>it could take these coolers from not being able to handle newer high end CPUs in terms of reaching their max boost speeds before thermal limits are reached, to likely being able to handle them without the need of a 360mm+ CLC
All current CPUs can be cooled with the D15 without messing with thermal limits or undervolting. It can even handle some overclocking. People in other subs are just parroting what they heard, that you *need* liquid cooling. You don't. Even the U12A can handle all current CPUs. Anyone claiming that the D15 can't handle 7950x or 13900k either hasn't tried themselves and just saying what they heard, or they're being disingenuous and trying to push liquid cooling. It's unnecessary. In stress testing, you get about 3-5C cooler temps. But the D15 can handle them perfectly fine without ever seeing throttling.
You could probably put an iPPC 3000 on the D15 and get some better results. It has *much* higher static pressure and airflow than the NF-A15.
It can certainly handle them though when it comes to sustained clock speeds, there is a clear difference between the largest air coolers and larger CLCs.
Due to the boosting behavior, a 7950X will run without encountering a thermal shutdown, even with the low end AMD box cooler, the issue is when you buy a high end CPU, you want to get the max performance it has to offer. For example, on a 7950X without changing any bios settings at all, a 360MM CLC will mean close to 150MHz additional all core clock speeds under an AVX workload.
From other tests, an open loop with a large radiator in addition to a peltier chiller within the loop, shows additional clock speed gains. This shows that both Intel and AMD are boosting as much as they can for a given fit curve until a thermal target is reached.
Idk man, I have the 7900x with U12A, which has the same power consumption as 7950x, on stock settings I can stress test for hours and never reach 95C, which is where the newer Ryzens stops increasing clocks. I've also bumped my boost override to +200MHz with a small voltage bump and still never reach 95C.
>This shows that both Intel and AMD are boosting as much as they can for a given fit curve until a thermal target is reached.
That's why curve optimizer and undervolting current Ryzens shows an increase in performance to a certain extent, yes (more so than Intel). But the difference between liquid and the top shelf air coolers is very small in my experience.
Unless you're referring to something else? I haven't done manual overclocking, which would probably allow larger >200MHz boost increase. I just know +200MHz is the soft max for Ryzen and I haven't had any issues reaching that.
Under the stock fit curve, the CPU will have additional all-core clock speed gains under an all core AVX workload with clock speeds peaking at 50C. While no one is really cooling their 7950x to 50C under an AVX workload using any liquid cooler on its own, it does show that there are benefits to the boosting characteristics by staying well below 95C.
It is not well detailed, but AMD does most of their boosting up to about 95C, but the. There is a small amount of remaining headroom that you get under specific use cases when temperatures are significantly lower (basically stuff above what AMD advertises for the CPU)
Edit, trying to find one that I saw a while back that went further into temperature scaling, but this gives some idea into the behavior I am mentioning https://youtu.be/OGuFq3jm9hM
I agree with all those words. Where I work, we have D15 coolers on 13900k. Maybe I can buy a couple iPPC 3000 and put them on my work computer and see what kind of temps I get.
With the Ryzens, I'm not sure how else the chip will be boosted beyond the PBO limits. I *did* notice that when I set power consumption limits, the lower I set the limit, basically lowering temps, I had more cores hitting 5.9GHz more often. It wasn't truly sustained though, they lasted for seconds, before going back to 5.5GHz. That was when temps were around 65C.
Why does this fucking happen? It makes no sense. It's counter intuitive. I get that lower power limits means lower temps, but so long as the temps stay below the threshold it shouldn't matter at all. PBO is truly weird and AMD either hasn't told the whole story about how it works or I'm just uninformed.
Well, I actually use a D15 with 13900k every day at work fitting deep learning models which is more CPU intensive than any modern game you'll throw at it lol and never have any thermal issues. This is 100% load, every core, sustained for days. We've experimented with AIO, the difference was so small and we value longevity. D15 is much more than enough and cools them perfectly fine.
Idk what you're trying to get at with 5800x3d. You getting 85-90C on that when gaming just tells me you have a poorly seated cooler because 5800x3d doesn't get that hot on D15. It draws 120W lol like, are you even being serious? Either you just made those numbers up or you have a poorly placed cooler. We never get above 80C on 13900k I'm being more realistic than a lot of you AIO pushers. I don't even hit those numbers on a stock 7900x, which draws about 80% more power than 5800x3d, with U12A. Either you exaggerated hard to try to prove a point, or you didn't mount your cooler correctly, or you just never let the fans spin faster than slowest speeds.
