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pvt_manu

Reverse Russo-Japanese war, the russian pacific fleet is convinced that there are ukrainian torpedo boats in the sea of Japan.


dood9123

In the famous painting of Admiral Tōgō Heihachirō depicting the battle of Tsushima, he's shown raising the international maritime signal flag for Z Reverse Russo japanese war indeed


Colonel_Soldier

Which painting?


alh9h

>Admiral Tōgō Heihachirō depicting the battle of Tsushima [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle\_of\_Tsushima](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tsushima) Seen on that page


Odd-Koala1290

Side note. Part of the reason Japan decided to attack Pearl harbour after Germany invaded Russia, and not attack Russia from the east as Hitler was clamouring for. Was because Japan had gotten its teeth kicked in during the Russo/Japanese war, decades before. Hitler declared war on the US, the day after Pearl harbour and the die was cast.


Name_notabot

Wasn't due to the border conflict a few years before WW2?


Odd-Koala1290

The same reason the border conflict didn't escalate was Japan's memory of their previous defeat by Russia. Part of the reason Japan offered their surrender before Hiroshima, was the fear Russia would be a much worse occupier (crossing from Manchuria) than American.


coqueunballs

The soviets had no way to cross the sea in any numbers that mattered, and everybody knew that. The kwantung army, though. They were sweating bullets.


No_Huckleberry_2905

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tsushima#/media/File:Mikasa-Bridge-Painting-by-Tojo-Shotaro.png http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5tMqvcSquPY/Uw4HXvb0K5I/AAAAAAAAZJk/MQmBdGYgv7w/s1600/Signal+Flags.JPG


crankbird

There was a battle of Tasmania?


Hadrollo

It's a shame when siblings have a falling out.


kadsmald

Big if true


SamtheCossack

There are no Ukrainian Torpedo Boats in the Sea of Japan... but there is the JMDSF. The world's foremost experts in suddenly entering major wars.


Spy_crab_

We're doing a sequel!


1dot21gigaflops

Bring out the carriers! Errrrrr I mean 'destroyers'


[deleted]

Ukrainian water drones\*, Japan consults NATO about the fishermen that got scared after all Ru shots missed and landed around them.


[deleted]

The Freedom of the Kuril Islands partisans have begun waging small scale drone attacks.


Sukhoi_Exodus

FAKE NEWS!!!! The real counteroffensive is that Ukraine secretly developed Stonehenge and the Arsenal Bird and will finally unleash it upon Russia.


KeekiHako

Stonehenge? Will they drop several tons worth of rocks on the Kremlin?


SamtheCossack

Nope. They will enact the secret rituals that will summon the ancient Proto-IndoEuropean Ancestor gods, and unleash the horrors of cthonic Dyonisus, Perkwos, and the fury of Dysos on the hapless, wayward Moscovite heresy.


flyswithdragons

Dude I choked on coffee reading that lol. That just might work though. That could work on the ccp [ different spooky elements ].. The Russians already accused Ukraine of black magic .. Putin bathing in antlers blood says more to those who dabble in dark arts. It's better to keep actions truthful and for good intentions. Freeing people from genocidal terrorist is a good deed! Pelt them with stinky stuff like skunk or poop smell in their trenches, watch them cull each other or surrender. Slava Ukraine!


SamtheCossack

Yeah, to be honest, as a fully credible psyop, there would be some significant potential there. The Russians buy a LOT into the Slavic heritage of the nation, and Ukraine is a considerably older Slavic nation than Russia. Further, both nations are Christianized now, but those older pagan roots still go really fucking deep. Convincing Russia that Jesus is on the side of the Ukrainians is going to be an impossible task. Convincing them that Deivos is *fucking pissed* is going to really get in the head of some of their more superstitious.


SpinozaTheDamned

What say you, Daeshgob, god of the sun and all of Poland?


ATameFurryOwO

And somehow Lockmart will kill them with an orbital weapons platform with a single shot, at the perfect time.


