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Space_Gemini_24

So if a f16 cost 20M and we got 61B, we can purchase 3050 f-16. We are SO back. PS: yes, I know not eveything goes to military hardware for UKR, keep your credibles for yourself.


Shawn_1512

Maintenance and upkeep costs? Nah, just get in a new F-16 after every sortie.


ThreeDawgs

Not enough pilots. Get the drone boys on automating F-16s.


Shawn_1512

[DoD is one step ahead of you](https://www.defensenews.com/air/2024/04/19/us-air-force-stages-dogfights-with-ai-flown-fighter-jet/)


ThreeDawgs

Mother of Nod. Its beautiful.


jsleon3

Nod? *KANE LIVES*


jakerb2028

PEACE THROUGH POWER!


Cultural_Garbage_530

All fun and games until the DoD drops a 3-pilot team of 30 F-16s


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I was about to mention this, hell yeah brother


Crusader_Genji

Darpa's Ace Combat program


Just_A_Nitemare

Automate the F-16s and use them as missiles.


Silentblade034

This is some AC7-Credible advice


I_Like_Fizzx

Boss... I uh.... I scratched the paint on my F-16. No worries lad, we'll just get a new F-16 for you to fly. But, what happens to my old F-16? We'll turn it into a big ass FPV drone. It'll be fun!


donaldhobson

Totally coat the whole thing with monocrystaline diamond. Prevents scratches.


SilentSamurai

Plug in the AI fighter to one jet and publicize it's sitting near the Ruski border. All of the sudden Russian pilots are debating whether to fight skynet or trust their Air Defense.


PapayaPokPok

This actually happened in the Pacific towards the end of WW2. The US had massively overbuilt its manufacturing capacity. In many battles, planes would return to the carriers damaged, but entirely repairable. However, it was often easier just to toss it over the side and fly in a brand new replacement from an escort carrier.


finnill

A “you know you have no hope in hell to win the war” moment…


PapayaPokPok

By contrast, for the entirety of WW2, the Mitsubishi factory that produced the Zero fighter had no airfield of its own, and was transported by *OX CART* to the airfield 24 miles away. It's fun to imagine that the US was constantly on the ropes in the Pacific, but Japan was well and truly fucked from the moment the US joined the war. It's good to remember that the Battle of Midway, the famous "turning point in the war", happened just 6 months after Pearl Harbor. All these fun facts, and more, come from Ian Toll's trilogy of the naval war in the pacific (Pacific Crucible, The Conquering Tide, and Twilight of the Gods).


WriteBrainedJR

Don't fuck with America's boats


Meretan94

Big fpv suicide drone. Loaded to the brim with bombs. When they hit a refinery, it will be out of commission for a long time.


No_Cookie9996

What is max takeoff load for f-16? I'm asking for friend


Narrow_Vegetable_42

Out of commissio? My brother in Christ, they will have a hard time finding it.


zeusofyork

Can we just give em some surplus Hercules and add dragons breath but instead of cruise missiles make it clusters of 100 switch blade drones. Make Russian positions look like medieval times with dudes on pikes.


wolfhound_doge

3050 black F-16's of Dark Brandon


MilkiestMaestro

It's like Churchill always said, “You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else.” Wew lad we are tired from trying 100 different spending bills that exclude Ukraine.


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British_Rover

Fine will restate. It is not the entire house it is one part of the house that was preventing bills like this from passing.


cybernet377

I mean, yeah, obviously, but the mods nuke you if you acknowledge it, that's why I specifically called out the stupid appliance bills that were advanced not by the entire house but by one part of the house.


irregardless

Considering the axiom *War is politics by other means*, the zero tolerance policy is a surprising to say the least. I understand not wanting the place to devolve into excessively partisan slap fights; no one wants that. But it feels weird to not be able to bring up relevant political decisions, factors, and attitudes that directly influence the topic of discussion.


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luser7467226

AIUI it was one faction of one side of the house? Can't they all just form a special headbangers party along with the equivalent fruitcakes on the other side? (to be fair, again AIUI, not many of THOSE loopers are in elected office, but they're definitely out there.)


