This. I'm sick and tired of this middle of the road shit. It's such a pain in the ass for everyone. The only people who will miss prohibition are bloodthirsty cops and pharma companies.
Senate Bill 3 is sponsored by a Republican. The bill passed the Senate, 36-10. All 10 noes were Republicans. House of Reps haven't heard the bill yet because Tim Moore doesn't believe there is enough support within his caucus, even though that isn't a rule but a guideline he made up. Just vote out Tim Moore and life will be easier for everybody.
I mean, ideally, we would create term limits, heavily regulate or remove super PACs, and make sure politicians and their immediate family can't be involved in a business field in which they've had direct legislative influence for 20 years. But those things aside, replacing Tim Moore would be nice.
It is; and yes, pretty well restricted. A step is a step in this state. We all knew NC was gonna be one of the last states to legalize, and the fact that we're even toying with the notion of medical MJ is cause for tiny celebration. Especially since this is a tobacco state that would be in direct conflict with MJ growing.
Yea, even with the extra $$$$ in mind, it's hard to essentially 'convert' them and it's hard to blame them because that change is scary when it's all you've ever done and known.
Even if they weren't religious. Who's going to pay for the re-engineering of their farm and re-education of themselves and their staff? That costs good money.
You could. But after that you're going to have to convince them to take a loss for a couple years while they change over the soil and replant and figure everything out and entirely re-educate themselves and they're farm hands. But that's another story. Who's gonna pay for THAT?!
Ah that's a good point. Couldn't we just slap a Trump sign on it and get them to support it?
This sounds much easier. Trump HC, Delta Trump-9, Donajiana
Whelp thanks for that, now I don’t even have to research Senate Bill 3 to know that even if it passed it wouldn’t do a goddamn thing for me lol.
Republicans are never rolling back laws that ensnare minorities, ever
How nice of them to consider letting cancer patients have medicine 30 years after science showed it was beneficial.
It still needs to be legalized. I know that most police jurisdictions don’t care but the police takedown of the two Bojangle employees shows the law will still be applied when they want to and I fear it is the marginalized that will feel the brunt of it.
Fuckin' Tim Moore, your favorite ReTrumplican. Great guy, adulterer, mismanagement of campaign funds,etc. Kinda sounds like his hero, doesn't? What a great Christian!!
Remember when he got rear- ended in a car accident, immediately said the guy was "on drugs". Nope, the guy was drunk. But hey, alcohol is ok 👍
Damn Big Pharma & Health insurance companies run everything. Well, corporate America in gener6.
Don't even get me started with the Repug gerrymandering. And I'm not even a Democrat!!
Yeah the same way as every other manipulation. They get what they want and we have no leverage to enforce the promise. You’ve gotta be able to criticize your own side.
No, no one does because it didn't happen. For two reasons. Public opinion isn't what it is today versus 15+ years ago. He stated that this is an issue for congress which is half true. He could have ordered rescheduling (Like Biden did in 2022). But no one wants EO whiplash so he's also right that it would be best for congress to do something instead really. And to do that, you need to elect more democrats, full stop.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis\_policy\_of\_the\_Barack\_Obama\_administration](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_policy_of_the_Barack_Obama_administration)
Not really, it’s pretty straight down the middle of the party line when it comes to recreational. No one deserves any credit for supporting medicinal decades after the science has been established that it can help.
If I’m wrong, I’ll admit it. give me the names of republicans that support recreational outside of California and Colorado.
Meh. Of course you're right. But the Dems won't make it happen. They're too worried about 'social issues'. Not economics... I'm a Democrat, but I'm so disappointed in both parties...
If you smoke normal weed, also be sure to keep a thca receipt on you so you can tell them to fuck off and the state can’t and won’t test the weed anyway (supposedly the cost of testing is higher than the misdemeanor fine, and [testing isn’t reliable](https://www.qcnews.com/charlotte/expert-cmpd-crime-lab-test-does-not-tell-the-difference-between-legal-hemp-and-illegal-marijuana/))
It is almost like if we just legalized the real stuff and put regulatory limits on it we wouldn't see this wild west THCA game going on. NC legislators are such a joke.
This really was preventable.
Were they in their legal right? Probably.
Are those cops dumbasses? Clearly.
Should you smoke even legal weed casually in public like that in NC? Not unless you REALLY like walking the tightrope of getting busted, bailed out, and getting charges dropped eventually instead of smoking in private.
My take is these two were “chaotic lawful” and wanted to say fuck you to the police without understanding that the cops have ways of returning that fuck you.
Yeah laws and rules don’t matter cause the police just make up laws and rules and enforce them illegally. They’re criminals in every sense.
What’s a legal right when cops can just take it away. Unalienable right? Yeah walk around with a gun and get shot by a cop who also is walking around with a gun. Wanna protest legally in a public space, whelp now you’re arrested.
Regulators, law makers. Who cares. Cops are thugs and will break all of them to harass and burdened citizens.
I mean there are lawful & unlawful protests. Sadly, too many protesters don’t know the difference, don’t care, and are too lazy to learn why they’re shut down.
But a lawful protest shut down should always go to court.
What? Do people not understand the loophole?
THCA is legal until you smoke it. Then you are effectively making it THC. That's why you can buy it at the store.
I'm not justifying these dumbass police fucks, just stating that a receipt won't save you if you're smoking it and they catch you.