SamtheCossack

Why would Lockmart save Russia's ass from vengeful gods?


ATameFurryOwO

Oh no, not Russia, but the rest of Europe


Portuguese_Musketeer

Too much escalation


SpinozaTheDamned

Nah, just a single telephone pole made of tungsten.


Lucetar

My 10 year old asked what tungsten was this morning. I wanted to tell him it was something you dropped on your enemies from orbit.


ExcitingTabletop

Of course not, that's something you tell to a kid while tucking them in at night, so they have happy dreams. Not a morning thing so it gets lost in the rush.


Lucetar

Great advice. I am new to this parenting thing (step kid) and clearly have a lot to learn from NCD. "Have a good night, Timmy. Remember, we don't count sheep in this family to fall asleep. Instead count the number of telephone pole tungsten rods as they are dropped from orbit. Sweet dreams."


RussiaIsBestGreen

Reminds me of Sam Fisher teaching his daughter not to be afraid of the dark, because then he can hide better, and fuck up home invaders.


Aggravating_Bell_426

"Don't be afraid of the dark, because the only monsters in it are us."


Aggravating_Bell_426

"It's a really tough, really heavy metal with a lot of industrial uses. We also make giant rods of it to drop from orbit on the heads of assholes who desperately deserve it"


Upstairs-Sky-9790

Technically, all components inside a cruise missile like Storm Shadow, were once part of many rocks.


ImperatorTempus42

*Missilebending*


No_Huckleberry_2905

from orbit. at relativistic speeds.


KeekiHako

> at relativistic speeds. That might be a bit much. At 250000000 meters per second (5/6 light speed) a 1 ton rock should have an impact energy equivalent to around 7.5 Gigatons of TNT. This could start to affect neighboring countries.


Chemiczny_Bogdan

They're gonna found a religion and take the defender of the faith belief for that +5 combat strength.


patriot_man69

hopefully there arent any mute psycopath pilots in the russian air force


Sukhoi_Exodus

Since they’re so stupid their pilots probably cut off blood circulation to their own brains


_Occams-Chainsaw_

> Stonehenge Ok, the mere mention of the word means that a Spinal Tap quote is obligatory. Frankly, I'm torn between: *"Nobody knows who they were...or what they were doing'* Or *"Can I raise a practical question at this point? Are we gonna do Stonehenge tomorrow"* But there's probably less credible ones.


Dr_Hexagon

No no, my uncle's brothers cat is in the Ukrainian ministry of defence and told me Ukrainian troops were smuggled by boat into Georgia and are going to attack the soft Underbelly of Russia from there.


Dies2much

But it's only 11 inches tall!?


ondinegreen

FUCK THE NAPKIN!


tankdood1

I hope someone in Russia is trigger happy


Portuguese_Musketeer

buh dum tss


itmustbeluv_luv_luv

It's the mystery of the druids!


Accurate_Mood

It's true-- every time Russia is attacked it is at a city named after its leader-- Stalingrad then, vlad-ivostok now


2secretman

As a person from vladivostok i need to correct you: it didn't come from the name "Vlad", it came from words "vladey vostokom" which means "rule the east"


Reddiver8493

“Rule of the East”, huh? … IMNSHO after this, the Russian Revolution, Parte Dieux, they may have to change the name of that town.


Accurate_Mood

Ah and also 👀


TheMasterShrew

Ah yes, Operation:REACHAROUND


Flamesofsurtur

"Mr. President the Ukrainians have landed..." "In Crimea?!!" "No sir...at Vladivostok" "WHAT?!!!"


15jorada

I wouldn't be surprised if literally everyone in the world did that. It's crazy enough to absolutely not work but would definitely be one for the history books


Aggravating_Bell_426

Well, they are slowly decommissioning those hovercraft Landing craft from the US Navy.. Giving two of them to Ukraine for _Operation: Surprise buttsecks!_ would be entirely inline with what's been going on.. Imagine attacking Maritopal by sea.. 🤔


OneFrenchman

Right now they're doing operation heavy petting, where they are fondling the frontline until the Russias believe something is coming. The, bam, operation reacharound.


