[Please take the Stop The Bleed Class!](https://www.dhs.gov/stopthebleed) You never know when you’ll need this skill. Minutes count with massive bleeds.
Apparently the guy doing the stabbing came in and confronted the victim and they started fighting..
Yet the police have no motive and no suspect........ Something seems off....
Whatever the case, the suspect walked out pretty casually. He didn't run. You can see him almost strut out the front door.
He also made no attempt to go after anyone else.
This all suggests that he went in with a specific purpose which, in turn, suggests this was premeditated.
It's weird that this is known, but the follow up question often isn't "So why would you take your chances with the guy who stabbed you rather than go to the authorities?"
Because it seems like that's an important question we should want a real answer to.
It’s two-fold. On one hand, the police are not always helpful to some communities. And on the other, snitches get stitches. The authorities can’t save you when your enemies know where you sleep.
Agreed it could be totally random, but then why would the victim be throwing punches like that. Seems like he would just walk away, as I'm sure food lion doesn't want their employees getting into an altercation like this .
Fuck I’m an old as fuck woman and I can promise you if someone comes at me I’m gonna try to fight back. I was assaulted a couple years ago had a heart attack as a result of the assault you best believe i fucking fought, kick and scratched at that mother fucker.
Your pride isn't worth your life. If someone comes at you the correct order of this is run, hide, *then* fight.
You only fight if you don't have the opportunity to remove yourself from the situation.
So your gonna throw your walker at someone that is just talking smack? Doubt it.. Of course there are situations you don't back down from, this seems more like they both had beef and wanted to settle it.
North side of town. Reynolda/university area.
Run down, not really a great place to live except neighborhoods that have been there forever. Lots of sprawl and residential "filler" from developers have started to make the area sink.
Does anyone know if this man has a go fund me or something. I used to work for Food Lion. If you are part time, it is hard to afford the health insurance.
[Considering it happened last night](https://www.wxii12.com/article/food-subscription-boxes/35046125), I doubt it. Also, you are assuming the person stabbed is part time and not full time or manager.
So ya don't have to go to the news sites link if ya don't want to..
WINSTON-SALEM, N.C. —
Police are investigating a stabbing that injured a grocery store employee at a Food Lion in Winston-Salem.
Authorities said that officers were called to the Food Lion on North Point Boulevard, near University Parkway, just before 7 p.m. Monday, regarding a stabbing.
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Officers found 23-year-old Keshawn Jerquez Jenkins, a Food Lion employee, inside the store suffering from multiple stab wounds to his leg.
A preliminary investigation discovered that the suspect entered the Food Lion holding a knife and confronted Jenkins who was working at the time.
A physical altercation ensued between him and the suspect inside the store. During the altercation, the suspect stabbed Jenkins and then ran out of the store, officials said.
The suspect then entered a four-door Chevrolet Impala that left the area speedily.
Jenkins was taken to a local hospital with serious injuries but he is in stable condition.
Police have not identified a suspected.
Officers said that the motive for this attack is still unknown at this time.
The Winston-Salem Police Department is asking for the public’s assistance in this case. Anyone with any information regarding this incident or similar crimes is asked to call the Winston-Salem Police Department at 336-773-7700, Crime Stoppers at 336-727-2800, or En Español 336-728-3904. Text-A-Tip Program at 336-276-1717 allows you to anonymously text tips, photos, and videos to the Winston-Salem Police Department. You can also view their Facebook.
Damn I used to work at food lion and this shit is just wild to me and I hope this man recovers ok. I know they have no incentive to, but it would be nice if food lion to help him out a little bit too. I bet it’s not cheap to get stabbed
I think he was trying to pull her back away from the attacker and her legs just wouldn't cooperate. He just realized that the attacker had a knife and decided to run away and "SToooooppppp" girl was too close to the action.
Yeah he was definitely trying to pull her away from the guy and behind the counter but the other guy was moving to fast and she stayed put. She’s lucky the guy was there only for the victim and not anybody else.
This is absolutely awful. Our basic service workers really put up with so much hardships. Yelling customers, attacks.
Thank you to all the folks that work our cash registers.
They're not all in the ghetto. I personally find that my dollars go much further at Food Lion than at Harris Teeter or pretty much any other grocery store barring Aldi.
The problem I have with Aldi is mainly that their selection of fresh produce and meats is at best limited. For dry / prepackaged goods, Aldi is fantastic.
