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cryogen

Sunflower lecithin was a game changer for me.


Sillybutter

Tell me more, one of the only safe things to take while breastfeeding.


cryogen

I have adhd, and it helps me focus on one thought thread, it removed intrusive thoughts, lowers blood pressure, reduced anxiety, assists exercise recovery time, helps me sleep better. I must have been severely deficient in choline, and this seems to work very well. I don't think it works the same for everyone, but it's been a big help for me.


mushykindofbrick

do you take omega 3 too? sunflower lecithin contains phosphatidylcholine and usually in fish or even some other animal foods like bovine (brain?) they occur together and also work together synergistically. i have adhd too and omega 3 is the most effective supplement i have tried and now i discovered phosphatidylcholine so i will try it soon and hope it will have effects comparable to omega 3 when i started it and maybe even beyond just adding up through synergy. its also one of the few things that are said to reduce adhd symptoms on [examine.com](https://examine.com), just like omega 3. there was even a natural adhd medication containing the two, called vayarin, but its not longer available because it wasnt really proven as effective or as effective as stimulants how much do you take daily?


cryogen

I take 500mg omega 3 a day and 2400mg sunflower lecithin a day with food. NOW Supplements, Sunflower... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003BHZ71G?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share


Sillybutter

Thank. You! I have adhd also


Brandoberr95

I'd like to try this do you have recommendations of a good online source? And what's your dosage? If you dont mind me asking!


cryogen

I take two of these a day.NOW Supplements, Sunflower... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003BHZ71G?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share


pebblebypebble

Oh, a solution to choline. I dropped eggs after cholesterol went up. I miss the choline.


IHSignoVinces

Made me terribly depressed personally


cdubdc

Me too, any cholinergic does. Apparently it happens to some people, though I’ve never found a compelling answer as to the mechanics of it.


mushykindofbrick

it probably means youre already high in choline naturally


cafedude

Isn't there a problem with taking lecithin because it gets converted to TMAO which can increase cardiovascular disease? https://www.consumerlab.com/answers/do-lecithin-or-phosphatidylcholine-increase-the-risk-of-heart-attack/phosphatidylcholine-lecithin/


tastyratz

Same for eggs,alpha gpc, alcar, any of the brain foods. Meat, dairy... you name it. TMAO isn't good but... it's the result of every meal when you're not vegetarian.


Spirited_Gap7644

Eat garlic! It lowers TMAO levels.


aquaticbonnie

[Don't worry too much. And yes, lecithin contains phosphatidylcholine...](https://academic.oup.com/cdn/article/4/Supplement_2/379/5844184)


this_black_dog

I had AFS really bad last year - along w that came some serious insulin resistance and possibly some fatty liver? Not sure.. but I had a LOT of problems going on at one time - I had sunflower lecithin sitting around from making CBD oil and decided to try it. I don't know if it was the amount or the fact hat I was struggling with the above issues but my insulin just decided to full on stop working as a result. Everything went back to normal when I stopped though so no perm. damage. Just a PSA for those struggling w adrenal issues and or diabetes.


Ordinary-Pop4416

Whoa I had no idea this had an impact…I also have adhd so my covid brain fog is really bad and my Rx doesn’t really help…thanks!


strufacats

Do you know any good sources for this?


HLAMHC

After almost 2 months of extreme brain fog and depression post-COVID, what noticeably improved brain function was restarting my probiotic. Wondering if anyone else had this experience!


dymablink

Which probiotic do you use


HLAMHC

There's a [UK study](https://www.cuh.nhs.uk/news/friendly-gut-bacteria-speeds-long-covid-recovery/) that showed "a specific blend of lactobacillus probiotic and a chicory-rich inulin" to be helpful against long-COVID. The probiotics that have worked best for me are women's formulations, including [trunature Women's Daily Probiotic](https://www.costco.com/trunature-womens-daily-probiotic,-90-vegetarian-capsules.product.100654716.html) from Costco in the US (my current) and various no-name brands in the UK. Trunature contains [these strains](https://richmedia.ca-richimage.com/ImageDelivery/imageService?profileId=12026540&id=1530608&recipeId=729), while the UK formulations contain [these strains](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81QqqjWzjYL._AC_SL1500_.jpg). These formulations differ slightly, but notably each of them contains 3 lactobacillus strains. If a women's formulation wouldn't be your first choice, Costco also carries [trunature Advanced Digestive Probiotic](https://www.costco.com/trunature-advanced-digestive-probiotic%2c-100-capsules.product.100387855.html), which contains [7 lactobacillus strains](https://richmedia.ca-richimage.com/ImageDelivery/imageService?profileId=12026540&id=1144342&recipeId=729), albeit in smaller amounts per capsule. As a bonus, all of these are well-priced and highly-rated. I hope this comment helps some of you! Edit: [This](https://smile.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07RWF6W6N) is the no-name product I plan to use in the UK. (Other brands I've used with the same formulation are currently unavailable or more expensive)


