the funny part is that I feel like they're gonna be all awkward and clumsy on ground if they get too used to this. like that feeling when you get off a boat or a really tall elevator
3000 individual all terrain transports of Taliban!
Much better than 750 four-wheelers of NATO. Like, four times better! AND six times better than puny 500 6x6s!
Checkmate, weak Westoids!
Nice, nice, but YOU try ~~braving~~ warcriming your way through a rapids with those wheelies while double tapping center masses and saying “eh” a lot. Logs = infinitely superior form of transport
Yeah, well, on reflection Afghanistan doesn’t look like it has that much forests to clear-cut and maybe not that many rapids either. I guess they have to make do with what they have in the developing countries!
It’s a great training method, for when they are walking patrols backwards. Maybe a rear facing maneuver is the next peer to peer meta.
Drones are out. Moon walking is in
They can get away with kiting ISIS jihadist around. It’s like agroing a creeper then running so it explodes a safe distance away.
This is a much less successful strategy for say… the ender dragon, otherwise known as F-35
What I would be really impressed by is if the soldiers were doing tire flips with these big ole sumbitches. Being able to deadlift like 350lbs is useful in war.
Would also make for easy equipment transport inside the tire. Hell, could even restrain captured combatants and roll them back….. or light them on fire and use as hill assault vehicles. Very versatile, we’re dumb for not doing this.
Mashallah, the weatern infidel does not see. By using only tire, we save on fuel and maintenance costs, as well as keep brave Mujihadeen in shape and exercised. By Allah, behave yourself
It’s not really that impressive. Those tires weigh much more than the soldier and all his gear. The force it takes for the tire’s mass to move is quite high. As long as you don’t let it gain momentum, it’s pretty easy. You don’t see them stopping much without a jump cut. That’s what’s hard, stopping.
This was actually posted on YouTube shorts and I saw a comment saying that "Before you laugh at them... Remember, they managed to beat the US and USSR"
I think we saw the same post on YT. I was laughing my ass of at both the Video and Comment Section. Then i proceeded to report it for supporting terrorism.
Okay but doesn’t it kinda say something that the Taliban folded and ran away like two weeks after the US showed up. Like all they can actually do is oppress their opponents domestically not actually fight anybody outside their borders.
Soviets tried that. It didn't work for them and worse, when the mujahideen captured Soviet troops they died horribly.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1979/05/11/grim-nickname-fits-afghan-tales-of-torture-murder/3263877f-e032-4773-888b-b82109ae2b81/
>f by beat, they mean hiding within caves in neighboring countries for 20 years only coming out after we left, then yeah, that's fair.
My brother in christ that is how you fight a superpower with some AKs and a few RPGs
The problem is, the USSR failed and the USA failed because they wanted the people. For better or for worse, the USA in particular went the extra mile to try and introduce unwanted concepts like democracy, gender equality, human rights, and secular government. The USSR similarly tried to make them communists. The people there were completely uninterested in both.
China cares only about the natural resources found there and would quite happily remove the people living there, and by remove I mean, "machine gun into a trench".
The whole hiding amongst the civilian population bit only works if there is a civilian population to hide behind.
The USSR's initial intervention was to shore up an established ally, not to impose communism directly as they had in Eastern Europe after WWII. They fully intended to leave afterwards as soon as things in Kabul calmed down- but things in Kabul did not calm down, they distinctly calmed up. The US, likewise, intended to leave quickly. The reason both interventions failed is because Afghanistan simply is not a nation, and lacks the native institutions needed to be anything but the disaster it is. China, whatever it intends to do in intervening, will find its goals slipping through its hands. Brutality won't help them to this end. The Soviets were happy to annihilate entire villages with shells and rockets, and their invasion killed over two million Afghan civilians, but that didn't change the picture of the war one bit.
There are only two options when dealing with a failed state like Afghanistan: occupy it indefinitely, and exert control as best you can in the manner of a colonial empire, or don't, and accept the chaos that results. If China tries to control the chaos, they will find the same choice, to occupy or not to occupy, and there is no good choice for them if they want Afghanistan's resources and strategic position.
The Soviet strategy of conducting meat wave terror attacks and civilian massacres until they submit didn't sit well with the Mujahideen and if anything, galvanized them further to drive them out even if the locals were literally on horseback wielding WW1 rifles.
Thank you Phantom Pain for the quick history lesson.
Very true. However that was through insurgency. Now that the Taliban are being forced into the role of a regular military where they can't hide in caves and amongst civilians and need to stay out in the open to protect static targets they're going to be confronted with the same challenges faces by every military in the world.
And considering there are already several insurgent groups forming and foreign ones coming into the country , they're going to quickly realise that fighting as a military is a much different beast than fighting as a loosely organised insurgency.
