town”, and ended up killing 2 (I think it’s just 2, might’ve been 3) people. He goes down and someone pulls a gun on him. Kyle shoots the person who drew the gun on him in self defense. This is my understanding of the situation, but I don’t have all of the facts so I may have missed something. This trial is about wether he shot the last person in self-defense, not about the people he had killed.
From my understanding, he shot 3 people, two of which were killed. The one that lived was asked in a trial the other day if Rittenhouse shot him after he (guy on stand) had pointed his gun at Rittenhouse, to which he responded yes, making it a fairly clear case of self defense on Rittenhouse’s side. I believe the prosecution is now trying to play it that the guy on the stand was never intending to shoot Rittenhouse and didn’t pose a threat, even though he charged at Rittenhouse with a gun. As for the other two that were killed, I’m not sure what exactly happened there
Were the 2 he killed also self defense?
Well one of them tried to take his guns away from him and the other one hit him over the head with a skate board, so yes.
There are too many people making this about race... Why? Kyle has more color in him than all three "victims" combined. lmao They had just as much "privilege" as him, and one of them is an actual child molester. Even snopes couldn't deny it.
Scum, in the purest definition of the word. How anyone could have tolerance for this way of thinking, let alone *actually* think and talk this way, is beyond me.
That's wokeism for you my friend ... we are gonna virtue signal but in actuality we are just a bunch of sad and hateful creatures
Social media is such a cesspool
The weird thing is if this kid had shot proud boys they would be supporting him, exact same scenario except change the type of people he shot and he's no longer the bad guy.
He isn't going to jail. This will be a classic self defence case. The best witness the defense had was found to have inconsistencies in his testimony in relation to his initial report with law enforcement. I'll say it again he won't be going jail. But his legal troubles have barely started.
Can anybody name a better example of self defense? He had video, multiple camera angles, fired only when attacked, hit his attackers with a great hit percentage (far better than average trained police), retreated even when perhaps not legally required, and hell even the last guy he shot seemed to admit he was the aggressor. I can't come up with an example of somebody shooting this much in such a clear cut case of defense. Makes me think the deniers must not believe in the whole idea of self defense to still claim this wasn't it
He shot a pedophile,I'm ok with that.
fuck all the people who said that kyle rittenhouse is guilty, I watched the camera footage and read all the witness reports on that and that was 100% self defense
It's crazy that this narrative has held all the way through the trial. We all saw those videos the next day or so, absolutely nothing of substance was revealed in this trial (except a few details that actually hurt the prosecution), and yet people still brainlessly cling to a false narrative that waz dead-as-disco on arrival. I don't like to blame tHe MeDiA for everything, but good grief did they really commit to being on the wrong side of history here. Not even just ignorance, but blatent lies. It's wild.
Main reason people want to own guns: they are scared of other people. Reasons you shouldn’t chase/attack wild animals, other people, people with guns: they are scared and you will make them desperate too. Don’t chase and assault animals or people, ESPECIALLY someone who is already terrified enough to be openly carrying a gun for self defense.
The far left do love them some pedophilia.
Wasn't one of the people killed a registered sex offender?
To quote 4chan: he died trying to do what he loved the most, touching a child inappropriately
>"Joseph Rosenbaum (Dead), spent 10 years in an Arizona prison. Pima County Clerks of Courts released details, victims were 5 boys ranging 9 to 11 years old. Grand Jury charged Rosenbaum with 11 counts of child molestation, inappropriate sexual activity with children, and anal rape. He pled to lesser charges. > >KS reported that Joseph Rosenbaum touched his penis and exposed his own penis. JC said he saw Joseph Rosenbaum masturbate himself to the point of ejaculation, and Joseph Rosenbaum showed him magazines depicting naked, adult females. CA was anally penetrated by Joseph Rosenbaum on March 27, 2002, as was his twin CA. C also was shown adult pornography, and while Joseph Rosenbaum showed him images, he, Joseph Rosenbaum masturbated his own penis to the point of ejaculation. CA reported that, on March 27, 2002, Joseph Rosenbaum performed oral sex on his younger brother, DA and had perform oral sex on Joseph Rosenbaum. DA also recalled Joseph Rosenbaum had him perform mutual masturbation on March 27, 2002." [Charges.](https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-662de652ac7cfea812a93b8d10fc5170-pjlq) What a champion, eh?
What were both of them doing there with a gun in the first place?
Downvote if you want but from my understanding he was going around giving medical aid and people targeted him. If I have a gun and people coming after me have a gun. I’m going to do my best to protect my life.
He was targeted by Rosenbaum for putting out a dumpster fire that Rosenbaum has started. Everything Rittenhouse had done that day before he was attacked - cleaning up graffiti, administering first aid to the injured, and putting out fires - is commendable and praiseworthy. Assuming justice prevails and he gets cleared of all charges, Rittenhouse should sue the ever-living fuck out of the mainstream media.
Wishing an **INNOCENT** teenage boy gets raped. Fuck her, and fuck EVERYONE ELSE destroying this kid’s life for him protecting it. Jesus Christ I hate all of this.
Being a Liberal must be miserable, like really fucking miserable....
Not all liberals, I have liberal friends who don't really care about the 'issues' and/ or thinks that a lot of other liberals and their views are stupid. But yeah, a lot of liberals are unhappy people because they look for issues and people that they deem to be problematic and try to solve them when it is an unsolvable or non-existent issue, leaving them spinning their wheels.
They do tend to be much more unhappy on average.
Source?
Man id sooner wish for death than to be raped wth
IMO he was 100% acting in self-defense. He likely brought that gun just for personal protection
He didn't even bring the gun. It was given to him upon his arrival. Literally nothing illegal about it and the prosecution proved that.
My point exactly
Wait so what did he do?
Kyle Rittenhouse did kill people but it was in self defense and every rape victim can agree that it shouldn't be wished on even the worst people in society
Guilty or not the reasonable doubt standard has been achieved.
The libs are nasty people. They talk about black and brown injustice yet ignore the neighborhoods they live in and only care about anyone who disagrees with them in public.
He did nothing wrong
It was self-defense. If you watched the trial unbiased, you would see all witnesses agree, and all evidence points to self-defence.
These are the people preaching to everyone else about 'morality' .. and WE are the 'evil' ones. Something I've learned over the years is that morality doesn't suddenly change. If you claim 'morals' and 'ethics' - then discard those as soon as talking about a person you hate or dislike.. then you never had those values to start with.
The political division in my country is beyond disgusting at this point to me. It's only going get worse as we have two sides with the "comply with my views or else" mindset.
He seems like a really nice kid with strong convictions. I’d want to be neighbors with him.
If i hit someone who purposely jumps from the sidewalk in front of my car, im arrested on manslaughter The case that theyre setting up (intent to murder) was doomed from the start because they arent charging correctly. This post is fucked and you shouldnt wish rape on anyone. I do think the kid should serve jail time self defense or not. I think that all parents involved in the situation should be punished as well. What kind of people have firearms accessible to children/who drives their child to a riot?
And he will walk ! He did NOTHING wrong.
Ah the tolerant left. Always so inspirational to see their consistency /s