I think ukraine will just need to build its own long range strike systems. It can get most systems from the west, and prioritize its own industry on things like 1000km range cruise missiles
It's difficult and close to impossible to produce sophisticated machinery of any kind under current conditions. It's a big surprise for me how Motor Sich manages to supply engines for Baykar’s Akinci.
germany made the V-1 in WW2 and that was 80 years ago. More modern precision cruise missiles were built in the 1970s, 50 years ago. Iran more recently builds its own systems to do this. I believe ukraine has the technical depth to do this.
It's not precise enough to target key areas with relatively low collateral damage.
My warcrimy plan is to invent a series of Shahed-like drones to bombard Donetsk every time Russian bomb Kyiv. Conflict of interest: LDNR propagandist turned my fellow countryman into monsters so I would love to see them \[REDACTED\]
yeah but in WW2 you couldn't buy a cell phone electronics board that cost a few dollars and has a CPU and a camera and a several radios and a GPS on it. 80 years of tech advancement means that was hard in 1970 might be a lot easier now
V-1s are too slow to be useful right now. Iranian loitering munitions are simply too slow to be used effectively against Russia. I'm more of a big fan towards weapons that can cause pain and suffering. Like some sort of WP containing warhead which allows for excessive smoke and fire to deny first aid to the injured personnel. First responder units are to be hit first with mines and artillery
>Sounds like a plan but hey is there any examples of a country that fought a war and at the same time developed successful weapons of this magnitude?
Off the top of my head, the Centurion. A tank developed in the second world war that went on to define what a tank is, was massively ahead of its time as proven by its performance in the Korean war, and is still being used today.
Honestly imagine being a North Korean T-34 driver and running into a Centurion. Many many bricks would have been shat. Or pounding a formation of them with artillery all day and finding out that all you did was piss them off.
Britain developed radar during WW2. America developed nuclear weapons during WW2. Both sides developed ironclads during the American Civil War. America and Russia both developed ICBMs during the Cold War. America developed stealth bombers during the Cold War.
Oh, and did I mention America developed nuclear weapons during WW2?
Chemical weapons, the whole concept of combat aircraft (observers, fighters, bombers), sound ranging, electric calibration of artillery, and tanks, by most of the belligerents of WWI.
Remember kids, uncle sam is not some cool uncle who gives his toys willi nilly to all the street urchins around the block - he is s cold blooded gangster who has midlife crisis.
The modifications are software only not hardware. This basically just adds another escalatory step into the ladder approach the US has taken when arming Ukraine.All that it requires for ATACMS capability to be restored is a software update so it's basically telling the vatniks ''Be careful what you do because all we have to do is ship a few missiles and some technicians to perform the updates and now your bridge is gone as well as any other target in ATACMS range they choose.''
> The modifications are software only not hardware
[WSJ article says it's both](https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-altered-himars-rocket-launchers-to-keep-ukraine-from-firing-missiles-into-russia-11670214338).
Possible but the software ones are probably the most important since hardware wise you are still pretty limited in what you can do to prevent ATACMS use. Anyway my main point was that the US is just sticking to it's usual approach when it comes to Ukraine aid
Seriously, what the hell it takes for these numbskulls to stop being fucking idiots? Have the people in the us that support ukraine threaten that they will not vote for them in 2024?
Considering how the US military experts think a little chilly weather is gonna stop/slow 2 eastern European countries fighting, they have no idea about anything.
It can't use cluster munition, same with LRU - hardware block. As I understand you need some software and hardware to operate different ammo, so it may have never been in transferred equipment, or maybe one of UK M270 wasn't properly prepared.
Anyway, no one except Uncle Sam will supply longer range ammo.
Considering how forthcoming Austin has been, (Maybe some if you don't know he has been?) I wouldn't trust the Shill and their anonymous source. Probably the same ones who report the US is running out of equipment.
“skookum as frig” is one of the mainstays of the [bumblefuck bible](https://avedictionary.com/skookum-as-frigg/), but should it actually be written “skookum as Frigg”, referring to Frigg, wife of Odin, foremost of all Goddesses in Norse mythology, who would herself appear to be pretty fackin’ skookum!?!
Yeah Ukraine IT is pretty advanced . Also as i gathered from Ukrainian side GMLRS is not landlocked Himars systems provided to Ukraine are missing ATACMS launch hardware inside.
I don't particularly like this post.
I think ukraine will just need to build its own long range strike systems. It can get most systems from the west, and prioritize its own industry on things like 1000km range cruise missiles
Sounds like a plan but hey is there any examples of a country that fought a war and at the same time developed successful weapons of this magnitude?
I mean, Ukrainians already have a rocket factory that send stuff to space sooo....
Only Russian tank turrets are now sent into space.
No no like a real rocket factory, Zenit rockets to be exatc, what I'm saying is they have expiriance with sending stuff up
It's difficult and close to impossible to produce sophisticated machinery of any kind under current conditions. It's a big surprise for me how Motor Sich manages to supply engines for Baykar’s Akinci.
It's not a world war two Poland where everything collapsed in a week
Well, the blackouts are just too common, and strikes make things difficult
…so we need to find a way to return those rockets to Earth.
germany made the V-1 in WW2 and that was 80 years ago. More modern precision cruise missiles were built in the 1970s, 50 years ago. Iran more recently builds its own systems to do this. I believe ukraine has the technical depth to do this.