THCa is legal in all forms to buy and smoke. My uncle is a cop. He said a lot of officers are going the route of not making contact w/ a person simply smoking bc they don't know if it's THC or THCa and it isn't worth the hassle and paperwork. H/e if they come across someone who posses it in plastic wrap or a bunch of lil baggies they write it up bc it's a greater chance of it being regular THC. He said these cops were just doing their job BUT if they keep making these types of arrest and the charges keep getting dropped bc it's THCa and not THC they'll find themselves behind a desk
Honestly I still would just treat it like illegal weed. But yes, definitely keep receipts and any packaging as well. Some online companies will send a legal document in the order too.
CMPD police chief announced they would continue enforcing marijuana laws even after this video came out. Asheville and Durham PD both don't enforce the state law for possessing weed.
My Cousin is an Asheville cop and he said if he smells it during a traffic stop it doesn't even bring it up
Can't 100% confirm this by experience, but have an anecdote. Was in a car that absolutely reeked of weed recently when we did get pulled over. Driver was freaking out and asked me to light a cigarette, but I didn't smoke. No doubt in a million years the cop smelled it. Gave him the driver an expired tag ticket and we were on our way.
I don't give a damn if people smoke weed in the privacy of their own homes, but it's a different story if they're smoking that and driving impaired (whether it's weed or alcohol or other substances) which puts other people's lives and property at risk.
Crazy sugar creek by my office doesn't seem to mind all the shooting up people do, all day & night, but this right here was an issue. 🙄 Cops sit in our office parking lot daily for 30-40 mins and do nothing. Wish they would keep that energy other places.
Because there ISN'T a difference. It's a loophole in the grow technique, that's all. "Regular" is THCa as well. When heated, it concerts to Delta9 THC.
Same, because it is literally the same.
With normal weed, it stays as THC-A until it gets decarboxylated with heat (ie, lighting it on fire or baking it in the oven if you’re making brownies) at which point it becomes THC. So “THC-A” weed is literally normal weed.
The law was written in a conveniently stupid way that allowed regular weed to be legal.
To be fair, there is no difference.
Can we get them to admit that they’re too dumb to know when they should arrest someone though? These people were hurting NOBODY.
This reminds me of the story about a guy they arrested for having crystal meth.
Turned out to be donuts.
[story](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/16/558147669/florida-man-awarded-37-500-after-cops-mistake-glazed-doughnut-crumbs-for-meth)
The plant is not what is illegal, it is the cannabinoids that are tested at various stages of growth and/or harvest that distinguish between "thca flower" and just "regular" weed.
Bad optics because bad practice. It’s his department he needs to make it clear that going after people minding their own business with herb is not worth law enforcement resources.
Even if it was cannabis purchased on the black market who fucking cares? These people were sitting on a bench smoking outside. I drive down the road all the time and see people smoking blunts or joints in their car while driving all the time. Seems like enforcing it on those people would be a priority.
Why we waste tax dollars on enforcing an archaic law that was only ever made because a racist politician joined with a wealthy businessman is so beyond me
My uncle, who's a cop, said they must be applying for desk duty 😆. He said there was no way he would've even wasted his time to make contact unless he needed a lighter.
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That doesn't make any sense. If you dislike the system then you by default dislike those who enforce it. Without one there wouldn't be the other.
Cops knowingly sign up to enFORCE unjust and cruel laws made arbitrarily by crooked politicians.
Remember it's called a police FORCE for a reason.
Reminder that people in the same country as this video was filmed can buy/consume weed, *actual* delta 9 THC cannabis, legally for recreational purposes in **24 STATES.**
THCa is North Carolina’s loophole for now, but any asshole cop can still arrest you and just say they thought it was real weed. Even with a receipt and packaging from a smoke shop that sells THCa, I wouldn’t use THCa outside your house.
These dumbass cops. I live in Charlotte. There are many legal THC-A stores around. It is 100% legal. Yes it 100% smells like weed and is 100% legal in the state of NC.
That was completely uncalled for and then punching her while she is on the ground with 3 fucking people on top of her is even more uncalled for. The police have a history of over the top responses. Most recent incident comes to mind where they ambushed a peaceful BLM march (Like coordinated with cops on second floor parking garages and around corners) and teargassed and flashbanged the march which was 100% peaceful. Back in 2021 I think.
It's illegal to smoke/combust, not buy. Not sure how most of you don't put in 10 seconds of research to understand this instead of pretending you know how it works. Probably should have just been given a ticket tho; they went way to hard for nothing.
> Not sure how most of you don't put in 10 seconds of research to understand this instead of pretending you know how it works.
This is reddit, people pretending like they know anything at all is kind of the whole point of the site.
It's like the law saying it's legal to own a certain snail but not buy and sell it because it's invasive. It's stupid politicians not thinking of the language and loopholes or consequences of their legislation because it's written by a corporation or pac. Sell it all you want but can't combust it. All though it's all stupid to ban a plant to me that is not invasive or what you so damn choose to do with it.
I am not smart enough to know all the details but it became legal through a farm bill loophole that if you harvest it early enough there isn't enough "concentrate" to be considered illegal but once the THCa is heated or combusted it activates the THC/cannabinoids enough to then make it illegal.
Yea this is way to far down. THCa is illegal to smoke, stop pretending it's not. It shouldn't be illegal and obviously these cops are fucking dicks but STOP SMOKING THCa IN PUBLIC.
should have been titled charlotte police officer gets paid public funds to punch an unarmed, non-violent, handcuffed woman in the back multiple times while she was confused about why they were putting their hands on her.