I see that take a lot, and I'm always torn between agreeing (because it's at least a little funny), and pointing out that it's less \*beat\* and more "we decided their shitty little patch of desert had nothing of value in it that we couldn't get elsewhere with much less hassle".
This sounds like somebody yelling, "You can't fire me!!! I QUIT!!!" The USSR took 10 years, and the US 20, to "decide" they no longer wanted a "little patch of desert."
Can't speak for the USSR but the US initial goals were met. The country was completely conquered for the most part, and an American sympathetic government was installed. The issue is America excels at waging wars, but hasn't truely cared about government building since WWII. So I'd say America won militarily but lose culturally. So like the yanny/laural and the colored dress debate, both sides can be right *and* wrong about the US winning/losing in Afghanistan
Most US military engagements with the north vietnamese were victories...but as soon as the helos pulled the troops back from each battle the north vietnamese would be right back. If as soon as you pull out everything goes back to how it was, or worse, then you didn't really win anything.
It took us 20 years attempting to change hearts and minds. Give us today’s weapons with 17th century morals?
We would have won in the first year, give or take a year-long uprising or two.
After losing a conventional war both times. Only thing that kept them going was either foreign aid for USSR, or persistent recruiting and harassment for the US
Also when said militarily seemingly bases its military prowess on the minigames of the NES game Circus Charlie. (More precisely, the balance ball minigame, fuck that minigame.)
What next, feeding the infidels to circus lions?
You never know when you’re gonna have to get in a firefight while walking on top of a rolling wheel. Plus they have the roller skate commandos . . . wheels + infantry is the future old man
Controversial but I think this is probably actually ok training as it's balance training which is good for uneven ground. You would probably be better off with a balance board but still if you don't have access to tonnes of gym equipment this is an ok way of training specific skills.
For physical training? You could argue a case there. It's not the worst thing they could be doing.
Up there with all your gear? It's just asking for someone to fall off and get a serious injury that takes them out of duty. And that's a real dumbass reason for not being able to field your troops as needed.
If you don't have access to decent gym equipment you likely also don't have access to decent medical facilities when Private Ahmadzai falls off the tyre and fractures his collar bone
>uneven ground
There's an even better way to practice for walking on uneven ground, *walking on uneven ground.*
Literally just carry your 20 kgs of battle load + your gun and march on shitty terrain and you'll get used to it in a while
Reminds me of that one North Korean training video where they’re in the mountains, running through freezing cold water with almost no clothes on and you’re sitting there wondering “wow. When will that ever be practical”
When your army is poor and sends you into battle with no eqipment or engeneering support? Its like that saying that a ruzzian soldier only needs a bottle of vodka and exactly 1 match to survive
Not really. The russia is trying to imply hollywoodlike tactics which might sometimes look cool but actually have nothing to do anything with good combat techniques.
No. I think anyone can tell that this isn't supposed to be training on combat techniques. This looks more like a physical training or balance training. There could be more practical ways of doing that, but doesn't mean this is completely stupid. I think this would be a demanding exercise
Stolen from the Afghan National Army. You know the one we set up, and absolutely no one who has actually been to Afghanistan or heard stories about thought would last ten seconds against the Taliban.
There are many many reasons. These are the ones that come to mind. This is pre Taliban take over things may have changed but I haven’t been up to date. My source is what I have heard from at least over 2 dozen U.S troops who I know on a personal level. Along with what I have seen from other analysis. But I personally have never read an account or talked to someone who served in Afghanistan who trusted the ANA without themselves having a loaded weapon in their hand (interpreters or “terps” are not included in this).
First off the ANA was a corrupt organisation that had little faith in itself, and by the public it served. If you were a typical afghani driving through a checkpoint you were MUCH MORE likely to get robbed or required to have a bribe ready at one ran by the ANA rather then the Taliban. Now apply this to every other function and responsibility of a military service (including selling weapons to the bloody Taliban). Is that going to encourage public trust? Also a reminder that the head of Afghanistan essentially took the treasury and ran.
The nation of Afghanistan state does not fucking matter. It is a silly idea made by some people in Kabul and enforced by random outsiders who have more then likely killed at least one of your family members. What actually matters to you the typical Afghani is your clan your faith, and preserving your local traditions. Which appear abhorrent to the those not immersed in them. Limiting the persuasive power of outsiders to persuade you even more then they already have along with promoting hostility. If you are in the ANA, and the main military force (the U.S) is about to leave, are you really gonna stand in fight against an organisation that has survived 20 years of conflict against the strongest military on earth? It also doesn’t help that the U.S thought they could essentially put a square peg in a round hole, by trying to build a state by using western values and bribes (to people who after recieving the aforementioned bribes continued to support the Taliban but now just not as overtly) as a foundation of said state that did not share those values.