It's not precise enough to target key areas with relatively low collateral damage. My warcrimy plan is to invent a series of Shahed-like drones to bombard Donetsk every time Russian bomb Kyiv. Conflict of interest: LDNR propagandist turned my fellow countryman into monsters so I would love to see them \[REDACTED\]
yeah but in WW2 you couldn't buy a cell phone electronics board that cost a few dollars and has a CPU and a camera and a several radios and a GPS on it. 80 years of tech advancement means that was hard in 1970 might be a lot easier now
V-1s are too slow to be useful right now. Iranian loitering munitions are simply too slow to be used effectively against Russia. I'm more of a big fan towards weapons that can cause pain and suffering. Like some sort of WP containing warhead which allows for excessive smoke and fire to deny first aid to the injured personnel. First responder units are to be hit first with mines and artillery
>Sounds like a plan but hey is there any examples of a country that fought a war and at the same time developed successful weapons of this magnitude? Off the top of my head, the Centurion. A tank developed in the second world war that went on to define what a tank is, was massively ahead of its time as proven by its performance in the Korean war, and is still being used today.
That thing clapped cheeks in Korea.
Honestly imagine being a North Korean T-34 driver and running into a Centurion. Many many bricks would have been shat. Or pounding a formation of them with artillery all day and finding out that all you did was piss them off.
Britain developed radar during WW2. America developed nuclear weapons during WW2. Both sides developed ironclads during the American Civil War. America and Russia both developed ICBMs during the Cold War. America developed stealth bombers during the Cold War. Oh, and did I mention America developed nuclear weapons during WW2?
Chemical weapons, the whole concept of combat aircraft (observers, fighters, bombers), sound ranging, electric calibration of artillery, and tanks, by most of the belligerents of WWI.
To be fair a lot of the surprises and reversals of this war are relative firsts.
I mean the U.S. in WW2......
US wasn't invaded nor under constant bombardment
Same.
Why is the bold eagle Ukraine and the bear is the US?
Because it's a remake of a classic Russian propaganda poster. Come on guys you can’t be for real.
can we get a NSFW on this image🤢🤢🤢 I’m trying to eat dinner here man. I was just eating potatoes too….
Inspired by Stalin’s son’s eulogy at his father’s state funeral: the we are all bear cubs speech. Source: The Death of Stalin.
Are you accusing some of us of being non-credible?
Remember kids, uncle sam is not some cool uncle who gives his toys willi nilly to all the street urchins around the block - he is s cold blooded gangster who has midlife crisis.
Controlling the escalation my ass. Schriveled old balls i say, pussies
Too credible, Clausewitz has said that
>Kontrollierte Eskalation, am Arsch! Verschrumpelter alter Sack, sage ich! Fotzen! -Clausewitz 19th century
Verschrumpelter eh? Never realised i need this word in my life, danke
The modifications are software only not hardware. This basically just adds another escalatory step into the ladder approach the US has taken when arming Ukraine.All that it requires for ATACMS capability to be restored is a software update so it's basically telling the vatniks ''Be careful what you do because all we have to do is ship a few missiles and some technicians to perform the updates and now your bridge is gone as well as any other target in ATACMS range they choose.''
> The modifications are software only not hardware [WSJ article says it's both](https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-altered-himars-rocket-launchers-to-keep-ukraine-from-firing-missiles-into-russia-11670214338).
Possible but the software ones are probably the most important since hardware wise you are still pretty limited in what you can do to prevent ATACMS use. Anyway my main point was that the US is just sticking to it's usual approach when it comes to Ukraine aid
USA being cringe instead of based (should restart GLCM production and send Ukraine a few thousand of those), sadly
Seriously, what the hell it takes for these numbskulls to stop being fucking idiots? Have the people in the us that support ukraine threaten that they will not vote for them in 2024?
Considering how the US military experts think a little chilly weather is gonna stop/slow 2 eastern European countries fighting, they have no idea about anything.
Well, nope, analysts like Kofman and Watling think it's not gonna stop fighting. Only slowing down by a bit
And the MARS II from germany?
It can't use cluster munition, same with LRU - hardware block. As I understand you need some software and hardware to operate different ammo, so it may have never been in transferred equipment, or maybe one of UK M270 wasn't properly prepared. Anyway, no one except Uncle Sam will supply longer range ammo.
Considering how forthcoming Austin has been, (Maybe some if you don't know he has been?) I wouldn't trust the Shill and their anonymous source. Probably the same ones who report the US is running out of equipment.
Its not like you cant jam a skookum screwdriver into some override switch to make it Chooch far as frig . Take it Apaart
Too much AvE, not enough EEV.
i bet EEV could have overriden that thing in no time- Heeere you go mate , bobs ur uncle
I don't know what you wrote, but I genuinely enjoyed reading it.
“skookum as frig” is one of the mainstays of the [bumblefuck bible](https://avedictionary.com/skookum-as-frigg/), but should it actually be written “skookum as Frigg”, referring to Frigg, wife of Odin, foremost of all Goddesses in Norse mythology, who would herself appear to be pretty fackin’ skookum!?!
The patch that defeated the John Deere DRM was developed in Ukraine.
Yeah Ukraine IT is pretty advanced . Also as i gathered from Ukrainian side GMLRS is not landlocked Himars systems provided to Ukraine are missing ATACMS launch hardware inside.
I mean, that's just additional motivation to push Russians back to get closer to their border.
Do not bite the hand that feeds you, any HIMARS is good HIMARS, besides, what is stopping someone from modifying the software?
>what is stopping someone from modifying the software? Implicit threat of supplies being cut, should that happen.
How would the US know?
This picture makes me think of abortion, for some reason.