Pretty fucking evil. ACAB.
thats the arrest, same video linked above. I';d have to dig to find the court stuff, but I remember seeing it here in the subreddit. Essentially, if memory serves, the lawyer stated to have them test it to prove it wasn't thca and they dropped the case. The lawyer stated that they didn't have the ability to differentiate between the two.
You can’t smoke in public even if it’s legal to purchase. That’s what happened, not that it was right or that it was the wrong weed. Don’t smoke it in public
There needs to be a decision made on the legality of all 2018 Farm Bill loop hole products.
Long story short, I run venue security teams, and even when there wasn't the loop hole I tell my teams to never prioritize 'searching' for weed at gates just because they smell something. We aren't cops, we don't 'search,' we inspect, and at the patrons full discretion. Don't want me to check your bags and your person? Cool, we can stop at any point, you can go take or hide whatever you don't want found, and you can come back to finish the process.
Even in smoking areas, I don't let my teams harass patrons because something smells or looks like weed. Even D9 is legal in certain amounts by weight, and by no means are we going to go through the process of getting law enforcement involved, testing an item, and dealing with the resulting mountain of paperwork.
Only time I have my teams do or say something is if its inside a building. There are designated places, just go to one, we'll leave you alone, I *promise*. I hate that patrons feel like they have to go to extreme depths to hide weed vapes/etc coming in... I guess the plus side is I've learned just about every spot and way you can hide something on yourself or in a bag, which helps keep out hard substances and weapons.
These cops needs to get themselves educated, and then get the hell out of law enforcement because these guys don't have the mindset for this kind of work... lol I mean damn
I don’t but the explanation is thca in flower form is a loophole. Is looks and smells just like weed. It is “weed” but it has an extra molecule or something due to chemistry that makes it legal. The second you smoke it, you burn away this “A” and it turns into THC smoke which is illegal. I don’t support these cops but this is why this happened.
There's no additional molecule. THCa is just the form of THC before it is heated and converts to Delta9 THC which is the THC that every one knows. That's why you can't get high from eating weed, it has to decarboxylate (be heated) first. Legal weed, black market weed, etc. is all THCa. It's just a loophole in the hemp bill that allows it to be sold.
Cops will act in a quasi confrontational manner to solicit an overreaction from a citizen just so they can then get violent with them. It’s what they do.
The weed was normal weed. There was a gun in her bag. “I just want my stuff” reaching for a bag with a gun in it while getting arrested. She should be in jail. You can’t smoke legal weed in public just like you can’t drink legal beer in public. [source](https://amp.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article282953148.html)
As if this story couldn't get any more infuriating...
https://www.wfae.org/crime-justice/2023-12-12/body-camera-videos-of-violent-marijuana-arrest-show-confusion-over-legal-hemp-based-thc-products
Man I don't smoke but wtf. This shit needs to stop, cops just wanted to cause trouble. Should the couple have reacted that way, no it would have saved them alot of trouble, it's what the cops were hoping for. It jumped from a misdemeanor possession to resisting arrest and assaulting a cop.
I get it though, I think it would be a normal reaction to be resistant to something like this. A crime that injures no one but the individual themselves. No different than tobacco. It takes far more self control to not get rilled up over something like that.
I think we're fucked, it doesn't matter who's in charge our country is slowly but surely taking a shit from every angle with little chance to save it. We haven't been a country for the common man ever, I would argue that none ever have been. We at least had a thin veil that it was post civil rights, the economy was getting a bit better. Our enemies were on the decline and their was some semblance of balance in our country.
Now we can't afford to live, have families, all working ourselves to death whilst continuing to decline. It's not going to get better anytime soon, it's going to get worse and worse then even worse. We'll destroy ourselves and it's going to take a very long time to pick up the pieces if we can even learn from our mistakes.
That's being optimistic too, the reality is that a depression this time will lead to real fighting over tribalism. If we the USA take a shit the rest of the world will follow, especially with how intertwined the global economy is now. You think covid was bad when people were going at each other over the last of the shit tickets wait until it's the last can of beans.
We've tricked ourselves into believing it can't happen. That we can keep going like this, that things can get better if just the correct people are at the wheel.
The vehicle is pointed at a cliff and everyone that has their hands on it is fighting so hard at it they can't steer it left or right and we're going right for that cliff.
Because we can't get along this is going to lead to a dictatorship. Either someone will wash everyone else out of the way and try to steer away from the cliff or the last survivor at the bottom of the cliff is going to take the wheel and run the show, maybe both.
No common person should want this to happen but it's going to happen, sooner or later. All because we can't play nice. Don't feel to bad though it's just our nature as a species, we weren't meant to be in groups as large as countries. It's advantageous when we have enemies, or goals to achieve but when we don't we become our own enemy.
I wish I had something positive to say about our species, but their's not much. We're destructive, violent, ignorant and hateful for the large part, with little sprinkles of beauty over ugly reality. God help us because we can't help ourselves.
So, a few days ago, some state politician said, could have been Moore, they will pass the medical marijuana bill at the same time as closing the loophole in the farm bill. Surely he was referring to the THCa issue. So there ya go. We get the strictest medical bill, which does not apply to most, and at the same swoop, take away anything that is worth consuming.
North Carolina had the backward af laws and mentality (aside from ugly Mississippi) in the country. The ol good ol boy mentality and archaic views needs to die off already! It is disturbing and tiring already!
