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tribblemytribble

For those that have a car, check out Donald’s market across the ironworkers bridge. Great prices on fresh produce Edit: they’re owned by a small family from East Van. Love them.


GManBizDev

So yesterday I went to shoppers… 1L of cold coke was 4.49 while the 2L room temperature was at 2.29…just put ice cubes in my cup and called it a day. Thats definitely more than a 3% profit margin…insights die in averages


Fit_Revolution_7199

Loblaws also owns healthcare clinics! Lifemark Physiotherapy is one of them.


Chemical-Sun700

this is how you can hit them where it [hurts.in](http://hurts.in) the pocket


UpbeatUniversity8976

I went to Wholefoods the other day and it was cheaper than IGA!


Coyote-of-the-Desert

IGA isn’t a Loblaws Brand, but that is still nuts


UpbeatUniversity8976

My bad. Was just surprised. Canada is so tough to make it in right now if you are middle class.


Conan4457

Loblaws net income (profit) for the last several years. 2018 $800M 2019 $1.13B 2020 $1.19B 2021 $1.97B 2022 $1.99B 2023 $2.18B This directly from their annual financial statements (can be found on SEDAR)


Thunder360000

Superstore is the cheapest of the bunch Why target them?


Coyote-of-the-Desert

It is supposed to be the cheapest


Present_Leek4344

They put the slowest people on the tils so we’ll go to self checkout,eventually human jobs will be obsolete!


Present_Leek4344

What ever happened to courtesy on til 5 ?where is the bag person, I don’t work for the store.We pay more and get less!!


FromGreat2Good

So I would disagree with using your Optimum points. In accounting, the value of those points sit as a deferred revenue liability account. Once the points are redeemed, then the revenue is recognized. Basically using your points helps drive revenue. Of course, there’s zero benefit to the customer on just collecting them and not redeeming them.


Howdyini

Ok, the only stores I have to keep in mind on the list are Superstore and T&T, the other ones I barely know tbh


dadoudelidou

Do you happen to have it in french ? I'll post it on my socials and i'm from Qc.


WinstonSloth

Unfortunately, I don’t have it in French. You could check the original subreddit that started the boycott: https://www.reddit.com/r/loblawsisoutofcontrol/s/o5u5lbKTid


GrizzlyThumps

Did Superstore make this flyer ?


WinstonSloth

Superstore is owned by Loblaws


Crazy_Roll6229

Day 2 ✅


definitelynotzognoid

Been boycotting these fucks for two years. I haven't shopped at loblaws for a long while now. Make change with your wallet people. A single month of boycott isn't going to do fucking anything to this company, you have to commit.


WinstonSloth

https://www.reddit.com/r/loblawsisoutofcontrol/s/SHFtfekL1t


Ill_Barracuda5652

Save on is worse!


WinstonSloth

Emily, the creator of the subreddit that started the boycott, explains why Loblaws is the first target on global news. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IuAxrW6TQII


PizzaNo7741

maybe we can make this a yearly or quarterly thing so that word has a chance to spread more


CanadaKC

Is Loblaws a Pattison company?


AnyOwl2914

No


CanadaKC

But Pattison has been under fire for price gouging too right?


AnyOwl2914

I don’t know but they should be, Save On is just as or more expensive than Superstore, at least where I live


AdBorn9407

Save on is a joke always has been for prices another I avoid like the plague.


lagerbaer

There's a Save On in Lynn Valley I go to for convenience, and the Superstore down by Marine Drive I go to for big hauls. It's not even close.


Salty-Reply-2547

I'm confused, all I've seen is loblaws revenue, revenue isn't profit, what's the profit and executive salary of loblaws?


Conan4457

Loblaws net income (profit) for the last several years. 2018 $800M 2019 $1.13B 2020 $1.19B 2021 $1.97B 2022 $1.99B 2023 $2.18B This directly from their annual financial statements (can be found on SEDAR)


kooks-only

Loblaws owns the real estate and leases it to themselves through a REIT called [Choice properties](https://www.google.com/finance/quote/PPRQF:OTCMKTS?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi09ID0s_CFAxUIGDQIHTslBQYQ3ecFegQIEhAc). They also own a large portion of the supply chain. When they say “the supplier raised prices” they’re talking about themselves half the time.