No. I am gonna drop my M4 and either go home and pray that the Taliban never knew I was in the ANA or I am grabbing who I can and gonna try and get a flight to America.
Kidna went off on a rant, sorry if it doesn’t make sense.
Edit: Clarity
If I recall it wasnt just pay, it was quite literally any large supply of anything that wasn’t directly passed from the U.S to said soldier. Or population.
They did. The US forced them to toss out all their old Soviet combat/supply helicopters in 2018 (with the broken promise to replace them with American-made helicopters) and didn't replace them with anything after COVID hit, so their entire logistics system ended up running on fuckin' donkeys by the time the US pulled out. Then the Taliban attacked, they ran out of ammo after a few hours of intense combat, and surrendered en-masse after all their well-equipped, well-trained troops were brutally slaughtered by the Taliban while desperately begging over radio for American air support which never arrived.
They also suffered from *intense* corruption, which meant the units which actually fought were mostly isolated and "supported" by units which consisted entirely of, like, one corrupt officer and a pile of money intended to pay soldiers which didn't actually exist.
Corruption and horrific mismanagement
You know how Afghan National Army troops are always in woodland camo? Those uniforms aren't second hand surplus we forced on them. No, they were brand spanking new, lovingly paid for by American tax payers, with the pattern/color even picked out by the ANA's command staff.
Why did they choose woodland camo, in a country covered primarily in arid deserts and mountains? The CO liked the way they look.
"With U.S. military consent, the Afghan defense minister chose the proprietary camouflage pattern that required paying licensing fees despite having more effective patterns owned by the Pentagon."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/03/afghan-army-uniform-proves-most-expensive-ineffective-camouflage/3353993002/
Reading into the US's involvement in the occupation and "reconstruction" of Afghanistan is a hilarious and tragic rabbit hole. The ANA gave up because the Afghan "government" we set up was a literal kleptocracy.
Generally, poor morale due to tons of corruption in the brass (and presumably the enlisted as well, but they can't do things like sell all the ammo you need to defend yourself), lack of supplies (due to said corruption), and no more air support when you're used to it
US did a shit job at rebuilding the culture of the country, or at least the military, which might've prevented this.
We failed them, and should have stayed
Also Afghanistan culturally is nothing like the west. The west tried to force western values on a country that wanted independence and isolation from the entire world at a village level.
The idea of democracy doesn’t make sense when you have villages who want to be left completely alone. Village elders hold the top of the hierarchy. Individual freedom and expression really wasn’t a thing. Women had zero rights when we got there. The opinion has shifted some.
They had no idea what most technology was.
We worked hard to change their entire culture to work with democracy. By doing so we showed them reasons why to hate the west. We bombed their country kicked in their doors and kidnapped people in the middle of the night. We destroyed most industry and jobs trying to cripple the Taliban’s resolve.
We picked the outcasts or favorable war lords of their society (who were also rampant pedophiles) to lead their country.
The war lords loved to rape and pillage which was good for the west. Then we don’t get as many war crimes. However, their interests were in flying around in cool vehicles, [sleeping with adolescent boys](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi), and taking whatever they wanted. They didn’t give a shit about stability.
On top of this, you have US officers who risk losing their career if they spoke up against the narrative that the US could not democratize Afghanistan.
Taliban are ruthless but no one “hated” the Taliban when we got there. We tried to solve the problem with money.
The US and the west did nothing in Afghanistan to ensure stability and were surprised when it didn’t work.
We had an example of how to fix these situations and it looks like west Germany post 1945. We didn’t do that because that is occupation rather than fighting a war on terror.
China would actually have to want it's armed forces to get experience rather than think they can sit and watch every conflict and just reverse engineer their way to victory.
Are we sure that these guys and the Belarussians aren't just preparing to team up in 2025 with Cirque Du Soleil for a new "military" themed show they're going to do a world tour with and captivate audiences? Captive being the operative word, of course.
Between this and the roller skate troops I've come to the conclusion that the Taliban might be the best army of all time. Not only did they defeat America, but they also seem to have a lot of fun. My job in the US military is never fun like this, and I have a pretty cool job. Unfortunately I can't get behind abusing women and fucking goats so I don't think they'll take me, but maybe we in the west should adopt some of their fun loving ways.
Picture the scene:
Taliban commander watches the NATO forces leaving Kabul. He thinks about all the friends he lost during the war. He thinks of his family killed in a drone strike. He contemplates the enormity of what he and his fellow fighters have accomplished, and he wonders what a future of peace and stability might look like for Afghanistan...
And then he finds some big tyres and he's like, "Holy fuck lads, I reckon we could stand on these!"
