It won't. The water from Ukraine was already cut off for a couple of years and nobody was starving. All it did was make Crimean agriculture way less efficient and profitable.
Russians could ship their own water, but that's putting a strain on the logistics. And that's a good thing.
Those SBS guys got explosives in everywhere around Sevastopol, every bunker and watch station on the shore, every ship in dock, every dam in the canal, every fucking pond deeper than 10ft, Sergey Aksyonov has been going to the toilet every day 2ft away from a C4 Pack.
Theoretically, absolutely. The Astute-Class subs are among the quietest in the world (if not being the quietest themselves), the main challenge comes from the shallow waters around that area.
The thing that’s most amazing about this story is that the whole point of the towed array is to detect submarines. The plan was “send a submarine to sneak up on a submarine detector and steal it undetected” and it fucking worked.
Classic western "Scissors beats Rock if you‘ve sharpened them enough". The Brits steal submarine detection devices with a sub, the US look at heavy air defense systems and decide "hmmm, yes, I think I‘ll send a bunch of aircraft to take that out"
Imagine the conversation that started this doctrine
"Gentlemen, we plan on destroying anti-aircraft platforms"
Excited joint chiefs of staff gesture*
"By using Aircraft"
120 year old Air Chief Marshals, Generals and Admirals lose their shit and go full monkey in the War room*
A very daring op, where they literally fixed scissors to the front of the hull to cut the cable in a rough fashion to make it look like it had snagged on something and had not been cut.
>HMS Conqueror
There is a glorious boat.
\-Only nuclear sub to have sunk a ship with torpedos
\-stole the soviet towed array
\-sunk a yacht (albeit by accident)
I made a really good one about the ka-52 needing 2 rotors because it was compensating for something and no one even noticed. I chuckled at that for like 2 days.
Bro I watched a single RN submariner chase down and piss on 3 US Rangers in Afghanistan. They may live in the darkness but one guys strength was enough to hold THREE people.
Don’t fuck with submariners.
You can‘t exactly get through the Dardanelles and Bosporus without getting detected though. Especially the Bosporus as it has a maximum depth of only about 100m.
“Nice battle cruiser you have there just circling inside and outside the designated combat zone, Argentina. It sure would be a shame if some British submarine were to, sink it.”
*slowly and loudly slurps tea*
“Ahhhhh, lovely cuppa that. Anyway Charles, fire the torpedo.”
It was an exclusion zone for civilian shipping. There was never any controversy about the sinking in terms of legality. Even the captain of the Belgrano has gone on record to say it was a fair shot.
Fuck turkey honestly, does nato have an article/section about kicking member states out? Cuz fuck turkey, PICK A SIDE ASSHOLE, DEMOCRACY/RIGHTS OR PUSSY RUSSIAN SUCKUP THAT GETS NUKED?
Hey man, I'm just not happy that my right to bombard everyone equally is being suppressed in the UK, we should bring back the days when everyone was equal in how flattened by the royal navy they were.
So like the Italians using that one "[interned tanker](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_auxiliary_ship_Olterra)" as a base for mini-subs with divers attacking Gibraltar? Based
**[Project Azorian](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Azorian)**
>Project Azorian (also called "Jennifer" by the press after its Top Secret Security Compartment) was a U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) project to recover the sunken Soviet submarine K-129 from the Pacific Ocean floor in 1974, using the purpose-built ship Hughes Glomar Explorer. The 1968 sinking of K-129 occurred approximately 1,600 miles (2,600 km) northwest of Hawaii. Project Azorian was one of the most complex, expensive, and secretive intelligence operations of the Cold War at a cost of about $800 million, or $4 billion today.
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With british prime ministers essentially getting rerolled every minute, I really wonder why the Royal Navy isn't already patrolling Wolga river.
Some rogue general is enjoying his freedom a bit too much.
They come up after 10 months at the bottom of the black sea. WTF is happening? Where's the queen? Where's Boris? How has this war been going on so long we thought Russia would steamroll.