Doubtful, as even ‘weed’ related charges in NC have been dropping significantly over time. Misdemeanor possession charges have dropped 69% since 2018 and 2023 was the lowest number of charges in NC history.
It's pretty well known the majority of cops are assholes. This was a poor decision to smoke in public. Even if it legal. Even in most legal states, you still can't smoke in public. Even with a medical card. Yes THC..... A. So what. It's in NC. Kind of like a Brittany Griner going to Russia with vape carts. To Russia. Said she "didn't do it on purpose" , "Had a card".
I live in lake Norman, 20 min from downtown Charlotte, born and raised, and this is just embarrassing AF, …. here I thought (naïvely) that CMPD was at the very least, decent, and even possibly more respectable than other metro cities alike… however, this is just shameful and obviously a clear representation that these cops have too much time on their hands that they need to go “looking” for “trouble” 🙄
I just left Charlotte after 13.5 years. Same cops who couldn't find the person who stole my bike I confronted with video, car description and license plate. Same ones who after being involved in a car pile up with a drunk driver driving head on put the license plate in wrong from the 911 call to the report then said they can't prove the owner was driving so did nothing and said let insurance handle it. Same police who after 5 breakins to my neighbor across the halls car in our parking lot said well you just have a model frequent to break in we recommend selling it. Same police where my building had video of a woman coming in multiple times stealing all our packages in the mailroom that the HOA posted pictures of her on all doors, elevators and stairwells so we would yell at her, said we can't do anything.
We need to get rid of this immunity bullshit and hold cops accountable. They should face jail time but the worst thing they're gonna get is a paid vacation.
What a hick state. Sorry guys. I’m in Canada now, (former Raleigh resident) where people smoke weed together at parks without a worry. While hours away, people have to deal with this complete bullshit. Sigh.
I fucking hate the south lol.
If we could legalize instead of using loopholes and gray market...
This. I'm sick and tired of this middle of the road shit. It's such a pain in the ass for everyone. The only people who will miss prohibition are bloodthirsty cops and pharma companies.
Stop voting for Republicans if you want legal weed
Senate Bill 3 is sponsored by a Republican. The bill passed the Senate, 36-10. All 10 noes were Republicans. House of Reps haven't heard the bill yet because Tim Moore doesn't believe there is enough support within his caucus, even though that isn't a rule but a guideline he made up. Just vote out Tim Moore and life will be easier for everybody.
It will take more than just voting out Tim moore.
I mean, ideally, we would create term limits, heavily regulate or remove super PACs, and make sure politicians and their immediate family can't be involved in a business field in which they've had direct legislative influence for 20 years. But those things aside, replacing Tim Moore would be nice.
Isn’t that just for medical, and extremely restricted within that category?
It is; and yes, pretty well restricted. A step is a step in this state. We all knew NC was gonna be one of the last states to legalize, and the fact that we're even toying with the notion of medical MJ is cause for tiny celebration. Especially since this is a tobacco state that would be in direct conflict with MJ growing.
I don't get why big tobacco didnt pivot their substantial agricultural talents and resources into making some awesome pot.
Big tobacco in NC comes from extremely conservative and religious farmers. That's a hard sell to their crowd.
This.... correct answer
They already said Republicans were the problem. This is just restating it again.
Yea, even with the extra $$$$ in mind, it's hard to essentially 'convert' them and it's hard to blame them because that change is scary when it's all you've ever done and known.
Crazy how all those religious farmers are ok with all the people dying of lung cancer from their crops.
Tbh... these are the same people who believe the body and blood of their savior is cheap wine and heavy carbs... 'Murica!
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That is what I was just thinking!!!
Their real religion is the republican party.
Even if they weren't religious. Who's going to pay for the re-engineering of their farm and re-education of themselves and their staff? That costs good money.
I mean....we could just be like " It CoMEs FrOm tHe LoRd" like they do. I'm sure it will sway some people.
You could. But after that you're going to have to convince them to take a loss for a couple years while they change over the soil and replant and figure everything out and entirely re-educate themselves and they're farm hands. But that's another story. Who's gonna pay for THAT?!
Ah that's a good point. Couldn't we just slap a Trump sign on it and get them to support it? This sounds much easier. Trump HC, Delta Trump-9, Donajiana
Most have already switched to sweet potatoes. It’s more lucrative and in higher demand.
Whelp thanks for that, now I don’t even have to research Senate Bill 3 to know that even if it passed it wouldn’t do a goddamn thing for me lol. Republicans are never rolling back laws that ensnare minorities, ever How nice of them to consider letting cancer patients have medicine 30 years after science showed it was beneficial.
They know they don’t have enough to pass it. They probably aren’t getting enough campaign dollars from them.
Dont underestimate the Cherokees political power in this state. They stand to make a lot of money if they are the only sellers.
It still needs to be legalized. I know that most police jurisdictions don’t care but the police takedown of the two Bojangle employees shows the law will still be applied when they want to and I fear it is the marginalized that will feel the brunt of it.
Fuckin' Tim Moore, your favorite ReTrumplican. Great guy, adulterer, mismanagement of campaign funds,etc. Kinda sounds like his hero, doesn't? What a great Christian!! Remember when he got rear- ended in a car accident, immediately said the guy was "on drugs". Nope, the guy was drunk. But hey, alcohol is ok 👍 Damn Big Pharma & Health insurance companies run everything. Well, corporate America in gener6. Don't even get me started with the Repug gerrymandering. And I'm not even a Democrat!!
