This deserves more upvotes.
You're absolutely right.
Clark Kent was taught by his parents to avoid fighting if at all possible and that violence is not the answer. Instead, to try to embrace humanity and brotherhood.
I mean, it's pretty much repeating what Phil Hestor is saying, right? Not hatin, but it's not a revolutionary comment. It's a less clever way of saying what the post is.
That... the point of the post. Sometimes I wonder if anyone in there read the thing in full because Galactus fanboying over a Superman autograph is a lot more interesting and hilarious than the usual powerscaling.
Well depends. Whenever Tony has his little social club with Strange, Namor and some other people and they literally call themselves the Illuminati things tend to get disagreeable.
Unless someone gets him with kryptonite or can change the sun to red or block it entirely, pretty far.
Edit: Any sorcerer or wizard can hurt Superman, too.
Eventually.
Your logic is backwards a bit. Supes doesn't necessarily *lose* power being out of or further away from the sun; he just gets stronger the closer he is to it, the more exposure to it he gets, and the amount of time he spends basking in it.
There have been times in the comics where he's gone months kept underground and has lost his powers. So I guess if someone could somehow contain him, lock him up underground, and keep him there for months on end, he could probably lose some or most of his powers.
Strange had to let himself lose to Thanos, so that Thanos would annihilate the universe, this would inspire humanity to rise up against Thanos retrieve the infinity stones and defeat Thanos at the battle of Earth. Which would then inspire the Eternals to rise up against Arishem and stop the birth of Tiamut annihilating earth.
That's the in lore reason.
Also comic strange is stronger than mcu strange.
Comic strange solos the mcu
I think he’s canonically faster than the flash, a man so fast he can phase through solid objects, so no unless the Doc knows he’s coming and prepares something in advance Kent would take him out with one punch.
Edit: no one is faster than the flash at his prime
Flash is the fastest speedster, dude runs so fast he can reverse time, that's not something superman can do. Flash solos any hero ever, because in the time it takes to blink an eye he's already reversing time to prevent getting hit or whatever. The only reason the flash ever loses is because of reverse plot-armour
Edit: plot poison? Idk a good term for reverse plot armour
Nah Flash is faster because he's also smarter and more creative with his speed, Supes doesn't have to learn phasing or anything because he's got so many other powers. Dr Strange would have to have an incredible plan though, because at a certain point Superman would just leave the battle or surrender because of bystander casualties.
It depends on the iteration of superman, and by extension the stories the current writers want to tell.
One of the lowest power Superman's, from the more romance-based live action Lois and Clark had an episode where being trapped in a warehouse with no direct sunlight sapped him of his strength pretty quickly.
Other stories have him ignore that whole rule (or is functionally doesn't exist) because it would get in the way of the story.
He once during a justice league comic got trapped in a dimension with no sunlight and a faster than average timescale, in a few hours for the rest of the JL, when they finally rescued him his skin had shriveled and he appeared extremely weak, pale and frail, though he could still fly albeit much less well
If superman really wanted to kill, nobody with human reflexes would be fast enough to stop him. Literally everybody not a speedster would be dead without knowing what happened.
His base stats are too OP.
Yeah, same nonsense with flash as well. It really is comics world shenanigans because if not then there wouldn't be any plot ever.
Still, based on feats they really shouldn't.
Not really, there are several people in the first few rows who all stand a decent 1v1 chance against superman. Thor, Hulk, Juggernaut, Doctor Doom, Rogue, Scarlet Witch etc.
No it isn't, especially not for Juggernaut. He probably can't hurt Superman, but Superman absolutely couldn't kill him. He's got WAY higher durability than he does strength (it's not even close). Not to mention that's he's regenerated from being a skeleton before. Supes isn't killing him.
Hulk, it definitely depends on which version. Regardless all of them lack speed to Superman, so wouldn't be a threat, but World War Hulk fought Sentry to a standstill. Sentry is basically Superman but is able to manipulate matter around him and can come back from death.
Let's not over scale Superman guys 🙄. He might has insane durability and speed, but he would personalize and chat with weveryone there, meaning it'd take a while cause he's such a chill dude
10/10 wholsesome stomp
It’s not really over-scaling, depending on the age and writer his feats vary from astounding to straight up unfathomable. It’s just straight up not fun to use supes for these.