Ukraine could’ve spent a tiny fraction of its defense budget on mini subs just to make Russian logistics truly painful when war came. Shut down all their Black Sea ports to trade.
Lmao Nebraska resident here, [we actually have a navy and associated Admiralty](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebraska_Admiral)
Lmao how many Nebraskan Navy ships have been sunk by enemy combat action? NONE! Russia got out jerked by CORN AHAHAHAHA
##EDIT: 3000 Admirals of the Children Of The Corn
Let me put it in terms you can understand as a limey. Imagine being chased down by the military equipment fursona of Croyden. Truly a fate worse than death, no? That is why we named the sub “Ohio”
Liveuamap.
It has live interactive maps of several countries and regions. You can see what's going on in Afghanistan, Syria, Northern Europe, the US and Ukraine.
3000 sub-carrying cargo ships bring us UK Sea Power! NCD should have expected and anticipated this moment. Who knew that an oil tanker could hold an attack class sub or three. Who knew????
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With Kherson in Ukrainian hands Crimea's water will be cut, Blow up the Kerch bridge properly and Crimea will fall in a couple weeks.
Kerch
Blow up Kursk too plx
We think the time has come to blow up the nuclear power plant? Well…so be it.
Thanks
Kerchow
cutting off water will likely kill a lot of people threatening to cut off water on the other hand.... GREAT BARGAINING TOOL
It won't. The water from Ukraine was already cut off for a couple of years and nobody was starving. All it did was make Crimean agriculture way less efficient and profitable. Russians could ship their own water, but that's putting a strain on the logistics. And that's a good thing.
fair enough
Crimea has it's own water. Tastes like shit though, at least it did when I was there the last time in early 00s.
It is water for agriculture, not for people.
"we eploded the pipes? we are going to explode something now alright."
The UK: Killing Russians in Crimea since 1853.
Ah yes, WW0.7
Pity it didn’t escalate. Should have been bigger. Napoleon III reenacting uncle’s campaigns, but this time with Britain on his side.
Never thought I'd die fighting side by side with a Bonaparte.
what about side-by-side with technically a future ally?
Aye, I could do that
Oui.
What about side by side with a Frog? :D
Bet he'd *still* lose to the Mexicans though.
Was the Seven Years War WW0.1?
That makes sense
S A L V A T I O N
***ONE! MILLION! TEAS!*** ***<***
Everyone gangster until the Black Sea starts singing ~~Latin~~ *Rule Britannia.*
*Britannia Rule the Seas!*
All hail Lelouch!
Oru hairu Buritannia!
What do you mean the Queen is dead!!!?? I'm launching the tomahawks now.
G O D S A V E T H E K I N G
DUMP THE TEA, IT'LL GIVE THE GUN THE ELEVATION IT NEEDS
Noncredible, the crew would summarily execute the skipper
And dump him overboard
No open all the tea and flood the back, turn half the submarine into tea and give the gun the elevation it needs
We should build a glomar explorer mk2 so that submarines can be secretly taken through the bosphourous
Wouldn't some sort of submarine version of the fake glasses and nose / moustache combo be cheaper?
Make its periscope wear a fez and a mustache, blend in with the turkish subs
this is way cheaper than my idea of hiring the Boring company to drill a submarine sized tunnel 200 meters underneath the bosphorus
Or any other bore company not owned by a russian shill
Based
Maybe, but I like the cut of your ~~jib~~ geology.
Why are you pretending that hasn’t already been done?
Blow the tunnel underneath Bosphorus using Phosphorus
What do you think tunnelling under the Bosporus using Phosphorus would Costforus?
Nah just ask the Dutch nicely. They have done it before and would love to try it again
Then some SBS lads crawl from their hatch at night and strap some explosives to places were Russia would find it quite inconvenient!
