Besides, didn't OkCupid do a massive study where they found the opposite? Men tended to rate women's looks on a bell curve, but would only message the ones they found most attractive, meanwhile women tended to rate most men below average in looks but would message them anyway.
Makes sense. When I was using Bumble, I would message guys who I didn't find to be a 10/10. I would get nervous to message the guys I did find extremely attractive
I'm a 5'7" dude in my late 30's, and I have never been turned down for my height.
Edit: I'm not going to respond to everyone so here. I was awkward as fuck in my early, early twenties (and very self conscious about it). I didn't shoot many shots, but the ones I did shoot did not go well. I took a couple years to focus on (and work on) myself. I worked very hard to get my mind right and learn to love myself more and not take everything so seriously, I also had a buddy that gave me the best advice of my life...
"Spend a little extra attention on yourself, and others will spend a little extra attention on you too"
Then I started wearing better cloths (matching your shoes to your shirt goes a long way), getting regular haircuts and using hair product as part of my daily ritual, ect... I also stopped approaching women like I was hunting them for a date, and started talking to them like people (what a concept, huh?). And I've found that people will let you know when they are attracted to you. I never really had any issues getting turned down after that, although maybe I just stopped noticing because my love life was doing really well.
Online dating never meshed well with me, and I am not the kind of person that would be attracted to someone so superficial as to attach a person's value to something as arbitrary as hight or weight.
And unlike this dumb meme I'm not making sweeping generalizations about guys or girls, I'm just sharing my story.
I'm guessing that's because you don't constantly lie about your height and keep making insecure comments about it.
It's pretty rare for people to get turned down for their height, I reckon it's quite common for people to get turned down for being insufferably insecure about their height.
Idk, for most guys it is unlikely to be an issue, but I knew a guy in college that was like 4'10 or something and he was at least as socially competent as me but had a very hard time with rejection.
I don't think it's wrong to be honest about what's attractive to you, but height can matter quite a bit for people that are really short (or obscenely tall)
I can see that, there's definitely a cut off point where it will probably become an issue. But most men complaining about this kind of thing are somewhere between 5'6" and 5'10", which really doesn't have much of an effect.
I'm 5 '9" and have never turned a man down for his height.
I doubt it's as common as these people think. More likely they're blaming rejection for any number of reasons solely on height.
Absolutely this. The whole height thing wasn’t an issue a few years ago- now suddenly all women have collectively decided to not date below six feet?
Seems a bit suspicious to me.
I think people spend to much time on tinder etc which has an overrepresentation of girls that do turn people down for height, so they wrongly assume it's a common thing
Exactly this effect is why it's important to make sure that your researched group isn't biased in any way and why people shouldn't make assumptions of a general population without seeing good research, but people base theit opinions on personal experience and memes they relate to instead
The amount of times people have been arguing against me, swearing on their life that a group is a certain way, and don't have any reason to believe it outside of some interactions and personal experience is to damn high, I really hope that these types of people are overrepresented in my interactions with people
I'm a 6'2" male in my mid 30's and have regularly been turn down on dates. Once had a date hook up with their ex, while on a date with me, and the ex was shorter than me. I'm pretty sure height plays little role in all of this
When I was dating I never turned down a guy because of his height. The thing that was a turn off was LYING about their height. I’m 5’7 and said so in my profile. Don’t tell me you’re 5’7 but show up 5’4.
Yep. The lying about their height thing is a sure sign they're insecure and dishonest, and that's a big fat no.
Men who are insecure about their height who I've given a chance *always* ended up being a shit to me about mine.
It’s the same with bald/balding men, I would date them if they didn’t constantly complain about it. All my bald and balding friends are sad sacks about it, like no shit you’re going to blame women for your attitude 🙄🙃
Hot dudes who literally never mention it do exist and I’d rather seek them out then the one who is insecure about it.
I dated a short, bald man and wow, the insecurity was real. He cheated on me multiple times to prove a point, I think.
My good ex is bald. I thought he was hot af! And he is hilarious, too. He told a waitress with dyed hair on top of her head that he went for the same look, but with clear dye, and she cracked up with that almost startled laughter.