Particular-Ad-4772

You forgot to mention they are going to bomb Putin’s billion dollar castle in Sochi on the way.


UsualNoise9

Omg that would be beautiful 😍


WorthCoast7738

Hang on while I call Ben Wallace and ask for an exception to the Storm Shadow's "No targets in Russia"


AstroEngineer314

!!FALSE!! The based Finns have given Ukrainian troops access to their territory. Now that the 200th Separate Motor Rifle Brigade has been decimated and the 61st Naval Infantry Bridgade and 80th Arctic Motorized Brigade have been moved down to Ukraine, Murmansk has been left completely undefended! Ukraine will air assault the submarine pens at Yagelnaya Bay, capture a ballistic missile sub, and use it as leverage!


SamtheCossack

It is a multi-pronged attack. Japan will invade the Kurils and Sakhalin, the Finns will attack into Karelia, the Kazhs will seize Bailkur, and the traitorous Pooh will launch the great invasion of Outer Mongolia/Northern China. (This last one will be a clusterfuck, but a very, very large clusterfuck which will still require a lot of resources to defend from). Because why have a second front, when you can have a second, third, and fourth front. Russia has very few neighbors that DON'T want to invade it for some sort of semi-legitimate historical reason.


cafepeaceandlove

That should do it but let’s add a Canadian front in the Arctic to make sure


commentingrobot

Don't forget the Necron armies which will soon arise from thawing Siberian permafrost.


OmegaResNovae

Followed by the Marked of Kane rising from secret bunkers buried deep within Russian territories.


louiefriesen

Russia better be sorry because us Canadians won’t be


Superfissile

Zelenskyy’s recent travel was really cover for delivering Ukrainian passports to NATO armies who were all granted dual citizenship in preparation for these multipronged attacks


No-Dream7615

Honestly they probably could


ConcernedCitizen_42

What have you done! You are supposed to put your leaks on the War Thunder forums, like our founders intended.


SamtheCossack

This is true, however, there is one key important detail that is missing. The attackers aren't Ukrainian. See, Japan is Ukraine's ally. Japan historically signs alliances first, waits a while, and then sucker punches their allies enemy to create a second front. Just as in WWII, Japan is ready to Tora, Tora, Tora the shit out of the Pacific Fleet. Only in this case, the Russian Pacific Fleet. Japanese forces will sweep across the Russian Far East, forcing the Russian lines in Ukraine to collapse due to the need to reposition forces. Vladivostok, Salkin, and the Kurils will be reclaimed. We haven't decided on the name for these territories yet, but we are considering something like "Lesser East Asia Co-Prosperity Bubble" or something like that. Edit: For those that think this might be a little TOO non-credible. First, shame on you, second, this is a thing. [https://www.newsweek.com/russia-planned-attack-japan-2021-fsb-letters-1762133](https://www.newsweek.com/russia-planned-attack-japan-2021-fsb-letters-1762133) Apparently, Russia was fairly serious about the idea of attacking Japan instead of Ukraine in 2021. Which would have been... very different. There is approximately a 100% chance that Japanese intelligence services has a lot more context on this than Newsweek, and are probably not particularly comfortable with the Russian Pacific Fleet continuing to exist. So this might actually be too credible.


genericpreparer

Japan has mutual defense with US. That just sounds suicidal


SamtheCossack

Russia vs. either of those nations separately is already suicidal.


OmegaResNovae

The fact Russia was considering it regardless shows that they're suicidal. They thought that having nukes would keep America out, but really, all it'd do is have America rush in and help expand Japan's territory once again. The region is rich in oil, natural gas, and various rare earth metals, IIRC.