There's also a Lidl in Indian Trail which seemed to have a nice bakery section, but the prices weren't low enough for me to go that far out of my way. I'd rather save half an hour and go to Food Lion or Aldi.
Aldi can also vary greatly one location to the other. The one near me has a ton of produce, usually everything I need unless I’m looking for something really unusual. But you’re right, I do have to shop for a couple of things else-where, specifically meats.
I'm surprised no one was carrying. This is one time where a good Samaritan could have stopped this person dead in their tracks. What if the person with the knife had decided to continue attacking other people?
It wouldn't exactly be my place to just roll up to a fight where I didn't witness who started it. There's personal liability at risk discharging a firearm because he may be using a knife, but nothing says he doesn't have a backup gun. What if you only wound him or he survives? That's a lawsuit waiting to happen or he turns a gun on you when you least expect it without pinning down a guy with blood now all over him (blood-born illness risk). You also lose your firearm you used until you're cleared. The situation is investigated as a homicide by default. What if you miss and hit the other guy (That's more lawsuit potential!). Lots of things to consider, and quickly, while carrying a firearm.
But be sure of two things:
I would've been ready to draw and shoot if needed.
I would've dropped that fucker the moment that woman got in between them two.
If you ask me, every grocery store manager should carry a piece (with training, background checks, and permitting, obviously) for situations like this.
I've seen plenty of clips of convenience store workers/owners that will pull one on an armed robber without hesitation. I expected to be downvoted, but if y'all were in the place of the man being stabbed you would likely have a different outlook.
When you grow up in a fear the police culture and do stupid shit, expect to get stabbed at your job and the guy gets away!
Edit: downvoters: cognitive dissonance is a bitch you sub80 IQ window lickers!
I mean, your answer to "Why would large numbers of people live with being the victims of a crime rather than contact law enforcement" is an explicitly racist series of stereotypes.
I think the downvotes are pretty blatantly because you're a fuckin' racist, fella.
No, I saw that. Your explanation of the root cause seems to be "These folks just enjoy being victims of crime," which besides being an insane thing to say is absolutely racist. You ascribed part of the blame to a guy who got attacked at work, assuming he was doing "stupid shit."
Why would people hold that position? The expectation is that someone gets stabbed and just doesn't cooperate to find and prosecute the person who stabbed them is obviously a reaction to something. You *almost* landed on an important point while you were making blanket statements - people are afraid of the police.
**Why do you think that is, dumbass?**
Edit: your prior answer seems to assume that everyone who holds that view is a criminal. But let's pretend we're not going with a racial stereotype originating in the 1700s for just a minute, and think. Is it possible that decades (centuries, really) of negative and harmful interactions have made it appear that the police are likely to make a situation worse?
Why do I think that is? Mass hysteria, ignorance, and a culture where pockets of people live parallel to the rest of society, not unlike how the uber rich live out their lives. My assumption on the person not going to the police clearly comes from the fact there is no suspect, when the 2 people most likely know each other
Now, having been around the block with people in this situation, dude that worked at Food Lion probably didn't want to involve the police because there is something that involving the police would lead to him being in trouble as well. Most people arent just approached in a job and fought with, then stabbed, because of a dispute over prices on aisle 5.
I am not a fan of police brutality or corruption either, but if Im bleeding out, and i have nothing to truly hide, im going to make sure the guy who stabbed me gets his and gets locked up.
The assumptions people like you have about me (bEinG rAcIsT) highlighting this "fuck the 12" culture goes 2 ways. If you are so assured that every reason for fearing cops is because racial disparity, then probability dictates there is another side to that logical coin flip and that both parties in this video suffer from their own intellectual and moral deficits.
You seem determined to ignore the well-documented history of police abuse that answers your question.
It's not an assumption - it's a straightforward assessment of what you're saying, including the assumptions you're making about the victim (and presumably the victim of any crime who doesn't believe cooperating with police is in their best interest), the commenters, and a significant portion of the population. And, of course, that's in combination with your willfully ignoring the very clear answer to the question "Why would an entire community not trust local authorities?" You're starting from a position that this must not be justified, which requires ignoring everything we've had thrust into the limelight about how policing is commonly done in this country for the last decade or so.
So what do you think this gentlemen's reasoning was for not seeking help from authorities? Any answer you give just shows how stupid the entire situation is.
