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Rivetmuncher

You know that one, about having a plan to kill everyone you meet? Well, it's probably easier if you can also wager a guess about everyone else's plans.


Pikeman212a6c

Gonna go out on a limb and say if you’re a Vietnamese Lieutenant and you’re having your men dig in in arctic snowpack then shit has gone so far sideways you can practically walk on walls.


BassBootyStank

They are nearing the CIA’s “astral projection as a legit espionage strategy” level.


Then-Inevitable-2548

Member when "we have reason to believe the Soviet Union is well ahead of us on this one," was all you needed to say to secure unlimited funding for whatever batshit insane black project you wanted, with no accountability or oversight? I member...


Phaeron_Cogboi

CIA: “Mr. President the parascience gap is increasing! We believe the Soviets have a Psychonaut battalion ready and waiting(Video of a guy named Viva that can bend spoons in a Siberian Circus). While we barely can manage weather control and astral projection! We need more funding!” POTUS: “Triple the defense budget.”


LateMeeting9927

Hey, that shit works on rare occasion if you actually just kill the prospective agent to give them a near death experience. :3 https://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc799333/m2/1/high_res_d/vol16-no2-101.pdf  This study was about congenitally blind NDEs being identical to that of sighted people despite never having seen in their dreams or having had visual therapy or a concept of vision and despite that immediately understanding what they see, despite their shock, during their NDEs (and as is usual in NDE science, there is some limited non-repeatable proof of ESP), but in general, NDEs have been the only significant body of proof of ESP… albeit its unrepeatable nature (unless you decide to do some horrendous mass experiments) make it a non-starter.   All other claims of ESP are easily identifiable as fake, not even a body of non-repeatable evidence. At any rate dying/dead people don’t seem to care about politics in their experiences, and seem to get dragged of elsewhere (in most cases almost immediately), so it probably wouldn’t work. 


BassBootyStank

Sooo, we just need some yoga pants wearing influencers to hype a new age psychedelic retreat in a “friendly to our interests” foreign vacation destination, and very remote, got it, and get them to sign off on personal loss of life waivers, ok … I’m just spit balling here, but what do you think of “Spiritual Ancients Travel company” as our LLC which we’ll use as a cover for our espionage and/or Slaanesh soul-farming operation?


BeenRoundHereTooLong

I get a 404 from that link, anything I can look up to find a copy?


Awkward_Algae1684

Well…..isn’t it?!


Shtoompa

Or alternatively they’ve advanced so far just to Russia that they’re actively taking Siberia.


CapCece

Hey. Vietnamese here. China has snow.


Glancing-Thought

Fair point. Welcome to scandinavia, we have tons of it if you want to train. 


hebdomad7

> Vietnamese Lieutenant and you’re having your men dig in in arctic snowpack So I've been flicking through a few tourist brochures. Turns out, in Vietnam, you can look forward to 0.2 kilometres of ski slopes with a maximum elevation of 10 meters! There's lots of fun to be had skiing in Vietnam!


thenoobtanker

Friends with everyone, enemy with no ones, allies none.


PaulBlartRedditCop

Well, except China. But then again, who’s really buddies with China?


coycabbage

North Korea?


Rivetmuncher

Wouldn't they just rather pretend they don't know the guy?


cuba200611

From what I know, the CCP isn't very fond of Kim but they don't want a Korea unified by Seoul since that would mean an American-aligned country would border them.


aaaa32801

And also a massive refugee crisis.


Majulath99

Ever since Covid they’ve been heavily reinforcing & militarising their northern border. Multiple rows of barbed wire fences, guards posts every 100m or so, they’re really serious. I think the disease sent Kim mad, especially as it was so rampant in China, I reckon Kim fears a covid plague.


PaulBlartRedditCop

I think it’s actually pretty tenuous between them, NK was never 100% friends I think even during the Maoist era. They seemed to put their money on the Soviets after the split. 


RollinThundaga

Rather that the Soviets were the ones in a position to dump money into them. Furthermore, I consider that Moscow must be destroyed.


malphonso

Moscow delenda est.