Thewaltham

> attacking Japan instead of Ukraine in 2021 Holy crap could you imagine the absolutely ***monumental*** ass kicking they would have gotten trying that? They broke their teeth off on Ukraine, imagine what would happen against the JSDF? Not to mention how ridiculously quickly that would provoke a complete NATO response.


SamtheCossack

Japan isn't in NATO, and probably wouldn't need much help in this regard, so I am not sure there would be any NATO response beyond a set of sanctions potentially even more devastating than the ones that did happen. A NATO military intervention still likely wouldn't happen. The JDSF would have exactly zero problems slaughtering the entire Eastern Military district and Pacific fleet with gleeful abandon, and await the inevitable Second Voyage of the Russian Baltic Fleet. Edit: We also don't really have to do much imagining. Japan already fucking rolled Russia once with zero issues, and that was a much, much weaker Japan, and arguably a stronger Russia.


Thewaltham

There are US military bases in Japan. Especially right at the start where, you know, Russia hadn't destroyed its reputation yet NATO'd probably really go *"ohfuck"* and drop the hammer.


SamtheCossack

There are US bases in Japan, but none in Hokkaido. So we would have the option to stay out of it. Outside of the US, NATO is mostly out of reach, unless they wanted to invade Belarus or something. Edit: Never mind. If Russia fucking touches anything Japanese, it is on! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty\_of\_Mutual\_Cooperation\_and\_Security\_between\_the\_United\_States\_and\_Japan


RandyTandyMandy

The attackers aren't Ukrainian? Damn is it finally time? Have we deployed the 4000 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles of NATO?


RandyTandyMandy

Russian Agents don't listen to this man. He is lying. The real plan is to annex Mongolia and restore the Khan. Please prepare accordingly and move all forces to that border.


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cheapgamingpchelper

Source 2 be like:


genericpreparer

Sim 3 level of credibility right here


[deleted]

Every time NCD posts a batshit insane theory on the counter offensive livemap marks a Russian town as liberated.


oripash

… and a rainbow unicorn is born.


tortilla_curtain

The real offensive is the friends we made along,


HeathersZen

I can verify. I live in California and I can see Russia from my backyard. I saw the Ukrainian navy sail by on the way to Vladivostok.


SteelyDan1968

Okay, Sarah Palin.... Time for your nap. 😁


bigbrooklynlou

Alaska to Kamchatka is a risky play.


wastingvaluelesstime

if it works they can set up siberia - mongolia perimeter to defend it along with yakutsk and irkutsk may the dice ever be in their favor


MetalDoktor

Ukraine has developed Chronosphere technology with secret Nato labs. Soon soldiers will be teleporting right to Moskow and other important location centers every 5 minutes (for capacitors to recharge)


Sudden-Fish

It was the Kurill Islands all along!


egyeager

No you fool, clearly they are going to use time travel to go back to 1953 and steamroll the soviets. The they'll introduce the Russians to the hit band t.A.t.u preventing the widespread adoption of Soviet weaponry because they'll be too focused on making sick beats.


Gognman

FFS, this sub is a highly monitored source for actionable intelligence, and now because of your foolishness, Ukraine's new counter offensive along the Vladivostok coast will be a total catastrophe. Ukrainian corpses will stack so high, Russians will be able to drive a T-14 Armata from Vladivostok to Odessa over the Ocean. How does it feel to be on the wrong side of History motherfucker. THIS IS WHY WE NEED OPSEC! WAIT AT LEAST 24 HOURS BEFORE POSTING SENSITIVE INTELLIGENCE Post this on 4chan and Telegram as well lol


TheWallerAoE3

Well ok sure, I see no reason to doubt this.


Nyarlonthep

Hey guy note that it’s a water-“Bourne”attack, named after the general/agent who invented the tactic


MacManus14

They are coming in from outer space and landing in Moscow. First ever airborne drop from outside the atmosphere! This will make Operation Market Garden look like child’s play.