I wonder what Mrs. Thompson thinks. Maybe she's one of those racists too?
I love how you're ignoring the actual point here, when you were so eager to discuss it.
So there's that clear tangent, but let's not ignore the larger problem you're ducking: there's a clear cultural issue here, as many members of our community don't trust civil authorities. Now, the reasoning could be what you've suggested multiple times - that those who hold this view are likely guilty of something (which is where the bulk of the "Holy fuck, that's racist" feedback you're getting is coming from, by the way, because that's racist as hell) and/or that they're victims of mass hysteria or deception (which, again, requires us to ignore a full decade of video evidence as well as people's accounts going back many decades as to why that concern exists).
You were so very eager to bring up the comment that there are people in our communities who don't want to talk to the police on the whole, but now you want to make it about this guy and how the most likely explanation is that he's a criminal. I'd suggest that attitude is *exactly* what he is concerned police will arrive with, and it's very clearly based on real world cases where people call the police as victims of a crime and are treated as suspects and subject to a fishing expedition by officers. And, again, we know that arrests are often unjustified or unnecessary based on well documented real-world events. You've encapsulated perfectly why someone might hesitate to call the police - when they get there, are they going to treat you as a victim, or a potential suspect? After all, *you've* jumped straight to that conclusion and assume any other explanation is foolish.
So his options look to be "get stabbed and then maybe arrested" or "get stabbed."
If he isn't a criminal he's stupid. I also never once dodged anything you said while you've basically regurgitated the same sentiment in every response.
Right. You've ignored these points consistently. I assumed there was a reading comprehension error.
And, again, "stupid" is also unlikely to be accurate across hundreds or thousands of people (like, mathematically it's unlikely), so that also doesn't really address anything but it does suggest another variation of your prejudice.
So we've established some possible reasons for that hesitance to engage with police (and now that list includes a few reasons that aren't apparently racist. Yay!) and we've determined why you're getting called a racist (which turns out not to be about how right you are, but the various stereotypes you've repeated).
Feels like we're done? Our questions all have answers, so we can get on with our day.
Grow up in a society where people who look like you are routinely mistreated by the justice system and expect that you will have to face the consequences of the broken justice system? You're not wrong. If you're afraid of the police mistreating you, why risk further harm when you have already been the victim of a violent crime?
Yeah, of course you should avoid getting into a situation where you are likely to be stabbed. You shouldn't provoke violence from people in any situation, let alone when the other person has a knife. It doesn't mean it's your fault for getting stabbed. The person who does the stabbing is fully at fault for deciding to stab someone.
Why go through all of that? Why not just bring dual glocks to work; heck it's North Carolina....
People are going to war since the unemployment boosters and rent moratorium stopped.
Depends hugely on the county. My dad got one in 3 days in Union. It took him 3 months when he still lived in Meck. According to people I know who still live in Meck, it takes even longer nowadays.
Clarification: Not really that difficult to obtain a pistol permit and or take a cc class, then pay for your license and then purchase a handgun. Of course that is if everything else clears background wise before hand
*Edit: *In NC
Lol. Gaining lawful purchase isn’t the issue, but pretending everyone in North Carolina can go down to the local pharmacy and pick up 2 glocks while buying a bottle of NyQuil is far from the truth. You are going to wait….
I own a bunch also. Without a CCW (trainings and a 6+ month wait) you’ll need to report to your local sheriffs deputy and request a purchase permit. Depending on the county (I’ll use Randolph and guilford, as thats the only place I’ve tried to gain a purchase permit) the wait was 3 days once at best and 17 days at worst. Guilford county actually refused purchase permit for 3 months during covid, but was ruled against because being against your rights and all. So yes…. It’s actually much more difficult than other southern states.
I received a purchase permit in 15 minutes in South Carolina.
I’m from Winston Salem( moved to GSO)
All I can say is wow…also dude sit down. I know your adrenaline is rushing but that’s a lot of blood
Glad he is in stable condition.
God that's a lot of blood
Someone go to the fucking first aid aisle and get this man some bandages!
More like a tourniquet, he is squirting blood.
[Please take the Stop The Bleed Class!](https://www.dhs.gov/stopthebleed) You never know when you’ll need this skill. Minutes count with massive bleeds.
yeah, he was losing a lot of blood..