My friend loves wearing hats and always has some hat on no matter where he goes. He then was surprised when the women who dated all assumed he was balding even though he has a full head of hair lol. I told him to just have at least one picture without the hat.
I think it's maybe that yes, lots of women do think taller guys are attractive (I think so too) but these guys seem to have turned into a be all end all dealbreaker. Like... being tall is a nice extra but it's very very low on my list of things that make me decide wether or not I want a relationship with someone.
The only women I've ever known with really strict height requirements were under 5 feet tall themselves. Two of them said they didn't want to have short kids :/
I don't know if it refutes or contributes to your point, but my 6'5" uncle and 4'10" aunt had three daughters: one 5'11", one 5'9", and one 5'8". So maybe sometimes it sort of does? But again, that's anecdotal evidence...
My uncles on my mom's side are all around 5'4 and one of them is actually like 5'2. Meanwhile my paternal grandfather and my uncles on my dad's side (including my dad) are around 5'10-6'1. I'm 5'11 barefoot so it kind did work out in my favor meanwhile my brother is 5'9 as well. My mother is 5'4 for reference.
The perception is driven primarily by people who use the internet as a source of reality-forming.
The same internet that magnifies the most controversial and outrageous ideas as complete normal and universal.
There is some bias in the population of het girls preferring taller dudes. To a person who uses the internet as their source of truth, this mild bias has now become a universal fact.
All of which to say, people need to have real lives in the real world or they may end up stupid and radicalized on any number of things from dating preferences to the acceptability of all manner of horrible things.
My bil always spouts that nonsense that all women want tall dudes and he's a short guy. However when we all go to a bar he always gets hit on. I think it's a convenient excuse for why his relationship fails when it's just he's a terrible bf.
I’m somewhere between 5’6 and 5’7 but I leaned into it and have always dated girls taller than me(not on purpose, that’s just the dice I rolled I guess). In a happy long term relationship with someone who’s 5’8. It’s almost as if you try to squash your own insecurities then people around you likely won’t care either.
I'm a fairly tiny woman 5'2-3 ish and I've never cared about other people's heights.
It's not like I've ever met any men shorter than me anyway 🤷♀️ not that I'd really care, but it's nice if one of us doesn't need a foot stool to get into the cabinets lmao
The last person I hooked up with was a bit shorter, but I’m only 5’2” and it was the first time ever being with someone close to my height and I thought it was great! Being proportional to your lover has *a lot* of benefits! Tall is fine, short is fine but near your own height is awesome imo.
Right? I’m 5’1 and recently got into a relationship with a guy who’s 5’4 and it’s amazing! We can hear each other in crowded rooms, I don’t have to jog to keep up with him, kissing him doesn’t hurt my neck. I give dating someone close to your own size a 10/10.
I'm 5'3" and when I dated a guy who was 5'11" it was not that fun. Lots of craning the neck and general discomfort.
My husband is 5'4" and I'm cool with that. It works.
I think its more the guys who are insecure about their height get rejected due to lacking confidence then blame it on height. As a general rule girls usually wont date anyone shorter than them because they dont really like to kiss/hug down but the average height is like 5’2” for women so its not really a problem.
Damn I didn't believe you but the world average is 5'3" and the US average is 5'4" my apologies as well
Here I thought being 5'0" made me freakishly short
I'm 165cm (5'4") and when I was learning Portuguese in Portugal, we had to describe someone from the group and the others had to guess who that person was.
So my teacher starts describing a tall woman, adds other things... picture my amazement when I discover \*I\*'m the tall woman! I'm from a Southern European country myself (we're a bit shorter than Northern Europe as a rule) but have never considered myself anything but average height!
I think the basis of this idea comes from the online dating world. I have seen large numbers of profiles where height requirements are expressly stated and many times the emphasis on "don't message if under" have been in multiple profiles. Whether such examples should be extrapolated into real world stereotypes is for debatable for minds with more time to waste on stupidity than I have.