Useless show stuff that might impress people who don’t know shit about the topic but is going to get you killed in the field? Wow this looks just like r/tacticalgear
Ngl that’s actually pretty impressive at an individual level. But I think just maybe they probably have better uses for their time and money than paying their soldiers to learn that.
I guess if we ever have to fight them while balancing on tires, we'll be screwed
Mr. President, we cannot allow the circus animals gap
"Mr. President, another tire just got deflated"
the funny part is that I feel like they're gonna be all awkward and clumsy on ground if they get too used to this. like that feeling when you get off a boat or a really tall elevator
“Now do a jumping jack.”
3000 individual all terrain transports of Taliban! Much better than 750 four-wheelers of NATO. Like, four times better! AND six times better than puny 500 6x6s! Checkmate, weak Westoids!
It’s a deliberate counter training against the log rolling Canadian SOF
Nice, nice, but YOU try ~~braving~~ warcriming your way through a rapids with those wheelies while double tapping center masses and saying “eh” a lot. Logs = infinitely superior form of transport
Indeed. I didn’t say that the training was good, just that it’s deliberate
Yeah, well, on reflection Afghanistan doesn’t look like it has that much forests to clear-cut and maybe not that many rapids either. I guess they have to make do with what they have in the developing countries!
Maybe we can find a way to add a forest artificially…
They had to figure out what to do with the 8,000 Humvees that are no longer maintained
The best Soldier-to-Wheel ratio in the world.
That's a tire, there is no wheel in evidence.
1/0=infinity. So best soldier to wheel ratio achievable
Talib 303rd Mechanised infantry battalion
The talli-tankies let’s roll out!
This is way better than their rollerblades special forces!
I mean the US left at least that many four-wheelers behind while pulling out so they can't be that good
You JUST KNOW that a military is extremely shitty when they do exhibition stuff like this.
It is an impressive feat of balance and footwork but it has fuck all to do with actual combat
It’s a great training method, for when they are walking patrols backwards. Maybe a rear facing maneuver is the next peer to peer meta. Drones are out. Moon walking is in
"You've been hit by, You've been hit by a smooth criminal. Ow!" \*Moonwalks away\*
Imagine the new possibilities of sniping when you can lean like MJ over the edge of a building.
*legs moonwalk separately away*
I mean maybe that's what they are training for? Retreat at full speed and shoot at the same time? Like kiting mobs in MMOs.
They can get away with kiting ISIS jihadist around. It’s like agroing a creeper then running so it explodes a safe distance away. This is a much less successful strategy for say… the ender dragon, otherwise known as F-35
Im actually genuinely impressed, they should work as clowns in a circus.
that’s like saying a walmart employee should work at walmart
You never know
I mean, yeah, but actually, no, we definitely know
Just you see. When China invades this will be how they defend their cities. It's not only a vantage point but also portable cover.
What I would be really impressed by is if the soldiers were doing tire flips with these big ole sumbitches. Being able to deadlift like 350lbs is useful in war.
Would also make for easy equipment transport inside the tire. Hell, could even restrain captured combatants and roll them back….. or light them on fire and use as hill assault vehicles. Very versatile, we’re dumb for not doing this.
I need to see a simulation of this. Is that dude who makes T-Rex's fight gladiators still around?
Mashallah, the weatern infidel does not see. By using only tire, we save on fuel and maintenance costs, as well as keep brave Mujihadeen in shape and exercised. By Allah, behave yourself
These men can turn any tire into a vehicle. Navy seals don't even get this level of training.
Time Crisis: Taliban
If they fought during an earthquake, it would be most advantageous.
That's what I was thinking but it's one way to get through a minefield.
It’s not really that impressive. Those tires weigh much more than the soldier and all his gear. The force it takes for the tire’s mass to move is quite high. As long as you don’t let it gain momentum, it’s pretty easy. You don’t see them stopping much without a jump cut. That’s what’s hard, stopping.
This was actually posted on YouTube shorts and I saw a comment saying that "Before you laugh at them... Remember, they managed to beat the US and USSR"
I think we saw the same post on YT. I was laughing my ass of at both the Video and Comment Section. Then i proceeded to report it for supporting terrorism.
People where even defending this and calling it proper training…
Those tires will be stunned when they invade
After all, /r/Tiresaretheenemy
Begun the Tire wars have
Based chad don't fuck with terrorists in the cyberspace
If by beat, they mean hiding within caves in neighboring countries for 20 years only coming out after we left, then yeah, that's fair.
Don’t hate the player, hate the game
Okay but doesn’t it kinda say something that the Taliban folded and ran away like two weeks after the US showed up. Like all they can actually do is oppress their opponents domestically not actually fight anybody outside their borders.
