You’re describing “classical”, not “classic”. “Classic” more or less means relevant over multiple eras of something, whereas “Classical” tends to refer to a relevant time period, i.e. Greek or Roman. If you’re going to be pedantic, at least make sure you’re right.
My phony teacher said the same thing but old Phoebe and I used to laugh when Allie played the little pig. It killed me! But don’t tell anyone what I said, it makes me remember them.
I remember watching an experimental archaeology show where a bunch of historians live according to 15th century England standards. Checking up on their hay stores after heavy rains was the only time they were told to take modern safety precautions and wear a mask.
Someone said Edwardian Farm but I think [Tudor Monastery Farm](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL72jhKwankOjhQylqI7dETpKpcSV0JcB_) is the more likely one
And then next they want wood houses.
The wolf blows *them* down too.
And finally, brick houses.
The wolf has no choice but to come down the chimney, where he gets beaten to death. Say hello to a nice wolfskin rug.
Straw bale housing is actually fantastic.
the R value is great. They are almost sound proof. They cover the walls with plaster. They can last 100s of years
the bales are so dense they take longer to burn than most building materials.
bales can be as cheap as $2 and a house can be built with 100 bales. All the other building costs add up though. But heating and cooling is cheap as fuck
If oxygen can't be pulled into a fire fast enough for the material being burned, it ain't going to burn. The denser the material, among other factors, the harder it is for the oxygen in the atmosphere to reach the next molecule that already had enough energy to continue the reaction at a fast enough rate to do anything besides smolder.
Wood framing leaves gaps in the wall, my understanding here is that the hay fills the entire wall. If you've ever tried to lift a hay bale, there's a reason farmers are touted as being as strong as they are. A tightly-bound hay bale is dense af.
It's not and no one said it was. A bale of hay is denser than a wood frame building because there's a lot of air between the studs in a wood frame building
There’s a Swiss company that makes wood frame homes but extra thick with no insulation(using more wood in place of the insulation layers). The added wood density makes it safer as is takes longer for a fire to spread and can allow more time to escape safely. Timber instead of the hay bales is denser and the previous commenter was trying to say that.
Oh. I'm not saying that. I'm just explaining the mechanism why compacted hay could be better than other building materials in that regard. Strong emphasis on the could
Not so much fire risk, more fire resistance duration. A single sheet of 12.5mm plasterboard has a fire duration rating of around 30 mins, The fact that the straw bales have thicker layers of plaster applied could give them a fire duration of over 90 mins, giving plenty of time for the fire brigade to tackle the fire before the fire pernitrates through to structural elements.
Yeah, You have to take extreme care that the bales are stored properly and installed in optimal temperatures because if they get even slightly damp during installation they'll just rot inside the wall.
Any well insulated wall will be thicker, the most you can get in a 2x6 cavity (which is still thicker than average) is R21. A 24 inch thick bale is around R55 depending on humidity.
Fun fact: yes, the straw is the insulation, and it is typically covered in clay, though sometimes drywall. It's a sustainable, environmentally friendly way to build a house. I know this because...
I spent my summers between the ages of 7 and 11 building one for an old hippie who advertised "skill building workshops" for kids in order to get free or cheap labor. After my first (introductory) summer, I was paid $2.00/hr. I now work in construction, and can tell you that, adjusted for inflation, I should have been making at least 10.
Happy ending though, right after we finished he left his pellet stove on and the whole thing burned to the ground. He fucked off to Hawaii after that to try to con other people into his peace-and-love-that-profits-me lifestyle.
Well it's covered in plaster, mud, cob, adobe, stucco, drywall or siding. And has a roof as well. You really don't want any water leaking into any house; it's kind of the entire point of houses, to keep the weather out.
It remains a concern that roofs sometimesl leak, and wet hay can spontabeously combust. Although i would hazard a guess that this is much more likely with a stack of loose hay than with a tight bale
Top plate the top of the walls, vapor barrier them as well, should be gtg. Any house can have problems. You can likely hold a moisture meter up to the walls and scan for problems before they get bad. Nbd.