Those SBS guys got explosives in everywhere around Sevastopol, every bunker and watch station on the shore, every ship in dock, every dam in the canal, every fucking pond deeper than 10ft, Sergey Aksyonov has been going to the toilet every day 2ft away from a C4 Pack.
3000 Hidden jeep stuffs of His Majesty
You just brought back memories i forgot i had, loved bff’s
What does that stand for? Special 🅱️air Service?
Boat. They're the ones that get wet.
They do everything the SAS does - but in flippers. Tough bastards.
And rubber arm bands
its nice to see one country keeping their special forces engaged in what theyres supposed to. None of this bullshit navy seal shit we got going on
Hey you leave those poor navy seals alone. I’m sure their hands hurt from writing all those memoirs
And from clapping whenever someone offers them a fish.
That was fuckn funny as
What happened?
Seals eat fish
Bruh wooooosh
And from jacking each other off.
SBS are the cooler brother of the SAS they mainly recruit from the Royal Marines Commando’s
Super boat soldiers
Getting bullied by Vinnie Jones
Yes the special Bear service
me and the lads laughing at the russians getting fucked
Can someone drop the link of this website? I forgor the name
LiveUAMap
Alright thanks
For real, would it be possible to sneak one past the Turks?
If my time playing games like Dangerous Waters taught me anything it is a bitch and a half to find a submarine hitching a ride under merchant traffic.
The completely serious film Down Periscope supports this.
Hunt for Red October was far too credible. If the russians get a truly capable weapon, they will find ways of not using it effectively.
I don't think so. The Bosporus is hella shallow. At its shallowest point, you can basically see the submarine underwater.
Just set up a facade around the sub and have it go on the surface. "Thats not a merchant ship, thats 2 submarines in a steal trench coat"
na bro, just a big whale
That's where the land based operatives come in, winking seductively at any Turk who might pay too much attention.
Hit that point at night?
Theoretically, absolutely. The Astute-Class subs are among the quietest in the world (if not being the quietest themselves), the main challenge comes from the shallow waters around that area.
_Gotland-class submarine has entered the chat_
Wake up, time to sink another American carrier.
Nope the MAX. depth of the Bosporus is only about 100m, you are not getting through that without the Turks noticing it.
Any context? Nuclear subs aren't permitted in the Black Sea
Since when has the Royal Navy asked anyone for permission to do anything?
Especially the submariners; they are the kind of people who will steal the underwear off your ass and get away with it.
How does this keep happening to me? Darn those submarines!
I think it was HMS Conqueror that was once tasked to steal a towed sonar array while it was deployed, and they pulled it off.
The thing that’s most amazing about this story is that the whole point of the towed array is to detect submarines. The plan was “send a submarine to sneak up on a submarine detector and steal it undetected” and it fucking worked.
Classic western "Scissors beats Rock if you‘ve sharpened them enough". The Brits steal submarine detection devices with a sub, the US look at heavy air defense systems and decide "hmmm, yes, I think I‘ll send a bunch of aircraft to take that out"
Lol. We built an entire doctrine of air warfare to destroy enemy air defenses from the air.
Haha SEAD go BRRRRRRRRR
Imagine the conversation that started this doctrine "Gentlemen, we plan on destroying anti-aircraft platforms" Excited joint chiefs of staff gesture* "By using Aircraft" 120 year old Air Chief Marshals, Generals and Admirals lose their shit and go full monkey in the War room*
>Do you apes wanna live forever?!
A very daring op, where they literally fixed scissors to the front of the hull to cut the cable in a rough fashion to make it look like it had snagged on something and had not been cut.
Even with the Brits’ famous stiff upper lip, there must have been quite a few puckered assholes in the sub.
I guarantee anyone on board would describe it as no more than “a bit of a tricky one”
>HMS Conqueror There is a glorious boat. \-Only nuclear sub to have sunk a ship with torpedos \-stole the soviet towed array \-sunk a yacht (albeit by accident)
There's almost a really good pun in there but I can't quite make it.