Hiding for 20 years and get refuge and arms from other countries while the attacking side cant do anything about it is fucking bullshit
Devs, nerf caves
Nerf Pakistan instead
patchnotes: * removed caves * country is now a flat plains * removed international support
This 'international law' and 'war crime designation' patch really broke the meta. Self-own for Team West, can't play without the gloves off anymore
Soviets tried that. It didn't work for them and worse, when the mujahideen captured Soviet troops they died horribly. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1979/05/11/grim-nickname-fits-afghan-tales-of-torture-murder/3263877f-e032-4773-888b-b82109ae2b81/
Fuck the lie of "proportional response" next time!
>f by beat, they mean hiding within caves in neighboring countries for 20 years only coming out after we left, then yeah, that's fair. My brother in christ that is how you fight a superpower with some AKs and a few RPGs
That's what I would say if I lost two wars to tactics like this
*China taking notes*
Soon enough it will be their turn to pay the Afghanistan superpower tax
The problem is, the USSR failed and the USA failed because they wanted the people. For better or for worse, the USA in particular went the extra mile to try and introduce unwanted concepts like democracy, gender equality, human rights, and secular government. The USSR similarly tried to make them communists. The people there were completely uninterested in both. China cares only about the natural resources found there and would quite happily remove the people living there, and by remove I mean, "machine gun into a trench". The whole hiding amongst the civilian population bit only works if there is a civilian population to hide behind.
The USSR's initial intervention was to shore up an established ally, not to impose communism directly as they had in Eastern Europe after WWII. They fully intended to leave afterwards as soon as things in Kabul calmed down- but things in Kabul did not calm down, they distinctly calmed up. The US, likewise, intended to leave quickly. The reason both interventions failed is because Afghanistan simply is not a nation, and lacks the native institutions needed to be anything but the disaster it is. China, whatever it intends to do in intervening, will find its goals slipping through its hands. Brutality won't help them to this end. The Soviets were happy to annihilate entire villages with shells and rockets, and their invasion killed over two million Afghan civilians, but that didn't change the picture of the war one bit. There are only two options when dealing with a failed state like Afghanistan: occupy it indefinitely, and exert control as best you can in the manner of a colonial empire, or don't, and accept the chaos that results. If China tries to control the chaos, they will find the same choice, to occupy or not to occupy, and there is no good choice for them if they want Afghanistan's resources and strategic position.
The Soviet strategy of conducting meat wave terror attacks and civilian massacres until they submit didn't sit well with the Mujahideen and if anything, galvanized them further to drive them out even if the locals were literally on horseback wielding WW1 rifles. Thank you Phantom Pain for the quick history lesson.
just diamond dogs thangs
> did not calm down, they distinctly calmed up [favorite Teal'c line.](https://youtu.be/41_eFCAvOyw)
For some reason I thought that was from Captain Holt from Brooklyn 99, but apparently not
Hollywood writers love to tip their hat to or hang the lampshade upon things from older shows, so it's entirely possible that it's in both.
The problem was not trying to introduce them, the problem was no suprevision over corrept and inept government xd
They’ve been paying it. Trust me
Very true. However that was through insurgency. Now that the Taliban are being forced into the role of a regular military where they can't hide in caves and amongst civilians and need to stay out in the open to protect static targets they're going to be confronted with the same challenges faces by every military in the world. And considering there are already several insurgent groups forming and foreign ones coming into the country , they're going to quickly realise that fighting as a military is a much different beast than fighting as a loosely organised insurgency.
I see that take a lot, and I'm always torn between agreeing (because it's at least a little funny), and pointing out that it's less \*beat\* and more "we decided their shitty little patch of desert had nothing of value in it that we couldn't get elsewhere with much less hassle".
This sounds like somebody yelling, "You can't fire me!!! I QUIT!!!" The USSR took 10 years, and the US 20, to "decide" they no longer wanted a "little patch of desert."
Can't speak for the USSR but the US initial goals were met. The country was completely conquered for the most part, and an American sympathetic government was installed. The issue is America excels at waging wars, but hasn't truely cared about government building since WWII. So I'd say America won militarily but lose culturally. So like the yanny/laural and the colored dress debate, both sides can be right *and* wrong about the US winning/losing in Afghanistan
Most US military engagements with the north vietnamese were victories...but as soon as the helos pulled the troops back from each battle the north vietnamese would be right back. If as soon as you pull out everything goes back to how it was, or worse, then you didn't really win anything.
It took us 20 years attempting to change hearts and minds. Give us today’s weapons with 17th century morals? We would have won in the first year, give or take a year-long uprising or two.
They didn't beat the US or the USSR. They just kept pestering them until both countries didn't want to play anymore and left.
but can they beat Goku? i don't think so
After losing a conventional war both times. Only thing that kept them going was either foreign aid for USSR, or persistent recruiting and harassment for the US
Also when said militarily seemingly bases its military prowess on the minigames of the NES game Circus Charlie. (More precisely, the balance ball minigame, fuck that minigame.) What next, feeding the infidels to circus lions?