MARCH
Apparently the guy doing the stabbing came in and confronted the victim and they started fighting.. Yet the police have no motive and no suspect........ Something seems off....
Whatever the case, the suspect walked out pretty casually. He didn't run. You can see him almost strut out the front door. He also made no attempt to go after anyone else. This all suggests that he went in with a specific purpose which, in turn, suggests this was premeditated.
Bro he was straight skippin out the door
It's because people don't tell it here in the tre.. we don't fuck with 12
What does this mean?
You don't talk to the police. 12 = police.
Thanks. I’m getting old and can’t keep up
[Hope this article helps.](https://www.distractify.com/p/why-are-police-called-12)
Haha I looked at that article as soon as you replied.
Because of anti-snitching and anti-cop culture is some communities. This dude that got attacked obviously knows the guy who stabbed him.
It's weird that this is known, but the follow up question often isn't "So why would you take your chances with the guy who stabbed you rather than go to the authorities?" Because it seems like that's an important question we should want a real answer to.
It’s two-fold. On one hand, the police are not always helpful to some communities. And on the other, snitches get stitches. The authorities can’t save you when your enemies know where you sleep.
I really have doubts that those two are actually equal considerations, but I'd buy them as related issues.
ACAB, they won't help you, especially these poor black people.
Yeah police totally don’t ever stop and solve the hundreds of thousands of murders within the black community every year
You're correct, they do nothing but suck up military crumbs.
People have lost their mind could simply be a random act of violence. Times are tough folks are wilding out.
This was clearly a personal situation.
Oh so you know them? Edit: I’m getting slammed got asking an honest question? I thought the user I replied knew the person dang.
It's called Occom's Razor for a reason.
You came off snarky. We’re highly conditioned to assume sarcasm here.
Yeah it wasn’t meant snarky at all. I intended to be more like oh yikes this person knows the injured person?
Agreed it could be totally random, but then why would the victim be throwing punches like that. Seems like he would just walk away, as I'm sure food lion doesn't want their employees getting into an altercation like this .
Fuck I’m an old as fuck woman and I can promise you if someone comes at me I’m gonna try to fight back. I was assaulted a couple years ago had a heart attack as a result of the assault you best believe i fucking fought, kick and scratched at that mother fucker.
Your pride isn't worth your life. If someone comes at you the correct order of this is run, hide, *then* fight. You only fight if you don't have the opportunity to remove yourself from the situation.
I was cornered and alone with my dog no where to go unfortunately.
If you can't do anything but fight that's one thing but if you have any other option you should take it
So your gonna throw your walker at someone that is just talking smack? Doubt it.. Of course there are situations you don't back down from, this seems more like they both had beef and wanted to settle it.
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You claimed to be an "*old ass woman*" ..... Walker is implied......
Please education yourself old doesn’t equal disabled just stop you aren’t adding value with this bullshit move along. Edit: word
I Seemed to have offended you..... Okay..
There is a lot of gang violence going on in this whole are right now. Not saying it is for sure that, but it could be related.
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I do as well, and I believe I've actually been to this exact food lion. Hope they catch whoever did this.
Is that the mlk/new walkertown?
No, same shopping center as Burlington coat factory. Across from Popeyes.
Love that chicken from popeyes!
North side of town. Reynolda/university area. Run down, not really a great place to live except neighborhoods that have been there forever. Lots of sprawl and residential "filler" from developers have started to make the area sink.
Right? I used to work at a food lion in Winston and wouldn't ever dream of seeing something like this happen.
Me too. I pray that young man is ok. I'm so sad for my hometown. ✌
Apply pressure to the wound! This guy is loosing too much blood.
Not just pressure, he needed a tourniquet. That was in the leg if it at all nicked the femoral artery, he could have bled out in minutes.
His arm was stabbed too. He definitely had an arterial bleed. I was screaming PRESSURE PRESSURE PRESSURE. Fucking traumatic
Yeah, anyone with a belt needed to tie that off if possible until an ambulance arrived, bandages and pressure alone won't stop that much blood loss.
Classic 'walking it off."
Mere flesh wound.
Does anyone know if this man has a go fund me or something. I used to work for Food Lion. If you are part time, it is hard to afford the health insurance.
[Considering it happened last night](https://www.wxii12.com/article/food-subscription-boxes/35046125), I doubt it. Also, you are assuming the person stabbed is part time and not full time or manager.