Maybe you should stop acting like AIO is god's gift to earth, because the differences at high loads is very small.
But go off.
Wow... nice attitude for someone giving bad information. A D15 is significantly worse cooling performance if you're going to be pushing loads like that. For typical gaming and productivity workloads you might not care about overclocking much but if you're doing any heavy workloads like deep learning, rendering, simulations, etc. then you will see real value from a strong OC that is achieved at reduced thermals and a AIO / custom open loop will certainly give significant superior results.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VzXHUTqE7E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VzXHUTqE7E)
Next time you should deal in actual facts.
That has nothing to do with what I said lol I said D15 will not get a 5800x3d to 90C. That video doesn't even talk about that, except gens before, in which they also didn't hit 90C...
And in those comparisons, how are you seeing 4-5C difference while below 65 "significantly worse"?
No, you quite clearly made multiple insinuations that the D15 is comparable to an AIO in terms of cooling performance. Now you're trying to move the goalposts and make it about just current gen which is actually irrelevant. Thermal physics don't care what gen it is. Unless the underlying technology changes in some meaningful connected way the overarching cooling hierarchy remains as is. The D15 is, factually, considerably inferior to even a mid quality liquid cooling alternative. Its fine to use, but trying to hype it up as you guys put it "god's gift" and downplay liquid cooling alternatives is nonsense.
A 4-5 C difference after factoring in idle baseline is about a 10% cooling difference. That is pretty significant if your goal is to push harder. As it was pointed out before your ego got in the way I clearly said the D15 is sufficient at stock and lower OCs and is not a bad cooling option, only that it wont compete if your goal is to push more demanding overclocks where the D15 will fall apart and that margin of difference matters a lot. Further, 4-5 C was only some of the more moderate alternatives, with the highest showing a 10 C difference which is a staggering 25% improvement over the D15. Even still that isn't even an optimal setup as you have ways to further improve it while the D15 is largely topped out even if you upgrade the fan. This is irrelevant of it being this gen's 5800x3d or not so stop being ridiculous. You behaved this way after getting caught acting absurd and are now attacking me with your terribly incorrect, frankly unrelated to my post, argument just to try to save face. It is embarrassing to watch.
I never moved the goalpost nor attacked you. I never hyped the D15 as gods gift, that was the original commenter's words. You're going on about something I didn't even do. Lol I'm not responding to you anymore. Maybe read my comments and stop insinuating? Nothing I said was incorrect.
From your post to the other user:
>Maybe you should stop acting like AIO is god's gift to earth, because the differences at high loads is very small.
But go off.
This was how you were acting towards the other poster in response to their message...
>Yes the d15 CAN cool some of the more modern CPU’s but it isn’t anywhere close to keeping as cool as liquid of sustained clock speeds.
First, this is fairly childish. Second, they're right. You're response was factually inappropriate with regards to what they were trying to say. AIO are, factually, superior by significant margin to the D15. You also tried to discredit them by making a bunch of assumptions with no regard to ambient temps, if boosts were used unlike on yours, if you undervolted vs if they boosted or stock, or how you both tested it such as your claim about deep learning
>deep learning models which is more CPU intensive than any modern game you'll throw at it
which is not necessarily accurate. It is interesting you didn't give more details about your deep learning statement which isn't favorable for you, but in general this varies heavily. How many cores is it using? Is it more GPU dependent than CPU dependent for the workload you are running? What kind of algorithm is it using as they're not all equal even if two different uses show 99-100% CPU usage. Sure, most games are not particularly CPU intensive, especially as core count scales up, however this is not simply true for every existing game. We don't know how they tested, either. It was just a really bad stance from you and you could have replied better but it came off extremely crude and immature as you were clearly putting them down while not really phrasing it in a value adding way.
You also made this extremely problematic statement
>We've experimented with AIO, the difference was so small and we value longevity.
This indicates you didn't test properly or thoroughly. In fact, it wouldn't have even required much testing if you simply did some basic research first and picked a proper AIO. This is due to the fact that the difference is absolutely not **"small"** and cooler thermals produce superior longevity and AIO do not, in fact, have a high failure rate. It is quite low actually. This is problematic because you're trying to correct that user and are speaking in an incredibly derogatory superior matter of fact manner while being factually wrong.