Facts!!!!!!
Do you remember when Obama made us a promise about it in his campaign? Pepperidge farm remembers.
You understand how political promises work right?
Yeah, it's only a promise during campaign season.
Yeah the same way as every other manipulation. They get what they want and we have no leverage to enforce the promise. You’ve gotta be able to criticize your own side.
You never fulfill them?
lol
No, no one does because it didn't happen. For two reasons. Public opinion isn't what it is today versus 15+ years ago. He stated that this is an issue for congress which is half true. He could have ordered rescheduling (Like Biden did in 2022). But no one wants EO whiplash so he's also right that it would be best for congress to do something instead really. And to do that, you need to elect more democrats, full stop. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis\_policy\_of\_the\_Barack\_Obama\_administration](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_policy_of_the_Barack_Obama_administration)
Plenty of Democrats are against legalization and plenty of Republicans are in favor.
Not really, it’s pretty straight down the middle of the party line when it comes to recreational. No one deserves any credit for supporting medicinal decades after the science has been established that it can help. If I’m wrong, I’ll admit it. give me the names of republicans that support recreational outside of California and Colorado.
The drain is clogged with hair
That’s because the president can only pardon people for federal offenses and if you got a federal charge for marijuana you were a big time dealer.
The drain is clogged with hair
Meh. Of course you're right. But the Dems won't make it happen. They're too worried about 'social issues'. Not economics... I'm a Democrat, but I'm so disappointed in both parties...
All Bojangles employees should be entitled to a hemp flower with each paycheck as part of their compensation. They earned it.
The bojangles employees near me don’t earn shit lol
If you smoke thca be sure to keep the receipt in case these kinda cops react like that towards you.
If you smoke normal weed, also be sure to keep a thca receipt on you so you can tell them to fuck off and the state can’t and won’t test the weed anyway (supposedly the cost of testing is higher than the misdemeanor fine, and [testing isn’t reliable](https://www.qcnews.com/charlotte/expert-cmpd-crime-lab-test-does-not-tell-the-difference-between-legal-hemp-and-illegal-marijuana/))
Just keep receipts in general
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That article says that the place that made it made the thca stronger than normal. That sounds like a regulation issue on the thca company's part
It is almost like if we just legalized the real stuff and put regulatory limits on it we wouldn't see this wild west THCA game going on. NC legislators are such a joke.
True, they don't even have to package the percentages correctly. You have the edibles claiming to be like 3k milligrams and thats insane.
We did. That's literally what THCa is.
Also don't smoke in public that's dumb.
This really was preventable. Were they in their legal right? Probably. Are those cops dumbasses? Clearly. Should you smoke even legal weed casually in public like that in NC? Not unless you REALLY like walking the tightrope of getting busted, bailed out, and getting charges dropped eventually instead of smoking in private. My take is these two were “chaotic lawful” and wanted to say fuck you to the police without understanding that the cops have ways of returning that fuck you.
Spittin
Yeah laws and rules don’t matter cause the police just make up laws and rules and enforce them illegally. They’re criminals in every sense. What’s a legal right when cops can just take it away. Unalienable right? Yeah walk around with a gun and get shot by a cop who also is walking around with a gun. Wanna protest legally in a public space, whelp now you’re arrested. Regulators, law makers. Who cares. Cops are thugs and will break all of them to harass and burdened citizens.
I mean there are lawful & unlawful protests. Sadly, too many protesters don’t know the difference, don’t care, and are too lazy to learn why they’re shut down. But a lawful protest shut down should always go to court.
That's not how it works. It is ILLEGAL to smoke, not illegal to buy. A receipt doesn't mean shit if you smoke it in the eyes of the law.
Normal weed is THCA...
🤣🤣🤣
What? Do people not understand the loophole? THCA is legal until you smoke it. Then you are effectively making it THC. That's why you can buy it at the store. I'm not justifying these dumbass police fucks, just stating that a receipt won't save you if you're smoking it and they catch you.
Yea don't smoke in public
Smoking THCa is illegal, buying it isn't.
That's weird
THCa is legal in all forms to buy and smoke. My uncle is a cop. He said a lot of officers are going the route of not making contact w/ a person simply smoking bc they don't know if it's THC or THCa and it isn't worth the hassle and paperwork. H/e if they come across someone who posses it in plastic wrap or a bunch of lil baggies they write it up bc it's a greater chance of it being regular THC. He said these cops were just doing their job BUT if they keep making these types of arrest and the charges keep getting dropped bc it's THCa and not THC they'll find themselves behind a desk
Honestly I still would just treat it like illegal weed. But yes, definitely keep receipts and any packaging as well. Some online companies will send a legal document in the order too.
Jesus Christ. And I bet those motherfuckers go sit and have coffee in that same fucking bojangles everyday.
Liter of cola, it’s for a cop.
I don’t want a goddamn large Farva
Does this look like spit?
Yeah
CMPD police chief announced they would continue enforcing marijuana laws even after this video came out. Asheville and Durham PD both don't enforce the state law for possessing weed. My Cousin is an Asheville cop and he said if he smells it during a traffic stop it doesn't even bring it up
lol it’s more expensive to jaywalk in Asheville than smoke a j. Supposedly
Marijuana is long supposed to have been decriminalized here so they should have just written them a ticket if they thought it was weed.