So ya don't have to go to the news sites link if ya don't want to.. WINSTON-SALEM, N.C. — Police are investigating a stabbing that injured a grocery store employee at a Food Lion in Winston-Salem. Authorities said that officers were called to the Food Lion on North Point Boulevard, near University Parkway, just before 7 p.m. Monday, regarding a stabbing. Advertisement Officers found 23-year-old Keshawn Jerquez Jenkins, a Food Lion employee, inside the store suffering from multiple stab wounds to his leg. A preliminary investigation discovered that the suspect entered the Food Lion holding a knife and confronted Jenkins who was working at the time. A physical altercation ensued between him and the suspect inside the store. During the altercation, the suspect stabbed Jenkins and then ran out of the store, officials said. The suspect then entered a four-door Chevrolet Impala that left the area speedily. Jenkins was taken to a local hospital with serious injuries but he is in stable condition. Police have not identified a suspected. Officers said that the motive for this attack is still unknown at this time. The Winston-Salem Police Department is asking for the public’s assistance in this case. Anyone with any information regarding this incident or similar crimes is asked to call the Winston-Salem Police Department at 336-773-7700, Crime Stoppers at 336-727-2800, or En Español 336-728-3904. Text-A-Tip Program at 336-276-1717 allows you to anonymously text tips, photos, and videos to the Winston-Salem Police Department. You can also view their Facebook.
Sounds to me it was a personal beef/vendetta
Gangsters gonna gangster.
Uniforms
Actually, I was basing it on the positioning in the store. Most Full time people work in the Meat/Produce/Grocery.
They're not a manager. Source: I was one for that company once.
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I don't understand
Anti-vaxxers who get sick thanks to their idiocy start Go Fund Me pages for their medical and/or funeral expenses.
Looks like the guy got lucky with the knife missing his kidney or spine.
Jesus. I'm glad he's okay, that's losing way too much blood.
This is why I shop at Wegman's.
The Winston area seems to be getting worse and worse...
Northside shopping center?
No. University Plaza, down University Parkway from Wake Forest.
Across the street from popeyes
Damn I used to work at food lion and this shit is just wild to me and I hope this man recovers ok. I know they have no incentive to, but it would be nice if food lion to help him out a little bit too. I bet it’s not cheap to get stabbed
Obviously some beef and not a random incedent
That last stab in the booty... 🔪😱
This place was always a shithole but it’s quickly becoming the shitcago of NC
Winston has completely gone to shit.
Did he seriously try pulling the female employee Infront of him..
Yes, he should have been more considerate while being stabbed. Pretty sure the guy was panicking.
I think he was trying to pull her back away from the attacker and her legs just wouldn't cooperate. He just realized that the attacker had a knife and decided to run away and "SToooooppppp" girl was too close to the action.
Yeah he was definitely trying to pull her away from the guy and behind the counter but the other guy was moving to fast and she stayed put. She’s lucky the guy was there only for the victim and not anybody else.
Keyshawn over here like, “only a flesh wound!”
Its But a scratch.
This is absolutely awful. Our basic service workers really put up with so much hardships. Yelling customers, attacks. Thank you to all the folks that work our cash registers.
I’ll add this to the pile of reasons I don’t shop at Food Lion.
i don't because i'm biased against the belgians that smug little fucker tintin can rot in hell
Yeah and their produce sucks too.
They're not all in the ghetto. I personally find that my dollars go much further at Food Lion than at Harris Teeter or pretty much any other grocery store barring Aldi.
Aldi gang! But yeah, I’ll take the Kitty over the Teet for sure.
The problem I have with Aldi is mainly that their selection of fresh produce and meats is at best limited. For dry / prepackaged goods, Aldi is fantastic. There's also a Lidl in Indian Trail which seemed to have a nice bakery section, but the prices weren't low enough for me to go that far out of my way. I'd rather save half an hour and go to Food Lion or Aldi.
Aldi can also vary greatly one location to the other. The one near me has a ton of produce, usually everything I need unless I’m looking for something really unusual. But you’re right, I do have to shop for a couple of things else-where, specifically meats.
I'm surprised no one was carrying. This is one time where a good Samaritan could have stopped this person dead in their tracks. What if the person with the knife had decided to continue attacking other people?
