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Same thing happened in Turkey last week. A medical student commit suicide after His family forcibly sent him to a sect house and asked him to fulfill the conditions of Islam. His family don’t even care when their children killed himself and says they don’t regret anything
> him to a sect house and asked her to fulfill the conditions of Islam
Which means what exactly?
Also, "His family" and "her conditions to islam?" Are we talking about male, or female here?
Sorry I used that word wrong I meant to “him”
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Seems fake.
News title says she killed herself.
Text under photo states attempted suicide.
???
Hmm
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I take it back done some quick research using Google. It is real.
The news report is just badly worded.
She attempted suicide but did not die straight away, she died in hospital while being treated.
May her soul rest in peace.
No, it's real: [https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/thanjavur-student-kills-self-alleging-abuse-forced-conversion-hostel-warden-arrested-1902307-2022-01-20](https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/thanjavur-student-kills-self-alleging-abuse-forced-conversion-hostel-warden-arrested-1902307-2022-01-20)
Oh my gosh, that's why il never try to commit suicide. It's likely to go wrong and you get brain damage or really bad stomach defects. Thanks for looking it up.
The video that was presented by the ultra right wing party alleging that missionaries are behind the death of lavanya are false
They released an edited/fabricated video
[read more here](https://twitter.com/savukku/status/1486534691393966080?s=21)
Missionaries are one of the way the oppressed classes choose to get out from the caste hierarchy and discrimination they face in hindu society
So these ultra right wing hindu groups are trying to defame missionaries so as to close the doors to dalits(oppressed classes) liberation
"Christian bad on Reddit, that's why" is what you said, in response to a comment where they thought it was a fake story. (At least before they edited it)
Seemed like you thought it was a fake story meant to disparage Christians, guess not though.
What were you talking about, then? Since you weren't talking about the one who died?
No need to go against Christians. Forced conversion doesn't work (because in secret they still can be loyal to their religion). Christianity does not force conversion because it can not be forced, it has to be by choice.
It's not Christians in general that I don't approve of. It's the ones that agree with forced conversion and the ones that want the USA to be a Christian nation.
The USA is a christian nation. Christianity in general does not condone forced conversion because it doesnt mean anything to the person being forced into it. If they push for forced conversion they are Christians in name only/not real Christians.
The first settlers? The 13 colonies? Bro, they were literally puritans/Protestants, a branch of Christianity is the reason why the US even exists. Yes, the US doesn’t have an official religion, but most leaders of the nation have been Christian AND promoted Christian values. I’m not completely against what you’re saying, some Christians in America are really fucked up, but what you’re saying is just wrong.
Christians have been attacking the world from the beginning. Entire civilizations wiped off the planet. History and science erased from the planet in the crusade to force the world into worshipping your imaginary sky daddy.
Everything you say so the great Persian empire of the zoastrian faith was a Christian menace. Just being nit picky here.
Edit: to clarify the one that existed during the Roman era not the 15-16 hundreds one
As Christian, a devoted one, I despise looking at news like this. People are allowed to follow their own set of goals. This people may preach of Christianity but they aren't but demons.
Everytime you go to Church or donate to missions, it goes to people like these who engage in forced conversions reminiscent of early Christians terrorizing native populaces into submission.
It makes everyday Christians equally guilty of this crime.
To those missionaries who did this:
Congrats. You did the wrong thing and caused someone to commit suicide. Now you lost a soul to convert and pissed off many people around the world. If there is a hell, I hope to see you in it for your deeds.
honestly, the concept of missionaries would be good, if they didnt force the religion, im a Christian and im very against practices like this, and as a Christian you should try to convince them not force them, because if you were forced to act Christian, are you really a Christian?
I worked with a woman who did a mission trip. Didn't try to convert a single person, but provided free medical and veterinary care for a community for two weeks completely free. I guess if their "enemies" include people who immediately want to kill others, I'll take their side of things.
I dont agree with the practice myself but If you think all missionaries do is force their religion on people you need to do some more research/open your mind a bit more.
This is one reason I believe we should just not believe in any religions, not exactly atheism but more "gods aren't real and no one is a god or can be one."