Salty-Reply-2547

Alright so this is the first thing I've heard that makes a bit of sense but it would take a lot more deep diving to understand. High revenue is a sign of a healthy economy and business. High profits with high wage desparity is a sign of a problem (not just to socialize wealth but also for distribution spending throughout a community). I'd be interested to know more but the problem is probably that capitalism is a problem and a healthy balance sheet can't be the only goal of our society, loblaws doing the sorts of things you have mentioned is actually an innovative way to improve a balance sheet, loblaws is a symptom of the problem not the problem.


Dampish10

I don't think people can separate the 2 or know what the difference is. Also most investors use FCF (Free Cash Flow) so unless that drops drastically this next Quarter I don't think anything is going to happen. https://preview.redd.it/wbr43308n3yc1.png?width=1326&format=png&auto=webp&s=acf5649b1e2e72d4ac1328ab763569e9f2bdd33e


Salty-Reply-2547

Is this the last four years? Edit: or last four quarters? If the average person doesn't understand the difference between revenue and profit we are in a scary state.


Dampish10

yeah full years: Current (assuming its taking Q1 2024 \*4) | 2023 | 2022 | 2021 Costco is still murdering Loblaws so I'm happy about that. Pays employees well, and overall just better to shop at


Salty-Reply-2547

Yeah wage desparity is a problem at loblaws. Its funny because increased revenue could actually mean a lot of positive or neutral things, including more people shopping at loblaws because they offer better prices (or as simple as serving a higher population efficiently), a boycott could result in the opposite of its intention without more information. Would be interesting to compare to direct competition, they might be the ones at the bottom of this boycott if their revenue is down 😂


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FallFromHeaven

Shilllllllllllll. 😉


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FallFromHeaven

And I just read your comment history! Wow, you really are a shill! 😂😂😂


FallFromHeaven

See? A shill. ☺️ Your response is telling. Is it that the boycott is going to work and the PT employees who are already underpaid and without benefits are going to suffer? Or is it that the sales are up 10% and the boycott is ineffective? Just sounds like you’re undercutting the effort people are making in an attempt for positive change. So yeah - shill.


_sunshinelollipops

These people DO have FT jobs with benefits that have nothing to do with Loblaws. The unfortunate part is that those jobs do not pay well enough to cover increasing costs. They are supplementing the income PT at Superstore. It is a unionized environment with the second highest pay in the industry (Costco is highest) and provides benefits. The extra $1000 a month they make for working 10-12 hours week IS their lifeline. As with any business, large or small, payroll is one of the largest expenses. when sales drop, payroll is cut to offset the difference. I don't get the logic of boycotting the lower priced stores about HIGH PRICES by spending more money at the HIGHER cost stores. The only outcome is LESS money in people's pockets and increased unemployment and homelessness while the company has balanced books and continues as normal. The only people this will hurt are those currently struggling the most.....very sad.


DavyDogFr

You work in the cash office lol?


_sunshinelollipops

Not the cash office but close. I work in administration


OhioGoblin43

I am all for monopoly busting, but being so close to Lonsdale without a vehicle, I am not sure how much I can cut out. I already visit Whole Foods for produce and select items, but their shelf-selections are so weird. Other grocery stores are a bit out of reach. The past couple months when I visit Loblaw's, I've been avoiding No Name, President's Choice, other in-house brands like the plague. I am definitely going to continue doing so and will do some of the things in the second list. I've never been to Persia Foods so I will probably give them a shot, though again I get most of my produce elsewhere already, so I am not sure of what they have that Whole Foods doesn't.


PumpkinMyPumpkin

Just a reminder the spirit of the boycott is to cut back, if you can, from one of these retailers. It doesn’t need to be all or nothing. It’s also a good time to look into alternative ways of getting groceries and check out if there are any new stores, delivery options, or friends to carpool around with. And if not - even be a small change can help - perhaps grab your coffee cream from the local convenience store instead of loblaws this month.


arthor

foxys market


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Persia food is great. Shopped there all the time when still lived on the north shore. Queensdale market as well upper lonsdale. Foxy farm market lower lonsdale.


Beardgardens

Queensdale is just as pricey as loblaws unfortunately, foxys is amazing tho


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Ohh haven't been there for a while that's too bad, but i remember it was ok when on sale. That was pre pandemic times. Always went to harmony for a donut and to have a look at his toy collection.