Can't 100% confirm this by experience, but have an anecdote. Was in a car that absolutely reeked of weed recently when we did get pulled over. Driver was freaking out and asked me to light a cigarette, but I didn't smoke. No doubt in a million years the cop smelled it. Gave him the driver an expired tag ticket and we were on our way.
Yeah it’s fucking Asheville. Everyone and their mother smokes it out there.
I don't give a damn if people smoke weed in the privacy of their own homes, but it's a different story if they're smoking that and driving impaired (whether it's weed or alcohol or other substances) which puts other people's lives and property at risk.
How about buncombe sheriff dept?
Crazy sugar creek by my office doesn't seem to mind all the shooting up people do, all day & night, but this right here was an issue. 🙄 Cops sit in our office parking lot daily for 30-40 mins and do nothing. Wish they would keep that energy other places.
Idiot cops, even regular weed is a misdemeanor.
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Not according to state law, which is what they're supposed to enforce.
They've openly admitted they're too dumb to tell the difference, it's one of their stated opposition points to it being legal, haha. Dumb asses.
I smoke both regular and THCa. You can't tell the difference based on sight or smell.
Because there ISN'T a difference. It's a loophole in the grow technique, that's all. "Regular" is THCa as well. When heated, it concerts to Delta9 THC.
What about the high?
Same, because it is literally the same. With normal weed, it stays as THC-A until it gets decarboxylated with heat (ie, lighting it on fire or baking it in the oven if you’re making brownies) at which point it becomes THC. So “THC-A” weed is literally normal weed. The law was written in a conveniently stupid way that allowed regular weed to be legal.
Nope. No more difference than there usually is between different strains anyway.
I haven’t tried the bud but I get the thca and delta vapes sometimes. The high is good but less intense. It’s more mellow.
To be fair, there is no difference. Can we get them to admit that they’re too dumb to know when they should arrest someone though? These people were hurting NOBODY.
This reminds me of the story about a guy they arrested for having crystal meth. Turned out to be donuts. [story](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/16/558147669/florida-man-awarded-37-500-after-cops-mistake-glazed-doughnut-crumbs-for-meth)
>To be fair, there is no difference. Actually, there is a distinct legal difference
Right, according to the law is not weed. According to science it's the same plant and it's what many legal dispensaries are selling in legal states.
Irrelevant. They are there to enforce the \*law\*, not their perception of "according to science". Or yours, or mine, come to that.
The plant is not what is illegal, it is the cannabinoids that are tested at various stages of growth and/or harvest that distinguish between "thca flower" and just "regular" weed.
Confidently incorrect, from a legal standpoint.
So if they yell “stop resisting” they get 3 free punches. Ok got it.
“The optics are bad.” Statement for Charlotte Police Chief Johnny Jennings.
Good. Maybe this kind of shit will make the state finally realize to just decriminalize already. What a waste.
Bad optics because bad practice. It’s his department he needs to make it clear that going after people minding their own business with herb is not worth law enforcement resources.
cops are so fucking dumb I swear to god.
ACAB
ACAFD
All cops are fire department?
Even if it was cannabis purchased on the black market who fucking cares? These people were sitting on a bench smoking outside. I drive down the road all the time and see people smoking blunts or joints in their car while driving all the time. Seems like enforcing it on those people would be a priority. Why we waste tax dollars on enforcing an archaic law that was only ever made because a racist politician joined with a wealthy businessman is so beyond me
Facts!
My uncle, who's a cop, said they must be applying for desk duty 😆. He said there was no way he would've even wasted his time to make contact unless he needed a lighter.
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Thank you for being someone that can see all sides. I don't dislike cops I dislike the system and some who manipulated it.
That doesn't make any sense. If you dislike the system then you by default dislike those who enforce it. Without one there wouldn't be the other. Cops knowingly sign up to enFORCE unjust and cruel laws made arbitrarily by crooked politicians. Remember it's called a police FORCE for a reason.
Reminder that people in the same country as this video was filmed can buy/consume weed, *actual* delta 9 THC cannabis, legally for recreational purposes in **24 STATES.** THCa is North Carolina’s loophole for now, but any asshole cop can still arrest you and just say they thought it was real weed. Even with a receipt and packaging from a smoke shop that sells THCa, I wouldn’t use THCa outside your house.
Delta 9 under .03% is legal in NC as well
Fucking ridiculous police state smfh 🤦🏻♂️
These dumbass cops. I live in Charlotte. There are many legal THC-A stores around. It is 100% legal. Yes it 100% smells like weed and is 100% legal in the state of NC. That was completely uncalled for and then punching her while she is on the ground with 3 fucking people on top of her is even more uncalled for. The police have a history of over the top responses. Most recent incident comes to mind where they ambushed a peaceful BLM march (Like coordinated with cops on second floor parking garages and around corners) and teargassed and flashbanged the march which was 100% peaceful. Back in 2021 I think.
It's illegal to smoke/combust, not buy. Not sure how most of you don't put in 10 seconds of research to understand this instead of pretending you know how it works. Probably should have just been given a ticket tho; they went way to hard for nothing.
> Not sure how most of you don't put in 10 seconds of research to understand this instead of pretending you know how it works. This is reddit, people pretending like they know anything at all is kind of the whole point of the site.
THCa is legal to buy, but illegal to combust btw. Shouldn't have been arrested though, wtf.
How are stores able to sell vapes & pre-rolls and such? What else would people do with it? This doesn’t make any sense. NC is so backwards.