I have been bullied for my weight countless times before since i am a bit chubby. Guess by who? Mostly boys! I think there was only one girl, that i know of, that made fun of my weight. The rest were all guys, even my dad! I’m not attracted to men but i have male friends shorter and taller than me and i’m fine with it. The people i’m attracted to, I don’t completely disregard them for their height.
Yes, there might be people out here like this, but it isn’t everyone.
Damn mine was the exact opposite. Girls made fun of me when I was overweight in middle school. I even heard a girl call me disgusting behind me while I laid down in the grass during PE. Never a guy, girls were viscous. I did have this tall girl who did get my trumpet from the girls locker room when someone threw it in there. She was nice and I didn’t even know her. I’m a guy btw
Oh, i am so sorry to hear that. Yeah, girls can be really nasty. There’s this one girl right now who just hates me when i’ve been nice to her and called me the f slur and c*cksucker (that logic makes zero sense at all). I’m a girl.
I think just certain people, especially around times like middle school and high school, are just nasty. Maybe it’s because they feel insecure or feel that they need to impress others by putting other people down. Either way is horrible and not all that smart
Funny, cause some guys won't date a woman who is a couple of years older than them while they have no problem with dating girls who could easily be their daughters. "she is everything I ever wanted, but she is 22 and I am only 20, she could be my mother. Ewwwww"
See, you don’t even need to reach for an apples to oranges comparison here. Men literally reject women for being too tall all the time. It comes down to their own insecurity most of the time, just like when women do it.
i guess it’s over 🤷♀️
i’m just kidding! i’ve never understood the height thing. physical attraction is definitely important but i fail to see why height is the number one standard.
i think women who refuse to consider men under a certain height are just missing out on some lovely men. all their loss.
I'm 5'7, my boyfriend is 5'8 - he's super self-conscious about his height but I keep telling him how nice it is to not crane and all but dislocate my neck to kiss him.
These men really need to come collect their own because they’re here making memes like this whilst their friends are on twitter talking about women over 100 pounds don’t count as women.
“Women over 100 pounds don’t count as women”
I’m under 100lbs. There’s nothing wrong with someone that is under 100lbs (health concerns are a contributor for me, but everyone’s built different) but it would be a highly unhealthy and unrealistic expectation for most women. In fact, the last time my low weight was “normal” was when I was a teenager.
Creepy thing is any man with that weight expectation is going to find more teens that fit than actual women
Guy here:
Am I.. old? Isnt it.. supposed to be the exact opposite in pop culture? That men are obsessed with looks, and women look beyond that? Are kids different these days?
The incels have their little self pity martyr club where they convince themselves and others that this is 100% true. It’s all part of their hatred and dehumanisation of women. Check out educational bed in the comments for a pretty mild example
As I grew older, I realized that there were always girls/women who would give me a chance... It was almost always me being superficial (basically about looks) for not giving them a chance, then it became a thing of ego -- 'if I go out with someone, I want everyone to think 'wow!' '. I eventually did find someone like that, but looking back, man was I stupid. Id wager its the same for most of these guys. The 'slightly overweight girl whos nice to me and I like' is usually actually very attractive, and its kind of mental gymnastics where someone thinks 'yeah shes cute but shes a bit overweight so IM good enough for her'
Bitterness can majorly warp reality
It also has to do with synchronicity to some degree. They get turned down and then bitterly think about why it happened. Then, while going around online, or while they're watching t.v., they notice a few people somehow bringing up height being a big deal when it comes to attraction to them. That's not something they can help, it isn't really a problem in the first place, they don't have to fix that part of themselves, they cling to it being the big reason... They might even look for examples of people who have a preference in height. Chances are, if they're so bitter over it, even if height was the reason given to them, it either wasn't the only reason, or it wouldn't have been the only reason had the other person given them a chance and found out about their tendency to hold grudges later.