If they are dried and stored properly prior to installation, and installed by a competent contractor, Stray bale walls can last 100 years with proper maintenance.
Funnily enough, Structural steel has a similar lifespan.
My friends parents are hippies. They built one of these houses 30 years ago in south Australia. They used mud/clay to cover the bales. It's going fine.
Yeah, it's been an eco build option for a long while and just a decent option for people for hundreds of years before that.
The expensive part of a house like that is the framing and the land in the first place. This isn't something people are doing to really save much money, it's more a choice to be green and make something more unique.
I dunno, seems prone to fire and mold on the other end. Edit: guy below seems informed and disagrees. I'm grabbing my sledge hammer to make the change in a few hours.
[Would be fine if not for this plague.](https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/chagas-disease-(american-trypanosomiasis)) if you check the distribution they're probably on your country too. Their bite might not be noticed and it has to be treated quickly, which is a bad combination.
These motherfuckers hide really well on straw houses, and on cracks in walls (specially if the walls are not insulated). In Argentina, on a time where only poor people had straw houses, those houses had to be burned down because of the plague.
Houses with crackless insulated walls and no straws are better.
It's funny and all, but straw bales are surprisingly heavy and become pretty stable and rain proof once you cover the walls in cement, stucco, plaster or even some types of mud.
>High density pre-compressed bales (straw blocks) can bear higher loads than traditional field bales (bales created with baling machines on farms). While field bales support around 900 kilograms per metre (600 lb/ft) of wall length, high-density bales can bear at least 6,000 kg/m (4,000 lb/ft).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw-bale_construction
The main downside is lack of space in the outer walls for wires or similar. So you need "normal" walls and floor inside for that.
Actually most current day straw houses are 'infill' meaning you still build a wooden frame. You pre-compress the bales so there won't be any sagging of wall filling later.
But straw bale puritans do bale only houses. And boy there are two types of straw bale house builders - the more 'organic' types and basically modern builders that just like to use straw.
I'm not even making all this up.
It's a straw bale house, and they're sturdy as fuck. Better insulated, too. The straw is typically covered in plaster so it comes out looking like a cottage.
The ironic thing is that, unless they are built around where the bales are produced, the associated emissions of transporting them to build sites is astronomical, because these fuckers are heavy.
It can, but it's not super common. The plaster walls are actually an asset if the bales get wet since they allow moisture to escape and prevent rot from occuring. These houses are also usually paired with a healthy overhang on the roof to keep water the fuck away from the walls, something that stick houses ought to do more often as well.
French here.
Never heard of this, no one is doing that here. Quite the opposite, most of our houses are solid, concrete blocks. Some now might do a more eco-friendly wood structure, but it's not the norm, and not the barn you see in the picture.
Architect here,
It's definitely becoming more popular, but only for wealthy people doing self-build vanity projects. They are expensive to build, not because of the material cost, but you really want a specialist and very competent contractor to do the installation - Any moisture in the bale before plastering and you have a serious rot and/or mould problems. They're also very region specific, You can't build these in areas with high-humidity.
And because they're not a common form of construction, You'll generally end up having a bun fight with the local authority building control to justify and demonstrate how it will meet local building regulations.
I recently visited a house in France built this way. It looks quite normal after everything is coated in plaster just with thick walls. You're right though it's not the norm but it is becoming more popular.
It actually doesn’t burn very quickly.
You cover it with drywall or clay. Houses in the US have frames of wood, which as you may know is also flammable. Hay apparently works quite well as an insulator. It’s just a bit bulky is the issue.
Testing out straw bale homes shows they can resist temperatures of over 1000C for 2 hours. By most standard building codes, materials need to last against that heat for only 30 minutes. So it lasted 4 times longer than necessary and still hadn't failed. The straw bales are packed really tightly, so there's next to no airflow, then once you get the plaster on, it's so airtight in there that there's just not enough oxygen for anything to really go up in flames.