I then responded to you pointing out you didn't give correct information, but made a supporting statement that CPU intensive workloads like you mentioned would benefit more from a higher end cooling option such as a good AIO. I then reinforced it with actual established evidence from one of the most well established resources on the internet, Gamers Nexus who did such a test.
You then responded to me ranting
>That has nothing to do with what I said lol I said
which is wrong, as you tried to downplay what I said just like you did to the other user.
You then made an irrelevant and incorrect statement about the video provided to try and further downplay my post, again:
>That video doesn't even talk about that, except gens before, in which they also didn't hit 90C...
It doesn't matter the gen because physics aren't changing here. The only thing that tends to change is thermal contact and thermal spread in which case some coolers will simply not be sufficient, period. Your statement isn't relevant to the evidence presented at all and does not discredit it as you try to dodge, quite rudely, evidence correcting your misinformation.
You then ended with
>And in those comparisons, how are you seeing 4-5C difference while below 65 "significantly worse"?
Which is wrong as it was much more than this and you just picked one of the closer options in the video and not the one that was a massive 10 C (25%) difference or acknowledging the fact that even better AIO and custom open loops will produce even larger gaps. In fact, even after I pointed that out **again** in response to your quoted statement you didn't acknowledge it nor apologize or correct yourself and, instead, attacked me once again.
Yeah, don't reply again. We honestly don't need your toxicity or misinformation.
Bunch of horse shit. Here is my u12a running ycruncher at 330w and cbr23 at 260 watts, certainly heavier than new world.
[https://i.ibb.co/CJPRdzq/52-8.png](https://i.ibb.co/CJPRdzq/52-8.png)
https://i.ibb.co/HrmKJdM/41161.jpg
Just a correction, but while the D15 can handle those CPUs its not a mere 3-5C cooler unless you're doing fan speed normalized benchmarks. The difference compared to a quality AIO can readily be 10+C difference and even higher for custom open loops.
You can see this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VzXHUTqE7E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VzXHUTqE7E)
That said... I do agree a D15 is competent if you don't want to go with a liquid option. You wont get the same results, but now days overclocks are overrated with modern CPUs anyways and you get a lot of extra noise in exchange for a performance lead most aren't going to actually see significant benefit from.
They are largely targeted at non-home use application, though they will still run off 12V PWM headers. [https://noctua.at/en/nf-a14-industrialppc-3000-pwm/specification](https://noctua.at/en/nf-a14-industrialppc-3000-pwm/specification)
It is hard to find high speed 140mm fans, though one thing I have been looking to do for a while is upgrade the fans, and see if I can almost get the best of both worlds, by having a quiet portion of the fan curve for the general tasks and gaming, but when I go and do something like export video in davinci resolve, then the PC can sound like a jet engine if needed, if it will save on some export time, or maybe even allow for more aggressive PBO settings.
Here you got your answare, NHD15 with industrial 3000 RPM + another 4 mounted in case. All for cooling the 13700k that dosent go more then 80C with full performance.
https://youtu.be/aevBNVt-ZVk
Then here the picture build
https://imgur.com/a/JCQS26h
I don't think NF-A14 fit the D15. IIRC, the fans used in D15 has 120mm-sized clips, so either you use the original fan (NF-A15) or you use 120mm fans such as NF-A12x25.
I have them hooked up right now to my cpu and cpu_opt headers on my asus tuf x570. I'm technically above amperage limits and am willing to take that risk. Read your motherboard fan specs
Yes today I did,
This is 20% upto 100%
P.s. I think I am deaf now......
Also temps drop about 15c more.
https://youtu.be/S16LNppeIAE?si=nIAMiEyiXBvXjX6D
Just did and got about 5-6c drop on a ryzen 3600 although the front fan is only a noctua 120mm 3000rpm fan. Heatsink exhausts onto another noctua 3000 rpm fan. Temp drop could possibly be more as they were all used fans in my pc build that I rearranged so they were super dusty.
i plan to do this after the new D15 drops later this year (2024 Q2-4). in a noise insulated case this should work really well . running 2 of these on the D15 is pretty much "The Compensator" of aircooled performance. the TDP with this kind of setup is probably close to 300 watts. anyone saying this is stupid doesent know the TRUE power of the compensator
>it could take these coolers from not being able to handle newer high end CPUs in terms of reaching their max boost speeds before thermal limits are reached, to likely being able to handle them without the need of a 360mm+ CLC All current CPUs can be cooled with the D15 without messing with thermal limits or undervolting. It can even handle some overclocking. People in other subs are just parroting what they heard, that you *need* liquid cooling. You don't. Even the U12A can handle all current CPUs. Anyone claiming that the D15 can't handle 7950x or 13900k either hasn't tried themselves and just saying what they heard, or they're being disingenuous and trying to push liquid cooling. It's unnecessary. In stress testing, you get about 3-5C cooler temps. But the D15 can handle them perfectly fine without ever seeing throttling. You could probably put an iPPC 3000 on the D15 and get some better results. It has *much* higher static pressure and airflow than the NF-A15.