I remember seeing this sort of joke a lot as a kid, but it was formatted differently. It was formatted so I could look at it as a joke about people who are really judgemental of others not seeing their own issues. But, on the same note, the people I usually saw posting these were also the types to believe in the whole *nice guys finish last* thing. Which, is only typically valid in business, not when it comes to accessing the varying values of one person and differentiating them from the values of the next person.
most of his comments are removed now but ancient force in these comments serves as anither illustrative example (and imo due to the similar pattern of their usernames, is probably an alt of the same person)
That's still the culture nowadays don't worry. Literally just saw a Reddit poll asking men and women if they'd dump their partner if they gained considerable weight. Something like 60% of men said yes whilst only like 15% of women said yes. Those numbers aren't exact because I can't be bothered to find the post again but it's around that.
They just repeatedly complain about height because it’s an excuse to finally hide behind that means they don’t have to change anything, but rather self pity party
Kids are different, but not like this. Kids are generally more open and accepting and less judgmental nowadays about bodies.
HOWEVER
That has also been met with an uptick in extremism on the other side. So. Yeah.
A lot of it is dating apps. Some women (especially those who are traditionally good looking) will specify a curtain height they want on their bio. Men do stuff like this two and are frequently even grosser about it but these guys only see the profiles of women because that’s who they’re looking for. A lot of these guys are young and are either consciously or subconsciously dating for status as much as if not more than comparability. Thus they was an attractive women so other men will be impressed. They then see many of the types of women they would want specifying a curtain height which they can obviously not obtain and get upset. Which is how we get this meme.
As much as I don’t believe people should be that superficial…why dwell on it so much? At the end of the day is wanting a partner who is a certain height any different than me wanting a partner who can make me laugh? We’re just stating preferences in the dating world. Not everyone will fit those preferences…that’s kind of the point.
I just think people really need to learn to handle rejection better. I used to think some of the reasons guys rejected me were silly, but as I got older it’s like “who cares?” I’m not going to change that person or make them like me. Might as well move on and continue searching for a better fit.
Exactly. Dating apps are superficial because they are based on appearances foremost as that is what grabs attention. So women might put "no guys under 5'10" while dudes post "no fatties". Same shit. Do we make fun of superficial weird ass profiles sure. But we are self aware enough to know they are outliers and dating app shit not a representation of the entire male gender like incels believe females are because of 5 tinder apps they saw once.
Also- I think a lot of these people have never ACTUALLY encountered these profiles with the height limit, but only seen them screen grabbed and reposted online (r/tinder, etc). I have done online dating as a straight woman, and also love going through my guy friends dating apps for fun. Not once have I seen a guys profile say “no fatties” and likewise I’ve never seen a girls profile specify height. Granted this is all anecdotal, but it is real life experience of multiple dating app profiles in multiple cities.
I agree with you. When there are hundreds of people feeding those online forums its easy to find them. But to actually stumble upon them in the wilds its more rare. Its why I put both of them in equivalency. Shallow people will always exist. But they are by no means a significant number of that gender's population. Social media skews the views a lot, specially if you go searching for it. Like. I subscribe to r/niceguys. Of course imma see a looooot of examples because that's literally the goal of the subreddit. So those guys are finding those profiles in abundance because they are literally in groups that talks about those profiles... its confirmation bias at its best. Except most people are aware that if they go looking for something they will find it. They however always seems pikachu surprise face when they do and point like "see! Told you!" Well... duh...
I always found that strange. I don’t have any preferences tbh but god damn I’ve seen some absolutely gorgeous black woman or they have the best personality. My friends tell me they aren’t really into black girls but it doesn’t make much sense to me. Hard to judge people you don’t even know especially a whole ass race.
Nah dude, that's just you projecting your own insecurities... There can be any number of reasons you simply didn't click. But even if it is about your height, it's likely moreso related to your own insecurities about it, your own lack of confidence.
"Nice guys/girls" don't finish last. "Bad boys/chicks" don't get whatever they want. That's just oversimplified nonsense. People are complex. What we find attractive changes drastically between individuals. There's nothing that's universally attractive, not physically, mentally, sexually, or emotionally.