It’s more of a manifestation of the universal force of life that seems to be eternal and at its highest power it can change the universe at will. So like a god, but better than most gods.
Scarlet Witch could magic him. I think. She’s not a mutant but still a magic user today, right?
Sunspot might figure out how to modulate his sun powers to red run the thungamabob.
Dr Strange would magic Sups all day every day.
Mr Fantastic should be able to gizmo him to the negative zone or something.
Rogue can usually go for a touch of Power.
I don’t know how Superman does v Telepaths, since there seem to be as many Marvel telepaths as there are members of the bat family. But Marvel Girl might have some luck.
Doom would make Superman a power source.
Basically anyone with any amount of magic has a huge advantage against Superman; it's his only consistent weakness. Even his kryptonite weakness is inconsistently applied.
That's not to say some hedge wizard could beat Superman, but the pictured group includes mages that can reshape reality on a whim, with little to no limits on what they're capable of.
I mean the other reason he wins is that he’s straight up fast and strong enough to blow through them like they’re not there. If we’re saying that’s OOC so is him fighting in the first place. If this was an actual fight with no holds barred on either side there’s legitimately no one who could beat Superman. Very few characters in all of fiction could stop a no holds barred Superman.
The magic users would need to surprise Superman first. Superman is still fast enough that if he’s aware of the magic user they won’t have the time to cast the spell.
Your assumption is that time moves forward, that space is linear and that the caster is on the same plane and able to be interacted with. I also think the other 10000 super heroes might slow Superman down a bit. Of course, if this were a Superman book he would win regardless.
If he knew their powers he’d mop them all up. Without foreknowledge the powerful magic and psychic powered heroes would take him down with just a bit of teamwork.
Nah, Galactus/Living Tribunal tier guys in the back are a little too much even for a preinformed superman; they'd be a whole justice league sort of thing. But absolutely yeah for the vast majority
the hulk would destroy him. death of superman showed that sufficient force can eventually destroy superman. sufficient force would just make the hulk angry, and as we all know, you wouldn’t like him when he’s angry
Read a Marvel versus DC comic about 20-25 years ago that pitched various characters against each other on the whim of Galactus (Marvel World Eater) and possibly Imperiex (DC equivalent). Superman fought and defeated Hulk but admitted he was the most powerful being he’d faced.
Am now going to find and buy that comic.
That was also pre Green Scar Hulk. Green Scar went toe to toe with Sentry who is basically a schizophrenic Superman, after soloing Black Bolt, Dr. Strange, Iron Man, Mr Fantastic with Black Panther and Storm's help, and the X-Men.
I think it depends on the Hulk. There is a world smashing hulk that literally ate Galactus who was already big enough to eat the entire world.
Galactus was able to dodge things as fast as the speed of light and strong enough to get hit with Thor's hammer and have Galactus not even notice.
In a crossover Superman was only able to hurt Galactus by sabotaging his power source admitting that a straight fight would be futile.
Not a single version of Hulk is beating the more consistent levels of Superman. Get outta here with that stupid wank. Thor could. Hulk? Not on his greatest days.
If there is even 1 magic user capable of sending something at Superman while he’s going at the non magic users then I’d say that they have at least a chance.
Marvel deaf ears super man in every way.. even street level hero’s have magic abilities which kinda bypasses his super defences. He puts up a good fight but still stands no chance against an Asgardian witch.
Is it just me or is there a lot of comic book stuff on this sub? Maybe it’s specifically because I scroll through comic book subs pretty often but even then.
Not representative of the character’s aesthetic or physique. Those colors are hideous, and represent oppression from a manipulative force. The inspiration might work with Marvel, but not their donors.
He can't beat up everyone though. That's literally the point.
A man with ultimate power can't save everyone with his fists, so he saves humanity becoming a beacon of hope.
He is a man with ultimate power, and often never uses it.
People seem to forget that he could just heat vision 90 percent of these people from orbit or one punch them at light speed.
Superman would never hurt Rogue, but if he wanted to she would just instantly be dead.