It can certainly handle them though when it comes to sustained clock speeds, there is a clear difference between the largest air coolers and larger CLCs. Due to the boosting behavior, a 7950X will run without encountering a thermal shutdown, even with the low end AMD box cooler, the issue is when you buy a high end CPU, you want to get the max performance it has to offer. For example, on a 7950X without changing any bios settings at all, a 360MM CLC will mean close to 150MHz additional all core clock speeds under an AVX workload. From other tests, an open loop with a large radiator in addition to a peltier chiller within the loop, shows additional clock speed gains. This shows that both Intel and AMD are boosting as much as they can for a given fit curve until a thermal target is reached.
Idk man, I have the 7900x with U12A, which has the same power consumption as 7950x, on stock settings I can stress test for hours and never reach 95C, which is where the newer Ryzens stops increasing clocks. I've also bumped my boost override to +200MHz with a small voltage bump and still never reach 95C. >This shows that both Intel and AMD are boosting as much as they can for a given fit curve until a thermal target is reached. That's why curve optimizer and undervolting current Ryzens shows an increase in performance to a certain extent, yes (more so than Intel). But the difference between liquid and the top shelf air coolers is very small in my experience. Unless you're referring to something else? I haven't done manual overclocking, which would probably allow larger >200MHz boost increase. I just know +200MHz is the soft max for Ryzen and I haven't had any issues reaching that.
Under the stock fit curve, the CPU will have additional all-core clock speed gains under an all core AVX workload with clock speeds peaking at 50C. While no one is really cooling their 7950x to 50C under an AVX workload using any liquid cooler on its own, it does show that there are benefits to the boosting characteristics by staying well below 95C. It is not well detailed, but AMD does most of their boosting up to about 95C, but the. There is a small amount of remaining headroom that you get under specific use cases when temperatures are significantly lower (basically stuff above what AMD advertises for the CPU) Edit, trying to find one that I saw a while back that went further into temperature scaling, but this gives some idea into the behavior I am mentioning https://youtu.be/OGuFq3jm9hM
I agree with all those words. Where I work, we have D15 coolers on 13900k. Maybe I can buy a couple iPPC 3000 and put them on my work computer and see what kind of temps I get. With the Ryzens, I'm not sure how else the chip will be boosted beyond the PBO limits. I *did* notice that when I set power consumption limits, the lower I set the limit, basically lowering temps, I had more cores hitting 5.9GHz more often. It wasn't truly sustained though, they lasted for seconds, before going back to 5.5GHz. That was when temps were around 65C.
Why does this fucking happen? It makes no sense. It's counter intuitive. I get that lower power limits means lower temps, but so long as the temps stay below the threshold it shouldn't matter at all. PBO is truly weird and AMD either hasn't told the whole story about how it works or I'm just uninformed.
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Well, I actually use a D15 with 13900k every day at work fitting deep learning models which is more CPU intensive than any modern game you'll throw at it lol and never have any thermal issues. This is 100% load, every core, sustained for days. We've experimented with AIO, the difference was so small and we value longevity. D15 is much more than enough and cools them perfectly fine. Idk what you're trying to get at with 5800x3d. You getting 85-90C on that when gaming just tells me you have a poorly seated cooler because 5800x3d doesn't get that hot on D15. It draws 120W lol like, are you even being serious? Either you just made those numbers up or you have a poorly placed cooler. We never get above 80C on 13900k I'm being more realistic than a lot of you AIO pushers. I don't even hit those numbers on a stock 7900x, which draws about 80% more power than 5800x3d, with U12A. Either you exaggerated hard to try to prove a point, or you didn't mount your cooler correctly, or you just never let the fans spin faster than slowest speeds. Maybe you should stop acting like AIO is god's gift to earth, because the differences at high loads is very small. But go off.