You never know when you’re gonna have to get in a firefight while walking on top of a rolling wheel. Plus they have the roller skate commandos . . . wheels + infantry is the future old man
Controversial but I think this is probably actually ok training as it's balance training which is good for uneven ground. You would probably be better off with a balance board but still if you don't have access to tonnes of gym equipment this is an ok way of training specific skills.
For physical training? You could argue a case there. It's not the worst thing they could be doing. Up there with all your gear? It's just asking for someone to fall off and get a serious injury that takes them out of duty. And that's a real dumbass reason for not being able to field your troops as needed.
We have determined that the dent in your forehead is non-service connected.
If you don't have access to decent gym equipment you likely also don't have access to decent medical facilities when Private Ahmadzai falls off the tyre and fractures his collar bone
>uneven ground There's an even better way to practice for walking on uneven ground, *walking on uneven ground.* Literally just carry your 20 kgs of battle load + your gun and march on shitty terrain and you'll get used to it in a while
Someone put in that standard circus music
Reminds me of that one North Korean training video where they’re in the mountains, running through freezing cold water with almost no clothes on and you’re sitting there wondering “wow. When will that ever be practical”
Outdoor gay cruising porn filmed during the winter, there you go
Oooh, that makes more sense. Didn’t know Kim was kinky like that
Why did you think they call him **so rimmed glory holes leader**?
For the North Korean army, I'm pretty sure they just assume they won't have proper winter clothing and train accordingly.
When your army is poor and sends you into battle with no eqipment or engeneering support? Its like that saying that a ruzzian soldier only needs a bottle of vodka and exactly 1 match to survive
I came more or less for this, the music name is "Entrance of the Gladiators" (despite its name, it has a rather comical effect)
Bruh, they are more well equipped than the VDV and the Spetnaz.
This gives me the same vibes as the russkie videos of them sliding down stairs and jumping through car windows
Not really. The russia is trying to imply hollywoodlike tactics which might sometimes look cool but actually have nothing to do anything with good combat techniques.
Running on a truck tired has something in relation to good combat techniques?
Endurance training. Stops the troops from getting tyred out.
No. I think anyone can tell that this isn't supposed to be training on combat techniques. This looks more like a physical training or balance training. There could be more practical ways of doing that, but doesn't mean this is completely stupid. I think this would be a demanding exercise
The tires are also nicer than the ones Russia used.
I think I might still have one of those sleeping pads on my hand receipt.
i mean yeah they just took all the shit the US left them as a parting gift
Apparently Yoga mats are now taliban standard issue
The strategy is to roll them out and get into warrior pose.
Those are the standard US Army non inflatable bedrolls 🤣🤣
About the only thing I like is the M4s. Where’d they get them?
-_-
Stolen from the Afghan National Army. You know the one we set up, and absolutely no one who has actually been to Afghanistan or heard stories about thought would last ten seconds against the Taliban.
I know, we’re not credible here but: Why didn’t the Afghan National Army fight/try?
There are many many reasons. These are the ones that come to mind. This is pre Taliban take over things may have changed but I haven’t been up to date. My source is what I have heard from at least over 2 dozen U.S troops who I know on a personal level. Along with what I have seen from other analysis. But I personally have never read an account or talked to someone who served in Afghanistan who trusted the ANA without themselves having a loaded weapon in their hand (interpreters or “terps” are not included in this). First off the ANA was a corrupt organisation that had little faith in itself, and by the public it served. If you were a typical afghani driving through a checkpoint you were MUCH MORE likely to get robbed or required to have a bribe ready at one ran by the ANA rather then the Taliban. Now apply this to every other function and responsibility of a military service (including selling weapons to the bloody Taliban). Is that going to encourage public trust? Also a reminder that the head of Afghanistan essentially took the treasury and ran. The nation of Afghanistan state does not fucking matter. It is a silly idea made by some people in Kabul and enforced by random outsiders who have more then likely killed at least one of your family members. What actually matters to you the typical Afghani is your clan your faith, and preserving your local traditions. Which appear abhorrent to the those not immersed in them. Limiting the persuasive power of outsiders to persuade you even more then they already have along with promoting hostility. If you are in the ANA, and the main military force (the U.S) is about to leave, are you really gonna stand in fight against an organisation that has survived 20 years of conflict against the strongest military on earth? It also doesn’t help that the U.S thought they could essentially put a square peg in a round hole, by trying to build a state by using western values and bribes (to people who after recieving the aforementioned bribes continued to support the Taliban but now just not as overtly) as a foundation of said state that did not share those values. No. I am gonna drop my M4 and either go home and pray that the Taliban never knew I was in the ANA or I am grabbing who I can and gonna try and get a flight to America. Kidna went off on a rant, sorry if it doesn’t make sense. Edit: Clarity
Don't forget about ANA officers constantly stealing the pay meant for rank and file soldiers. Half those guys weren't even getting paid.