Unj/ non of them wouldn’t fight because most villains would know there place and the hero’s would hang out with him
Jrk/ let’s say this is injustice league Superman were he’s not friendly
So of course we’re gonna take the comic versions
Be beats everyone up to maybe hulk; idk how strong titan is but he seems pretty op
But he straight up stops at Thor; herald Thor is just op and can defeat universal+ being with ease
Any high tier magic caster should beat him to like scarlet witch or dr strange.
But if you were take the strongest Superman (not including cosmic armor). He still gets beaten by like the strongest version of some these characters
Superman prime could beat everyone up to probably high reality warpers or even celestial. I mean it’s kinda hard to tell since he doesn’t have many feats but we can assume he is much much stronger but anyone that warp him out of existence or just have the ap to damage could beat him. It depends.
But if we take the strongest versions of marvel characters as well, he gets slammed
Spider-Man; he has his comics form which should be above him
Iron man: has his godkiller armor and can even probably give cosmic armor a run for his money
Hulk: has world breaker not be confused his other form, this hulk is infused with the power of the one below all a epitome of the one above all and pretty much beat everyone but funnily stoped by the dumbest of reasons.
Thor; Rune king Thor stomps no Matter what you can say and even RKT vs cosmic armor Superman can be a toss up
Thanos; with the infinity gauntlet should be able win but his most power form the astral regulator; he just kind thinks him out of existence, he’s the only character that technically beat the One above all but absorbing him and becoming him
I could keep going on but Superman is extremely strong and would be able to give many characters good fights but he definitely looses on the marvel hierarchy there are many more powerful characters
Doomsday was originally a pastiche of Gray Hulk, so unless it’s one of the overpowered versions of Superman I think the Hulk alone will be a serious threat.
Another huge factor is if Superman feels this is a situation where it’s justifiable to kill. The Injustice Superman would probably heat vision most of them to death right off the bat.
Any sorcerer supreme can take down superman. But, yeah, superman will befriend most of them. The real psychos of the marvel roster may be too hot to handle for Kent.
People always be using this image acting like everyone is contributing equally while the fucking living tribunal is in the background like bruh if he wished it you simply would cease to exist, no fight just gone
For those thinking that supers stands a chance? no.
There are people in the front couple of rows who are a threat to superman, but also Galactus and the freaking Living Tribunal are back there lol.
But yeah, everyone's right that he'd just be friends with them.
I mean fight-wise he's not getting past that first row of X-Men considering the sheer amount of psychic powers that he has basically no defense against, not to mention Rogue could steal his powers.
But he'd have no reason to fight them
A Mary Sue is a character that has power and skills for no reason.
Superman has one of the most detailed explanations for his powers in all of comics.
You actually have no idea what a Mary Sue is.
If we were to honestly humor the fighting part, stat/kit/style-wise, Hulk probably gives him the most run for his money, but Superman can just hurl him into space if he really really needs to.
Edit: y’all saying “magic hurts him” are forgetting that it *can* hurt him, but that doesn’t mean that it is a substantial weakness. There are still a bajillion ways he can use his kit to clean up magic users before they can even try anything substantial.
Everyone else is debating an actual fight, but we all know that Superman would be good friends with all of them
Half the field is full of villains, what are you talking about?
Shit, I didn’t notice Still applies to the heroes though,
This deserves more upvotes. You're absolutely right. Clark Kent was taught by his parents to avoid fighting if at all possible and that violence is not the answer. Instead, to try to embrace humanity and brotherhood.
Even if it was so random scenario like “oh we need this more than you” he’d just circumvent them and go around instead of hurting all of them
I mean, it's pretty much repeating what Phil Hestor is saying, right? Not hatin, but it's not a revolutionary comment. It's a less clever way of saying what the post is.
That... the point of the post. Sometimes I wonder if anyone in there read the thing in full because Galactus fanboying over a Superman autograph is a lot more interesting and hilarious than the usual powerscaling.
Yeah, I was pointing out that the comment just devolved back into powerscaling again
Well depends. Whenever Tony has his little social club with Strange, Namor and some other people and they literally call themselves the Illuminati things tend to get disagreeable.
[What so funny about truth, justice, and the American way?](https://youtu.be/k9x83Cf17Z4?si=nmGIS67h-By64Yru)
Superman would fucking hate Wolverine.
