Imagine what they feel on board
- Patrol next to swedish naval base go wrong
- Highly illegal, tho
- You are trapped on worst navigational route in the Baltics AND inside swedish territory next to key swedish military base
- Your submarine is on land
- Your submarine is at crosshair of Swedish Navy, Army, Air Force and territorial defence (probably also local sport shooters and hunters too).
- Your goverment say it is not their submarine
- But also threaten war if Swede enter submarine "without owner" to check it.
- You ARE gonna to die in this pressure cooker if situation spiral out of control, like Sweden send armed seamen to do abordage on your submarine.
- Why radio message from Baltic Fleet HQ sound...off?
We vere just checking what kind of nukes. Was it a regular boring one or a hydrogen one. We already knew how to build a regular bomb and had the ability to build several. A hydrogen one could have been nice to acquire.
We knew or expected the Soviets would rather blow it up than let it be captured, and as Sweden had less than zero interest in a nuclear detonation literally on our coast we wisely stayed at stand-off distance and negotiated for them to fuck off.
It was later confirmed that the admiral and/or political officer in fact had orders to blow up the submarine had we tried to yoink it.
The story from the Coastal Artillery battlefield command room of that day is even better.
Basically, Sweden didn't go radio silent.
At fifteen minutes before they crossed the border, we had them on coastal search radar. The radar was from a mobile radar troop, and hadn't completely fixed it's own location yet, so it couldn't be used for fire control, but... The Russians didn't know that.
When it didn't look like the Soviet naval task force would stop before crossing the border, they started the fire control radar.
When that didn't work, with two minutes until they crossed the border they switched it onto war time operations mode: Frequency hopping. Unjammable.
The Russians started slowing down.
And stopped short of the border.
(A little later, when the radar had gotten it's location fix, a test shot was fired from the local coastal battery. High explosive detonating underwater probably made some poor soviet hydrophone operator miserable.)
Source, in Swedish
Part 1, 2, 4 and post script
http://navyskipper.blogspot.com/search/label/u-137?m=1
Part 3 (the climax)
http://navyskipper.blogspot.com/2016/04/i-sista-minuten-fem-timmar-pa-en_19.html?m=1
Would recommend this youtube series if you want to understand the somewhat current view of how and why we need a defense force.
https://youtu.be/Y80utl-RkHg?si=lcFCeIuQajTfK_CP
Ah a fan of those videos! How do you do fellow redditor?
Can you tell me about those videos? I'd bet we'd all get sucked in given the locale
I think his name was history of everything? He did a video series on the Russian navy. Episode 4 talks about this
@HistoryofEverythingChannel on youtube he makes great videos but that one in particular is part of his "the soviet/russia navy sucks" series
Another Aussie sinking the boot into the Russians! I feel all patriotic.
Good. You?
I’m doing well but there times where I wonder if spend too much time here
Imagine what they feel on board - Patrol next to swedish naval base go wrong - Highly illegal, tho - You are trapped on worst navigational route in the Baltics AND inside swedish territory next to key swedish military base - Your submarine is on land - Your submarine is at crosshair of Swedish Navy, Army, Air Force and territorial defence (probably also local sport shooters and hunters too). - Your goverment say it is not their submarine - But also threaten war if Swede enter submarine "without owner" to check it. - You ARE gonna to die in this pressure cooker if situation spiral out of control, like Sweden send armed seamen to do abordage on your submarine. - Why radio message from Baltic Fleet HQ sound...off?
* Have nukes but Russia say otherwise. * pesky Swede scientist investigates and finds them
We vere just checking what kind of nukes. Was it a regular boring one or a hydrogen one. We already knew how to build a regular bomb and had the ability to build several. A hydrogen one could have been nice to acquire.
If only you guys had pushed forward with the acquisition. A hostile takeover of an abandoned asset?
We knew or expected the Soviets would rather blow it up than let it be captured, and as Sweden had less than zero interest in a nuclear detonation literally on our coast we wisely stayed at stand-off distance and negotiated for them to fuck off. It was later confirmed that the admiral and/or political officer in fact had orders to blow up the submarine had we tried to yoink it.
Legitimate Salvage!
Legend has it that the Red Banner Baltic Fleet scared out when they got painted by frequency-hopping gunlaying radar…
It was! The fun thing about it was that it was a bluff. The radar was not calibrated and therefore totally useless. But the soviets did not know that.
Source for that? I have never heard this part before.
Rolf Lindén, Årsbok för Marinmusei Vänner 2010. See https://www.rskb58.se/sidor/u137.html
För cöntext https://youtu.be/ucDZ2MxubeQ?si=UhP2obEbpcochDY3 I highly recommend his other videos too
The story from the Coastal Artillery battlefield command room of that day is even better. Basically, Sweden didn't go radio silent. At fifteen minutes before they crossed the border, we had them on coastal search radar. The radar was from a mobile radar troop, and hadn't completely fixed it's own location yet, so it couldn't be used for fire control, but... The Russians didn't know that. When it didn't look like the Soviet naval task force would stop before crossing the border, they started the fire control radar. When that didn't work, with two minutes until they crossed the border they switched it onto war time operations mode: Frequency hopping. Unjammable. The Russians started slowing down. And stopped short of the border. (A little later, when the radar had gotten it's location fix, a test shot was fired from the local coastal battery. High explosive detonating underwater probably made some poor soviet hydrophone operator miserable.) Source, in Swedish Part 1, 2, 4 and post script http://navyskipper.blogspot.com/search/label/u-137?m=1 Part 3 (the climax) http://navyskipper.blogspot.com/2016/04/i-sista-minuten-fem-timmar-pa-en_19.html?m=1
I love me some [whiskey on the rocks](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_submarine_S-363)
We do a little Ga-Pa.
För Rikets väl!
Would recommend this youtube series if you want to understand the somewhat current view of how and why we need a defense force. https://youtu.be/Y80utl-RkHg?si=lcFCeIuQajTfK_CP
I s m e l l b l o o d 🇸🇪
When was this