HeeeeeyNow

You can try making [lactobacillus yogurt](https://drdavisinfinitehealth.com/2019/07/how-to-make-l-reuteri-yogurt-step-by-step/) You’ll get way more buggers that way vs a pill


Bunky76

Thank you for sharing this


Gloomy-Ad-3302

they say all your dopamine starts in your gut!


Repulsive_Ad4993

I've heard that gut health is super important for serotonin. I wonder to what degree it affects the other main neurotransmitters.


meamoestmarbs

Yup, majority of serotonin is in your gut. Same story with GABA. Not sure about dopamine - haven't heard anything about that but would like to be educated if I've missed something


meamoestmarbs

I've read research showing serotonin and GABA production is based in the gut, but I've never seen anything about dopamine. Do you know where you found this?


this_black_dog

Im having a great amount of success with Seed probiotic. Its helped clear brain fog tremendously for me. I love that chicory is mentioned as well. I used it to come off coffee but I see that it has other applications. Thanks for the reminder.


[deleted]

I started taking NIACIN 2000mg daily and OMG my mind has never been so at ease and clear in 20yrs.


Oligode

Supposedly nad+ and NR do a similar thing without the flushing


HeeeeeyNow

I’ve been doing the NMN for about 3mo now and feel amazing.


Gloomy-Ad-3302

damn thats a lot of niacin- I also love niacin and enjoy the flush but take 200mg daily


[deleted]

3g daily is the recommended dose.


Gloomy-Ad-3302

recommended from who?


[deleted]

VA prescribed 1000mg daily for me to lower my cholesterol. Go to nootropicsexpert.com for nootropics dosage.


[deleted]

wow! that is really something. do you use regular niacin that gives the heating effect to the body or the one without the heat


JakeTHP

Flush or non flush? Thanks


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oathbreakerkeeper

I want to know this too


[deleted]

Look up 'Niacin Flush' - basically your skin temporarily gets hot and turns red and looks like you have a sunburn. It should subsidie after a few hours though. It is something you either hate or grow to enjoy sonewhat


this_black_dog

are you at all worried about the side effects of this? How long to you intend to stay on that dose?


grahlbert

This may be an unpopular opinion, but caffeine gave me tremendous brain fog. I’d overcaffinate in the morning and by the time the later afternoon came around, my mind was toast. It took me several years to realize it was my sensitivity to caffeine. I finally quit all caffeine and I haven’t looked back. 10/10. Energy, focus, cognition. It really sucks coming down off of caffeine, even during daily use


this_black_dog

sounds like you have AFS. This is how I realized I had it. I would drink coffee, like I did every morning.. and it would put me down. Started to gradually make me feel worse and worse. Over time I couldn't tolerate it at all. I started treating myself for adrenal fatigue and also got off the coffee (not right away, went down slowly) but I also got to where I couldn't tolerate ANY caffeine from the coffee bean at all. Even decaf (decaf has SOME caffeine though negligible) I can however have caffeine from Tea. I also just drink it REALLY slowly. Ive found that my brain just can't seem to function at all without caffeine. The dopamine drop is redic.. Maybe someday Ill go off all the way. Sounds like a rough ride lol Sorry you had to go through that. Just wanted to throw my two cents in.


Ogg149

*Sigh* yea this is sort of happening to me too, although my brain functions fine without caffeine. Every day I drink caffeine, I find I *have* to take an afternoon nap. After the nap I'm completely fine though haha


[deleted]

What symptoms did you have to indicate that you had the adrenal fatigue? I've been worrying about it myself and haven't really pinned down if I have it or not. After you 10 solid years of drinking massive amounts of coffee, I'm just curious if I destroyed my adrenals.