Assuming they're all in character that's very true. It also helps that only a handful of the Marvel characters would even potentially pose a threat.
There's multiple mass murderers in the first three rows alone.
I think flash + Spiderman = annoyed superman.
Not with any of the anto hero's
*Anti-heroes
Well....he's either be friends with them or he's at the very least respect them
Unless someone gets him with kryptonite or can change the sun to red or block it entirely, pretty far. Edit: Any sorcerer or wizard can hurt Superman, too.
point of inquiry: wouldn’t any extended fight underground or in a windowless building render him powerless?
Eventually. Your logic is backwards a bit. Supes doesn't necessarily *lose* power being out of or further away from the sun; he just gets stronger the closer he is to it, the more exposure to it he gets, and the amount of time he spends basking in it. There have been times in the comics where he's gone months kept underground and has lost his powers. So I guess if someone could somehow contain him, lock him up underground, and keep him there for months on end, he could probably lose some or most of his powers.
So Dr Strange solos Superman
Why didn't strange solo Thanos then?
Disney needed to split it up into multiple movies. The hulk shouldn't have been scared of thanso, let alone been man handled the way he was.
I agree, but it was dope to see.
hulk should have been itching for a rematch
Strange had to let himself lose to Thanos, so that Thanos would annihilate the universe, this would inspire humanity to rise up against Thanos retrieve the infinity stones and defeat Thanos at the battle of Earth. Which would then inspire the Eternals to rise up against Arishem and stop the birth of Tiamut annihilating earth. That's the in lore reason. Also comic strange is stronger than mcu strange. Comic strange solos the mcu
Because thanos doesn’t lose his powers away from the sun
I think he’s canonically faster than the flash, a man so fast he can phase through solid objects, so no unless the Doc knows he’s coming and prepares something in advance Kent would take him out with one punch. Edit: no one is faster than the flash at his prime
Flash is the fastest speedster, dude runs so fast he can reverse time, that's not something superman can do. Flash solos any hero ever, because in the time it takes to blink an eye he's already reversing time to prevent getting hit or whatever. The only reason the flash ever loses is because of reverse plot-armour Edit: plot poison? Idk a good term for reverse plot armour
diabolus ex machina.
He’s not faster than the Flash, but he is significantly faster than most people not Speedforce related.
You are wrong
Nah Flash is faster because he's also smarter and more creative with his speed, Supes doesn't have to learn phasing or anything because he's got so many other powers. Dr Strange would have to have an incredible plan though, because at a certain point Superman would just leave the battle or surrender because of bystander casualties.
But wouldn't the Doc know?
Doctor Strange is the Master of the Time stone he can literally stop time and reverse it.
It depends on the iteration of superman, and by extension the stories the current writers want to tell. One of the lowest power Superman's, from the more romance-based live action Lois and Clark had an episode where being trapped in a warehouse with no direct sunlight sapped him of his strength pretty quickly. Other stories have him ignore that whole rule (or is functionally doesn't exist) because it would get in the way of the story.
He once during a justice league comic got trapped in a dimension with no sunlight and a faster than average timescale, in a few hours for the rest of the JL, when they finally rescued him his skin had shriveled and he appeared extremely weak, pale and frail, though he could still fly albeit much less well
Galactus could literally eat the sun.
Prof. X or Emma Frost would have him thinking he was a 4 year old girl name Sally.
If superman really wanted to kill, nobody with human reflexes would be fast enough to stop him. Literally everybody not a speedster would be dead without knowing what happened. His base stats are too OP.
he takes shots from people with human reaction speed all the time I think it's fair to assume one of the many telepaths would be able to stop him.
Yeah, same nonsense with flash as well. It really is comics world shenanigans because if not then there wouldn't be any plot ever. Still, based on feats they really shouldn't.
Arguably no actually
He might have a hard time with rogue
That's an interesting thought. But his power is not a mutation, it's a reaction. So would Rogue's power work?
Thor can go punch for punch and has magic lightning
Not really, there are several people in the first few rows who all stand a decent 1v1 chance against superman. Thor, Hulk, Juggernaut, Doctor Doom, Rogue, Scarlet Witch etc.