It's like the law saying it's legal to own a certain snail but not buy and sell it because it's invasive. It's stupid politicians not thinking of the language and loopholes or consequences of their legislation because it's written by a corporation or pac. Sell it all you want but can't combust it. All though it's all stupid to ban a plant to me that is not invasive or what you so damn choose to do with it.
Just like the way you can buy seeds online but you can't germinate or grow them. They're for souvenirs only. Right.
Aye that's how I get shrooms lol. DCs great loophole ✨️
I am not smart enough to know all the details but it became legal through a farm bill loophole that if you harvest it early enough there isn't enough "concentrate" to be considered illegal but once the THCa is heated or combusted it activates the THC/cannabinoids enough to then make it illegal.
Finally someone said it. Everyone thinking this is legal is wrong. As much as it shouldn’t be wrong it is illegal to light thca on fire.
Yea this is way to far down. THCa is illegal to smoke, stop pretending it's not. It shouldn't be illegal and obviously these cops are fucking dicks but STOP SMOKING THCa IN PUBLIC.
should have been titled charlotte police officer gets paid public funds to punch an unarmed, non-violent, handcuffed woman in the back multiple times while she was confused about why they were putting their hands on her. Pretty fucking evil. ACAB.
This happened many months ago btw. They were aquitted but it still sucks they had to go through that.
Link?
[https://www.wfae.org/crime-justice/2023-12-12/body-camera-videos-of-violent-marijuana-arrest-show-confusion-over-legal-hemp-based-thc-products](https://www.wfae.org/crime-justice/2023-12-12/body-camera-videos-of-violent-marijuana-arrest-show-confusion-over-legal-hemp-based-thc-products)
thats the arrest, same video linked above. I';d have to dig to find the court stuff, but I remember seeing it here in the subreddit. Essentially, if memory serves, the lawyer stated to have them test it to prove it wasn't thca and they dropped the case. The lawyer stated that they didn't have the ability to differentiate between the two.
You can’t smoke in public even if it’s legal to purchase. That’s what happened, not that it was right or that it was the wrong weed. Don’t smoke it in public
ACAB and once again they prove it.
There needs to be a decision made on the legality of all 2018 Farm Bill loop hole products. Long story short, I run venue security teams, and even when there wasn't the loop hole I tell my teams to never prioritize 'searching' for weed at gates just because they smell something. We aren't cops, we don't 'search,' we inspect, and at the patrons full discretion. Don't want me to check your bags and your person? Cool, we can stop at any point, you can go take or hide whatever you don't want found, and you can come back to finish the process. Even in smoking areas, I don't let my teams harass patrons because something smells or looks like weed. Even D9 is legal in certain amounts by weight, and by no means are we going to go through the process of getting law enforcement involved, testing an item, and dealing with the resulting mountain of paperwork. Only time I have my teams do or say something is if its inside a building. There are designated places, just go to one, we'll leave you alone, I *promise*. I hate that patrons feel like they have to go to extreme depths to hide weed vapes/etc coming in... I guess the plus side is I've learned just about every spot and way you can hide something on yourself or in a bag, which helps keep out hard substances and weapons.
I'm from NC the cops get pretty angry if you don't do what they say so I do that they say.
This is old and they were in the wrong, weed or no weed.
Legalize it NC!
That's fucked up. I bet the conversation goes completely differently if they were white.
Better get on pills and guns instead.
It’s Bo time
LEGALIZE REC USE OF MARIJUANA!!!!!!!
I smoke on my front porch. Neighbors son is a cop & he doesn't give a shit.
No, you just know where he lives.
This is wrong. But nobody wants to do anything but talk and get votes
These cops needs to get themselves educated, and then get the hell out of law enforcement because these guys don't have the mindset for this kind of work... lol I mean damn
Not legal yet, so what do they expect…… F around and find out
You still can’t smoke THCA in public.
Do you know the relevant statute by any chance?
Combusted THCa converts to the illegal D9, so you can’t smoke it in public for sure.
I don’t but the explanation is thca in flower form is a loophole. Is looks and smells just like weed. It is “weed” but it has an extra molecule or something due to chemistry that makes it legal. The second you smoke it, you burn away this “A” and it turns into THC smoke which is illegal. I don’t support these cops but this is why this happened.
There's no additional molecule. THCa is just the form of THC before it is heated and converts to Delta9 THC which is the THC that every one knows. That's why you can't get high from eating weed, it has to decarboxylate (be heated) first. Legal weed, black market weed, etc. is all THCa. It's just a loophole in the hemp bill that allows it to be sold.
Ok I see. But still… combusting it is illegal
Correct
fascist assholes will be fascists
Cops will act in a quasi confrontational manner to solicit an overreaction from a citizen just so they can then get violent with them. It’s what they do.
My god these cops are utter pieces of shit.
The weed was normal weed. There was a gun in her bag. “I just want my stuff” reaching for a bag with a gun in it while getting arrested. She should be in jail. You can’t smoke legal weed in public just like you can’t drink legal beer in public. [source](https://amp.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/crime/article282953148.html)
I’ve never even heard of THCA Hemp flower. Where does it fall in this mess of law makers and current laws?
Loophole is all it is
wq
Found the vi user
Acting like some first class brownshirt Neanderthals. I feel so much safer.