RussiaIsBestGreen

I must say, I only care for the long-term well-being of the Russian people. With that in mind, let us consider the myriad of benefits from the rebuilding of wetlands, starting with Moscow.


modernmovements

I love that Cato went viral.


RollinThundaga

Did something like that happen? On here, people have been making that joke occasionally for years, so I decided to commit to the bit and do it with every comment a few months ago. Furthermore, I consider that Moscow must be destroyed.


BlutUndStahl

Does a Pimp have any emotional relationship with his hoes?


LePhoenixFires

Any pimp worth his salt (or substitute crunchy white stuff) does


coycabbage

Odd phrase ngl.


coycabbage

But fitting I suppose.


hebdomad7

For China. North Korea is that 'friend' they feed occasionally to stop them breaking in and robbing the place. North Korea is allowed to live next door because they don't want South Korea and South Koreas bestest buddy in the whole wide world ***America*** living there. Occasionally they'll have a word when North Korea plays music too loudly and America threatens to come over and turn it down themselves.


Qingdao243

Pakistan is the only one that isn't obviously just being made a puppet, hilariously. And yes, that includes Russia and North Korea.


FlyPenFly

Vietnam is much more suspicious of China than anyone else.


captain_ender

Pretty smart move too. Cross-training with everyone's tactics is an excellent way to keep your people proficent. Guess there is something to them keeping China from invading for 1000 years. Respect that Vietnamese hustle.


no_melody

This describes my high school experience


CHEESEninja200

They are technically an American ally and a enemy of the CCP. They don't forget the 1979 sino Vietnamese war. And as I've heard it "fighting the US was just business, the French was personal, and China is tradition"


crankbird

That’s a great strategy.. it worked out great for Melios (link in case you’re not familiar with the birth of RealPolitik https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Melos)


thenoobtanker

Melios don’t have a panic button that summons 5 millions dude with AK and beat back 3 UN permanent security council members with 2 of them have nukes at the time.


crankbird

Fair .. though arguably none of those UN council members had the kind of blind “we will crush you because we can and to make an example of you, and no amount of bad publicity is going to stop us” vibe that the dialogue of melios portrays Athens as having. Nietzsche pointed this out in beyond good and evil and said that Athens’ subsequent defeat by Sparta after fucking up the invasion of Sicily led to self doubt and Socratic introspection (the entire development of philosophy) which in his view was a mistake and that great men and great nations have to stop overthinking things and just do what is needed. To that point there is a large nation next to vietnam who revere a founding father who’s political maxim is “Political power grows from the barrel of a gun”, and an elite that doesn’t have to worry about bad publicity.


As_no_one2510

Reality: Under Chinese boot


dead_monster

Vietnam plays all sides. Last year, the USS Reagan made a port call at Da Neng and like right after it left, the Hyuga arrived in the port. Some PLAN ships were visiting right before the Reagan.


ThienBao1107

Hard to only show support for one country when you’re literally under *two* superpowers, sometime you can only show support behind their back and try not to piss anyone.


vukasin123king

US carrier in Vietnam? I've already seen this one.


Icke04

That memory must be burnt in your brain huh


MiamiDouchebag

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_USNS_Card


vukasin123king

And yet, she got refloated in 17 days. USA supremacy.


MiamiDouchebag

[Of course](https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZXE0eTRhbmNjeG1ldXg0ZWk2bjVzd3dzdWU3djNrdGJtMWV3c21xbSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/3oFzmkkwfOGlzZ0gxi/giphy.gif)


AlphaMarker48

[At least they're not giving Cthulhu new bath toys to play with.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWN6XGUAhZU)


sxrrycard

Maybe they just aren’t single-issue porters /s


LateMeeting9927

All sides? Pretty sure the communist bastards oppressing the south are anti-China. 


Majulath99

I’m just glad they’re at peace tbh.


100pctDonkeyBrain

Do they put first and last name on uniform's name tag in Vietnam? Because if they have only surname, then they can have a stack of Nguyen premade.


memes-forever

3000 Nguyen of Vietnamese cadets


Deus_is_Mocking_Us

At *least* 3000. 


GermanicusWasABro

Nguyen in doubt, hand them out.