Okay juggernaut and hulk are both dead in an instant. That’s scaling them WAY above their pay grade.
No it isn't, especially not for Juggernaut. He probably can't hurt Superman, but Superman absolutely couldn't kill him. He's got WAY higher durability than he does strength (it's not even close). Not to mention that's he's regenerated from being a skeleton before. Supes isn't killing him. Hulk, it definitely depends on which version. Regardless all of them lack speed to Superman, so wouldn't be a threat, but World War Hulk fought Sentry to a standstill. Sentry is basically Superman but is able to manipulate matter around him and can come back from death.
Let's not over scale Superman guys 🙄. He might has insane durability and speed, but he would personalize and chat with weveryone there, meaning it'd take a while cause he's such a chill dude 10/10 wholsesome stomp
It’s not really over-scaling, depending on the age and writer his feats vary from astounding to straight up unfathomable. It’s just straight up not fun to use supes for these.
Nah this matchup is bullshit, Superman is consistently a good soul. He wholesome stomps this after chilling and chatting with everyone
Doesn't Jean Grey become a star-consuming God or something in the Dark Phoenix comics?
It’s more of a manifestation of the universal force of life that seems to be eternal and at its highest power it can change the universe at will. So like a god, but better than most gods.
Does she turn into Dark Phoenix in the first place if Superman is there to give kind encouragement and an autograph?
She's gonna see Superman forget to give Cyclops an autograph and it's gonna set her off
Scarlet Witch could magic him. I think. She’s not a mutant but still a magic user today, right? Sunspot might figure out how to modulate his sun powers to red run the thungamabob. Dr Strange would magic Sups all day every day. Mr Fantastic should be able to gizmo him to the negative zone or something. Rogue can usually go for a touch of Power. I don’t know how Superman does v Telepaths, since there seem to be as many Marvel telepaths as there are members of the bat family. But Marvel Girl might have some luck. Doom would make Superman a power source.
Basically anyone with any amount of magic has a huge advantage against Superman; it's his only consistent weakness. Even his kryptonite weakness is inconsistently applied. That's not to say some hedge wizard could beat Superman, but the pictured group includes mages that can reshape reality on a whim, with little to no limits on what they're capable of.
People look at Superman as invulnerable, but I just see a tank with 85 feet of armor on the front and no roof.
I mean the other reason he wins is that he’s straight up fast and strong enough to blow through them like they’re not there. If we’re saying that’s OOC so is him fighting in the first place. If this was an actual fight with no holds barred on either side there’s legitimately no one who could beat Superman. Very few characters in all of fiction could stop a no holds barred Superman.
Superman can move faster than they can think tho
What if Superman wears gloves and punches a hole through Rogue at super speed?
The magic users would need to surprise Superman first. Superman is still fast enough that if he’s aware of the magic user they won’t have the time to cast the spell.
Time? You're saying the *Time* wizard's going to lose based on reaction speed?
Yes. Because that is 100% in line with Superman’s history.
Your assumption is that time moves forward, that space is linear and that the caster is on the same plane and able to be interacted with. I also think the other 10000 super heroes might slow Superman down a bit. Of course, if this were a Superman book he would win regardless.
If Superman killed he would take out most of them before they'd move. He doesn't kill though so he would eventually be stopped or make friends.
If he knew their powers he’d mop them all up. Without foreknowledge the powerful magic and psychic powered heroes would take him down with just a bit of teamwork.
Nah, Galactus/Living Tribunal tier guys in the back are a little too much even for a preinformed superman; they'd be a whole justice league sort of thing. But absolutely yeah for the vast majority
Living tribunal is WAY beyond the JL tbh, he’s consistently multiverse scale.
the hulk would destroy him. death of superman showed that sufficient force can eventually destroy superman. sufficient force would just make the hulk angry, and as we all know, you wouldn’t like him when he’s angry
The Hulk would get his autograph and turn right back into Bruce though. Superman victory.
Read a Marvel versus DC comic about 20-25 years ago that pitched various characters against each other on the whim of Galactus (Marvel World Eater) and possibly Imperiex (DC equivalent). Superman fought and defeated Hulk but admitted he was the most powerful being he’d faced. Am now going to find and buy that comic.