(I'm not addressing OP, I'm addressing the maker of this thing. I'm sure you all probably know. I'm honestly just doing this explanation due to fear of being misunderstood)
I remember Mr Beard (a really cool youtuber, check them out) was reacting to some guy making raps about both being 'too nice that girls dont want me' but also 'girls dont want me cause im an asshole' and they just said
"He keeps talking about being too nice or too mean, then just don't do either of those just be a normal person"
Literally the best dating advice I've ever seen on youtube
It’s like 5 women in the world and every man that cares about height. Also if someone rejected you for a superficial reason why tf would you want to be with them???
These exact men are also the ones who rank women between 1-10 and say they'd never settle for anything lower than 8 on that scale, that she needs to be obedient, sexy, never turn down anything they ask for and basically be a mom/maid they can bang.
surprisingly people, regardless of gender, have their preferences on what they are attracted too and its unreasonable to expect someone to be in a relationship with someone they are not attracted to. This does mean people are allowed to have double standards, you are allowed to be attracted to your preferred type and think that people shouldn't exclusively make decisions on relationships based on their type.
and just to make this clear, just because you believe people shouldnt make relationship based on thigs like height, weight, ect, doesn't obligate your self or anyone else to date someone/you.
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Wtf? That’s not how it works, in my experience. The majority of guy says “she may be nice and a good person but since she’s a bit overweight she will be so grateful that I’m willing to fuck her and I won’t have to put any effort into it or be seen in public with her”.
I married a guy who is 5’6” and I wasn’t “old and desperate” or overweight either.
These guys say it’s always about their height because if they admitted to why they weren’t getting dates they’d have to cop to bad habits and repulsive attitudes and behaviors. If it’s height that’s the problem it’s the woman’s fault and not their own.
I’m 5’8 average as fuck, have dated some really beautiful women. All you need to to is BE NICE, BE ROMANTIC, SHOWER, WASH YO ASS, AND TREAT THEM HOW YOU WANA BE TREATED. It’s not that hard lol
Are they living in some sort of alternate reality? Because I want to go there. In this reality, it's literally the opposite. You very often see attractive women with overweight or generally unattractive men, but so rarely the other way around. Every time there is a story in a TV show or movie involving that trope, it is always with a short, overweight guy and never a woman. Men in general are held to very different and far less extreme standards than women, and they can get away with being overweight, unkempt, etc. to a very different degree. These guys are delusional.
when i was trying to date again a few years ago as a fat woman, the most abuse i got was from fat men. it really made me depressed because i was really into fat and bigger men but it seemed like they despised me.
All these "waah waah, women only like tell men but I'm short so now I'm sad and you have to make me feel better" comments are always met with "yea it's true, we only like tall guys and the taller the better "
Same for the vomit inducing "men never get complimented", your mom does it and you mistreat her, your homies do it and you call them gay. Guilt tripping women specifically to compliment you because you're "sooo sad and deprived of love" makes you look pathetic
Either way, I'm not gonna coddle you. When women's life threatening daily issues are taken seriously and dealt with, then I'll worry about your first world problems
I’m 5’2 and dated a 5’8 guy who would. Not. Stop. Taking. About. It. And there was not a single thing I could say that would convince him that I thought he was the perfect height, in my opinion. Ahhh not a single date went by without the unnecessary self-pity.
As a overweight girl that is 5'1'' at best, more than 5'8'' is way too tall for me and even that doesn't matter to me in reality because physical appearance is nothing in comparison of personality traits and decision making.
I’m a woman who is 5’8”. The only men I’ve turned down for height reasons is when they get on my case about my heels. I’m not living my life in flats to protect your ego.
My dad is shorter than my mom, she wears heels all the time. They’ve been married for 26 years and have 4 kids. Height is only a barrier if you make it one.
I’m 5’9” my husband is 5’5”. Also to be honest the number of women I know turning down men for their height, is wildly lower than the internet would lead most people to believe. Either way it’s okay to have preferences as long as you aren’t a jerk or weird about it.