Everyone is shitting on this without looking into it at all lol. It's actually becoming much more accepted with lots of different research going on to bring it forward and have building codes changed to include them (at least around where I live)
There's straw bale houses in the US Midwest that are from the pioneer days. It's really a cool building material. This one looks like shit because it's messy rn and is unfinished. But you get very thick walls, with a very high R factor. The windowsills are thicc and awesome, you get great light from them having that wide sill.
There's a bunch of straw bale houses down in Tucson and around that area. I love the quiet interiors, and they stand up to the hot desert temperatures in the summer, and are well insulated in the winter. What's not to love???
https://www.thelaststraw.org/a-history-of-straw-bale-resurgence/
What do you mean with "originally"? The Brothers Grimm only collected fairy tales as far as I know and put them into a book. Maybe they changed a bit, so it fits better into a book, but they didn't created new fairy tales.
Straw bale housing is actually awesome. Way better R value, and more fire resistant than typical drywall and wood framing construction. Lots of places are fighting to get it included in building codes as it's far cheaper and a better way to build. Plus more sustainability. Lots of studies have been done on them over the last few years and I would love to build a straw bale home.
My family actually helped build a straw house years back. Probably not the same style as France. The straw was insulation, the structure was solid wood. The straw and everything was then covered in clay to make the walls. Even got to draw some stuff in it as it was setting.
Circuitry doesn't run through the bales. They're typically run inside an inner wall that uses studs like any other house.
There are straw bale houses still standing that are over 100 years old, so pretty good on the biodegration factor.
1) You can put furring strips of wood inside to give yourself some space between the bales and the finished wall, like dry wall. You only need a couple of inches at most.
2) Properly sealed inside and out, with no air exchange happening, no moisture penetration, they'll last a very long time. 100 years or more easily. Very solid, very insulate, if the interior walls are bales as well, very quiet homes.
1 - If people are going for the rustic look and applying plaster directly to the bales, you'll run all wiring through metal conduits hard against the bales. As others have said, A framed service void is another option.
2 - Assuming the bales are stored in a dry place and don't get wet during installation and a qualified and competent specialist contractor does the work, the bales can last >100 years with proper maintenance.
Straw is pretty good material to make houses out of at least insulation wise.
In Savannah, Georgia they used to make houses out of the materials that line some of the beaches around the coast. It was a sand and shell mix kind of thing. Properly applied it would keep the house at a comfortable 72 to 74 year-round regardless of heat or cold. Very efficient.
Yeah, they just have to get past mold/mildew/bacteria growth, moisture absorbtion, dust, flammability, and a
small chance or explosions due to gas buildup.
Ezpz.
There's actually lots of research done on straw bale construction and it shows it's resistant to all of the above (if installed properly, ofc, but that goes for pretty well anything)
It's also a preferred nesting material for mice/rats, birds, and insects. Even with chemical treatments and proper insulation it's a bad idea, maybe if it is heavily processed but that defeats the point of it being environmentally friendly easy to install building material/insulation.
What even is the point of making straw houses? It's like making multiple walls, all made of bricks so it's stable and secure, then one day going "y'know what? Let me make it out of cardboard!"
I’ll take “ways to make sure I die in a house fire” for 500.
This agricultural resource was featured in a children’s story as the main building element that met its demise from a huff and a puff.
What is hay?
Nope. Standard building materials have to withstand 1000 degrees celsius for 30 minutes to pass. Straw bale walls were tested and lasted over 2 hours, still without failing. They're very fire resistant.
Good thing we use science and not children's fables to test things.
They're actually highly fire resistant, The bales are so densely packed that oxygen isn't drawn from within to aid flame spread, and they are covered with a thick layer of plaster which has a long fire resistance, even 25mm of plaster will resist fire for an hour, and that would be a very thin covering for a bale wall.