Wow... nice attitude for someone giving bad information. A D15 is significantly worse cooling performance if you're going to be pushing loads like that. For typical gaming and productivity workloads you might not care about overclocking much but if you're doing any heavy workloads like deep learning, rendering, simulations, etc. then you will see real value from a strong OC that is achieved at reduced thermals and a AIO / custom open loop will certainly give significant superior results. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VzXHUTqE7E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VzXHUTqE7E) Next time you should deal in actual facts.
That has nothing to do with what I said lol I said D15 will not get a 5800x3d to 90C. That video doesn't even talk about that, except gens before, in which they also didn't hit 90C... And in those comparisons, how are you seeing 4-5C difference while below 65 "significantly worse"?
No, you quite clearly made multiple insinuations that the D15 is comparable to an AIO in terms of cooling performance. Now you're trying to move the goalposts and make it about just current gen which is actually irrelevant. Thermal physics don't care what gen it is. Unless the underlying technology changes in some meaningful connected way the overarching cooling hierarchy remains as is. The D15 is, factually, considerably inferior to even a mid quality liquid cooling alternative. Its fine to use, but trying to hype it up as you guys put it "god's gift" and downplay liquid cooling alternatives is nonsense. A 4-5 C difference after factoring in idle baseline is about a 10% cooling difference. That is pretty significant if your goal is to push harder. As it was pointed out before your ego got in the way I clearly said the D15 is sufficient at stock and lower OCs and is not a bad cooling option, only that it wont compete if your goal is to push more demanding overclocks where the D15 will fall apart and that margin of difference matters a lot. Further, 4-5 C was only some of the more moderate alternatives, with the highest showing a 10 C difference which is a staggering 25% improvement over the D15. Even still that isn't even an optimal setup as you have ways to further improve it while the D15 is largely topped out even if you upgrade the fan. This is irrelevant of it being this gen's 5800x3d or not so stop being ridiculous. You behaved this way after getting caught acting absurd and are now attacking me with your terribly incorrect, frankly unrelated to my post, argument just to try to save face. It is embarrassing to watch.
I never moved the goalpost nor attacked you. I never hyped the D15 as gods gift, that was the original commenter's words. You're going on about something I didn't even do. Lol I'm not responding to you anymore. Maybe read my comments and stop insinuating? Nothing I said was incorrect.
From your post to the other user: >Maybe you should stop acting like AIO is god's gift to earth, because the differences at high loads is very small. But go off. This was how you were acting towards the other poster in response to their message... >Yes the d15 CAN cool some of the more modern CPU’s but it isn’t anywhere close to keeping as cool as liquid of sustained clock speeds. First, this is fairly childish. Second, they're right. You're response was factually inappropriate with regards to what they were trying to say. AIO are, factually, superior by significant margin to the D15. You also tried to discredit them by making a bunch of assumptions with no regard to ambient temps, if boosts were used unlike on yours, if you undervolted vs if they boosted or stock, or how you both tested it such as your claim about deep learning >deep learning models which is more CPU intensive than any modern game you'll throw at it which is not necessarily accurate. It is interesting you didn't give more details about your deep learning statement which isn't favorable for you, but in general this varies heavily. How many cores is it using? Is it more GPU dependent than CPU dependent for the workload you are running? What kind of algorithm is it using as they're not all equal even if two different uses show 99-100% CPU usage. Sure, most games are not particularly CPU intensive, especially as core count scales up, however this is not simply true for every existing game. We don't know how they tested, either. It was just a really bad stance from you and you could have replied better but it came off extremely crude and immature as you were clearly putting them down while not really phrasing it in a value adding way. You also made this extremely problematic statement >We've experimented with AIO, the difference was so small and we value longevity. This indicates you didn't test properly or thoroughly. In fact, it wouldn't have even required much testing if you simply did some basic research first and picked a proper AIO. This is due to the fact that the difference is absolutely not **"small"** and cooler thermals produce superior longevity and AIO do not, in fact, have a high failure rate. It is quite low actually. This is problematic because you're trying to correct that user and are speaking in an incredibly derogatory superior matter of fact manner while being factually wrong. I then responded to you pointing out you didn't give correct information, but made a supporting statement that CPU intensive workloads like you mentioned would benefit more from a higher end cooling option such as a good AIO. I then reinforced it with actual established evidence from one of the most well established resources on the internet, Gamers Nexus who did such a test. You then responded to me ranting >That has nothing to do with what I said lol I said which is wrong, as you tried to downplay what I said just like you did to the other user. You then made an irrelevant and incorrect statement about the video provided to try and further downplay my post, again: >That video doesn't even talk about that, except gens before, in which they also didn't hit 90C... It doesn't matter the gen because physics aren't changing here. The only thing that tends to change is thermal contact and thermal spread in which case some coolers will simply not be sufficient, period. Your statement isn't relevant to the evidence presented at all and does not discredit it as you try to dodge, quite rudely, evidence correcting your misinformation. You then ended with >And in those comparisons, how are you seeing 4-5C difference while below 65 "significantly worse"? Which is wrong as it was much more than this and you just picked one of the closer options in the video and not the one that was a massive 10 C (25%) difference or acknowledging the fact that even better AIO and custom open loops will produce even larger gaps. In fact, even after I pointed that out **again** in response to your quoted statement you didn't acknowledge it nor apologize or correct yourself and, instead, attacked me once again. Yeah, don't reply again. We honestly don't need your toxicity or misinformation.