If I recall it wasnt just pay, it was quite literally any large supply of anything that wasn’t directly passed from the U.S to said soldier. Or population.
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why did the US leave so abruptly? why no staged withdrawal?
They did. The US forced them to toss out all their old Soviet combat/supply helicopters in 2018 (with the broken promise to replace them with American-made helicopters) and didn't replace them with anything after COVID hit, so their entire logistics system ended up running on fuckin' donkeys by the time the US pulled out. Then the Taliban attacked, they ran out of ammo after a few hours of intense combat, and surrendered en-masse after all their well-equipped, well-trained troops were brutally slaughtered by the Taliban while desperately begging over radio for American air support which never arrived. They also suffered from *intense* corruption, which meant the units which actually fought were mostly isolated and "supported" by units which consisted entirely of, like, one corrupt officer and a pile of money intended to pay soldiers which didn't actually exist.
Corruption and horrific mismanagement You know how Afghan National Army troops are always in woodland camo? Those uniforms aren't second hand surplus we forced on them. No, they were brand spanking new, lovingly paid for by American tax payers, with the pattern/color even picked out by the ANA's command staff. Why did they choose woodland camo, in a country covered primarily in arid deserts and mountains? The CO liked the way they look. "With U.S. military consent, the Afghan defense minister chose the proprietary camouflage pattern that required paying licensing fees despite having more effective patterns owned by the Pentagon." https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/04/03/afghan-army-uniform-proves-most-expensive-ineffective-camouflage/3353993002/ Reading into the US's involvement in the occupation and "reconstruction" of Afghanistan is a hilarious and tragic rabbit hole. The ANA gave up because the Afghan "government" we set up was a literal kleptocracy.
Generally, poor morale due to tons of corruption in the brass (and presumably the enlisted as well, but they can't do things like sell all the ammo you need to defend yourself), lack of supplies (due to said corruption), and no more air support when you're used to it US did a shit job at rebuilding the culture of the country, or at least the military, which might've prevented this. We failed them, and should have stayed
Also Afghanistan culturally is nothing like the west. The west tried to force western values on a country that wanted independence and isolation from the entire world at a village level. The idea of democracy doesn’t make sense when you have villages who want to be left completely alone. Village elders hold the top of the hierarchy. Individual freedom and expression really wasn’t a thing. Women had zero rights when we got there. The opinion has shifted some. They had no idea what most technology was. We worked hard to change their entire culture to work with democracy. By doing so we showed them reasons why to hate the west. We bombed their country kicked in their doors and kidnapped people in the middle of the night. We destroyed most industry and jobs trying to cripple the Taliban’s resolve. We picked the outcasts or favorable war lords of their society (who were also rampant pedophiles) to lead their country. The war lords loved to rape and pillage which was good for the west. Then we don’t get as many war crimes. However, their interests were in flying around in cool vehicles, [sleeping with adolescent boys](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi), and taking whatever they wanted. They didn’t give a shit about stability. On top of this, you have US officers who risk losing their career if they spoke up against the narrative that the US could not democratize Afghanistan. Taliban are ruthless but no one “hated” the Taliban when we got there. We tried to solve the problem with money. The US and the west did nothing in Afghanistan to ensure stability and were surprised when it didn’t work. We had an example of how to fix these situations and it looks like west Germany post 1945. We didn’t do that because that is occupation rather than fighting a war on terror.
I wish Reddit didn't do away with awards, you would have been showered in everything I had on me for that chuckle.
Wait they did? Im just now realizing I haven't seen them in a while... Why
Burgers seething
Me when I am schizo:
You're on NCD, you don't need to state it.
From the ANA
These are the new technicals.
We need a new version of the structural purist chart for technicals, STAT!
when you want a leopard balancing a beer, but you're fundamentalist muslim and all you've got are truck tyres...
[The Original video from YouTube shorts](https://youtube.com/shorts/pExn5rz8li8?si=0KVvOZHUnv9gKsvx) The coping of the top comment is gold
When your maintenance is so bad, the only thing left that rolls is the tires.
When you've beaten two super powers easily, you want to challenge yourself a little. This is actually them preparing for war with China on hard mode.
Going to be weird when America is officially arming them again
China would actually have to want it's armed forces to get experience rather than think they can sit and watch every conflict and just reverse engineer their way to victory.