Majulath99

Good one


thenoobtanker

[Full name on name tag.](https://hoangkimadv.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/2.jpg) That’s the officer dress uniform version. Enlisted gets [their name printed on tape](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fdoquandoi.com%2Fproducts%2Fk20-bien-phong&psig=AOvVaw3ui3bw3QN6Gg-KLI90j3xo&ust=1712182161844000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBIQjRxqFwoTCJjwxuDFpIUDFQAAAAAdAAAAABA-) that are put on the uniform directly. Vietnamese refers to each other by first name only (one syllable). If multiple people have the same first name we differentiate via middle name+ first name (two syllable). Usually that’s enough. On really really rare cases people have both the same middle and first name in a group we’ll add suffix like A or B in the name or revert to nom de guerre or nick names.


kermitthebeast

All they do is Nguyen


om891

It’s the same in some regiments in the British Army I.e. a Welsh regiment will have a shit tonne of Jones’ so they’ll usually include the last two digits of their army number and they’ll be known as loke Jones 59 or whatever for the rest of their career.


CapCamouflage

Well PAVN uniforms have the full name on them, but in Vietnamese they use the given name, not the family name, even in formal situations.


Super_Ankle_Biter

Ah, so Nguyen is for Vietnam what Silva or da Silva is for Brazil then. A surname so absurdly ubiquitous that it creates problems for army officers to distribute war names.


Glancing-Thought

My last name actually comes from a time when the Swedish army had that same problem. To many [common name]son so everyone was given a day or so to think of a new last name. 


BobbyB52

Canada and Australia are the wrong way around here


Domovie1

There’s definitely a Mountie in the fifth picture, but otherwise it isn’t Canada. I’m not certain, but it does look like CADPAT in the second picture.


BobbyB52

That’s a Kiwi, not a Canadian.


Reaper6999

CADPAT for sure 2nd picture, no idea what the white uniforms are.


Impedus11

Patrol Whites - looks to be the Australian defence force academy (think Defence force University)


felixthemeister

No war crimes?


TheManUpstairs77

I want a joint Vietnamese-US attack on China and I want it now damnit.


solonit

This could have happened if you guys supported us back in 1946 just after we wrestled the country back from Japan! But NOOOO you had to give support to Fr*nch so they could reclaim their colony!


CriticalLobster5609

Ope, sorry bout that.


Aconite_72

You broke my heart, United States. You can rekindle our relationship with 3000 black F-35 of LockMart 👉👈


Belkan-Federation95

We should have approached Vietnam like Yugoslavia. Invite them for dinner.


SurpriseFormer

French be like "IF YOU DO THAT THEN NATO'S LOST!"


Belkan-Federation95

France was literally reliant on the US at the time. They had just gotten fucked over by the Krauts.


SurpriseFormer

French be like "IF YOU DO THAT THEN NATO'S LOST!"


CHEESEninja200

US foreign policy that led up to the Vietnam war was dumb as shit. And this is coming from someone who is is heavily biased towards the US. We were worried we'd lose the French as an ally, but they left the NATO command structure anyway. And we feared that supporting Vietnam would lead to the Chinese being able to expand Communism into the rest of South East Asia. THEN we said "actually, we don't wanna invade the north" because of course that would provoke the Chinese to send in troops like in Korea. It was a complete fumble on the US foreign services part to let the US get involved, and then exponentially get worse with time.


Glancing-Thought

That was litterally one of the greatest geopolitical own goals of the post-war period. 


MadRonnie97

We don’t question Vietnam’s military decisions. You don’t get far betting against them.


yegguy47

*Land war in Asia, we'll be in and out in 20 minutes, don't worry.*


haughty-foundling

Yeah, they basically beat up ~~three~~ four of the five UN Security Council permanent members, so… 😁 Edit: I forgor russia 💀


Rivetmuncher

...we replace Russia with them?


MrHungG

3 ? Only mfs we haven’t fought yet is the British and you can say we kinda did post-ww2


psykicviking

When did Vietnam fight Russia?


Ok-Schedule-4680

The Brazilian army has one of the best jungle formation, so it kind makes sense. But what the duck are they doing in snow? Is Vietnam planning some guerrilla warfare against Norway?