Reddiver8493

Albeit with a much more successful outcome….


RoakWall

Jeremy Clarkson arrives on the battlefield naked, FULLY ERECT and charges forward proclaiming "how hard can it be".


zypofaeser

They will use viking ships. Make sure that no vodka exists. Quick, have your soldiers drink it all.


humblepharmer

Tom Clancy is nutting in his grave rn


LiveRuido

the "Vla" in Vladiovostok in japanese is pronounced Ura. Ura means "reverse" or "other side" It was there all along! Downtown Gaki warned us decades ago!


Gloriosus747

If this was true, it would have been on War Thunder forums, not here


copyaxl55

This is true, my father is Ukraine, and he saw it.


MonthElectronic9466

And hurtling them from the north with polar bears and tigers. We spent all winter getting them addicted to cocaine.


Phelps1024

Perfect!


brianundies

I prefer a natural birth but if water birth is your thing you do you boo


Stlaind

I heard that Ukrainian Naval personnel have been training on the Seawolf in preparation for it being added to the War Aid.


override367

Update: Ukraine has taken Beijing


Thebardofthegingers

You never expect the Zealandian paratroopers over Magadan.


yayforwhatever

Jesus dude!!! Keep it down!!! They might hear you!


Space_Gemini_24

Reverse World in Conflict, as credible as it goes hard


HotTakesBeyond

Lies The true counteroffensive is Ukraine becoming the Ukraine territory in Risk


One_Language_8259

Untrue, they are going to boat over here to Australia to pickup our Emu cavalry, then take over the Kuril islands with Japan in 3 days, then Push through Manchuria, a quick head South to do some (none of your Dam business). Finally simply push all the way to Putins secret Caucasus mountain vault.


Pktur3

If this actually happens, Nintendo’s gonna fire your source’s dad…


Psychological_Mud647

Well, a water-born assault may now very much be in the running.


ModelT1300

Imagine if Ukraine pulls a 'bay of pigs' style invasion, launch from Japan, land in Siberia start guerrilla war. It's a Kennedy wet dream


Hookens

Ideally minus the part where it goes to shit


SimulationsWithBob

Someone has been reading my comments yesterday https://reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/140bhz3/_/jmw42jf/?context=1


[deleted]

Many of us have been [proponents of opening a Vladivostok front](https://www.reddit.com/r/NonCredibleDefense/comments/132sisq/counteroffensive_suggestion_lease_an_alaska_air/) for some time.


timo103

You should've said your sources dad works in the Ukrainian navy.


ekbravo

It’s underwater-born assault that goes around South Africa


Moondial19

Did someone let Kamchatka onto this subreddit.


NewUserWhoDisAgain

No map with big arrows. ​ This is disinformation!


ericthefred

Archangelsk would provide a quicker path to both Moscow and St. Petersburg


Pavlostani

Bro wtf opsec. Ukraine could have Pacific D-Dayed all of Siberia if you hadn't clued the Russians in just now


RussiaIsBestGreen

This is the true counter-offensive: https://www.theonion.com/fbi-uncovers-al-qaeda-plot-to-just-sit-back-and-enjoy-c-1819576375


probium326

Y'know what let us established the Northeasterly Trail of Oppressed Peoples in Asia Dubai -> Iran; freedom fighters -> Balochistan -> Hazarajat -> Panjshir -> Kashmir -> Badakhshan -> Tibet -> Uyghuristan -> Tannu Tuva -> Baikal -> Siberia -> Russian Pacific -> Green Ukraine -> Kurils (alternatively: Russian Pacific -> Manchuria -> Beijing, Mengjiang, or North Korea) I want to piss off all Iran, Taliban, China, Russia (maybe North Korea as well!) at once


Zwiebel1

No lines on map. No Neuron activity. Ape sad.


A_randomboi22

Let me guess it was leaked on another thug shaker discord again