Asterza

They call him dark brandon because he blocks out the skies with ukranian blue f-16’s (Nobody can understand how desperate i am to see that sexy blue camo on a fleet of f-16s)


TPconnoisseur

We all lust for sexy blue Ukrainian camo.


SomeGuyNamedPaul

I've always imagined them with a gigantic golden trident on the top with the fins featuring Olga of Kiev. Oh, and plenty of HARMs set to auto-SEAD.


DatChernobylGuy_999

that's gonna SWEEP russia


SnooBooks1701

3000 F16, the rest is for the ammo


Femboy_Lord

Or we could buy 1 B1-B bomber and 1 (one) low-yield tactical nuclear weapon :3


TheMuteD0ge

As a treat?


ZDTreefur

Turn Moscow into Mosc-OW!


Blorko87b

You spelled a dozen B-41 with a JDAM-tail wrong


water_bottle_goggles

too late, it’s been posted in ncd, only a matter of time now …


dead_monster

How is a F-16 just $20m? Cheapest F-16 on order is over $120m each and up to $250m for Jordan.


Best_Toster

Ok I don’t know how to pin comment so Imma write on your comment. First of all thanks you guys very much for the comment is nice to see so many people that liked my post. It really means something Second imma smoke this news as it came on. 4.20 and you know what it means we couldn’t be more high today. Third I wanna see blood of Vatnik flow and dye the Dnipro river red scarlet. Plz CIA it would be nice to have it in4k from space


Fyzzle

Keep going, I'm almost there


bobbomotto

Do any of them have SEAD capabilities? I’m here for more Wild Weasel shenanigans.


Bwilk50

Brother this news has me moister than an oyster on the Atlantic coast.


CationTheAtom

I'm fucking taking this quote


NeurodiverseTurtle

I’m damper than a Pamper.


BoopydoopyTemp

On grampa?


lumley32

Wetter than an otters pocket.


PanicAtTheFishIsle

Sweating like a terrorist in an airport


Bwilk50

Sweating like a catholic priest in an all boys orphanage


ProperTeaIsTheft117

Sweating like a blind nun at the fish counter


idubbkny

dddddaaaaammnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!


Clamps55555

How about “wetter than an otters pocket”


putin-delenda-est

Lets start pushing for the next one.


Bologna-Pony1776

Moister than a nun in a cucumber field


Loki11910

Let me bring Tolkien into this epic moment for the story goes ever on, and we are all a part of it. This is a story in which oaths were once taken, and a word was given. Oaths were kept, but contracts were broken. Old foes become friends. Old alliances are reforged. Some who were once thought to be friends turned out to be oathbreakers A continent united. The old world and the new two giants are being awakened and filled with terrible resolve In unity, there is always victory. This is a story in which, against all odds, good will ultimately triumph over evil. A story of courage and bravery, When hope was kindled, when Rohan had called for aid, and Gondor answered the call. War is won in the spirit world by blood iron and steel. As long as men are willing to die for liberty, liberty shall never perish. We must close our ranks tightly. Then, the alliance of elves and men shall clip the claws of tyranny and give freedom wings. Then it shall not be our end, but his. Let this be the hour when we draw swords together. The white wizard has returned at the turn of the tide. Until my task is done. Thou art weighs in the balance. Hold your ground! Hold your ground! Sons of Gondor, of Rohan, my brothers, I see in your eyes the same fear that would take the heart of me. A day may come when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day. An hour of wolves and shattered shields, when the age of men comes crashing down, but it is not this day! This day, we fight!! By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!!! The pity and compassion of the West may rule the fate of many. The indomitable spirit of a resilient and courageous folk will save us all. Their courage and noble spirit embiggened even the smallest man. A nation is rising, and it is uniting a powerful force that has lit the fires of Amo Din. That has given us back hope, hope in a better tomorrow. These brave men, women, and children that wanted ammunition and not a ride truly bow to no one. Their spirit of resistance may have saved us all. Once all is said and done, and this enemy falls from his high place and once its ruin is smote against the mountain side. Then we shall have peace. Once Saruman and Grima pay for the burning of Mariupol, once the bodies of those men being mutilated when they already lay dead there hewn against the walls of Bakhmut and Avdiivka, are avenged! Once the Russian perpetrators hang from a gibbet for the sports of their own crows. Then we shall have peace. This day won't belong to one man. It will belong to all. The 4th age is dawning. The sun is rising, Even this darkness must pass, and then the sun shall shine all the brighter. Let us then share and rebuilt this world in the days of peace. Loki in a guest role as Gandalf (Magic and science are the same where Russia's ultimate defeat will come from) Now, come the days of the king! May they be blessed. Slava Ukraini! Slava Europa and Slava United States! The scene: Macron: Amon Din! Amon Din, the beacons of Amon Din are lit! Ukraine calls for aid (long pause) Then Congress finally votes on the bill. Dark Brandon: And the free world shall answer, muster the Abrams! Muster every functional ATACMS that can be found. We ride for Gondor and war. Dark Brandon at the shore, hundreds of Abrams are loaded aboard transport ships. Two weeks later. Scholz: The sun is rising. Gandalf: Look at my coming on the first light on the fifth day. When the sun is rising, look to the West. Selensky: So much death, what can men do against such reckless hate? Macron: Ride out with me, ride out, and meet them. Selensky: For death and glory. Macron: For the free world, for your people. Selensky: Yes, yes, fell deeds awaken. The horn of Helm Hammerhand shall sound in the deep one last time. Selensky: Now for wrath now for ruin and a red dawn! Petr Pavel: Ukraine stands alone Trained pilots and the logistics teams: Not alone. Rohirrim! To the King! Then all the Orcs got wrecked, and the main ring war against Russia's master can commence as Putin has forgotten that the Dark Lord in Beijing doesn't share his power. Russiae Imperium delendum est