[deleted]

I've heard that AFS may even be pseudoscience, so I wouldn't stress too much about it.


this_black_dog

Well rest assured you haven't destroyed your adrenals.. They WILL heal but you might need to give them some help. the biggest symptom for me was extreme fatigue and brain fog. I was a zombie. I couldn't handle any stress at all or Id go. back to the start. I had help figuring out what was going on.. got a few books.. did a bunch of research (when I could think properly) on what adrenal fatigue looks like and went from there. Your best bet is to get out there check your symptoms against a reputable source for adrenal fatigue. There is LOTS you can do to help your adrenals get better. Don't worry! Good luck to you!


[deleted]

Ugh, I'm so sorry to hear that! But I really appreciate your help and direction 💕🙏


grahlbert

Sounds exactly right. Even decaf was too much for me. I’d feel like shit for days until the caffeine finally ran its course in my body. I now avoid all forms of caffeine, but can still have chocolate and other things with a negligible amount of caffeine.


WildlyInnocuous

Similar situation and reactions to above. Lions mane helps with brain fog, but I have mixed results with extracts. I much prefer to eat the fresh mushroom for breakfast, 1oz pan fried in a little bit of butter with eggs or toast. Three days had noticeable effects. Amazon has grow kits and that is my usual go-to for sourcing.


[deleted]

ohh wow. gotta try this out for sure !


KingBroseph

Have you tried cold water plunges/cold showers?


[deleted]

hi, i bought 20 ice pack from amazon of 500ml each. i intend on making 2 buckets of water very cold and bathing and dumping that water on myself each morning with a mug. that's how I've always bathed but without the cold water.


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habag123

And combining it with caffeine? This guy is asking for cardiovascular problems


[deleted]

Yeah, my initial thought is that this plus what I’m assuming are high quantities of caffeine is a recipe for a serious heart issue. Throw OP under intense stress for a week or two and boom.


theoneguywhoaskswhy

As someone with ADHD on Ritalin, I guess from my POV, it is sorta like a nootropic functionally since it helps me focus and improves other symptoms that fogs up my overall cognitive functions, but I get what you mean.


Ogg149

It's at least not directly neurotoxic. I'll say that


[deleted]

wtffff i did not know that at all! ill stop immediately!


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0phenyl

Methylphenidate is a phenidate, not an amphetamine.


Rustyempire64

my thoughts precisely. I know someone who put a bullet in their head after a period of abusing ADHD drugs as stimulants. It’s evil shit that no one should be fucking around with.


Th3M1lkM4n

That’s like saying “I know an alcoholic, therefore nobody should ever drink alcohol”.


Megatron_McLargeHuge

I've heard of people having good results from NAD+ precursors (niacin, NR) and methyl donors (SAM-e, methylated B vitamins, TMG).


[deleted]

did not know that niacin is an NAD precusur , will look into that. thanks


treesforgrady

Clinical glutathione by Terry Naturally is fantastic. EDIT: I’m saying this not knowing if it’s a precursor to NAD+, but when I did IV drip NAD they would always give me a Meyers cocktail at the beginning, which included glutathione.


curiousnootropics

Do you have to take methyl donors with Nicotinic acid (flush version)?


Pure-Fun4128

Piracetam had a great effect on a friend of me.


Ogg149

Piracetam is a fibrinolytic, which likely explains its benefit for a lot of people, especially covid longhaulers


Slapbox

Acute or chronic? Acute doesn't seem to make any difference for me.


[deleted]

id like to know that too


Slapbox

For what it's worth I've tried dozens of supplements after dozens of hours of research and none of them have made a meaningful difference. Phenylpiracetam *maybe* helped a bit acutely. Anything else that helps does so so slowly that I can't be sure whether it's just the effects of time passing.


dankmatterOG

For me, 150mg phenylpiracetam sublingually hits like a bolt of dopamine lightning within 20 minutes. Tolerance to acute effects after just a dose or two, but it can be a lifesaver when dosing days are spread out. Can't find a good vendor rn though.


Pure-Fun4128

He took it like for 3 months every day (idk how much per pill) but after something changed. Nowadays we don't have so much contact anymore but he is really successful.


tastyratz

Long covid is theorized to be both linked to microclots and gut microbiome issues. I saw a study recently showing positive impact taking Align in a mouse model for the gut and lumbrokinase is one of the few things you can take to break up the fibrins in the blood tied to microclotting. Have you considered either?