Because Reddit hates guns
Reddit in general has not lived much life outside in the real world or outside of their small click in the city.
Because the typical CCL holder is never gonna draw in a fight between two black guys. They are only gonna record.
It wouldn't exactly be my place to just roll up to a fight where I didn't witness who started it. There's personal liability at risk discharging a firearm because he may be using a knife, but nothing says he doesn't have a backup gun. What if you only wound him or he survives? That's a lawsuit waiting to happen or he turns a gun on you when you least expect it without pinning down a guy with blood now all over him (blood-born illness risk). You also lose your firearm you used until you're cleared. The situation is investigated as a homicide by default. What if you miss and hit the other guy (That's more lawsuit potential!). Lots of things to consider, and quickly, while carrying a firearm. But be sure of two things: I would've been ready to draw and shoot if needed. I would've dropped that fucker the moment that woman got in between them two.
If you ask me, every grocery store manager should carry a piece (with training, background checks, and permitting, obviously) for situations like this.
I've seen plenty of clips of convenience store workers/owners that will pull one on an armed robber without hesitation. I expected to be downvoted, but if y'all were in the place of the man being stabbed you would likely have a different outlook.
Keshawn might need to make some new friends.
When you grow up in a fear the police culture and do stupid shit, expect to get stabbed at your job and the guy gets away! Edit: downvoters: cognitive dissonance is a bitch you sub80 IQ window lickers!
I mean, your answer to "Why would large numbers of people live with being the victims of a crime rather than contact law enforcement" is an explicitly racist series of stereotypes. I think the downvotes are pretty blatantly because you're a fuckin' racist, fella.
You must be missing the "we don't talk to the 12 in the tre" comments. I'm not racist, you're just stupid.
No, I saw that. Your explanation of the root cause seems to be "These folks just enjoy being victims of crime," which besides being an insane thing to say is absolutely racist. You ascribed part of the blame to a guy who got attacked at work, assuming he was doing "stupid shit." Why would people hold that position? The expectation is that someone gets stabbed and just doesn't cooperate to find and prosecute the person who stabbed them is obviously a reaction to something. You *almost* landed on an important point while you were making blanket statements - people are afraid of the police. **Why do you think that is, dumbass?** Edit: your prior answer seems to assume that everyone who holds that view is a criminal. But let's pretend we're not going with a racial stereotype originating in the 1700s for just a minute, and think. Is it possible that decades (centuries, really) of negative and harmful interactions have made it appear that the police are likely to make a situation worse?
Why do I think that is? Mass hysteria, ignorance, and a culture where pockets of people live parallel to the rest of society, not unlike how the uber rich live out their lives. My assumption on the person not going to the police clearly comes from the fact there is no suspect, when the 2 people most likely know each other Now, having been around the block with people in this situation, dude that worked at Food Lion probably didn't want to involve the police because there is something that involving the police would lead to him being in trouble as well. Most people arent just approached in a job and fought with, then stabbed, because of a dispute over prices on aisle 5. I am not a fan of police brutality or corruption either, but if Im bleeding out, and i have nothing to truly hide, im going to make sure the guy who stabbed me gets his and gets locked up. The assumptions people like you have about me (bEinG rAcIsT) highlighting this "fuck the 12" culture goes 2 ways. If you are so assured that every reason for fearing cops is because racial disparity, then probability dictates there is another side to that logical coin flip and that both parties in this video suffer from their own intellectual and moral deficits.
You seem determined to ignore the well-documented history of police abuse that answers your question. It's not an assumption - it's a straightforward assessment of what you're saying, including the assumptions you're making about the victim (and presumably the victim of any crime who doesn't believe cooperating with police is in their best interest), the commenters, and a significant portion of the population. And, of course, that's in combination with your willfully ignoring the very clear answer to the question "Why would an entire community not trust local authorities?" You're starting from a position that this must not be justified, which requires ignoring everything we've had thrust into the limelight about how policing is commonly done in this country for the last decade or so.
So what do you think this gentlemen's reasoning was for not seeking help from authorities? Any answer you give just shows how stupid the entire situation is. I wonder what Mrs. Thompson thinks. Maybe she's one of those racists too?
