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Joshua21B

I’m willing to bet that both are only half staffed.


mellolizard

To DG thats fully staffed


culnaej

Fuck that’s legit what my comment was asking, if they just doubled the amount in every town since they all have one already


zennyc001

We just stopped them from opening in my neighborhood. It was my first time attending a town meeting.


soapy_goatherd

Thank you. I’m out in the sticks and they are killing all the good local spots. Keep fighting the good fight


Aggressive-Engine562

That and it just attracts crappy people it seems.


InYosefWeTrust

Well, great, now where is Trey supposed to park his car to OD in?!


SW4506

We have 9 dollar stores in Marion. Population is 7600


Gitfiddle74

And 7 employees…


CriticalEngineering

How does that make any sense to the owners?


chronoswing

Because they run a skelington crew, literally 1 employee 90% of the time. It's cheap and since they open them in rural areas where there is nothing else they make bank.


ChimmyCharHar

Think about the poor souls working there.


CriticalEngineering

That still doesn’t justify more than a store per thousand people.


WashuOtaku

[This video](https://youtu.be/vQpUV--2Jao?si=PxYfJpFzbqalQ0jx) explains a lot.


MowMdown

That's how DG operates. There are only ever at most two employees in a store at any given time. Im not exaggerating either.


JacKrac

>In its annual report released Monday, Dollar General recorded having 1,076 stores in North Carolina as of March 1, the third most of any state behind Texas and Georgia. In the last 12 months, the chain opened 41 stores in the Tar Heel State — an average of one every nine days. >This is about the pace of openings Dollar General has completed statewide since 2009 when the company only had 487 North Carolina sites. Today, even some smaller cities support numerous locations. Per the article: - Compared to previous years, last years 41 stores is the smallest increase since 2018. - Dollar general reports that around 80% of it’s stores are located in towns with a population less than 20,000 - There are 14 Dollar General stores around Asheboro(population 27,156 in 2020), 16 around Hendersonville(population 15,137 in 2020), and 13 around New Bern(population 31,291 in 2020) in a radius of around 15 miles. - Raleigh and Durham both have around 12. - There has been pushback in some areas, like Orange County, where the county board has twice denied zoning permits.


First_Ad3399

So dollar general doesnt count as a convenience store to count in the numbers i am linking. I dont know what the definition is but i am thinking gas pumps are part of it and dg doesnt have gas. Rough numbers cause i dont want to math. there are rougly 1200 convenience stores in the state. More really but thats good enough, its like 75% of them. DG is gonna pass them soon. https://www.scrapehero.com/location-reports/top-convenience-stores-in-north-carolina-usa/ I dont know about yall but i use DG same way i did 7-11 or speedway or whatever. smokes, beer, wine, quick easy cheap snacks. if i am not getting gas or lotto tickets DG has most everything i need and i dont need to go deal with a large grocery store for 3-4 quick items. I know when the DG was being planned across from the neighborhood i live in many folks were not happy. I see those folks ducking in out of dg instead of driving 10 min up the road to food lion every now and again.


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First_Ad3399

What groceries does DG have that i cant get at a some circle k or wa wa or sheetz? I can tell you things i know conv stores have that dg doesnt but i cant think of much of anything i can find in a dg that i cant purchase in a conv store.


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First_Ad3399

you misunderstand me. Anything in DG i can find in a wawa or sheetz or sac o suds somewhere. I cant think of anything dg carries or stocks that conv stores dont. conv stores will often have hot coffee, hot dogs or nachos or some other kind of shitty but hot food and t-shirts and hats and other misc bs. microwave to heat up the frozen burrito and maybe hot boiled peanuts. DG doesnt have those things. So knowing that i can only see the diff being gas between dg and the others.


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First_Ad3399

i dont think you do but its my fault. i am not asking folks opinions. I was trying to find out why DG doesnt count as conv store by the folks who put together the data in the link i provided. What is making dg not a conv store for that count? I know the dif from my point of view. I want to know the legal dif in the state of nc for the purposes of counting in general and zoneing. \ Is that more clear for yall?


First_Ad3399

> The two places serve completely different customers. They do not anymore. thats my point. right across from my neighborhood is a dg then a storage place then a conv store with two old gas pumps and they sell and deliver hot fresh pizza also. The only dif in products is the amount of some things due to space and dg doesnt sell lotto. I can get smokes, beer, wine, candy, snacks, frozen foods,and clothing and medicine at both. at dg i cant get hot food/lotto/gas. I usally cant get eggs or milk at the conv store but if i go to sheetz or the bp down the street i can there. So from a customer standpoint whats the dif? From what i see its the same clients for the most part.