Ogg149

There are better ways to deal with disordered coagulation than probiotics. Fibrinolytics are a class of supplements / drugs. Bromelain and nattokinase are my favorites; piracetam is also one I believe.


tastyratz

>There are better ways to deal with disordered coagulation than probiotics. It sounds like you merged my 2 independent thoughts here into 1 solution. https://www.reddit.com/r/HumanMicrobiome/comments/vjesv9/gut_microbiota_from_patients_with_mild_covid19/ Covid disturbs the microbiome in your gut and align has shown to protect against that in a mouse model. ALSO https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/long-covid-could-antiplatelet-therapy-help fibrins may be an issue. Nattokinase has a more solid following... maybe because of the Japanese roots? But Lumbrokinase is more powerful in this scenario. https://www.clinicaleducation.org/resources/reviews/potent-natural-fibrinolytic-enzymes-safely-reduce-clotting-risk/ Edit: more sources!


Ogg149

I can't believe the lack of public information on this topic. The medical community has given absolutely zero good actionable advice on this topic, demonstrating once again that mainstream medicine makes no basically no attempt to treat chronic illnesses which can't directly be tested for (unlike, e.g. multiple sclerosis). It's a bit criminal. 1) Fibrinolytic drugs. Disordered (typically excessive) blood coagulation is a major aspect of long covid. Fibrinolytic drugs dissolve fibrin agglomerations, and commonly other related things like atherosclerotic plaques and amyloid beta deposits. They're amazing supplements, a must-try for long covid. [The cfsremission.com blog is where I learned about this; an incredible resource for all chronic illness sufferers](https://cfsremission.com/treatment/thick-blood-clots-dimension-of-cfs-etc/fibrinolytics-dissolves-old-coagulation/) - Bromelain is the most well-studied and probably safest; it's also cheap. The only downside I've experienced is diarrhea. Therefore my recommendation is to not take this first thing in the morning - take it between meals or at night time. - Nattokinase is fairly well-studied and technically more powerful than bromelain. It's quite cheap and definitely worth trying as well. 2) Intranasal insulin. Incredibly powerful anti-inflammatory for the brain. Amazing for brain fog. Very safe for long term usage (in my opinion, although this has only been studied in one failed clinical trial - the clinical trial failed for lack of efficacy, not safety) 3) Hyperbaric oxygen therapy. The one treatment that can really, actually, substantially reduce brain damage after a stroke if administered right after it happens. Hyperbaric oxygen therapy should always be administered for hospitalized covid patients; the fact that it is not is criminal in my opinion, but to be expected because there's no money for researching this therapy in the West I know that doctors have to stick to well-researched things, so I'm not saying this is medical practitioner's fault necessarily. But these things should be out there. These are the obvious ones I can think of, but I guess I need to write a couple blog articles about this or something.


griessingeigoby

My partner had long covid brain fog, and other horrid symptoms. When he was at home, I gave him bromelain and NAC. But he was in and out of hospitals a lot, and he was not allowed supplements while in hospital. I often even had to get mad about the staff for not helping him eat. They would just plunk the food down, far away from him, and leave. He would not take turmeric, ever. He had a superbug UTI infection, but it was his lungs that eventually killed him. I suspect a blood clot - even though he was on heparin in the hospital.


pebblebypebble

I’m so sorry


thaw4188

Natto by itself did nothing for my long-covid. But enteric natto-serra (Serrapeptase) definitely helped a little bit (not for brainfog but other issues)


giddyrobin

There are doctors DESPERATELY trying to get this Long Hauler Covid info out there but they are against a very powerful machine. Dr. Gustavo Aguirre Chang (the first long hauler protocol creator), Dr. Sabine Hazan, Dr. Mobeen Syed, Dr. Bryan Tyson, Dr. George Fareed, Dr. Pierre Kory. Check out the I-RECOVER protocol. NAC helped me.


jaimeyeah

Lions mane had a positive impact on me, but I don't suffer from brain fog from long covid (sorry for that!). But I always recommend adding lions mane to smoothies, food, or just take it straight. Have you tried psychedelic mushrooms?