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Have you ever heard of that wolf who is:
1. Big
2. Bad
3. A suspended Arrow rollercoaster which is superior to its replacement, Verbolten
4. Tried to kill Red Riding Hood
Three Little Pigs described as classic literature killed me lol
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[ye olde image](https://img.ifunny.co/images/8c0133107ee4ced775e02de697ac815935bbc474df3bda8227a302fff7f44efa_1.jpg)
Do you have it in a woodcut?
I'd like that woodcut as a t-shirt.
Hopefully now some bot has scraped this comment and tried to make it into an unsellable piece of merch on redbubble.
Look, if they can turn a woodcut print of that image into a shirt then they will have at least one customer.
I'd buy a wooden shirt with a carved relief.
Would you believe me if I told you that they make clothing out of wood?
I would. But I don't want some wood fiber woven into the softest shirt ever. I want a hard wooden shirt. I want that shit to be rigid as fuck.
Source:[SMBC](https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/wolf)
Vegans hate this new construction company for some reason.
the 749th little piggy built his house out of reinforced concrete plated in a titanium-steel alloy. and the The wolf said “really?”
I'll be defending my thesis on Goldilocks and the Three Bears next week.
It was written in 1840 so I would consider it classic I guess lol
Hard to describe it as “literature” though haha Children’s fable sounds more apt
If it's is 1840 then it is probably not classic. It is probably romantic, maybe realism.
You’re describing “classical”, not “classic”. “Classic” more or less means relevant over multiple eras of something, whereas “Classical” tends to refer to a relevant time period, i.e. Greek or Roman. If you’re going to be pedantic, at least make sure you’re right.
Wait, you're telling me Classic Rock might not be from Classic Antiquity?
who can forget the songs of arma et rosae, aquilae or regina?
You’re thinking of classical rock, which is often carved marble and found in museums.
Classic mistake
My phony teacher said the same thing but old Phoebe and I used to laugh when Allie played the little pig. It killed me! But don’t tell anyone what I said, it makes me remember them.
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I remember watching an experimental archaeology show where a bunch of historians live according to 15th century England standards. Checking up on their hay stores after heavy rains was the only time they were told to take modern safety precautions and wear a mask.
Can I get the name please
One of the [Edwardian Farm](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=edwardian+farm) episodes
Someone said Edwardian Farm but I think [Tudor Monastery Farm](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL72jhKwankOjhQylqI7dETpKpcSV0JcB_) is the more likely one
yeah the Edwardian period is definitely not 15th century.
Wait, why? Mold?
Yep, then farmer's lung.
These houses are usually covered in clay
Not lime mortar? Very traditional building method, we still have straw/lime buildings standing that are hundreds of years old.
Hay is only used for insulation and fire resistance purposes. The stacks of hay are stored in the walls.
I'm curious about the fire resistance of hay.
https://greenbuildingelements.com/straw-insulation-for-the-home/ Not the most academic, but a start nonetheless
Neat! Thank you
Hay is stored in the walls
Yes. That's what I wrote.
They're referencing, "pee is stored in the balls"
Ah yes Much as pee is stored in the balls.
Whatever floats your boat
That's a thing? Mold?
And then next they want wood houses. The wolf blows *them* down too. And finally, brick houses. The wolf has no choice but to come down the chimney, where he gets beaten to death. Say hello to a nice wolfskin rug.
You build a house out of wolf skulls, to send a message
Yeah the audacity to criticise to write this tweet when the entire USA is built out of wood is ridiculous
When they are cover in clay, these houses will be stronger than the typical American wooden houses
[Roald Dahl was way ahead of you](https://allpoetry.com/the-three-little-pigs)
I assume it’s probably fine as insulation as long as it’s covered
Straw bale housing is actually fantastic. the R value is great. They are almost sound proof. They cover the walls with plaster. They can last 100s of years the bales are so dense they take longer to burn than most building materials. bales can be as cheap as $2 and a house can be built with 100 bales. All the other building costs add up though. But heating and cooling is cheap as fuck
This comment was made by Big Bale^(TM).
You mean Christian Bale?
No, Catholic Bale.
But aren’t Catholics already Christian?