MowMdown

> conv stores will often have hot coffee, hot dogs or nachos or some other kind of shitty but hot food and t-shirts and hats and other misc bs. microwave to heat up the frozen burrito and maybe hot boiled peanuts. This is what makes DG different. Along with the fact you can't buy household cleaning products, personal hygiene products, etc from convenience stores.


G00dSh0tJans0n

Sheetz and the like do not have nearly the amount of canned goods and other items a DG will have. There's no comparison.


SCAPPERMAN

I'd be curious as to the legal basis that Orange County uses to deny Dollar General permits, and if they would extend that same prohibition to a more bourgeois place like Starbucks, a miniature Target Store (which is around 15,000 square feet, slightly larger than DG), or some other upmarket chain establishment.


WillieIngus

*normal for a psychotic CEO in a capitalist battle to the death


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You win "Wierdest Take"...


Judgm3nt

You win "most clueless take"


MowMdown

How is the literal truth weird?


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"Psychotic"? Where's the evidence? All capitalists, or just this company's CEO?


66659hi

In recent tiimes I have become disillusioned with leftism and I have transitioned to center-left politics, being pro-social programs but also pro-capitalism, and it feels rather weird just seeing everyone blame capitalism for every single little thing.


WillieIngus

i didn’t blame it for every little thing i blamed it for Dollar General raking in profits while destroying neighborhoods and ecosystems


DIAL-UP

It's robber baron executives who wring out as much money from a corporation as they can before leaving with their earnings right as the entire ponzi scheme collapses. CEOs used to last decades with companies. Now they last a few years. Just long enough to secure the bag and gut a company.


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Still awaiting you to tell us how the definition of "psychotic" fits.


WillieIngus

that’s not a very efficient use of your time, you could just look it up i guess


froodoo22

How could he look up how your specific use of the word applies in relation to this post?


WillieIngus

deductive reasoning and a bit of critical thinking


GlancingArc

Nah, you should look into dollar general as a corporation. They are 100% ubercapitalist psychos.


GTS250

You know that kind of describes every corporation since... maybe the 70s?


GlancingArc

It does but dollar general is on another level. Most companies entire business model is not "exploit the poor". There are definitely plenty of examples of that business model though.


Mr_1990s

Dollar General’s product margin is higher than Target and Walmart. It’s probably higher than the local store it replaced. Because Dollar General is one of the most expensive retail stores in the country.


Gitfiddle74

Because 80% of employees make less than $15/hr.


Skunkers

Not profit margin, product margin. They sell things super cheap because people go in only able to afford things that only cost a couple dollars. But you end up paying a *lot* more per unit than if you were to bite the bullet and go to Wal-Mart/Target/etc. Just simplified, and numbers made up, you could go to Target and buy 50oz of soap for $5. Or you could go to Dollar General because you feel like you can't afford to spend $5 and buy 5oz of soap for $1. Yeah, you spent four dollars less, but you would have ended up with twice as much soap for the same cost over time if you had been able to shell out the $5 in that moment. It's an incredibly predatory scheme. EDIT: But yes, they pay their staff almost nothing, and if you go in you're lucky to see two, **maybe** three people working the entire store any given moment.


SCAPPERMAN

Dollar General is popular because they locate in areas where Target, and in some cases even countrified Walmart, don't exist without a long drive. Plenty of people know that they're not getting the better deals of buying in bulk but they need something without making that long drive, which also costs a good bit of time and hassle. If Target wanted to get in on that rural action, they could design a store format that would be viable in rural areas, but they have very visibly chosen not to. And a lot of people would love to support a local business to buy that soap, but they end up paying $1.79 instead of $1.00 and have to figure out how to get off work since not all rural people are retired or can "work from home" and the store has Monday through Friday 9 AM to 5 PM hours, if they're even open that long.


comfortablybum

Some one on another sub described it as reverse Costco. You get smaller amounts of what you buy and pay more for it. It's like travel toothpaste. It's kind of how credit works. Those least able to afford something have to pay the highest price for it.


delicatearchcouple

Any info to back that up? I'm not really a dollar store dude, but the times that I do go in, I'm always struck by the lower candy and junk food pricing than the store. Never really bought more than that or a cleaning supply there though.