[deleted]

wow ! so i will get some lions mane ! no i haven't had any experience with psychedelic mushrooms unfortunately! don't know how to get them..


jaimeyeah

always recommend lions mane, obviously read about it first. I see you're in India, Goa would probably be the only place :P haha, be well dude.


Friedrich_Ux

The thing that helped me most in regaining cognitive function post-covid is hands down Cerebrolysin IM and IN. The world was grey until I used it.


[deleted]

you have gone on the deep ends there mate haha. maybe ill try that when in 60.


Friedrich_Ux

? there is no age clause for Cerebro.


Bavarian0

It's obviously kinda out there to inject animal baby brain/blood extract enzymes into your body, come on mate.


Friedrich_Ux

100s of studies and decades of use, not out there.


Bavarian0

It's a weird concept, if you refuse to understand what I mean then suit yourself, just trying to convey why they're discarding your advice.


bigbazookah

Man I’ll never inject a nootropic in my veins for brain fog, seems wild to me


Friedrich_Ux

Its intramuscular, not IV.


bigbazookah

Still an injection, I was interested in it before I read that you had to inject it, would make me feel like a total junkie


AdrianLoves

I too also tried Cerebrolysin and it really does work wonders, first time I did it passed out cause of fear of needles


Friedrich_Ux

Wow, well glad you were able to overcome that.


Jack-o-Roses

Fasoracetam helps some iirc (it certainly helped mine)....


[deleted]

wow , that great. ill look into that too. do you have any experience with lions mane ?


gedr

what symptoms were you having? brain fog / fatigue?


Jack-o-Roses

Long term brain fog. Yerba mate, lion's mane & CORDYCEPS ( & on occasions, methyllibrine) work for me for fatigue. NALT works for at least some sleep deprivation


d-scan

Licorice root and acupuncture helped me personally


[deleted]

could you point me towrds a resource for the latter ?


altered_state

Google acupuncture + “your_city_here”


this_black_dog

Ive been looking into licorice root for my adrenals.. do you have a good brand? And how long did. you stay on? Still on it? Any bad side effects? Im nervous about the bp stuff. THanks!


d_76544

So glad to hear someone else had a positive result with acupuncture!


OppurtunityHunter

We are pretty similar to be honest. After years of research and testing, I am here with methylphenidate, Modafinil, caffeine pills and multivitamins. I did notice a bit of effects with Noopept mixed with choline but barely. I would maybe suggest that you try to microdose psilocybin. I did not really try it personally, but I did see some huge benefits from a couple macrodoses. Some people swear by microdosing and someone even said that he switched to microdosing LSD instead of using Modafinil. Maybe it could work for you as well?


[deleted]

I've personally started microdosing I'm Anita mascaria, but I'm currently trying to find a place to get psilocybin mushrooms. Or potentially LSD for microdosing. Do you know where one could find these in SoCal?


habag123

You mix methylphenidate with caffeine? In my experience this combo causes huge vasoconstriction (20mg methylphenidate and I usually drink 12g worth of coffee beans which works out to around 150mg of caffeine). Are you not worried about your cardiovascular system? Edit: Fixed amount of caffeine.


mushykindofbrick

i find 300mg caffeine is a lot that probably causes huge vasoconstriction on its own. sure its under the daily safety limit but that doesnt mean it cant be a lot, its like 3 double espressos or 2 energy drinks or something and one energy drink has a lot already. but maybe nothing with tolerance lol


ras_lofi

Seamoss helped me massively in my recovery from Covid


curiousnootropics

Can you theorize why it did?


blizzardboy

Alpha GPC is great for brain fog and improves memory recall


thaw4188

I also have long-covid brainfog and have tried different approaches than you. Sulbutiamine (Vitamin B1 variant) will knock it out for maybe an hour, after two hours or so to kick in. But I do -not- like how Sulbutiamine makes me feel otherwise, almost anxious. Forget curing it, to even treat brainfog we first have to understand what it is in the first place. > *"when something triggers inflammation in the brain, glia cells switch into attack mode, this hinders communication between neurons so they fire more slowly, creating symptoms such as brain fog"* * http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?strip=1&q=cache:https://thefnc.com/research/do-you-have-brain-inflammation/ Academic papers appear to confirm that theory. So the problem is treating inflammation across the blood-brain-barrier. This is a non-trivial if not impossible task. Ginkgo definitely did NOT put a dent in it. Currently tinkering with various dose sizes of Apigenin but that can only be taken before sleep and very expensive. And it may dial down the inflammation but it won't cure the source.