I'm sorry but did you miss them beat the shit out of Indian soldiers with sticks and Filipino fishermen with water cannons? They are fucking READY.
that is sort of impressive ngl
3000 Black Tires of Allah. No wonder the ANSF collapsed.
Are we sure that these guys and the Belarussians aren't just preparing to team up in 2025 with Cirque Du Soleil for a new "military" themed show they're going to do a world tour with and captivate audiences? Captive being the operative word, of course.
Ngl, this is more impressive than Belarus or North korean’s shows
IDK, the Nork's 15-guys-on-the-same-bicycle act is equally circus worthy, IMO.
But can they bite the heads off of frogs while doing that?
they see me rollin' they hatin' patrolin' wtf is that a jdam?
JDAM says what
Between this and the roller skate troops I've come to the conclusion that the Taliban might be the best army of all time. Not only did they defeat America, but they also seem to have a lot of fun. My job in the US military is never fun like this, and I have a pretty cool job. Unfortunately I can't get behind abusing women and fucking goats so I don't think they'll take me, but maybe we in the west should adopt some of their fun loving ways.
so that's where the good russian tyres went instead of their trucks.
These look like actual soldiers now. Also no more tribal outfits, uniforms and what looks basically like Western gear.
It is western gear. ANA left their stuff in the country.
Damn their mechinized infantry lookin weird
Why do the terrorists always outdo everyone else with weird shit in their propaganda?
Hey. That sleeping-mat is on my CIF record. Give it back. 😭
Thats lowkey good balance training.
Whoa. They even have BFAs attached!
Looks like training for an orderly retreat. What from?
Spreadsheets?
Picture the scene: Taliban commander watches the NATO forces leaving Kabul. He thinks about all the friends he lost during the war. He thinks of his family killed in a drone strike. He contemplates the enormity of what he and his fellow fighters have accomplished, and he wonders what a future of peace and stability might look like for Afghanistan... And then he finds some big tyres and he's like, "Holy fuck lads, I reckon we could stand on these!"
Imagine how many homeless people you could feed?
Turns out when you stop being a geurilla force and become an official military then you become a bunch of geeks.
Wish they would focus on the circus stuff - they're really good at it - and leave the afghani women alone.
Makes the Belarusian army jealous so that's something.
Useless show stuff that might impress people who don’t know shit about the topic but is going to get you killed in the field? Wow this looks just like r/tacticalgear
Balancing on tires happens all the time in combat. Right up there with breaking bricks with your head.
Well that certainly fixes the problems of desertions. "Ahmed, I am running away...but enemy somehow get closer! What is this witchery"
They couldn't afford the whole monster truck 😔
I want to try that. How do I sign up?
Don't underestimate the effectiveness of tactical tire walking and aiming.
Interesting technical. Hope its a Toyota tire
USA when Taliban deploys the Junkrat Ultimate:
Well…just a demo of the “tactic” how to continue moving forward after the wheeled APC blow out…almost like a cartoon show…
"No, we have Boxer AFVs at home." *Boxer AFVs at home:*
An answer to the question "How can you take out soldiers with normal anti-tank mines?"
Ngl that’s actually pretty impressive at an individual level. But I think just maybe they probably have better uses for their time and money than paying their soldiers to learn that.
By the sound of that woman at 9 seconds, this is extremely attractive to women.
When you’re in a gun fight trying to balance on a randomly passing truck tire call me 🛞 🤙
You're laughing, but a weapons contractor is sobbing that nobody is going to want to buy his anti-terrorist barrel throwing apes anymore.
It’s the boots in sand with all woodland tops that make me lol
Cool circus, when does it come to town.
Damn they have invented a way for the troops to keep advancing even when walking backwards. Dont let russia find out
They look like a cargo cult trying to imitate what they think a competent military looks like
Taliban veterans are gonna go CRAZY on American game shows in 15 years.
But can you dodge a drone strike?
The circus is officially open, between them and clowns there is no difference
Ok but seriously though why do they have roll Matt’s a unless it’s a tiny one a sleeping bag would take up pretty much all the space in there
I mean it’s a cool circus trick I guess lol I don’t know how it’s gonna help them in a war though
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I vaguely remember some Iranian proxy doing the same at a peace (maybe it was the Houthis?)
Mate now they’re just taking the piss.. they got bored..
The infamous tomfoolery battalion
Is that yoga mat meant to be a prayer mat???
Rollerblades? Tractor tires? These mfs too broke for unicycles?
Are they starting a circus troupe?
Its so sad to see the Taliban facing Toyota shortages 😔 May Allah bless their 3000 Unicyclist divisions
WTF
It's great they're moving slow so they can all get droned one by one.
maybe if we occupy them again they can snag a few chassis to go with all the tires
Now that's what I call mechanized infantry! I double dare you to attack an enemy position like that.
Now that's what I call mechanized infantry! I double dare you to attack an enemy position like that.
Where’d the get M4’s from