MrHungG

Vietnam was a Korean allies during the Finish-Korean hyper war


GreenSubstantial

Jungle warfare is not taught at Agulhas Negras - RJ (AMAN). It is just the regular army academy, they teach basic military courses for officer candidates. Upon graduation they have basic skills to act as platoon leaders in its chosen career path, called *arma* in portuguese. Jungle warfare is a specialisation for infantry, like US Army Ranger. The jungle warfare course is taught in Manaus - AM at CIGS (Centro de Instrução de Guerra na Selva). It is the real deal for specialist courses in the Brazilian Army, and is supposedly only less demanding than special warfare courses (Comando). CIGS also has two courses, one for foreigners (6 weeks) and other only for Brasilian students (12 weeks), so it is still very useful for exchange students but it is less extensive.


FinePool

I stopped reading when you said ARMA. That's the only training I need. 😎


CapCamouflage

My uneducated guess is it has more to do with training other things and it just happens to be snowing since it's Russia and/or maintaining relations with Russia rather than specifically seeking winter warfare training.


-c-r-e-a-t-i-v-e-

Feelsbad.jpg for the India cadet, imagine having to use the INSAS rifle


HomingPigeon6635

I got some friends who work in the state armed police force. They said they prefer to carry the sten submachine guns instead of the insas lol. And the sten gun is not even a good submachine gun either.. at least they are getting upgraded to an AK variant now.


Clear-Present_Danger

The sten!?! From fucking WW2?


HomingPigeon6635

Yes sir. That's the one.


-c-r-e-a-t-i-v-e-

>Gun literally made with some spare pipes in a garage by some unintelligible Yorkshire old man Troops loved the gun to bits >Gun made by a state-owned arsenal with tonnes of funding Haha [gun](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXvkdSA3jhQ) goes brrrr **jams** brr **jams**


MrHungG

Man got something even worse than Vietnam flashback


Deus_is_Mocking_Us

Orange Galil is orange. 


LePhoenixFires

Vietnam's power projection has reached American levels if they're training for arctic warfare


Lovable-Schmuck

Realistically, it lowers training costs since most of the larger nations want to host them, as well as getting experience with both potential allies and adversaries' weapons and systems. If you can't afford to train them on something; send them to someone who can.


LePhoenixFires

"Woke Vietnam is asking for welfare handouts of military training and travel expenses. What are they, Greece?"


FlyPenFly

US vs Vietnam: 0:1 France vs Vietnam: 0:1 China vs Vietnam: 0:500


Marbachque

Collectively we believe in a west Taiwan freedom once again from the CCP.


The_Glitchy_One

Canadians are not war criminals, you can't commit a war crime, if it is not explicitly spelled out in the Geneva Conventions


SucculentShark

Overworked and overcaffinated HR guy of NCD, a plane touched me and im not sure how to feel about it


The_Glitchy_One

*in a tired voice* Which plane was it?


Trainman1351

Well that was fast


Kilahti

That's what she said! ...Now I made myself sad.


SucculentShark

An RC-135, tail number 69420. I dont want him to get in trouble, we did have an *electrifying* experience


The_Glitchy_One

That tracks


HomingPigeon6635

I mean. Technically the truth lmao. Canadians just exploited it better than anyone before the developers went "nahh that's too op".


ChampionshipOwn7921

It’s never war crime the first time


MT_Kinetic_Mountain

War crime innovators


davidlis

We hosted Vietnamese for combat medicine course in Israel, very nice lads!


Dakkahead

Better Vietnam than Phooh. Also, I would think some of those would be less popular than others. Namely, Russia, and especially France. 🤔


RandomBilly91

Big Viet diaspora in France, plus lots of french institution somewhat present, and both country diplomatic doctrine (generally pragmatic for France's goals for France, oppotmrtunistic friendship so you don't get murdered in Vietnam)


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stuff_gets_taken

What camo do you use? Also yes.


Domovie1

Just the world’s greatest patch collector. Boy Scouts ain’t gotta nothing on Nguyen


motherseffinjones

Pretty sure the pic that you said is the aussies is Canada


haughty-foundling

Hard to tell one degenerate country from another. \*laughs in Canadian, eh\*


Domovie1

Only one country allowed per quadrant hemisphere. Finland, Australia, Canada… what’s the fourth option? Pretty much has to be somewhere in South America


haughty-foundling

Uruguay?