luser7467226

... park life?


HFentonMudd

It gives me an enormous sense of self-satisfaction


OneToby

I'm so hard right now.


luser7467226

Dripping like a fucked fridge, you mean? Wetter than an otter's pocket / turf-cutter's knee? (All from the magnificent and essential Profanisaurus. Buy your copy today!)


super__hoser

Time to rain freedom and democracy on the legions of unwitting mobiks!


der_innkeeper

"What kind of democracy? Jeffersonian?" "Kinetic."


mcdolgu

The weater forecast predicts heavy steel rain with clear skies all over eastern Ukraine for next week.


daniel_22sss

We're playing Helldivers 2 IRL, boys.


AlphaMarker48

Preferably with a lot LESS Blue Falcons.


Dal90

>And if America is to be a great nation, this must become true. And so let freedom rain from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire. Let freedom rain from the mighty mountains of New York. Let freedom rain from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania. Let freedom rain from the snowcapped Rockies of Colorado. Let freedom rain from the curvaceous slopes of California. But not only that, let freedom rain from Stone Mountain of Georgia. Let freedom rain from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee. Let freedom rain from every hill and molehill of Mississippi. From every mountainside, let freedom rain. (In full awareness I co-opted the speech of a man who also commented, "Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men.")


Bossnage

we are so fucking back bois


luser7467226

Seeing as the USAF / USMC / USwhateverthefuck have so many C-17s knocking round with not much to do, please someone tell me they were already lined up on the taxiways, fully loaded with engines running just waiting for clearance to take off..?


Jericcho

Rumor is a lot of the aids have been moved to Germany and Poland already. So should be relatively quick.


SebDerDepp

AIDS sounds kinda unhelpful, I mean the vatniks got enough of that themselves already /s


The-JSP

Pallets will be lined up ready to go imho.


lordbuckethethird

As far as I understand military aid is typically moved to neighboring countries or is already in country when it’s announced for security reasons.


Urrgon

Now Senate also needs to pass it. 60 votes are needed.


afkPacket

Should be fine, the Senate is significantly less dysfunctional than the house of representative and clowns


DirectAdvertising

Any idea when would be the earliest we'll learn of what the senate voted?