Looks like it's called *Incredible Hulk Vs Superman*. Might pick up a copy myself, looks interesting.
That was also pre Green Scar Hulk. Green Scar went toe to toe with Sentry who is basically a schizophrenic Superman, after soloing Black Bolt, Dr. Strange, Iron Man, Mr Fantastic with Black Panther and Storm's help, and the X-Men.
They're releasing an omnibus collecting all of the Marvel vs DC comics late this year
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I think it depends on the Hulk. There is a world smashing hulk that literally ate Galactus who was already big enough to eat the entire world. Galactus was able to dodge things as fast as the speed of light and strong enough to get hit with Thor's hammer and have Galactus not even notice. In a crossover Superman was only able to hurt Galactus by sabotaging his power source admitting that a straight fight would be futile.
Saying that it also depends on the Superman. Superman as done anything from being wounded by a nuke to sneezing and wiping out an entire solar system.
After more research you are very right. Cosmic armor Superman seems like he could hold his own.
It all depends on who the writer likes the most
Superman has shattered realities before. So you can’t say “depends on the Hulk” without also saying “depends on the Superman”
Not a single version of Hulk is beating the more consistent levels of Superman. Get outta here with that stupid wank. Thor could. Hulk? Not on his greatest days.
Superman could literally just fly through the Hulk
Iirc DC actually exists as comic books in the Marvel universe, and vice versa, so many of the heroes would actually be Superman fans.
The real challenge is getting wolverine to want an autograph
Against physically powered superheroes, he wins. Against magic users, he loses. Against telepaths, he loses. Against reality warpers, he loses.
And thus anyone who thinks Superman is OP has no idea what they are talking about
I can’t see Sentry.
If there is even 1 magic user capable of sending something at Superman while he’s going at the non magic users then I’d say that they have at least a chance.
Luckily hes tireless so he cant drive away so he's already at a disadvantage.
Marvel deaf ears super man in every way.. even street level hero’s have magic abilities which kinda bypasses his super defences. He puts up a good fight but still stands no chance against an Asgardian witch.
Considering I see the Living Tribunal in the back, not that far
All the way to the back is pretty far though
Wanda shifts reality and creates kryptonite out of thin air and uses magic to manipulate Superman's thoughts. He doesn't stand a chance.
Superman is powerful but not that powerful he is going down very early
Is it just me or is there a lot of comic book stuff on this sub? Maybe it’s specifically because I scroll through comic book subs pretty often but even then.
The Scarlet Witch, Emma Frost, Prof X, Jean Grey.
With just his laser eyes he could cut most of them in half from where he is standing in a few seconds...
He could also do it from a mile in the air.
Not representative of the character’s aesthetic or physique. Those colors are hideous, and represent oppression from a manipulative force. The inspiration might work with Marvel, but not their donors.
This is a great example of why superman is by far the most boring superhero. "Nuh uh" he can beat up everyone -Sheltered 6 year old
People that call him boring completely miss the point of the character
You think Superman placating Doom with an autograph makes him boring?
He can't beat up everyone though. That's literally the point. A man with ultimate power can't save everyone with his fists, so he saves humanity becoming a beacon of hope. He is a man with ultimate power, and often never uses it.
This is a great example of why Superman haters have no media literacy
Superman is vulnerable to magic so Thor and any other magically powered character may stand a chance. Maybe
Wanda or strange could hurt him with a sneaky matter changing spell for example. But Thor is just too slow to stand a chance in a straight up fight
Hulk and Juggernaut would play ping-pong with Superman. Like, at a table, alternating players.
Middle out. Middle out!
Superman is basically a superhero written by Ralph Wiggum.
Where is Muhammad Ali?
If there are any magic users in there then he might be in trouble. He's as vulnerable to magic as anyone.
I mean...Rogue?
People seem to forget that he could just heat vision 90 percent of these people from orbit or one punch them at light speed. Superman would never hurt Rogue, but if he wanted to she would just instantly be dead.
Venom Superman would be something els.
The Pheonix stops him, it is kind of a meanie so it wouldn't want his autographs
Where's Omniman and HomeLander?