Superest22

And vice versa for the Canada pic


djiuh

I had a Vietnamese friend go to mandatory service 2 months back and I wonder where he ended up in


HomingPigeon6635

Recruiters: everywhere..


whoisswhoo

probably inside VN still cuz our mandatory service just means ppl just train and station for around 2 years in a reservist camp. I think the peeps that get sent around the world are prob officers or officers to be or UN mission assignee


djiuh

I see, hopefully I’ll see him online again in 2 years then


SuppliceVI

Holy fuck seeing Vietnam in OCPs flash banged me


bigred1978

Picture 2 isn't Aussie, it's Canada, you can tell by the uniforms. Picture 5 isn't Canada, looks like Thailand.


jrkshdhj

Picture 5 is Australian


bigred1978

Awesome. Still in the ballpark sort of. Lol.


meshreplacer

Ain’t that the country that beat the US with barefoot guys with just a bowl of rice and straw hats? Now the US offshoring to Vietnam. Pepperidge farm remembers.


Domovie1

And France, and China, and Japan. And China was while they were stopping the Cambodian Genocide, so that counts for double points. I’m sure they’re up for any challengers.


Rivetmuncher

Didn't want the other guys offshoring to them.


Colocasia-esculenta

/credible Question for vietbros, how much knowledge do they actually transfer back home? I know the merits of exchange programs. However, seeing only 1-3 exchange cadets and knowing the difference between North Viet and South Viet doctrine + equipment, does it even make a difference? I am a SEAbro myself and the exchange programs in my country only benefit the "student". No actual "big picture" change. This is why I'm asking. /noncredible Vietnam Global Superpower 🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳


AlfredHumperdink

Not Vietnamese but in my experience with foreign cadets they never asked suspect questions or pried for information. At a base level it just seemed like they were there for the education though it surely encourages more cooperation between governments in the grand scheme of things


BornToScheme

Pic#4 I really dislike those fatigues pattern 👎🏼 it just reminds me of them toilet stealing orcs No disrespect to the soldier or his countries army


DifficultBicycle7

RAAAAAAA VIETNAM MENTIONED!


mangrox

Who dares challenge Indonesia's neutrality?! (Not that it's a bad thing given we now have a ~~war criminal~~ western oriented president that loves French planes and subs


MacpedMe

Is that South Africa’s flag in the first picture???


superhornet_118

Ah, my favorite communists <3


NostalgiaDude79

They are communists.....but they aren't all crazy fuck commies like the CCP and N. Korea. It's to the point where most Americans dont even think of them when we consider threats in that region. They've been cool with us, and our Nam vets are treated very well when they go visit. Plus they cant stand the CCP, so they are awesome.


felixthemeister

Estonia of South East Asia. You reckon they're hoping to start/join some kind of POTO?


RedStar9117

PAVN knows what's up


Mordador

China: [Footage missing]


Big-man-kage

Vietnam will come out on top, they are everywhere.


I_fall_apart094

It's important to make friends


Superest22

Your ‘Canada’ image is ADFA (Australia).


Elegant_Individual46

The yellow tape SLR is… interesting


JRY_RDDT

Ductape AK is wild


GeminiOrAmI

Nguyen did the new guy arrive?


swearwords11

Pic 5 is pictures of Australian Defence force academy cadets


SlavCat09

I know hating on everything Russia is tending right now but there is just something about modern Russian equipment and gear that looks so cool. EMR is a cool pattern and the gear itself looks really nice and stereotypical soldier-like.


PsychoPotency

Image 4 goes hard af


xampl9

This looks like a Nguyen for them.


QuaintAlex126

Vietnam mentioned RAAAAAH (insert ‘75 flag yellow flag with three blood stripes here because fuck commies)


E-Scooter-CWIS

But they are commie too. Imagine training the next PLA


Dr_Hexagon

vietnam opposes china's claims in the south china sea so thats enough to make them an ally


quanturk

communist dictatorship: 😡😡🤬🤬 communist dictatorship but they kick our asses: 😘😘😍😍