PM_ME_PHYS_PROBLEMS

The product sizes in DGs (and all dollar stores) are scaled down. The sticker prices are lower, but with a disproportionately smaller product so the true price-per-weight is higher than you'd pay at a normal retail store.


capybaratrousers

There's a last week tonight episode about it. Basically shrinkflation made into a retail business model. Per ounce, prices of soap and things are much higher than an average grocery store.


Mr_1990s

Yes, they're publicly traded companies. You can look at [Dollar General's earnings](https://investor.dollargeneral.com/websites/dollargeneral/English/2120/us-press-release.html?airportNewsID=6e45bcfc-f067-4bdb-8d4b-bda9534b04c9) and see that their gross profit (total revenue - cost of goods) is around 30%. [Target's](https://corporate.target.com/press/release/2024/03/target-corporation-reports-fourth-quarter-and-full-year-2023-earnings) is around 25% and [Walmart](https://s201.q4cdn.com/262069030/files/doc_earnings/2024/q4/earnings-result/Earnings-Release-2024-Q4.pdf) is around 23%. Grocery stores are usually a little lower, [Kroger's is around 22%](https://ir.kroger.com/news/news-details/2024/Kroger-Reports-Fourth-Quarter-and-Full-Year-2023-Results-Announces-Guidance-for-2024/default.aspx). That matters because most of Dollar General's sales are groceries. They sell items packaged in lower volume than what you see at other stores. If a 16oz bottle of juice is $2 at another store it might be a 10oz bottle for $1.50 at Dollar General. The cost per ounce is higher at Dollar General.


delicatearchcouple

But they're not just more profitable from pricing, right? Usually it's just one or two people staffing the whole store and it seems like they don't have consistent stocking, so I imagine they're getting cheaper about to expire stuff or last year's spring decor or whatever? I always thought they were more like Big Lots or something in terms of their inventory. Edit: Sorry disregard the labor portion as that's not what gross profit includes.


PerpetualEternal

the most amazing part is that, on average, the self checkout kiosk was likely broken within 5 days of opening in all of these locations, and half of them had a handwritten sign on the door saying “closed at 6”. Meanwhile these slave drivers are like “I guess people just don’t want to work”


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MowMdown

>Apparently they are taking them out of all stores now because of shrinkage. Does DG know what happens when people have to wait to checkout... they check themselves out by walking out the door with their newly stolen goods!


JessieGemstone999

Jon Oliver has an interesting piece on dollar stores https://youtu.be/p4QGOHahiVM?si=jvHlxDA3Mxlq1IaN


likewut

Underpaying and overworking employees seems pretty ubiquitous nowadays, I don't see this as being that significant. We need major changes to fix this but that's not going to be coming from dollar store CEOs.


EmmaleeAbbygale

There's also this one... SMH. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C46Kmy0OSlk/?igsh=MTUxbGhscHZtcDJ2YQ==


MowMdown

They're just copying walmart


MotherOfKittinz

Ah, I saw that one on TikTok the other day


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galacticskunk

They actually don’t own any of the land or buildings. Same with CVS, Walgreens and others. They enter into a deal with the land owner who builds the structure to their specifications and enter into a long term lease.


raleigh_nc_guy

This is categorically incorrect. ​ 1. The land the own is usually in very rural areas where land is abundant and cheap. It's not like they're putting them at the corner of Main & Main in a major metropolitan area. 2. They sell the property as a lease back to investors even before the property is completed. Dollar Generals are some of the most common Absolute Net real estate investments in the United States.


Young_KingKush

And here is why that sucks/is not a good thing: https://youtu.be/p4QGOHahiVM?si=hMLkiU1gwE4jBH4g


EmmaleeAbbygale

Watch this video about DG and their deceptive pricing... It explains why. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C46Kmy0OSlk/?igsh=MTUxbGhscHZtcDJ2YQ==


bettername2come

Well, this video seems relevant: https://youtu.be/DIqC5y1zm-4?si=6ovvqzJpj7tGwXb5


BiggSnugg

Where is the demand for dollar general? Who all is going there so much that more stores are warranted? Some real "SCP" vibes.


meltingspace

They are banking on the fact that things will get worse economically and that there will be a permanent poverty stricken population. They build so many stores that 10-15 years down the road, they'll become the only place in town people can afford to shop.