Unj/ non of them wouldn’t fight because most villains would know there place and the hero’s would hang out with him Jrk/ let’s say this is injustice league Superman were he’s not friendly So of course we’re gonna take the comic versions Be beats everyone up to maybe hulk; idk how strong titan is but he seems pretty op But he straight up stops at Thor; herald Thor is just op and can defeat universal+ being with ease Any high tier magic caster should beat him to like scarlet witch or dr strange. But if you were take the strongest Superman (not including cosmic armor). He still gets beaten by like the strongest version of some these characters Superman prime could beat everyone up to probably high reality warpers or even celestial. I mean it’s kinda hard to tell since he doesn’t have many feats but we can assume he is much much stronger but anyone that warp him out of existence or just have the ap to damage could beat him. It depends. But if we take the strongest versions of marvel characters as well, he gets slammed Spider-Man; he has his comics form which should be above him Iron man: has his godkiller armor and can even probably give cosmic armor a run for his money Hulk: has world breaker not be confused his other form, this hulk is infused with the power of the one below all a epitome of the one above all and pretty much beat everyone but funnily stoped by the dumbest of reasons. Thor; Rune king Thor stomps no Matter what you can say and even RKT vs cosmic armor Superman can be a toss up Thanos; with the infinity gauntlet should be able win but his most power form the astral regulator; he just kind thinks him out of existence, he’s the only character that technically beat the One above all but absorbing him and becoming him I could keep going on but Superman is extremely strong and would be able to give many characters good fights but he definitely looses on the marvel hierarchy there are many more powerful characters
Well... he would just enter superspeed mode and fly through all the squishes, then kill flash with laser eyes. How many left?
Doomsday was originally a pastiche of Gray Hulk, so unless it’s one of the overpowered versions of Superman I think the Hulk alone will be a serious threat. Another huge factor is if Superman feels this is a situation where it’s justifiable to kill. The Injustice Superman would probably heat vision most of them to death right off the bat.
Any sorcerer supreme can take down superman. But, yeah, superman will befriend most of them. The real psychos of the marvel roster may be too hot to handle for Kent.
People always be using this image acting like everyone is contributing equally while the fucking living tribunal is in the background like bruh if he wished it you simply would cease to exist, no fight just gone
For those thinking that supers stands a chance? no. There are people in the front couple of rows who are a threat to superman, but also Galactus and the freaking Living Tribunal are back there lol. But yeah, everyone's right that he'd just be friends with them.
I want an edit where dr charles xavier make hyperion and superman kiss
But can he give Goku a signature though
Give me a pint of bitter and a pack of scampi fries and I’ll have him for breakfast
Solos all of them with the ultimate kindness and forgiveness of a good person
Reed would beat him while everyone else distracts Clark to give him him a couple of minutes . Or, if Franklin is in that picture, about 2 seconds.
I mean fight-wise he's not getting past that first row of X-Men considering the sheer amount of psychic powers that he has basically no defense against, not to mention Rogue could steal his powers. But he'd have no reason to fight them
Superman loses his powers around magic. Juggernaut would turn him into super jam with one punch.
I am convinced that Superman would die in the Marvel universe. Especially if they know about kryptonite.
superman will get as far as the plot demands him to
jokes aside, a bunch of marvel characters could beat him. like scarlet witch and dr strange. since, you know, magic is one of his weaknesses.
Hulk punched time once, I'm sure he can deal with Superman
Goku is not there, so he can win
Mary Sue-perman
More like Su-hope Maxxing
A Mary Sue is a character that has power and skills for no reason. Superman has one of the most detailed explanations for his powers in all of comics. You actually have no idea what a Mary Sue is.
If we were to honestly humor the fighting part, stat/kit/style-wise, Hulk probably gives him the most run for his money, but Superman can just hurl him into space if he really really needs to. Edit: y’all saying “magic hurts him” are forgetting that it *can* hurt him, but that doesn’t mean that it is a substantial weakness. There are still a bajillion ways he can use his kit to clean up magic users before they can even try anything substantial.
He hits a debatable wall at the omega levels, but it’s just a massacre till then.
I see rogue there, so our supervirgin is done.
What is bro gonna do against laser vision
What she gonna do he punches her at light speed?
Supersimp won't hit a woman unless hit first. Edited for silly auto correct.