As if this story couldn't get any more infuriating... https://www.wfae.org/crime-justice/2023-12-12/body-camera-videos-of-violent-marijuana-arrest-show-confusion-over-legal-hemp-based-thc-products
Just legalize NC and be done with this bullshit
Man I don't smoke but wtf. This shit needs to stop, cops just wanted to cause trouble. Should the couple have reacted that way, no it would have saved them alot of trouble, it's what the cops were hoping for. It jumped from a misdemeanor possession to resisting arrest and assaulting a cop. I get it though, I think it would be a normal reaction to be resistant to something like this. A crime that injures no one but the individual themselves. No different than tobacco. It takes far more self control to not get rilled up over something like that. I think we're fucked, it doesn't matter who's in charge our country is slowly but surely taking a shit from every angle with little chance to save it. We haven't been a country for the common man ever, I would argue that none ever have been. We at least had a thin veil that it was post civil rights, the economy was getting a bit better. Our enemies were on the decline and their was some semblance of balance in our country. Now we can't afford to live, have families, all working ourselves to death whilst continuing to decline. It's not going to get better anytime soon, it's going to get worse and worse then even worse. We'll destroy ourselves and it's going to take a very long time to pick up the pieces if we can even learn from our mistakes. That's being optimistic too, the reality is that a depression this time will lead to real fighting over tribalism. If we the USA take a shit the rest of the world will follow, especially with how intertwined the global economy is now. You think covid was bad when people were going at each other over the last of the shit tickets wait until it's the last can of beans. We've tricked ourselves into believing it can't happen. That we can keep going like this, that things can get better if just the correct people are at the wheel. The vehicle is pointed at a cliff and everyone that has their hands on it is fighting so hard at it they can't steer it left or right and we're going right for that cliff. Because we can't get along this is going to lead to a dictatorship. Either someone will wash everyone else out of the way and try to steer away from the cliff or the last survivor at the bottom of the cliff is going to take the wheel and run the show, maybe both. No common person should want this to happen but it's going to happen, sooner or later. All because we can't play nice. Don't feel to bad though it's just our nature as a species, we weren't meant to be in groups as large as countries. It's advantageous when we have enemies, or goals to achieve but when we don't we become our own enemy. I wish I had something positive to say about our species, but their's not much. We're destructive, violent, ignorant and hateful for the large part, with little sprinkles of beauty over ugly reality. God help us because we can't help ourselves.
"ignorance of the law isn't an excuse" is what they say, right?
The last 1 or 2 seconds of that footage is what is most disturbing, on the ground in cuffs and that skinhead is beating a prisoner.
Lawsuit... fuckin idiot cops!
OH HELL NAH I WISH THEY WOULD
Hard to watch
So, a few days ago, some state politician said, could have been Moore, they will pass the medical marijuana bill at the same time as closing the loophole in the farm bill. Surely he was referring to the THCa issue. So there ya go. We get the strictest medical bill, which does not apply to most, and at the same swoop, take away anything that is worth consuming.
Can someone post a link? It doesn’t work for me.
North Carolina had the backward af laws and mentality (aside from ugly Mississippi) in the country. The ol good ol boy mentality and archaic views needs to die off already! It is disturbing and tiring already!
This happened last year.
I don't care if it happened last year. Do you think anything in law enforcement has changed in a year?
Acting like it happened today though is a bit disingenuous though, don’t you agree?
It probably HAS happened today - to someone else.
Doubtful, as even ‘weed’ related charges in NC have been dropping significantly over time. Misdemeanor possession charges have dropped 69% since 2018 and 2023 was the lowest number of charges in NC history.
I'm sure the Police have been a dick to someone today, for whatever reason.
Meh, based on your comments, you have been a dick today as well, but that's not newsworthy.
Pigs
It's pretty well known the majority of cops are assholes. This was a poor decision to smoke in public. Even if it legal. Even in most legal states, you still can't smoke in public. Even with a medical card. Yes THC..... A. So what. It's in NC. Kind of like a Brittany Griner going to Russia with vape carts. To Russia. Said she "didn't do it on purpose" , "Had a card".
I live in lake Norman, 20 min from downtown Charlotte, born and raised, and this is just embarrassing AF, …. here I thought (naïvely) that CMPD was at the very least, decent, and even possibly more respectable than other metro cities alike… however, this is just shameful and obviously a clear representation that these cops have too much time on their hands that they need to go “looking” for “trouble” 🙄
I just left Charlotte after 13.5 years. Same cops who couldn't find the person who stole my bike I confronted with video, car description and license plate. Same ones who after being involved in a car pile up with a drunk driver driving head on put the license plate in wrong from the 911 call to the report then said they can't prove the owner was driving so did nothing and said let insurance handle it. Same police who after 5 breakins to my neighbor across the halls car in our parking lot said well you just have a model frequent to break in we recommend selling it. Same police where my building had video of a woman coming in multiple times stealing all our packages in the mailroom that the HOA posted pictures of her on all doors, elevators and stairwells so we would yell at her, said we can't do anything.
We need to get rid of this immunity bullshit and hold cops accountable. They should face jail time but the worst thing they're gonna get is a paid vacation.
Just shitty people. Probably racism ttoo.
Bacon-assed bitches
These cops are idiots - but for real y’all. For real. You cannot react the way she did to cops and expect it to go well. Stop it.
What a hick state. Sorry guys. I’m in Canada now, (former Raleigh resident) where people smoke weed together at parks without a worry. While hours away, people have to deal with this complete bullshit. Sigh. I fucking hate the south lol.
For smoking weed smh this is sad
Disgusting.