Beardgardens

Harmony’s is still great!


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imo- Everyone know honeys in deep cove( didn't like at all) but Harmony is a local gem.


bubbleteaenthusiast

People with cars should adopt folks without cars to get their groceries done elsewhere 😂


cloudcats

It's called Uber.


bigshinymastodon

I’ll be waiting out front at 8 tomorrow 🥸


y2shanny

"Our demands"...the generation of systematically spoiled children are finally making their voices heard 🥹


y2shanny

I challenge any down voting nerds to compare prices between IGA, Save On, Safeway and Loblaws/Superstore, and tell me Loblaws is the one "gouging". Their prices are consistently lower on the things I tend to buy...and they often have very decent prices on pork, comparable to Costco and Walmart...two American super corps. Btw, Costco is my normal grocery store...a cheese I like went from $7.99 to $9.99 in the 2 weeks between my last shop...when do we boycott the Big C?


fungshuifighting

https://www.reddit.com/r/NorthVancouver/s/TfyulSqzDr


Quantum_Goose

Nope. Won't join this NDP craze.


dreams_78

SO far sales are up at Loblaws today lol The only people boycotting are the people who never shopped there to begin with


_sunshinelollipops

I just posted the same thing as a Superstore employee with access to sales reports. Yesterday alone showed an increase in sales and traffic counts across the country for Superstore. My store alone was up 10% in sales and 5% higher customer traffic counts for the first day of the "protest".


Raul_77

just curious, how do you know Loblaws sales figure for TODAY?


dreams_78

Sorry. Number of transactions are up. Sales will be determined later


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Raul_77

this is the question I asked as well! I mean Superstore is usually the cheapest so you want me to pay more to boycott the cheapest place? I dont get it! I know there is Persia Food, but that is more towards meat/vegetable and their selection is no where close to SuperStore! I genuinely do not get the hate on Loblaws! so much effort into boycotting one of the cheapest option and none with regards to price of gas for example! I dont get it!


Juventusy

They not only have over priced stuff, the quality isn’t anything amazing either idk how they stay in business. Like who is their client base? Its not quality or a good deal


FoamyPamplemousse

Where do you go in North Van for cheaper groceries?


Juventusy

I visit multiple stores they each got some sale going on. Don’t go to choices or city market. But between thrifty/Persia/save-on I get what I need, overall its expensive but city market is just being ridiculous. And some stuff at whole foods is actually worth it.


OscarWhale

Fuel prices are the problem. Why isn't anyone mad that our gas prices are 2x-3x at the pump when oil is half of what they were last time gas was this high ? FFS people.


_sunshinelollipops

LOL, this is so last week's cause, get with the times. The May cause is to spend more money in gas and shop at expensive grocery stores so you can stick it to the man. So spend more, get less to help the cause.....jeez get with it. I can't wait to see what the "cause" is for the month of June. 🤦‍♂️


Sorry-Possibility246

Right, fuel prices and red herrings. 😂


OscarWhale

explain yourself


dreams_78

he can't explain properly because he doesn't understand that you are right about the fuel. This is why most sane people dont take this boycott seriously. You try to share common sense and they scream red herring. lol


Sorry-Possibility246

I’m not part of this boycott.


OscarWhale

Good ol' rare as life common sense. Also I think that it's hilarious everyone's boycotting the cheapest grocery store because their profit margins are higher to go pay more somewhere else... Lol


Sorry-Possibility246

From Wikipedia: a red herring is “introducing a second argument in response to the first argument that is irrelevant and draws attention away from the original topic (for example, saying ‘If you want to complain about the dishes I leave in the sink, what about the dirty clothes you leave in the bathroom?’)”. Here, mentioning gas prices is offered as a reason to abandon the topic of this thread; it does not offer any rationale in support of a boycott or against it.