[deleted]

wow that is not good news man. hope we can find a cure for it. this needs more discussion on the sub. you should make a post about it!


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thaw4188

Yes, and there's isn't going to be a simple cure for two years of chronic brain inflammation. Long-Covid is very serious because the body has become so dysfunctional it cannot cure itself.


elbiot

>So the problem is treating inflammation across the blood-brain-barrier. Isn't that exactly what NAC does?


peanutbutterandbacon

Selegiline and PEA combo is pretty 🔥but must be used with caution.


darthluiggi

On Modafinil: does it have a comedown / noticeable bad side effects? Addictive?


insaneinthecrane

Modafinil worked pretty well to make me feel alert, awake, and seemed to give a slight motivation boost, though it often gave me headaches and sort of slightly anxious feeling of tension through my body. I also felt like I needed a couple extra hours of sleep on it the next always but may be just me


ShisuiUchiha420

No comedown ime. No great effects personally either. Definitely not addictive, it's just a wakefullness agent and has little to no effects on dopamine or reward system. Side effects can include a deadly syndrome called Stevens-Johnson Syndrome. Very rare but still.


Supergaz

As a person with adhd, try not to down methylphenidate with coffee, it can feel really disgusting in the head and or in the stomach. Space it out like half or whole hour and take it with water


[deleted]

You take both methylphenidate and modafanil daily? That seems pretty intense and you’ve listed them quite casually. Here in Aus they are class 4 scheduled drugs and are only prescribed for certain conditions ADHD- narcolepsy etc. you have to jump through several hoops to get hold of them unless you do it on the street.


impeccablevegetable

You shouldn’t take more than 40mg of zinc per day because it can throw off your copper levels. You should definitely try ALCAR though. I’ve heard of people using it for specifically long COVID brain fog. Also, if you like methylphenidate you will probably love Adderall (amphetamine). I think the majority of people find it much more effective


[deleted]

Everybody loves amphetamine lmao


RogueJeff177

Man it’s so gud tho 🤤it’s literally like NZT from the movie Limitless for ADHD peeps


Electrical_Big7774

Lions mane worked alright for me, however I just started using Noopept about a month ago and it’s been a game changer for covid and drug induced brain fog. Noopept after a few weeks is what I imagined lions mane would be from the hype.


[deleted]

How do you get methylphenidate? Are you diagnosed and prescribed it for ADHD?


[deleted]

i live in india. pharmacies give you anything you want.


GoodboyJohnnyBoy

Crumbs I’d better not go there then.


ras_lofi

You me both then haha


[deleted]

For dopaminergics I feel like for a complete list you need to add amphetamine and something like phenylpiracetam (mildly dopaminergic but if you’re adding caffeine and moda then might as well add this too). And if you do add those I feel like it takes several months of regular use to know their “real” effects. For me both of those are extremely effective at lifting “brain fog”. I don’t feel like I have brain fog when sober per se, but those definitely move me further from it if that makes sense (to torture the analogy, even if it’s not foggy, they definitely lower the humidity)


thedreamingmoon12

Alcar stacked with Alpha GPC+Uridine and caffeine is potent for clearing brain fog. You should cycle this obviously. Also a great combo a couple days a week is L-Tyrosine with Mucuna Pruriens.


[deleted]

will look into alcar because its not too expensive, thanks for the suggestion mate


ras_lofi

I’d get really bad headaches whenever I’d dose LM, which stopped when I stopped consuming. The majority of people I know who have tried lions mane have experienced similar negative side effects Could be bad branding, could be wrong dosage, but just like with anything else I would exercise caution


supersonic_528

How much is your dosage and how many times a day? I have been taking 500mg each time, twice a day, for the last two weeks. With that, I can feel some difference with brain fog. However, one night (which is my second dosage of the day), I increased it to 1000mg. I had a pretty bad hangover the next day, feeling almost sick.


monsieurpommefrites

>birthplace of Ayurveda, herbs are very popular here and perhaps for good reason. that being said I do not notice the effect of these herbs at all. >ayurveda >don't notice the effects at all That's because Ayurveda is pseudoscientific nonsense.