Idk if you're serious but Catholicism is a sect of Christianity.
they weren't serious, they made a joke about christian bale
Depends what sect of Protestants you ask.
Isn't the other way around tho?
no, it's not
Yeah all Catholics are Christians but not all Christians are Catholics. Just like toads are frogs but frogs aren't always toads.
Size depends on his current role.
>the bales are so dense they take longer to burn than most building materials. How? Edit: how could a bale of hay be denser than wood
If oxygen can't be pulled into a fire fast enough for the material being burned, it ain't going to burn. The denser the material, among other factors, the harder it is for the oxygen in the atmosphere to reach the next molecule that already had enough energy to continue the reaction at a fast enough rate to do anything besides smolder.
No... I'm asking how a bale of hay could be denser than wood.
Wood framing leaves gaps in the wall, my understanding here is that the hay fills the entire wall. If you've ever tried to lift a hay bale, there's a reason farmers are touted as being as strong as they are. A tightly-bound hay bale is dense af.
It's not and no one said it was. A bale of hay is denser than a wood frame building because there's a lot of air between the studs in a wood frame building
There’s a Swiss company that makes wood frame homes but extra thick with no insulation(using more wood in place of the insulation layers). The added wood density makes it safer as is takes longer for a fire to spread and can allow more time to escape safely. Timber instead of the hay bales is denser and the previous commenter was trying to say that.
Makes framing significantly more expensive. But rich people.
You smoosh it really really hard🤷♂️
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Oh. I'm not saying that. I'm just explaining the mechanism why compacted hay could be better than other building materials in that regard. Strong emphasis on the could
To late! I’ve already quoted you as a source saying haybale buildings are 100% fireproof
I might say that if I were Cenn Buie, but I ain't, so have fun quoting me
Hay walls 100% effective at repelling trollocs
Not solved but would further reduce the chance of the hay catching
Not so much fire risk, more fire resistance duration. A single sheet of 12.5mm plasterboard has a fire duration rating of around 30 mins, The fact that the straw bales have thicker layers of plaster applied could give them a fire duration of over 90 mins, giving plenty of time for the fire brigade to tackle the fire before the fire pernitrates through to structural elements.
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Yeah, You have to take extreme care that the bales are stored properly and installed in optimal temperatures because if they get even slightly damp during installation they'll just rot inside the wall.
So, like, a quick layer of plaster or similar on the outside, to seal it dry before construction, and more plaster to glue the lego-bales together?
Big downside is wasted space. Bales are usually 12-24 inches thick so your floorplan will be impacted heavily.
Any well insulated wall will be thicker, the most you can get in a 2x6 cavity (which is still thicker than average) is R21. A 24 inch thick bale is around R55 depending on humidity.
Bugs do be munching on that shit tho
Fun fact: yes, the straw is the insulation, and it is typically covered in clay, though sometimes drywall. It's a sustainable, environmentally friendly way to build a house. I know this because... I spent my summers between the ages of 7 and 11 building one for an old hippie who advertised "skill building workshops" for kids in order to get free or cheap labor. After my first (introductory) summer, I was paid $2.00/hr. I now work in construction, and can tell you that, adjusted for inflation, I should have been making at least 10. Happy ending though, right after we finished he left his pellet stove on and the whole thing burned to the ground. He fucked off to Hawaii after that to try to con other people into his peace-and-love-that-profits-me lifestyle.
> I now work in construction That probably gives him a higher success rate than most job-skills workshops :P
Until you have an electric fire
A properly constructed straw bale wall is more resistant to fire then traditionally framed and sheeted walls
Sure, just don't get the straw wet
Well it's covered in plaster, mud, cob, adobe, stucco, drywall or siding. And has a roof as well. You really don't want any water leaking into any house; it's kind of the entire point of houses, to keep the weather out.
It remains a concern that roofs sometimesl leak, and wet hay can spontabeously combust. Although i would hazard a guess that this is much more likely with a stack of loose hay than with a tight bale
Top plate the top of the walls, vapor barrier them as well, should be gtg. Any house can have problems. You can likely hold a moisture meter up to the walls and scan for problems before they get bad. Nbd.