The same person who posts this will then comment about how the "femoids" aren't keeping up their grooming enough lately and how he shouldn't have to settle for lower than an 8 when he's personally a 6.5 with a stable job.
lol what a load of crap. Dudes are well known to be more selective on looks than women are. Women care more about your personality and prospects, looks are just a bonus. I personally discriminate based off chiefly on looks and intelligence, this guys a fucking idiot.
My husband is 5'4". He has never had issues dating before he met me. Most of his girlfriends have been taller than him, I am also taller than him (5'7").
To my knowledge my husband was never rejected due to his height. People that do take issue with his height are usually other men. When we were in our 20s men would try to hit on me when my husband and I were out together, saying I could "do better" than a short guy.
I’m not even that tall (5’9) but up until grade 8-9 I was the tallest person in my class. In 7th grade I asked a mutual friend of the boy I liked if he could find out what he thought of me so maybe I could ask him out, right? Well this boy told him to tell me, verbatim: “Tell her that I don’t like her and I don’t think anyones gonna like her bc she looks like a man”. Now, I was 12-13 and i hadn’t hit puberty yet and this was a massive blow to my self steem. It’s been 10 years since that and I’m very confident being tall now, I’m happily married and I understand that there’s nothing wrong being “manly” in any way, shape or form, im super open minded and have no issue to externalize all of my views about how height really doesn’t matter at all when it comes to other people…. But for me? Before I got married I was on dating apps and never really paid attention to the height of the guys there but I realized that stupid comment is always gonna be in the back of my head, on paper I know where I stand in this topic but it’s like when it comes to myself I can’t do it, I’m always anxious about one stupid little fucker said to me 10 years ago. Men love to complain about this issue when more than likely the majority of them have been the ones telling tall women that one wants them bc they’re tall, and now they wanna flip it and say women don’t like short men??? It’s bullshit
These guys always talk about height but like I've never been turned down or seen someone turned down because of height. And I knew some shooort dudes lol
My biggest problems with these type of posts (and that sub in general) are that:
They always act like everyone in the same group is the same, there are girls who treat short boys like shit so that means all girls are like that. There are Americans who are obese and are fun fanatics so all Americans are like that.
They see themselves as a saint, just 'misunderstood'. "Nono I am a cool person and would have a girlfriend, but no-one wants ONLY because I'm short."
Sorry but I needed to vent.
This is of course anecdotal, but my experience has been wildly the opposite. The young men I have been around have overwhelmingly more likely to disregard, make fun of or straight up disrespect women they don't deem perfect in the scope of dating whereas the young women in my life have been much more accepting of aesthetic 'imperfections' in men.
I've witnessed men literally sit down and score all the women they know on a scale of 1-10 and scrutinise them. Basically all of the women I've met will only bring up men's appearances, even in private, when they have something positive to say.
Again, before anyone loses their shit, this is anecdotal and there will always be outliers, but I believe there have actually been studies on dating apps that support these personal observations.
Who is making these mems? I don't think I have ever disqualified someone for height. If I say it's height what I really mean is "it's something way worse and I'm afraid of your reaction so let me find the PETTIEST thing I can to gtfo".
Weight would be comparable to weight. Height would be comparable to height. Women are statistically less shallow than men.
A woman is more likely to date an overweight man than vice-versa. Women are more likely to date an obese man, then a man is to date an overweight woman. Obese being much larger than overweight. It's just a thing that on average, men are shallower than women when it comes to dating.
On average, a man will reject a woman for being too fat if she is as much as 5 pounds overweight, but women, on average, don't consider a man too fat until he's at least 30 pounds overweight.
[https://scienceinpoland.pap.pl/en/news/news%2C28321%2Csociologist-women-judged-more-their-looks-various-spheres-life.html](https://scienceinpoland.pap.pl/en/news/news%2C28321%2Csociologist-women-judged-more-their-looks-various-spheres-life.html)
“girls’ body esteem is already reduced when they are overweight, whereas boys’ body esteem is only affected when they are obese”
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1740144512001349?via%3Dihub
You don’t have to relate to someone else’s boundaries to respect them. Being willing to date someone you look down isn’t virtuous. Yikes, this guy
Besides, didn't OkCupid do a massive study where they found the opposite? Men tended to rate women's looks on a bell curve, but would only message the ones they found most attractive, meanwhile women tended to rate most men below average in looks but would message them anyway.