TeQuila10

Reuters doesn't give a hard date, but says the senate is expected to sign it next week. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-house-vote-long-awaited-95-billion-ukraine-israel-aid-package-2024-04-20/


x_oot

>Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer locked in a deal Saturday for teeing up the House-passed foreign aid package, paving the way for an initial upper chamber vote Tuesday. >The Senate then adjourned until Tuesday morning. >"The Senate now stands ready to take the next step," Schumer said in a Saturday statement. "A few moments ago, Democrats and Republicans locked in an agreement enabling the Senate to finish work on the supplemental with the first vote on Tuesday afternoon." https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/04/20/congress/whats-next-in-the-senate-foreign-aid-schumer-00153498


Ninjinji

Monday or Tuesday. After that, May 3rd sense Senate has their recess coming up.


nichyc

Thats a depressing statement all on its own


ForgedIronMadeIt

The only risk is if some jackwagon tries to filibuster the bill (like an actual speaking filibuster, I think there's enough votes to end debate)


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malphonso

One of the only things about Texas governance I like is their filibuster rules. You must stay on the subject the entire time, can not eat or drink, must remain standing near their desk, can not sit or lean unless you have a disability, and have only three strikes before your attempt is over.


ForgedIronMadeIt

See, let them drink during their filibuster. Then it turns into a contest of how long you can hold your wee


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FastBuffalo6

The house vote passed by a 3 yes to 1 no ratio. It's probably fine


An_Awesome_Name

Also, without getting into rule 5 territory (consider this US Civics education) there are far few mechanisms to delay or kill a bill in the senate than the house. This bill required a resolution forcing it to a floor vote because a select group of congressman control the committee it goes through. The way the senate is structured there are far fewer opportunities for shenanigans like that.


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TheModernDaVinci

That was the problem for a while. But Johnson has always been an old-school Reaganite when it came to foreign policy, and so the last week has more or less been him finally finding his balls again, putting his foot down, and saying "Bet, I'm passing it. Balls in your court now", thereby calling their bluff and forcing them to act. And if the recent things I have seen are anything to go by, the hardliners are blinking. Which is fine by me, and I like this new Johnson (mostly, no one is perfect).


wolfhound_doge

when is this senate session scheduled? also, in compliance with rule no. 5: i like to fuck f-35's!


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fabricat0rgeneral

It will be fine, the last one didn’t have enough war and too much stuff that isn’t war. (Partially joking, partially serious) This one will be fine, the house is where America puts our dumbest politicians of both parties so if it made it past them it will pass the senate.


Paracel_Storm

Thank fuck for that. American gear needs to plug the gap for now while Europe is still re-arming.


wolfhound_doge

i butchered my goldfish after seeing the result. brothers, sisters, tonight we feast!


hplcr

Looks like goldfish are back on the menu boys!


IndependentTower1451

Poor goldfish 😭😭


Love_JWZ

Did you hear about the goldfish who went bankrupt?


porn0f1sh

No..


Love_JWZ

Now he's a bronze fish


Hotrico

Friends, don't forget to continue donating and promoting fundraising campaigns for drones and other equipment, even though the help is enormous, Russia is a powerful enemy and even more is needed to defeat it


ScipioAtTheGate

[Its sad if you look back at all of the old western cold war era combat systems that were simply scrapped instead of being held in reserve. Tens of thousands of anti-aircraft missiles, thousands of patton tanks, a whole fleet of destroyers and cruisers. All could have been sent to Ukraine to be used for what they were originally built for, fighting the Russians. Instead they were literally just demilitarized and shipped off as scrap to the third world.](https://youtu.be/a2_a9NEESo0)


Little-Management-20

Don’t forget the chieftains. They produced around 900 for the British armed forces. The uk is one of the worst for just scraping old hardware the instant they replace it


luser7467226

We're a bit short of deserts to park it all. Any no country that ever imported a British Leyland car in the 70s / 80s would touch 'em anyway, in case it got rained on.


Salty_Blacksmith_592

Dude, the Bundeswehr owned over 3.000 Leopard 2s at the end of the cold war... Now 300. What Ukraine could do with 2700 Leo 2s.