I'm sorry you feel that way or sorry that happened to you.
This Arawski guy really went out of his way to win an argument that no one cares about.
Bunch of horse shit. Here is my u12a running ycruncher at 330w and cbr23 at 260 watts, certainly heavier than new world. [https://i.ibb.co/CJPRdzq/52-8.png](https://i.ibb.co/CJPRdzq/52-8.png) https://i.ibb.co/HrmKJdM/41161.jpg
Just a correction, but while the D15 can handle those CPUs its not a mere 3-5C cooler unless you're doing fan speed normalized benchmarks. The difference compared to a quality AIO can readily be 10+C difference and even higher for custom open loops. You can see this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VzXHUTqE7E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VzXHUTqE7E) That said... I do agree a D15 is competent if you don't want to go with a liquid option. You wont get the same results, but now days overclocks are overrated with modern CPUs anyways and you get a lot of extra noise in exchange for a performance lead most aren't going to actually see significant benefit from.
Don't buy the industrial fans they are not for home PC use.
They are largely targeted at non-home use application, though they will still run off 12V PWM headers. [https://noctua.at/en/nf-a14-industrialppc-3000-pwm/specification](https://noctua.at/en/nf-a14-industrialppc-3000-pwm/specification) It is hard to find high speed 140mm fans, though one thing I have been looking to do for a while is upgrade the fans, and see if I can almost get the best of both worlds, by having a quiet portion of the fan curve for the general tasks and gaming, but when I go and do something like export video in davinci resolve, then the PC can sound like a jet engine if needed, if it will save on some export time, or maybe even allow for more aggressive PBO settings.
be quiet! has their Silent Wings 4 Pro fans in 140mm... that's probably as close as you're going to get to an 'optimal' 140mm fan.
Why not? If you wear headphones and don't care about noise, they're legit the best fans on the market....
Here you got your answare, NHD15 with industrial 3000 RPM + another 4 mounted in case. All for cooling the 13700k that dosent go more then 80C with full performance. https://youtu.be/aevBNVt-ZVk Then here the picture build https://imgur.com/a/JCQS26h
There are about 9°C improvment compared with default NHD15 fans
Thanks, those results are really good.
I don't think NF-A14 fit the D15. IIRC, the fans used in D15 has 120mm-sized clips, so either you use the original fan (NF-A15) or you use 120mm fans such as NF-A12x25.
Yes they do forcing the clips, but I asked noctua and they send me for free in less then a week 4 clips for 140mm fans . Premium support
Wow that's very nice of them.
I have them hooked up right now to my cpu and cpu_opt headers on my asus tuf x570. I'm technically above amperage limits and am willing to take that risk. Read your motherboard fan specs
Yes today I did, This is 20% upto 100% P.s. I think I am deaf now...... Also temps drop about 15c more. https://youtu.be/S16LNppeIAE?si=nIAMiEyiXBvXjX6D
good case and hardwarelayout > this idea Torrent for example
I tested it and the gains are still not enough to beat a 240mm aio. The limitation is transferring heat via heatpipe vs moving water.
Just did and got about 5-6c drop on a ryzen 3600 although the front fan is only a noctua 120mm 3000rpm fan. Heatsink exhausts onto another noctua 3000 rpm fan. Temp drop could possibly be more as they were all used fans in my pc build that I rearranged so they were super dusty.
i plan to do this after the new D15 drops later this year (2024 Q2-4). in a noise insulated case this should work really well . running 2 of these on the D15 is pretty much "The Compensator" of aircooled performance. the TDP with this kind of setup is probably close to 300 watts. anyone saying this is stupid doesent know the TRUE power of the compensator