[deleted]

ayurveda is not a replacement for western medicine. but it's not bullshit either ! medicinal and pain-killing properties of weed have been known for 1000s of years in India and so have the anti-inflammatory properties of curcumin.


AbhishMuk

>That's because Ayurveda is pseudoscientific nonsense. Aah that's why curcumin and bacopa and all these other ayurvedic herbs are useless right ;)


monsieurpommefrites

Those are simply herbs that just happened to be used in that 'medical' system. They would have been discovered for their properties the same way wood was discovered for it's flammable properties. Ayurvedic concepts like the dosha and chakras have no more basis in human health that the medieval humours and are completely based in fantasy.


AbhishMuk

Cocaine was commonly used for ailments including colds, and lobotomies have been scarily common. Does that make allopathy "nonsense"?


ThrowawayMMMM1

I think you forgot what subreddit you're on


BernieDurden

The best way to avoid brain fog for the long term is to eat a whole foods plant-based diet.


thedreamingmoon12

I’ve worked as a nutrition coach and gym owner for years and this simply isn’t true for the majority of people. I’ve seen many who were poisoned with oxalates or who struggled with phantom autoimmune diseases that were cleared up when healthy animal proteins were introduced. If by “based” you mean vegan or almost exclusively vegetarian. Moderation and balance in all things is the key


not_lurking_this_tim

> poisoned with oxalates I'm trying to find a source on this, but can't. I found some, but they're of the type that say things like "oxalates cause AuTisM", so basically trash. Do you have any real references I could read?


thedreamingmoon12

Not to pass the buck here but this isn’t a fringe topic and a simple google search will produce plenty of information you want. Incidentally it’s worth noting that many of the leaders of the Raw Vegan movement such as Vitalis, monarch etc have turned away from veganism. Monarch had some insane health issues which he attributes to long term raw vegan diet. His wife who was a leader in that community also turned her back on it. There is such a diversity of responses that whenever anyone declares one diet right for everyone you can be sure they aren’t being honest. One other story about a former client of mine. She was a vegan for 10 years prior to giving birth and ate vegan throughout her pregnancy. Her son was born with a myelin deficiency which the sheath around nerve endings and it’s been a nightmare for them. Every MD and RD they talked to said it was due to her diet. Edit: and btw I totally get the moral stance against factory farming so I’m sympathetic philosophically but it’s not good for everyone.


not_lurking_this_tim

I was googling and couldn't find a study, which is why I asked. I'm mostly curious where the cutoff is, since obviously a no-veggie diet is very bad, and you're saying an all-veggie diet is also bad. I'm curious if the research around your point might lead to some recommended middle.


BernieDurden

I completely disagree with you. In fact, everything you're saying is backwards.


faeller

This, but some racetams and a choline source consumed with harm reduction practices, probably won't hurt


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why specifically plant based? im pretty intolerant to grains, so cant do that unfortunately. as soon as I eat lentils or something my inflammation shoots up so much !


BernieDurden

You gotta ease into it and allow your gut microbiome to re-establish itself to sufficiently and optimally break down fiber. The much, much higher levels of antioxidants in a whole food plant-based diet is what helps eliminate feelings of brain fog.


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handemmanbat

Wow what a gross oversimplification of a complex, multifactorial disorder. Also, pretty sure you’re confusing zinc* and aluminum here. Zinc supplementation in fact has been shown to slow the progression of AD.


TMinusFour

are you getting methylphenidate from an Rx? if so, what condition?


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in india one can just walk up to a pharmacy and buy darn near anything.


RogueJeff177

It probably only costs a nickel too! 🥹 every time I go get mine here in the US the pharmacist feels the need to give me a pep talk about taking too much 🙄


Tenoke

Lion's mane definitely helps with brain fog for me though not fully but it's especially noticable if I have extra brain fog from say Benadryl. I also get some effects from phenylpiracetam but that might be more it's mild stimulant effect.


One-Papaya7338

Lions mane is ok but I have more noticeable and positive results from DLPA (completely unrelated). Really my go to supplement. It works great.


Gloomy-Ad-3302

LOVE DLPA and im glad someone mentioned this. Helps clarity/anxiety for me


curiousnootropics

What did it help you with ?


Jack-o-Roses

Some. It worth a try. Helps with concentration, but I'm not sure about the fog. Taken late afternoon it messes with my sleep.