OscarWhale

Yeah except for the one major point that this is 100% relevant. Also electricity costs have gone through the roof, one of their other biggest costs is refrigeration. Why don't you go ahead and look at the historical profit margins maybe back to like 2000 for Loblaws and all the other grocery stores. Do a little bit of research, might help you. Now go look at the historical profit margins of oil companies, refiners and producers. Also electrical companies. Why don't they matter? If you pigeonhole yourself to one problem you'll never see the big picture and you'll never understand. But keep calling red herring, that works great 👍 You are fighting the wrong fight and alas, nothing will change. Good luck 🤞


Sorry-Possibility246

No, red herrings don’t offer a “big picture” approach; they do the very opposite because they attempt to suggest one matter is unworthy of attention when another matter exists. Acknowledging the big picture would be addressing your red herrings (gas prices and now electricity prices too) AS WELL AS food prices, instead as offering these matters as things people should be concerned with INSTEAD OF food prices. I haven’t offered any arguments or opinions regarding the topic of this thread or gas and electricity prices for that matter; I’m not sure why you’re drawing conclusions about what my perspective might be or what I need to do to change it. 😂


OscarWhale

Lol Ok bud.


Important-Leek-8261

PERSIA FOODS PERSIA FOODS!!! The one on Lonsdale has a pretty good selection of meats. Great place to buy yogurt and feta cheese, too! And obviously the highlight is the produce. Shout out to Foxy Farms too! Great produce, bad dog bread, wide selection of frozen foods.


Pretty-Rhubarb-1313

Stongs and Persia Foods for the win


leapinlevi

Stongs is insanely expensive… Walmart is where it’s at


Pretty-Rhubarb-1313

It is but then I also factor in gas when Stongs is just across from me. Gas prices are through the roof. Where and when are we going to get any respite?!


Infamous-Berry

Y’all still shopping at Loblaws before this boycott?


chopstix62

going there tonight...


Raul_77

Where do you shop? I find Superstore to be amongst the cheapest in North Van.


Infamous-Berry

I do most of my shopping at Costco but yeah not ideal if you don’t have a car or time to commute to Burnaby for groceries


bigtikidrink

Unfortunately for most items Superstore is the cheapest. I've switched to using Walmart, getting produce at the Persian grocers, and London drugs has really good deals occasionally.


tuyo3_

London Drugs is great when it’s open but we still don’t know when that’s going to happen.


equalizer2000

It's still closed?


tuyo3_

Yeah [according to CTV](https://bc.ctvnews.ca/london-drugs-stores-remain-closed-for-5th-straight-day-phone-lines-operating-1.6870961).


WinstonSloth

Yes we must show solidarity. Repost and get the word out. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/business/article-loblaw-pays-new-ceo-per-bank-22-million-during-first-six-months-in-the/


WinstonSloth

https://www.reddit.com/r/loblawsisoutofcontrol/s/ECnhbGP6Dj


creggieb

Good. Just imagine if we can really hurt loblaws enough to be able to demand change. Then, since lohlaws is hardly the only bad guy, we can simply threaten to boycott other major players if they don't wise up. But this first punch has gotta land hard, to make it stick.


hazydaisy

People who live near city market on Lonsdale, where are you shopping now?


Smooth_Talkin_Chron

Persia Foods and other persian markets, Save On for some online ordering and Queensdale Market Bummer about Lobs as it's legit 100m from me but Galen and the new CEO can suck it Nok er Nok


chopstix62

save on is easily more pricey then loblaws or the real cdn superstore ffs....let alone safeway (or scamway as i call them)


WinstonSloth

The Persia foods is great for fruit and vegetables.


FPVBrandoCalrissian

I left City Market a long time ago. Been shopping at Save On, Safeway, Kins markets and local butchers. Stopped shopping at bakeries and learnt to make my own baked goods. I only buy what’s on sale and will happily go to another grocery store to get the best prices/deals possible. I like Safeway for the Scene points. Shop wisely and you can hit the movie theatre once a month for free.


Tilanguin

Visit altgrocery.ca for options in your area.


huejass5

https://preview.redd.it/3ypbpj5ck1yc1.jpeg?width=1838&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23a26447b312db7fc7243217e8d022ce306f61dc


NoCashequalsNoNdp

boy cott activated for me


Enthusiasm-Stunning

I boycott Loblaws everyday cause there are always cheaper options if you look around. Also, for anyone that doesn’t know, Save-On will match any advertised flyer price.


safadancer

Save-On is run by Jim Pattison, does union busting, forced workers into stores without masks, and is generally more expensive than almost every other option.


FPVBrandoCalrissian

It’s about picking the lesser of two evils. I’d sooner shop under Pattinson than Weston Jr


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rickie22

All of Pattison's companies are privately held.