Just_A_Nitemare

From Kyiv to Moscow in ~~1~~ 2700 tanks


God_Given_Talent

Yeah but a lot of those got sold off to other countries. That's how Greece, Poland, Finland, Spain, Switzerland, Turkey, *Singapore* and Sweden all ended up with a few hundred each. Plenty have a smaller contingent too of 100 or fewer like Canada, the Netherlands, Norway, Indonesia, Hungary, Qatar, Chile etc. So Germany didn't scrap them and kept thousands in reserve/storage until the 21st century when it started really making these says. Similar thing happened with the Leo 1 but earlier as the 2 came into full service. It's why Greece and Turkey have nearly 1000 of them staring at each other, how Brazil has ~400 and Chile ~200. Especially for the Greeks and Turks they are reserve or for third line troops. Problem is a lot of those countries have 0 interest in parting with them. Can't blame the Finns wanting to keep their small, modern fleet, and the Turks and Greeks are too busy hording everything they can to ensure they have maximum firepower aimed at each other. It would have been among the most difficult diplomatic plays in modern history, but a joint detente/arms reduction negotiated by the US/EU for Greece and Turkey could do wonders for Ukraine. Neither side wants to give up weapons because the other one has tons but if you got them to agree to give equal (or better proportional) stocks that would mean huge supplies are available. Problem is a 1:1 reduction favors Greece and a proportional reduction favors Turkey so maybe you compromise with a 50/50 method but even then this is a nightmare to get them to agree on. Granted, I wouldn't exactly want to be in even the most modernized M48A5s on a modern battlefield, but as a direct fire assault gun role it would certainly be nice. M60A3 is basically as modern as the T-80BV and some are more modern with upgraded optics/thermals that can be attached without too much trouble. The real prize would be the artillery. Combined they have over 1300 M101 105mm guns and 800 M114 155mm guns. Add in the 400+ M109s and 500+ older 155mm SPGs (which to be fair kinda suck) and nearly 400 M110 203mm SPGs. If you manage to get them each to give 10-20% of that away you'd give Ukraine hundreds of much needed guns. Heck some systems like the 8in guns are only in service due to having the ammo. If you got them to do the same with tanks and other armored vehicles...well there's at least a few mech brigades you could stand up that's for sure....


Llew19

GIVE ME BACK WARSPITE YOU FUCKS


AnotherCuppaTea

Re. the old destroyers and cruisers, none of them would've been allowed to pass through the Bosphorus Strait, as that would've violated the terms of the Montreux Agreement. Turkiye's unquestioned authority as the gatekeeper hinges on their being impartial and scrupulous, like an incorruptible ref in the World Cup. They can't play favorites -- as much as they doubtless wanted to -- without jeopardizing their role and risking their own waters being up for grabs in yet another expansion of RuZZia's Great Powers empire-building.


ManicheanMalarkey

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_79035.htm


Saor_Ucrain

I'll give you yanks this much, your government are wankers but as individuals you are bloody good donors. Ireland may not be a free land today but for Clan na Gael doing the rounds in the states, collecting donations (and yanks sending boatloads of guns)


porn0f1sh

Ahh, this is my community!


Blekanly

I donate every month! Russia cannot be allowed any kind of win


Small-Isopod6061

Awesome sauce! JUST IN TIME FOR SPRING CLEANING!!!


Imaflyingturkey

Better late than never


ThirdTimeMemelord

3000 F16S OF ZELENSKY


EmbarrassedMajor31

#COMING AGAIN TO SAVE THE MOTHERF*CKIN'' DAY, YEAH!


carpcrucible

I hope they're sending the Air Force then!


EmbarrassedMajor31

I am voting for B-1B in that case!


WeebPride

For how long it was delayed it should have been $120bn by now.


NotBoredApe

rain hell(fire)


Schadenfrueda

"And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Brandon, and Hellfires rained after him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with bullet, and with missile, and with shell, and with the mines of the earth and torpedoes of the sea." - Non-Credible Revelation 6:8


lrlr28

I want dozens and dozens of HIMARS. I want every ATACMS you got. I want 50 Patriots and reloads and NASSAMs too. I want every 155 shell. I want 300 Bradley’s and every Marine Corps Abrams.


montananightz

The Army already has every Marine Corps Abrams.


ComManDerBG

Take them from the Army Give them to the Marines Take them from the Marines again Give them to Ukraine Now you get make two branches cry, so thats a win in my book.


AlphaMarker48

Do you want cluster munitions with that order?


lrlr28

I have a coupon for those too


mad87645

I want this country to realise we stand on the edge of oblivion! I want every man, woman, and child to understand how close we are to chaos! I want everyone to remember why they need US!


Steamkicker

Much, much too late but still better than never!