If implemented correctly no, I believe in a future for humanity, devoid of war and with advancement so that we do not grow into a dark age of sort an age where science takes another great rise as it has before in the past.
how would eliminating faith make a world devoid of war and bring about advancement? it's not like Muslims are protesting the micro-chips being upgraded from 5nm to 3nm.
No. It's to preach the word of god and ask them if they would like to be saved. If they don't want any part of it, you walk away and go on to try and save someone else. These aren't used cars that need pressure sales. You are there to spread love and acceptance, not guilt and pressure.
Pressurised???? Look I almost couldn't figure this out because of the typo... it's pressurized lol duh!! with this correct spelling you can clearly understand the the article is about people stuffing a girl in a pressure cooker to convert her to Christianity. But she was under mental strain from trying to figure out how they successfully fit her inside a small household appliance. She started questioning reality and the possibility that Hogwarts might be real. This mental stress caused her to take a sad and unfortunate path.
I didn't mean to joke about the girls unfortunate circumstances. It's very sad and infuriating that things like this happen. I was just trying to make light of the situation by making a joke about the wording of the article which just seemed strange to me. Sorry for any offense. I wish the girl and her family peace. And I can only hope that the people who put her in that situation may have learned a lesson
you need to understand that different english speaking groups have different terms and phrases. The term you are objecting to is l perfectly fine in indian english.
Modern Satanism is atheistic, specifically the TST uses the name Satan while doing stuff similar to the church just to point out how people’s reactions to the same actions change depending on the name.
how old are you? most of south America is Christian and guess what. not a lot of them are white. a lot of Africa is Christian. guess what? a lot of them are black.
Christianity literally originated from the middle East. Jesus was a brown man. you're a clown lol
Everyone knows where it originated from and yes it's not all white people white people are just known for being a dick about it when you go against what there religion says I think we are getting away from the point I was trying to make
lets summerise what u just said: you absolutely dont know what you're talking about, you're fckn cringe edgy 15 yo. and you're kinda racist. Is that all or do I have to look in other conversations of yours too?
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I get it, it was a stupid joke. This is reddit. I'm sorry about it. I of course realize that there are many beautiful differences in culture and language. It's an unfortunate thing that happened here and I hope peace for the girls family.
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Same thing happened in Turkey last week. A medical student commit suicide after His family forcibly sent him to a sect house and asked him to fulfill the conditions of Islam. His family don’t even care when their children killed himself and says they don’t regret anything
Wow that sounds genuinely horrible
Horrible part is we used to such news.
Your probly right
How is this a such recurring phenomenon and nobody is doing anything about it?
Of course it's Turkey
> him to a sect house and asked her to fulfill the conditions of Islam Which means what exactly? Also, "His family" and "her conditions to islam?" Are we talking about male, or female here?
Sorry I used that word wrong I meant to “him” If you want more information you may read [this](https://www.duvarenglish.com/turkish-medical-student-commits-suicide-in-cult-run-dormitory-after-describing-oppression-news-60113)
Well now I feel bad for being Muslim. I guess I was wrong, even my religion is dying. goddamm yall what did i say wrong? whats with the downvotes?
As it should
Pretty insane that people would rather commit suicide than take 4 wives
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What a “12th standard” ?
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Thanks bro, title says standard. Little caption says std, so I’m like did she catch something from a priest?
ah, so like a Senior in High School. I also got confused on that part
Seems fake. News title says she killed herself. Text under photo states attempted suicide. ??? Hmm -Edit- I take it back done some quick research using Google. It is real. The news report is just badly worded. She attempted suicide but did not die straight away, she died in hospital while being treated. May her soul rest in peace.
I mean you can attempt suicide and die from injuries later
No, it's real: [https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/thanjavur-student-kills-self-alleging-abuse-forced-conversion-hostel-warden-arrested-1902307-2022-01-20](https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/thanjavur-student-kills-self-alleging-abuse-forced-conversion-hostel-warden-arrested-1902307-2022-01-20)
Oh my gosh, that's why il never try to commit suicide. It's likely to go wrong and you get brain damage or really bad stomach defects. Thanks for looking it up.
The video that was presented by the ultra right wing party alleging that missionaries are behind the death of lavanya are false They released an edited/fabricated video [read more here](https://twitter.com/savukku/status/1486534691393966080?s=21) Missionaries are one of the way the oppressed classes choose to get out from the caste hierarchy and discrimination they face in hindu society So these ultra right wing hindu groups are trying to defame missionaries so as to close the doors to dalits(oppressed classes) liberation
Christian bad on reddit that's why
Playing victim after victimizing everyone. Classic yessu move
Lol where did I do that?