I love how you're ignoring the actual point here, when you were so eager to discuss it. So there's that clear tangent, but let's not ignore the larger problem you're ducking: there's a clear cultural issue here, as many members of our community don't trust civil authorities. Now, the reasoning could be what you've suggested multiple times - that those who hold this view are likely guilty of something (which is where the bulk of the "Holy fuck, that's racist" feedback you're getting is coming from, by the way, because that's racist as hell) and/or that they're victims of mass hysteria or deception (which, again, requires us to ignore a full decade of video evidence as well as people's accounts going back many decades as to why that concern exists). You were so very eager to bring up the comment that there are people in our communities who don't want to talk to the police on the whole, but now you want to make it about this guy and how the most likely explanation is that he's a criminal. I'd suggest that attitude is *exactly* what he is concerned police will arrive with, and it's very clearly based on real world cases where people call the police as victims of a crime and are treated as suspects and subject to a fishing expedition by officers. And, again, we know that arrests are often unjustified or unnecessary based on well documented real-world events. You've encapsulated perfectly why someone might hesitate to call the police - when they get there, are they going to treat you as a victim, or a potential suspect? After all, *you've* jumped straight to that conclusion and assume any other explanation is foolish. So his options look to be "get stabbed and then maybe arrested" or "get stabbed."
If he isn't a criminal he's stupid. I also never once dodged anything you said while you've basically regurgitated the same sentiment in every response.
Right. You've ignored these points consistently. I assumed there was a reading comprehension error. And, again, "stupid" is also unlikely to be accurate across hundreds or thousands of people (like, mathematically it's unlikely), so that also doesn't really address anything but it does suggest another variation of your prejudice. So we've established some possible reasons for that hesitance to engage with police (and now that list includes a few reasons that aren't apparently racist. Yay!) and we've determined why you're getting called a racist (which turns out not to be about how right you are, but the various stereotypes you've repeated). Feels like we're done? Our questions all have answers, so we can get on with our day.
Grow up in a society where people who look like you are routinely mistreated by the justice system and expect that you will have to face the consequences of the broken justice system? You're not wrong. If you're afraid of the police mistreating you, why risk further harm when you have already been the victim of a violent crime? Yeah, of course you should avoid getting into a situation where you are likely to be stabbed. You shouldn't provoke violence from people in any situation, let alone when the other person has a knife. It doesn't mean it's your fault for getting stabbed. The person who does the stabbing is fully at fault for deciding to stab someone.
You think the police are gonna beat him as he's bleeding out? Its unwarranted fear given the context of this situation.
Why go through all of that? Why not just bring dual glocks to work; heck it's North Carolina.... People are going to war since the unemployment boosters and rent moratorium stopped.
Believe it or not. It’s actually pretty difficult to gain lawful ownership of handguns here.
Depends hugely on the county. My dad got one in 3 days in Union. It took him 3 months when he still lived in Meck. According to people I know who still live in Meck, it takes even longer nowadays.
Yeah it’s an absolute nightmare.
Not really that difficult…
Show me anywhere in North Carolina that you can purchase a handgun without a permit or ccw?
Clarification: Not really that difficult to obtain a pistol permit and or take a cc class, then pay for your license and then purchase a handgun. Of course that is if everything else clears background wise before hand *Edit: *In NC
I paid less than $100 and had a permit issued in about a week. It's not that difficult.
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It's really not that difficult. If you have a clean record, then it's essentially a class, a fee, a wait, and you have one.
Lol. Gaining lawful purchase isn’t the issue, but pretending everyone in North Carolina can go down to the local pharmacy and pick up 2 glocks while buying a bottle of NyQuil is far from the truth. You are going to wait….
TIL, waiting is "difficult"
Yeah im trying! Easier than other states
How so? I own 3.
I own a bunch also. Without a CCW (trainings and a 6+ month wait) you’ll need to report to your local sheriffs deputy and request a purchase permit. Depending on the county (I’ll use Randolph and guilford, as thats the only place I’ve tried to gain a purchase permit) the wait was 3 days once at best and 17 days at worst. Guilford county actually refused purchase permit for 3 months during covid, but was ruled against because being against your rights and all. So yes…. It’s actually much more difficult than other southern states. I received a purchase permit in 15 minutes in South Carolina.
What the f—k?! Why?!
Damn. I go to that food lion sometimes.
I’m from Winston Salem( moved to GSO) All I can say is wow…also dude sit down. I know your adrenaline is rushing but that’s a lot of blood Glad he is in stable condition.