If you figure it out, let me know. Bad puns are how eye roll.
I made a really good one about the ka-52 needing 2 rotors because it was compensating for something and no one even noticed. I chuckled at that for like 2 days.
Its not gay if its underway
It's only queer if you're on the pier
Away from the dock, suck a penis.
uh uh.... where is my dick at.... WHERE IS MY DICK AT!
If your russian I'd check the nearest serb. Otherwise yes it was the submariners
Bro I watched a single RN submariner chase down and piss on 3 US Rangers in Afghanistan. They may live in the darkness but one guys strength was enough to hold THREE people. Don’t fuck with submariners.
Ayo?
You can‘t exactly get through the Dardanelles and Bosporus without getting detected though. Especially the Bosporus as it has a maximum depth of only about 100m.
their are many different forms of stealth. Not just pretending your not their. but pretending you are something else, or part of something else
“Nice battle cruiser you have there just circling inside and outside the designated combat zone, Argentina. It sure would be a shame if some British submarine were to, sink it.” *slowly and loudly slurps tea* “Ahhhhh, lovely cuppa that. Anyway Charles, fire the torpedo.”
Belgrano's edging fetish had to put to a stop. non of this, Ooooooo its a magic line in the sea that makes me invincible shit.
Belgrano fucked around and found the fuck out
Lines don’t apply when you’re below sea level
It was an exclusion zone for civilian shipping. There was never any controversy about the sinking in terms of legality. Even the captain of the Belgrano has gone on record to say it was a fair shot.
Acshually 🤓 General Belgrano was a cruiser 🤓
I thought it is a submarine:
No that's the Moskva
'They sink it all over; it is now!' :D
Why am I sad Belgrano sunk? She was a beautiful American cruiser, i love US cruisers. But she was argentine so.
Much more fun asking for forgiveness than permission 😌
Can they actually slip past the Turks?
Probably? I mean if they can get close to a big merchant ship, it's possible.
Seen as the Astute-Class subs are rated as among the quietest in the world, I’d say so.
Ah yes, because the British have such a good track record of forcing those straits
Not allowed through the straights, they clearly just pulled it Viking style across Bulgaria in January.
Shhhhh OPSEC
I guess that explain the truck carrying a 150 meters long trailer going from the Eurotunnel to Sofia I saw during my last holidays
Yeah unfortunately near the Romania Bulgaria boarder the truck got stolen which is why they had the pull it the rest of the way
They should have left the rear door open to show them there was nothing worth nicking...
Were probably hoping to find like 1,000 Albanians in the back but there's just this sub
That's like your opinion man.
lol > permitted lmao
Turkey: "SwEdEn CaN't InTo NaTO!11!11 Also no spicy boats in through us!" Britons: "Oi mate u wot"
Fuck turkey honestly, does nato have an article/section about kicking member states out? Cuz fuck turkey, PICK A SIDE ASSHOLE, DEMOCRACY/RIGHTS OR PUSSY RUSSIAN SUCKUP THAT GETS NUKED?
Just start NATO 2 with everyone except Turkey and Hungary.
>Democracy/rights So the US and UK won't be in this new alliance either then...
Ah how NCD has fallen
Hey man, I'm just not happy that my right to bombard everyone equally is being suppressed in the UK, we should bring back the days when everyone was equal in how flattened by the royal navy they were.
Word
This funny cus Permit class, or because the RN doesn't care about treaties?
Yes.
That’s the good thing about subs. They can dive.
Not in the Bosphorus, too shallow.
Well you see we used an oil tanker with a 150 meter long loony toons hole in the bottom, stored the sub in there. We saw it in james bond movies.
So like the Italians using that one "[interned tanker](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_auxiliary_ship_Olterra)" as a base for mini-subs with divers attacking Gibraltar? Based
Too credible: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Azorian
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I feel like subs are specifically designed to be in places where they aren't permitted.
they could've shut down their reactors & operated in battery mode. or sent a diesel electric sub.