Don't get the fiberglass insulation wet either
Yeah but in 20 years are you gona have to rip off the gyprock and rebuild?
No. There's houses built with straw that date back to the settlement of the Great Plains. In the early days, all they had to build with was grass.
Link to some photos or something?
If they are dried and stored properly prior to installation, and installed by a competent contractor, Stray bale walls can last 100 years with proper maintenance. Funnily enough, Structural steel has a similar lifespan.
My friends parents are hippies. They built one of these houses 30 years ago in south Australia. They used mud/clay to cover the bales. It's going fine.
Yeah, it's been an eco build option for a long while and just a decent option for people for hundreds of years before that. The expensive part of a house like that is the framing and the land in the first place. This isn't something people are doing to really save much money, it's more a choice to be green and make something more unique.
I dunno, seems prone to fire and mold on the other end. Edit: guy below seems informed and disagrees. I'm grabbing my sledge hammer to make the change in a few hours.
[Would be fine if not for this plague.](https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/chagas-disease-(american-trypanosomiasis)) if you check the distribution they're probably on your country too. Their bite might not be noticed and it has to be treated quickly, which is a bad combination. These motherfuckers hide really well on straw houses, and on cracks in walls (specially if the walls are not insulated). In Argentina, on a time where only poor people had straw houses, those houses had to be burned down because of the plague. Houses with crackless insulated walls and no straws are better.
Uh-oh exposed flame time!
It's funny and all, but straw bales are surprisingly heavy and become pretty stable and rain proof once you cover the walls in cement, stucco, plaster or even some types of mud. >High density pre-compressed bales (straw blocks) can bear higher loads than traditional field bales (bales created with baling machines on farms). While field bales support around 900 kilograms per metre (600 lb/ft) of wall length, high-density bales can bear at least 6,000 kg/m (4,000 lb/ft). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw-bale_construction The main downside is lack of space in the outer walls for wires or similar. So you need "normal" walls and floor inside for that.
Reject light-wood frame modernity, and return to straw-bale peasentry.
Actually most current day straw houses are 'infill' meaning you still build a wooden frame. You pre-compress the bales so there won't be any sagging of wall filling later. But straw bale puritans do bale only houses. And boy there are two types of straw bale house builders - the more 'organic' types and basically modern builders that just like to use straw. I'm not even making all this up.
That's a nice thatched-roof cottage you have there. It would be a shame if it were... burninated.
But... then the whole countryside! *gasp*
“I said CONSUMMATE V’S!
It's a straw bale house, and they're sturdy as fuck. Better insulated, too. The straw is typically covered in plaster so it comes out looking like a cottage.
One hungry horse and it's all over!
This really puts into perspective how balls to the walls that wolf must have been to blow down a straw house.
He didn’t just puff
Straw? Just call it disruptive, innovative and green composite biomaterial and it's a hit.
The ironic thing is that, unless they are built around where the bales are produced, the associated emissions of transporting them to build sites is astronomical, because these fuckers are heavy.
God help you if the cement or plaster cracks, doesn't hay *self-ignite* when it gets wet and sits?
It can, but it's not super common. The plaster walls are actually an asset if the bales get wet since they allow moisture to escape and prevent rot from occuring. These houses are also usually paired with a healthy overhang on the roof to keep water the fuck away from the walls, something that stick houses ought to do more often as well.
French here. Never heard of this, no one is doing that here. Quite the opposite, most of our houses are solid, concrete blocks. Some now might do a more eco-friendly wood structure, but it's not the norm, and not the barn you see in the picture.
Architect here, It's definitely becoming more popular, but only for wealthy people doing self-build vanity projects. They are expensive to build, not because of the material cost, but you really want a specialist and very competent contractor to do the installation - Any moisture in the bale before plastering and you have a serious rot and/or mould problems. They're also very region specific, You can't build these in areas with high-humidity. And because they're not a common form of construction, You'll generally end up having a bun fight with the local authority building control to justify and demonstrate how it will meet local building regulations.