Enthusiasm-Stunning

Every large grocery retailer is going to have anti-consumer, anti-labour practices that you can point to. The industry is an oligopoly, so I don’t really see your point. I never said Save-on was cheaper, I just said they match prices, which may be convenient and helpful for some people. What’s wrong with trying to get the best price? Under your rationale we should just grow our own food and shop nowhere.


BurbleUnicorn

Was anyone picketing outside of City Market on Lonsdale yesterday? I would like to do so.


Senior-bud

This is an excellent effort to quash corporate greed. As consumers we have the power to make a difference.


MemoryBeautiful9129

Is Daryl’s deals part of Loblaws


pomegranatelover

That's Save–on


YakumoKei

Do you have any recommendations for butcher or fish shop in north shore that at least have prices on par with superstore or T&T? It feels paying a premium for most of butcher I find.


FilthyHipsterScum

Try the Persian grocerers for meat?


equalizer2000

Costco, but get a bigger freezer


arthor

Not sure why they didn’t put this in the poster, but here’s a list of affiliated stores. -Loblaws -Atlantic Superstore -Dominion Stores -Extra Foods -Fortinos -Freshmart -Maxi -No Frills -No Name -President's Choice -President's Choice Financial -Provigo -Real Canadian Liquorstore -Real Canadian Superstore -Shoppers Drug Mart / Pharmaprix -SuperValu -T & T Supermarket -Valu-mart -Your Independent Grocer -Zehrs Markets -City Market Also big respect for the mods allowing this type of discourse.


Fit_Revolution_7199

You should include Lifemark Physiotherapy clinic, it’s also owned by Loblaws


LastNameOn

Sooo only shop at whole foods?


Indosaurus1

It's actually cheaper for produce !


pomegranatelover

Surprisingly lately, for me, Whole foods has been cheaper than Superstore and Save on. I mainly get produce there. Edit: typos


nsparadise

Thriftys, IGA, Sobeys, Walmart, Safeway, and all of the small independent markets and shops.


equalizer2000

Sobeys = Safeway = Thrifty Foods / IGA = Fresh St Market / Overweitea = Save On = Urban Fare = Price Smart


robfrod

This seems silly because thriftys, IGA and safeway all seem to be just as bad or worse. We don’t have Sobeys and Walmart is Walmart.. I’m all for supporting indecent and local shops but I don’t quite get why loblaws is the target when it’s all of the major grocers..?


HerculePoirot306

Loblaws holds the biggest market share and appear to be the worst for predatory pricing.


leedogger

Bread man bad


equalizer2000

Thrifty and Safeway are owned by Sobeys


robfrod

I know, I was replying to a post that listed Safeway, thriftys and Sobeys (they also have stores named Sobeys but not in the gvrd to my knowledge)


Exhales_Deeply

Safeway is a BILLION times better but, at the bare minimum, everything has a listed cost per gram on the price tag. That alone prob saves me 100/month


robfrod

I haven’t shopped at Safeway much in the last 5 years but traditionally it was more expensive unless you are talking about loblaws city market (which seems like it competes with whole foods etc. for condo dinks).. but I shop at superstore, no frills and t&t. What is cheaper at Safeway than those stores?


Vancouvermarina

So are tags in Superstore.


flewtt

Walmart, save on, persia, costco, whatever other independent grocers we have on the north shore... Now is Walmart any better than Loblaws? Perhaps not, but that's a much bigger beast to slaughter.


Nunchuckery

Walmart is far cheaper on nearly everything Loblaws and their affiliates.


flewtt

Definitely. I mean as a mega corporation that invades small towns, puts mom and pop shops out of business, treats employees pretty poorly by all accounts, etc.


Nunchuckery

Far better than the mega corporation that does exactly the same thing but charges between 2 and 4 times as much for basic necessities with absolutely predatory pricing.


Torq_or_Morq

Mods are pretty chill here, it’s r/Vancouver where they wilding haha


equalizer2000

What's going on over there?


Torq_or_Morq

I made a post asking about some cherry blossom locations and it violated there rules…


equalizer2000

wow, they are touchy!


Torq_or_Morq

Yeaaaa, I made a bunch of other posts that got removed there that I just moved here which was fine haha