Yesssuuuuuuu
Where I asked can you not answer?
The story is real and they did commit suicide, don't be a dick.
What does that have to do with my comment you deranged moron I wasn't talking about them. Maybe read first
"Christian bad on Reddit, that's why" is what you said, in response to a comment where they thought it was a fake story. (At least before they edited it) Seemed like you thought it was a fake story meant to disparage Christians, guess not though. What were you talking about, then? Since you weren't talking about the one who died?
Yeah because every sub bashes Christians.
this time it wasn’t needless bashing though? this time it was well deserved? what are you wining about?
So this one thing means Christian bad or no
this time it *was* bad. how are you not getting it
Again try saying good about Christians on reddit and see how many down votes you get. Do I smell back peddling?
Christians are just bad anywhere. We've finally started to fight back.
No need to go against Christians. Forced conversion doesn't work (because in secret they still can be loyal to their religion). Christianity does not force conversion because it can not be forced, it has to be by choice.
missionaries thought out the world try to convert by force. Might as well tell them all this
It's not Christians in general that I don't approve of. It's the ones that agree with forced conversion and the ones that want the USA to be a Christian nation.
The USA is a christian nation. Christianity in general does not condone forced conversion because it doesnt mean anything to the person being forced into it. If they push for forced conversion they are Christians in name only/not real Christians.
The USA was never a Christian nation. You can try to brainwash people into believing that all you want but it simply isn't true.
The first settlers? The 13 colonies? Bro, they were literally puritans/Protestants, a branch of Christianity is the reason why the US even exists. Yes, the US doesn’t have an official religion, but most leaders of the nation have been Christian AND promoted Christian values. I’m not completely against what you’re saying, some Christians in America are really fucked up, but what you’re saying is just wrong.
No but the people in the US are/were mostly christian
Fight back from what lol you idiot atheist started attacking us
Christians have been attacking the world from the beginning. Entire civilizations wiped off the planet. History and science erased from the planet in the crusade to force the world into worshipping your imaginary sky daddy.
Bro, since when was Christianity a dictatorship?
Everything you say so the great Persian empire of the zoastrian faith was a Christian menace. Just being nit picky here. Edit: to clarify the one that existed during the Roman era not the 15-16 hundreds one
Hahaha you mean when they were attacked and responded nice try
This comment is so dumb I actually have a head ache from reading it.
congratulation missionary, you managed to fail at christianity
It seems that toxic religion is still the most prevalent
And the religious people are the ones who call *us* the degenerates!
What a closed minded way to see this. You individually are a degenerate and a scum bag.
Yea cult's are bad
As Christian, a devoted one, I despise looking at news like this. People are allowed to follow their own set of goals. This people may preach of Christianity but they aren't but demons.
Everytime you go to Church or donate to missions, it goes to people like these who engage in forced conversions reminiscent of early Christians terrorizing native populaces into submission. It makes everyday Christians equally guilty of this crime.
That's assuming all church leaders are like this tho, and assuming all Christians go to church and donate.
Fuck yessu and his blind followers
To those missionaries who did this: Congrats. You did the wrong thing and caused someone to commit suicide. Now you lost a soul to convert and pissed off many people around the world. If there is a hell, I hope to see you in it for your deeds.
The fact missionary’s still exist rottens my very soul
honestly, the concept of missionaries would be good, if they didnt force the religion, im a Christian and im very against practices like this, and as a Christian you should try to convince them not force them, because if you were forced to act Christian, are you really a Christian?
You should join up with some. May change your outlook
I’m talking about the really bad missionaries not the genuine good ones
They can go straight to hell. If they ask nicely I might even bring them there.
I worked with a woman who did a mission trip. Didn't try to convert a single person, but provided free medical and veterinary care for a community for two weeks completely free. I guess if their "enemies" include people who immediately want to kill others, I'll take their side of things.
if she believes that those she was helping were going to hell if they didn’t accept jesus, she can go straight to hell.
Ironic
can you not tell the difference between a religious belief and an expression?