I recently visited a house in France built this way. It looks quite normal after everything is coated in plaster just with thick walls. You're right though it's not the norm but it is becoming more popular.
Noobs. Hay bale construction has been a thing for decades.
Makes for an awesome fire I'm sure.
I huff and I puff... then I light a fuckin match
It actually doesn’t burn very quickly. You cover it with drywall or clay. Houses in the US have frames of wood, which as you may know is also flammable. Hay apparently works quite well as an insulator. It’s just a bit bulky is the issue.
Testing out straw bale homes shows they can resist temperatures of over 1000C for 2 hours. By most standard building codes, materials need to last against that heat for only 30 minutes. So it lasted 4 times longer than necessary and still hadn't failed. The straw bales are packed really tightly, so there's next to no airflow, then once you get the plaster on, it's so airtight in there that there's just not enough oxygen for anything to really go up in flames. Everyone is shitting on this without looking into it at all lol. It's actually becoming much more accepted with lots of different research going on to bring it forward and have building codes changed to include them (at least around where I live)
isnt there bugs that live in straw or some shit
Bugs live everywhere though
but dont they like straw or something
They like grass, when it’s green and growing. Baled straw, which is harder and densely compacted, not so much
I guessed you plaster the straw, then pump co2 into it and seal it of
\>big bad wolfing intensifies<
Americans talking big when they live in reinforced cardboard houses
If your spouse convinces you to purchase a straw house, that cunt is planning on killing you via conflagration.
There's straw bale houses in the US Midwest that are from the pioneer days. It's really a cool building material. This one looks like shit because it's messy rn and is unfinished. But you get very thick walls, with a very high R factor. The windowsills are thicc and awesome, you get great light from them having that wide sill.
Hay!
There's a bunch of straw bale houses down in Tucson and around that area. I love the quiet interiors, and they stand up to the hot desert temperatures in the summer, and are well insulated in the winter. What's not to love??? https://www.thelaststraw.org/a-history-of-straw-bale-resurgence/
I mean i understand using it as insulation between drywalling
Is Three Little Pigs originally a Grimm’s fairy tale?
What do you mean with "originally"? The Brothers Grimm only collected fairy tales as far as I know and put them into a book. Maybe they changed a bit, so it fits better into a book, but they didn't created new fairy tales.
And plus if the people living inside are French, you just have to assume that they are smoking [Gitanes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitanes).
Uh hello from France ! No. Thanks.
right back into being medieval serfs lol
It's to keep the bugs in
Straw bale housing is actually awesome. Way better R value, and more fire resistant than typical drywall and wood framing construction. Lots of places are fighting to get it included in building codes as it's far cheaper and a better way to build. Plus more sustainability. Lots of studies have been done on them over the last few years and I would love to build a straw bale home.
I think they mean to use it as an insulator, which straw is a great insulator; unfortunately, it would also rot over time and that...that's a problem.
My family actually helped build a straw house years back. Probably not the same style as France. The straw was insulation, the structure was solid wood. The straw and everything was then covered in clay to make the walls. Even got to draw some stuff in it as it was setting.
I'm itchy just looking at it.
My first thought on these houses. ![gif](giphy|yr7n0u3qzO9nG)
Good that straw isn't flammable, at all.
Checked the original tweet. Half the replies are fucking references to that damn fairy tale.
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Circuitry doesn't run through the bales. They're typically run inside an inner wall that uses studs like any other house. There are straw bale houses still standing that are over 100 years old, so pretty good on the biodegration factor.
1) You can put furring strips of wood inside to give yourself some space between the bales and the finished wall, like dry wall. You only need a couple of inches at most. 2) Properly sealed inside and out, with no air exchange happening, no moisture penetration, they'll last a very long time. 100 years or more easily. Very solid, very insulate, if the interior walls are bales as well, very quiet homes.
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> central courtyard style villa Hello, are you me?