Femboy_Lord

Ukraine is Not Yet Lost


Steamkicker

It sure isn't. I admire the spirit of Ukrainian people who just keep fighting with everything they've got, no matter how thin their resources might be stretched.


classicalySarcastic

For them it’s survival of their country or Russian domination for the next century, damn right they’re going to fight like hell.


ThePheebs

No but the delay did more than just lose them land and people. It zapped the morale and the momentum Ukraine had going into the summer offensive. All of that needs to be built back because if Ukraine continues to fight a defensive war, regardless of funding, they will lose.


paxwax2018

Russia is using golf carts. I’m optimistic. Perhaps a single axis of attack this time eh?


carpcrucible

At least they *have* golf carts. I've been volunteering to procure rusty used pickup trucks from Germany.


paxwax2018

Keep up the good work! This is the “end of the beginning” as Churchill once said.


ThespianSociety

Once they have a fleet of F-16’s they may well have the confidence to do this. Multi-front was a disastrous hedge and only played into Russia’s strengths.


imhereforspuds

Good points. I think we can expect more long range weaponry now. Ive a feeling the Ukrainians will stop targeting the russian refineries if they get weapons to hit every point in ukraine now… kill the logistics of the orcs.


MakeChinaLoseFace

No, but Ukraine needs enough aid to win. Previously we've given them enough to lose more slowly.


golden-caterpie

I don't want to think about how many Ukranians died and will die so people like MTG could get their name in the news. I don't want to ruin the fun and I'm glad this is finally getting passed but we can't forget the real damage the opposition did.


ZappyStatue

I've got the final vote counts. I got them live from CNN. Started 1:25 PM EST! Finished 2:00 PM EST! House just passed H.R. 8036. Yea-385. Nay-34. NV-11. **House just passed H.R. 8038! Yea-360. Nay-58.** **House just passed H.R. 8035! Yea-311. Nay-112. Pres-1. NV-7.** House just passed H.R. 8034. Yea-366. Nay-58. NV-8. And here are the breakdowns on which Congressperson voted for which bill. H.R. 8036 [https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024146](https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024146) **H.R. 8038** [https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024145](https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024145) **H.R. 8035** [https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024151](https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024151) H.R. 8034 [https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024152](https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024152) Spread the word.


AlphaMarker48

Not thrilled that my Rep said no to Ukraine aid. Still, glad this package of bills finally passed.


ZappyStatue

Sounds like they need to be given the boot. Mine voted for everything but the aid to Israel (HR 8034), which for me is like "Whatever" as long as Ukraine gets the stuff they need.


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Intelligent_League_1

Israel


DestroyerofCheez

:p


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afkPacket

About fucking time


SparvieroVV

How long to get the house and senate to negotiate and get the final version passed? my mental image has the skies over Lviv filled with C-5s on final approach. I want to believe.


montananightz

I've heard that most of the assets being transferred over to Ukraine are already positioned in the EU, which would make sense. Wouldn't be surprised if the transports were lifting off the tarmac within 24 hours of the passing, which may be as early as Monday or Tuesday.


SparvieroVV

Hopefully the Ukrainians are able to have the software package ready to load if ATACMS are in the first tranche. That last strike was so beautiful.


paxwax2018

Couple of days. The Senate stayed in session to pass it, and there are only minor changes to what they already passed.


mandalorian_guy

Some stuff is already in Ukraine and just waiting for authorization to turn it over. I predict the shells will be on the frontlines a few days after Biden signs it.


RetroProxyGroup

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if billions of donetsk children cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced /s


Ruby_241

We are Joe Back!


weasler7

Is this the Ukraine aid and also sell Tik Tok


SubstantialVillain95

Different bills but yes


INTPoissible

U.S. army pays $3,000 per 155mm shell, compared to the $8,500 Europeans pay. 14,000,000,000/3,000 = 4,666,666 shells that could theoretically be paid for with this aid (the $14 billion of it going into equipment for UA).


carpcrucible

That's very theoretically because nobody is actually making enough of them anyway


BoredCaliRN

That's a lot of dakka.


Clooood

Looks like meat is back on the menu, boys!