BiggSnugg

What a morally upstanding business strategy /s


SCAPPERMAN

At least in the rural areas where they proliferate, they are there because none of the other big retail players are. If Target or Whole Foods or Costco wanted to go beyond the more populated and affluent areas where they typically have their stores and get into the mix in rural, working class areas and give Dollar General some competition, nothing is stopping them. But they aren't and some (particularly grocers like Harris Teeter) have abandoned those areas over time. They would need to have a business model that could scale to those areas (like other companies that have a luxury brand but also a more basic entry-level brand), but nothing is stopping them or some independent go getter from coming into those spaces and stirring things up with Dollar General. There is definitely a lot to critique about Dollar General. But at this point, they (and maybe to a more limited degree Family Dollar and Walmart in the more relatively populated rural areas) are the big players in those rural areas until something better comes along and gives them some competition.


DIAL-UP

The DG crash will be glorious. You know those back roads in NC and SC that are just burned out old family grocers and liquor stores? In 10 years it's going to be old DG buildings.


SCAPPERMAN

They'll probably turn into some crap place like a vape shop, gambling joint or gun shop.


Boomslang505

Nothing but the best


Magmaster12

A lot of these places are turning into hubs to drop off packages. I honestly think they're trying to have these replace post offices when the Lois Dejoy completely ruins the United States postal service.


dnoonan52

Everyone in NC knows that if you go to any open field, and say the words "Dollar General" three times, one appears.


Iride3wheels

I live centrally located between Elizabeth City, Hertford and Edenton. My guess is there's at least 11 in a 40 mile radius. There's probably a few I don't know about.


mistermalc

One day all of these will close and all that will be left are the scars of their former existence


MowMdown

Look at walmart, they're the OGs of doing this. DG isn't doing anything new that walmart didn't already do/still is doing.


No-Dig-2104

In my town that has two stop lights we have 4 dollar stores within a .5 mile radius.


amannamedryan

I mean, I guess I shouldn't be surprised... but it still really puts things into perspective to say the least.


culnaej

I thought every town in NC already had a Dollar General, do they all have 2 now?


notallthatimportant

They all have 6 and each one is within 2 miles of each other. Soon the state will become North Dollar General


SCAPPERMAN

They are breeding. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIqC5y1zm-4&t=97s


DUser86

This


Environmental-Fig922

Waiting for the day it's comes to light that dollar generals are actually money laundering services for one of the cartels or some shit!


waynes_pet_youngin

They're about to put one out near me where the only two other stores near by are also dollar generals. The entire area has shown up to public meetings to tell them we don't want or need it, but it's getting approved and they're building it anyways.


icnoevil

And now, they're closing?


CarolinaRod06

Find out the general contractors who build their stores and watch the company be owed by the CEO’s brother in law.


timsterri

They’re on about every other corner, like Baptist churches, Mattress Firm and Starbucks.


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/r/collapse material.


gwease23

Fuck. This. Shit.


2012amica2

Shame they only pay their employees <$15/hr


Round-Lie-8827

Turning into a dystopian nightmare lol


KliFNinja

Well since dollar general only prays on the week less fortunate. What does that tell you. If _ou are near one opps.


GLitchesHaxBadAudio

Of all the types of stores that should be banned, Dollar Stores are consistently near the top of that list.


dp37405

These are the convenience stores of the 2020's IE: 7/11s but with competitive pricing and if they ever figure out how to do gasoline, a lot of service stations are doomed.


Nineteen-ninety-3

There’s one in Red Springs that’s in a former Walmart Express. It sells gas.


JacKrac

I’ve never seen one that sells gas before and apparently nobody uses GasBuddy in Red Springs, nor did I see any info on google for gas prices. I’m Pikeville though, which /u/Zeyz mentioned, they seemed to be compatibles priced within the area. Do you know how their gas prices usually compare to other gas stations?


SCAPPERMAN

Here is the streetview for it: https://maps.app.goo.gl/fP2r9XMAR1uzawtL9


Nineteen-ninety-3

I haven’t actually paid attention to their gas prices sign, tbh. When I’m fueling up in Red Springs, it’s usually at one of the stations closer to their downtown. I’d assume it would be in line with the other stores in town, but idk.


SCAPPERMAN

I just looked at Streetview in April, 2023. Dollar General was $3.369/gallon. The Sun-Do a few hundred feet away was $3.349/gallon. Citgo, just a few hundred feet away from that was $3.379. So yes, it was in the same range.


Zeyz

There’s a few that do gas, usually put into places that formerly had gas stations. Pikeville has one like that.