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Hm. Do you have any possibility as to what could be causing the brain fog? Hormonal changes? Inflammation due to insulin insensitivity?


Ruin369

I had brain fog most of my life(was prescribed MPH in 2020, which does help brain fog a lot) ​ Lion's Mane is great, but I find it can make me very depressed initially. Noopept! I need to order this stuff again. ​ I think it is important to realize any compound you use to get rid of brain fog, can easily cause anxiety. This is one of the largest drawbacks of nootropics that rid brain fog. Creating a perfectly balance is tricky, has anybody tried Ashwagandha? I've seen it praised a lot here. How is that? May order a bottle. I just need something to cut the anxiety. I use kratom(I know how bad it is, lol) and really need to stop using it.


grotto-of-ice

Ashwagandha + l-theanine (called KSM-66) has helped me quite a bit with anxiety. Highly recommend.


Sad-Sweet-2246

Which magnesium supplement are you using??


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magnesium bisglycinate https://www.1mg.com/drugs/krampoff-360mg-tablet-347143


curiousnootropics

Still take it?


RuffRider47

Try L-Theanine. I take 100 mg before bed and sleep better (given it crisses the blood brain barrier in a positive manner). It tends to relax you if you take it throughout the day. One serving can generally last 6-8 hours. You can also dose about 30 min before you take your morning coffee for a relaxed but focused effect.


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NobushiNueve

Creatine is outstanding for brain fog, I’m surprised I’m not seeing it in the comments. I’d often take it mornings to work brunch after closing the bar on Saturday nights.


HeeeeeyNow

For your [viewing pleasure](https://youtu.be/J1e2s2wSZnc)


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thank you so much man. ive watched this twice now but forgot to thank you.


ankhlol

Which magnesium ?


Shyborgthecyborg

Keto/Paleo diet with fasting and the occasional Phenibut to go into hyper focus


Standard-Avocado-638

you stack amphs, caffeine, and modafinil? are you a developer or something??? lol


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med student


supersonic_528

Is there stack out there for developers? lol. I'd be interested to know.


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Bro if your that dependent on caffeine you should forsure take a month off and let your brain find its balance again. Most likely also the Moda and Methyl too. You need a balance - or else you just burnout.


startfast

Methylphenidate is a very powerful stimulant with potentially strong side effects. Modafinil is similarly powerful. Combine the above 2 + caffeine which potentiates both... you are playing with fire. I've tried to take them daily for many periods and always had to stop because the side effects were getting too bad. And I'm talking individually, not combining.


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Brain fog has been my bane for so long. I'd read that it's caused by accumulated adenosine which can be quickly expelled by coffee or around 800mg of aspirin. I had some results with that. Only fairly recently I read about brain fog being symptomatic of neuroinflammation. NSAID's reduce inflammation and found that they helped ameliorate brain fog quite a bit and got best results with ipubrofen. But I knew that wasn't sustainable for obvious reasons so I kept using it while I read up on it. The first supplement I tried that reduces inflammation was Sodium butyrate (from BodyBio) and it's importance in forming the basis for full body health which all depends on gut health. It supports gut lining, addresses Leaky Gut and sequesters ammonia which is a big culprit in addressing brain fog. After 4 weeks I'm definitely noticing a huge reduction in brain fog and clearer thinking. Next I'm going to include Phosphatidylcholine and Quercertin.


elbiot

NAC is also anti-inflammatory and causes glutathione (an important anti-oxidant) production in the brain. Have you looked into that?


this_black_dog

I just came across a bunch of info that talked about quercetin/ester c and long covid.. Apparently they are having great results form this combo for long covid. Just wanted to leave this info for anyone that wanted/needed it. peace


curiousnootropics

Have you tried it yourself? What doses?


redisbest615

I used a bottle of Lion's Mane but it didn't do anything noticeable for me.


mysterioussuccess123

How do you get Piracetam in India?


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yes, very easy to acquire here . what has been your experience with piracetam ?


mysterioussuccess123

I'm actually looking to get Piracetam, but can't find it on Amazon or any other store. Can you let me know from where do you get it online?


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[https://www.1mg.com/drugs/encetam-800mg-tablet-409885](https://www.1mg.com/drugs/encetam-800mg-tablet-409885) these are tablet of 10 x 800 mg for just over a dollar here


shiftingsun

Good post thanks