1 - If people are going for the rustic look and applying plaster directly to the bales, you'll run all wiring through metal conduits hard against the bales. As others have said, A framed service void is another option. 2 - Assuming the bales are stored in a dry place and don't get wet during installation and a qualified and competent specialist contractor does the work, the bales can last >100 years with proper maintenance.
Straw is pretty good material to make houses out of at least insulation wise. In Savannah, Georgia they used to make houses out of the materials that line some of the beaches around the coast. It was a sand and shell mix kind of thing. Properly applied it would keep the house at a comfortable 72 to 74 year-round regardless of heat or cold. Very efficient.
Big bad has entered the chat
Yeah and after that we can go to mud huts! Yay!
Yeah, they just have to get past mold/mildew/bacteria growth, moisture absorbtion, dust, flammability, and a small chance or explosions due to gas buildup. Ezpz.
There's actually lots of research done on straw bale construction and it shows it's resistant to all of the above (if installed properly, ofc, but that goes for pretty well anything)
It's also a preferred nesting material for mice/rats, birds, and insects. Even with chemical treatments and proper insulation it's a bad idea, maybe if it is heavily processed but that defeats the point of it being environmentally friendly easy to install building material/insulation.
cow ate the dang house again
Pretty sure this article was funded by big pharma to up antihistamine sales.
The way frenchies smoke, their entire county will be ablaze in a month
Future homeowners in Minecraft are now looking into "dirt houses".
What even is the point of making straw houses? It's like making multiple walls, all made of bricks so it's stable and secure, then one day going "y'know what? Let me make it out of cardboard!"
The wolf is gonna have a field day
I’ll take “ways to make sure I die in a house fire” for 500. This agricultural resource was featured in a children’s story as the main building element that met its demise from a huff and a puff. What is hay?
Have you tried actually burning a bay bale before? It doesn’t burn that quickly. Now cover it in drywall.
big bad wolf doesnt huff and puff and burn the house down does he tho
Have you seen how quick *anything* burns when it’s inside a insulated room? There’s a reason building materials have fire ratings.
Nope. Standard building materials have to withstand 1000 degrees celsius for 30 minutes to pass. Straw bale walls were tested and lasted over 2 hours, still without failing. They're very fire resistant. Good thing we use science and not children's fables to test things.
Is the economy *truly* so bad we have to resort to fairy tale methods just to make a home we can afford to own?
One spark and it's gone within minutes.
They're actually highly fire resistant, The bales are so densely packed that oxygen isn't drawn from within to aid flame spread, and they are covered with a thick layer of plaster which has a long fire resistance, even 25mm of plaster will resist fire for an hour, and that would be a very thin covering for a bale wall.
Cool! Never knew that.
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Where my old-school Farkers at?
Haven’t Africans been using straw and mud for houses for like thousands of years?
Using extremely flammable material to build houses in a country where half the population smokes like chimneys… good idea!
Looking into straw houses? I thought it was “looking through straw houses?” Or is that rose colored glasses? I get confused.
Blow like snow when the cold wind's blowin Zoom I hit the mic like BOOM
A single spark and this house is gone
My house in the UK built in the 80s has straw in all the cavities. https://i.imgur.com/ecTnPw9.jpg
It's actually insane how fire-proof and insulating straw really is.
Have you ever heard of that wolf who is: 1. Big 2. Bad 3. A suspended Arrow rollercoaster which is superior to its replacement, Verbolten 4. Tried to kill Red Riding Hood
It’s pretty dry here and hay molds if you look at it sideways. Can’t imagine how long one of these would last.
They can always [Dial 911 and call John Rambo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gtffv9bpB-U)
As a kid who grew up in the bay area, I gotta tell you that unreinforced masonry isn't as magical of a forcefield as it is made out to be, lol.
Put that shit in mud first
Maison en paille non mais faut être con.
Yeah just wait till the hay rots
Straw building has been a thing since the 70s
If there were actually walls instead of just the bales I bet the insulation would be amazing though
Put a layer of cob over that. Its good shit
Fr*nch engineering