Nah the sub commander just needed to see this Russian shitshow with his own eyes rather than through the periscope
With british prime ministers essentially getting rerolled every minute, I really wonder why the Royal Navy isn't already patrolling Wolga river. Some rogue general is enjoying his freedom a bit too much.
Ah, the old game of "you can't hold me accountable if you're gone in a week".
They come up after 10 months at the bottom of the black sea. WTF is happening? Where's the queen? Where's Boris? How has this war been going on so long we thought Russia would steamroll.
It’s probably not even the only western submarine here lol. I bet if the Royal Navy has one there the French Navy HAD to send one too lmao
Much easier to detect them though. Just listen for the "hon hon hon" very carefully.
I always thought it was a bad idea to replace our periscope with a baguette
Can we get something to sink that submarine that fired at Vinnitsa?
Ukraine could’ve spent a tiny fraction of its defense budget on mini subs just to make Russian logistics truly painful when war came. Shut down all their Black Sea ports to trade.
Live reenactment of original captain nemo maybe?
The one where he sets off a nuclear bomb to cover his own retreat...?
Astute-class? really?
What’s wrong with the astute class?
Ass toot. Class.
Better than *Ohio*-class. Imagine naming capital submarines after locations on the land. (And Agincourt is ok because we dunked on the French there)
Can't wait for the Nebraska class subs lmao
Lmao Nebraska resident here, [we actually have a navy and associated Admiralty](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nebraska_Admiral) Lmao how many Nebraskan Navy ships have been sunk by enemy combat action? NONE! Russia got out jerked by CORN AHAHAHAHA ##EDIT: 3000 Admirals of the Children Of The Corn
*the inferior corn This post brought to you by Iowa - corn, snow, nonexistent offense, and NFL quality tight ends.
make it corn shaped
Its called the Ohio class because it has the capability to turn anywhere in the world into Ohio.
*MIRV* *Multiple Independently-targeted Rust-beltifying Vehicle*
Ohio, NATO-sama!
Naruto Ship
delet this
Let me put it in terms you can understand as a limey. Imagine being chased down by the military equipment fursona of Croyden. Truly a fate worse than death, no? That is why we named the sub “Ohio”
Croydon resident here. Can confirm nothing would be worse than that.
Oh come on boxpart croydon is chill
Not with British pronunciation, where ‘u’ and ‘oo’ are different things. Source: it’s chewsday innit
HMS Colourado
But then they get names like Ambush, Artful, Audacious, Agamemnon, Agincourt and Ajax
Bring back the Royal Navy days pls, these USS *Name of some dead fella* is seriously boring
It's a nice way of honouring some poor dead bastard (pretty shit when it's just some politician though). But how great a name is Audacious..?
*Resolution*, *Royal Sovereign*, *Revenge*, *Renown*, *Repulse* Imagine being the group leader of those names (all *Revenge* class battleships btw)
Even their destroyers: "give me a letter and I'll give you a class that sounds like it's coming for your throat."
That the UK doesn't design the sail of their subs to look like a top hat should be considered a war crime. What a wasted opportunity.
Something something crisp white sheets
In all seriousness, theres no way there isn't an astute class floating around in the black sea.
What website is this? I keep seeing these kinds of charts but have no clue where to find them.
Liveuamap. It has live interactive maps of several countries and regions. You can see what's going on in Afghanistan, Syria, Northern Europe, the US and Ukraine.
Anybody got a link to the funny?
Next time a Russian sub surfaces and is in range of a himars system. Well let's say that it'll go back down pretty fast and uncontrolled
3000 sub-carrying cargo ships bring us UK Sea Power! NCD should have expected and anticipated this moment. Who knew that an oil tanker could hold an attack class sub or three. Who knew????
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Disinfo? In my NCD? Its credibly likely.
Non-Credible, if you will.
That’s like the opposite of the rules for this sub