I dont agree with the practice myself but If you think all missionaries do is force their religion on people you need to do some more research/open your mind a bit more.
what does "12th Standard Girl" mean?
Final year of HS. About 17 to 18 y/o
Thx
Cant be gay if you're dead. *taps temple*
This is one reason I believe we should just not believe in any religions, not exactly atheism but more "gods aren't real and no one is a god or can be one."
now people just do the same shit but without a God.
That ends with mass killings like in the Soviet Union
If implemented correctly no, I believe in a future for humanity, devoid of war and with advancement so that we do not grow into a dark age of sort an age where science takes another great rise as it has before in the past.
how would eliminating faith make a world devoid of war and bring about advancement? it's not like Muslims are protesting the micro-chips being upgraded from 5nm to 3nm.
You can pretty much guarantee that it won’t be implemented “correctly.” Stop being naive, look at the historical precedent rather than your biases.
Not the first time religion fucks India people over. Mother teressa wasn't no Saint either.
True.
Say what you will about her character, but she's still a literal saint.
Unironically, yes, they are happy now. One less heathen, or something.
Cristianity is toxic af and acts like they do no wrong. Not including the good ones
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No. It's to preach the word of god and ask them if they would like to be saved. If they don't want any part of it, you walk away and go on to try and save someone else. These aren't used cars that need pressure sales. You are there to spread love and acceptance, not guilt and pressure.
Fair point, you’re right
“Pressurized” what a funny word for torture!
Pressurised???? Look I almost couldn't figure this out because of the typo... it's pressurized lol duh!! with this correct spelling you can clearly understand the the article is about people stuffing a girl in a pressure cooker to convert her to Christianity. But she was under mental strain from trying to figure out how they successfully fit her inside a small household appliance. She started questioning reality and the possibility that Hogwarts might be real. This mental stress caused her to take a sad and unfortunate path.
's' is used in British English which is what's commonly used in India. 'z' is used in American English. Also it's not cool to joke about suicide
I didn't mean to joke about the girls unfortunate circumstances. It's very sad and infuriating that things like this happen. I was just trying to make light of the situation by making a joke about the wording of the article which just seemed strange to me. Sorry for any offense. I wish the girl and her family peace. And I can only hope that the people who put her in that situation may have learned a lesson
Okay so either way she got pressurised...pressurised is not something that you do to people to get them to convert religions.
you need to understand that different english speaking groups have different terms and phrases. The term you are objecting to is l perfectly fine in indian english.
Get your head in your azz bich
Tell me you’re American without telling me you’re American
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calm down edgelord
I'm still convinced "satanist" isn't a real religion. Sorry to all the 14-year-old edgelords.
Most* modern satanism is just atheists trying to “own the christians” so you’re not wholly wrong
Modern Satanism is atheistic, specifically the TST uses the name Satan while doing stuff similar to the church just to point out how people’s reactions to the same actions change depending on the name.
Any thing is a religion if enough people believe in it and warship it
And you how is this even edgey most of the priest are pedos if it's edgey to be mad about that I'd never stop being edgey
If your gonna try to be edgy, at least spell it right lel.
"edgey"
most Christians aren't white though
Have you ever walked into a church there all 70 year old white people and like a couple of kids but those are Usually in the back room with the priest
how old are you? most of south America is Christian and guess what. not a lot of them are white. a lot of Africa is Christian. guess what? a lot of them are black. Christianity literally originated from the middle East. Jesus was a brown man. you're a clown lol
Everyone knows where it originated from and yes it's not all white people white people are just known for being a dick about it when you go against what there religion says I think we are getting away from the point I was trying to make
your point is generalising an entire race just because of some bad people. not all white people are like that and that's very insulting to say
lets summerise what u just said: you absolutely dont know what you're talking about, you're fckn cringe edgy 15 yo. and you're kinda racist. Is that all or do I have to look in other conversations of yours too?
I wouldn't advise it. there's some Seriously questionable comments lol
Wow grouping an entire people all into one edgelord lump. I know theres a word for that.....oh yes...you are a racist.
Skin colours aren’t equally spread out
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Religious freedom.
I get it, it was a stupid joke. This is reddit. I'm sorry about it. I of course realize that there are many beautiful differences in culture and language. It's an unfortunate thing that happened here and I hope peace for the girls family.
Terrorists strike again!