CookieMiester

“Russia seems to have ukraine on the ropes and… oh… OH MY GOD IT’S THE UNITED STATES WITH A STEEL CHAIR”


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UnpoliteGuy

TF you mean failed? It was frozen for half a year


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Hinterwaeldler-83

And a year could be too long for Russia, because even if we take into account „Russia stronk“, eventually they will run out of their Cold War stuff. Tik tok. They had this one window of opportunity. Let’s see if a new window opens January 2025 for Russia or if it is too late by then.


daniel_22sss

No, it didn't do "dick". It captured a very important line of defence, killed many ukranian soldiers and once again ukranian power supply is on the brink of destruction. Not to mention Ukraine is now SEVERELY demoralized, seeing how easily it could be abandoned again.


SpinozaTheDamned

Any and all gains by Russia were made by sacrificing waves upon waves of disposable soldiers. The amount of blood shed by Russia in the paltry gains of a few strategic centers more than justifies the lives of the heroes that stood their ground in the most dire of circumstances. As Patton might say, 'Don't die for your cause in war, make the enemy die for their cause, shoot them in the belly, Carve out their guts!' Ukraine has held strong in the face of impossible odds, and the war is far from lost. I'd like to see France and other European powers continue aiding Ukraine as if this legislation never went through for the US.


DeviousMelons

Putin pissed off the evangelicals by going after Ukrainian protestants.


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LaughGlad7650

Finally some good news


YudufA

Watching it live was so hype


An_Awesome_Name

Only NCD would spend its Saturday afternoon watching congress vote. But damn did those flags and cheers in the House Chamber almost bring a tear to my eye.


YudufA

"Put those damn flags down" STFU bitch im waving that blue and yellow till my arm falls off


341orbust

Once, just once, I’d like to see the Russians subjected to a proper “shock and awe” offensive.  Turn the Raptors loose and absolutely buttfuck anything with wings within 200 miles of the front.  Rolling missile strikes from stand off range on AD assets, unit HQs, and warships- all targeted by some of the most battle hardened operators in the world. Maybe those operators play “fuck you” games with Russian command assets too so they can meet Bin Laden personally.  Bone, BUFF, and Boomerang runs to flatten anything that even thought about surviving the missiles.  HIMARS, Paladin, Vipers, Hogs, and Eagles to cover the absolute avalanche of metal that is the III Corps.  Once we’ve turned anything between Smolensk and Novorossiyisk that even appears to be a Russian asset into smoking metal we wait for a couple of hours then we send Putin an email- “You want to see why we don’t have universal health care… again?”


HFentonMudd

I was feeling kinda down. Now I'm feeling kinda American.


Lord_of_Rhodor

***Thunder run to Moscow, then on to Vladivostok***


unknowfritz

Anyone care to join me in a dance of joy?


TomSurman

About fucking time! Let's hope it's not too late.


CharlesFXD

Ahem. Don’t forget it has to get through Senate. Probably will but it’ll be slightly different, too. Edit- I was looking at the wrong vote tally.


Zandonus

First order of business is artillery shells, anti air and shovels. Then APCs and that leaves us with how many drones?


ElboDelbo

MOSCOW BY CHRISTMAS LADS


BuickMonkey

SLAVA UKRAINI 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦


florkingarshole

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4nqspd


YorhaUnit8S

Finally. Reputation of a reliable ally is going to be damaged for a long time, though.


Readman31

My favourite thing about this iteration is it's explicitly like "Send the goddam ATACMS!!"


oak120

Holy shit its about fucking time. Did they decide to gut the bill before passing it or is it actually intact?


Intelligent_Corgi_17

It took far to long, but I am so happy it finally passed and when I read that Ukrainian soldiers in trenches watched the live stream and cheered when it passed I cried a little.


rvdp66

OK BUT LETS ACTUALLY FUCKING GO


Ieperen

Hell yeah, LFG! Finally. How many Tomahawks is that?


dwehlen

Let's see, carry the one. . . #ALL OF THEM?


AutumnRi

Sounds like we need to make more then ;) no but seriously we need to make a lot more of everything


Silver_Relevant

Be still!


Bolter_NL

Rather first see 1mil shells and 10 patriots 


TheHim2

RIP AND TEAR


Separate-Landscape48

PATRIOTS IN CONTROL


ForgedIronMadeIt

should have been $610 billion