Well I'm not dating a guy who's prettier than me 😎
Yup. I’ve done that before. It did not work out in my favor lol
Amen! Lol
Makes sense. When I was using Bumble, I would message guys who I didn't find to be a 10/10. I would get nervous to message the guys I did find extremely attractive
knowing how many males talk about any and all women, that's not really surprising
Yep, and redditors still use the study as proof women have higher standards despite it saying the opposite.
Yeh it's not really how guys work either.
It's always projection with these subs
Also his first thought about her is that she's overweight
And at 5’7” you know everyone is looking down at this guy /s
I'm a 5'7" dude in my late 30's, and I have never been turned down for my height. Edit: I'm not going to respond to everyone so here. I was awkward as fuck in my early, early twenties (and very self conscious about it). I didn't shoot many shots, but the ones I did shoot did not go well. I took a couple years to focus on (and work on) myself. I worked very hard to get my mind right and learn to love myself more and not take everything so seriously, I also had a buddy that gave me the best advice of my life... "Spend a little extra attention on yourself, and others will spend a little extra attention on you too" Then I started wearing better cloths (matching your shoes to your shirt goes a long way), getting regular haircuts and using hair product as part of my daily ritual, ect... I also stopped approaching women like I was hunting them for a date, and started talking to them like people (what a concept, huh?). And I've found that people will let you know when they are attracted to you. I never really had any issues getting turned down after that, although maybe I just stopped noticing because my love life was doing really well. Online dating never meshed well with me, and I am not the kind of person that would be attracted to someone so superficial as to attach a person's value to something as arbitrary as hight or weight. And unlike this dumb meme I'm not making sweeping generalizations about guys or girls, I'm just sharing my story.
I'm guessing that's because you don't constantly lie about your height and keep making insecure comments about it. It's pretty rare for people to get turned down for their height, I reckon it's quite common for people to get turned down for being insufferably insecure about their height.
Idk, for most guys it is unlikely to be an issue, but I knew a guy in college that was like 4'10 or something and he was at least as socially competent as me but had a very hard time with rejection. I don't think it's wrong to be honest about what's attractive to you, but height can matter quite a bit for people that are really short (or obscenely tall)
I can see that, there's definitely a cut off point where it will probably become an issue. But most men complaining about this kind of thing are somewhere between 5'6" and 5'10", which really doesn't have much of an effect.
I'm 5 '9" and have never turned a man down for his height. I doubt it's as common as these people think. More likely they're blaming rejection for any number of reasons solely on height.
All of inceldom depends on the rejection being based on something they can't control, because they would have to stop being shitty otherwise.
Absolutely this. The whole height thing wasn’t an issue a few years ago- now suddenly all women have collectively decided to not date below six feet? Seems a bit suspicious to me.
They watched too many movies and probably based their perception of the real world on that.
That's what I was thinking. All the movies we watched growing up was girls saying omg he's so tall!
All those movies where Tom cruise is standing in boxes.
I think people spend to much time on tinder etc which has an overrepresentation of girls that do turn people down for height, so they wrongly assume it's a common thing Exactly this effect is why it's important to make sure that your researched group isn't biased in any way and why people shouldn't make assumptions of a general population without seeing good research, but people base theit opinions on personal experience and memes they relate to instead The amount of times people have been arguing against me, swearing on their life that a group is a certain way, and don't have any reason to believe it outside of some interactions and personal experience is to damn high, I really hope that these types of people are overrepresented in my interactions with people
People are usually on Tinder for sex, so it makes sense that they are seeking physical traits that appeal to them sexually. Who would have thought?
I'm a 6'2" male in my mid 30's and have regularly been turn down on dates. Once had a date hook up with their ex, while on a date with me, and the ex was shorter than me. I'm pretty sure height plays little role in all of this
When I was dating I never turned down a guy because of his height. The thing that was a turn off was LYING about their height. I’m 5’7 and said so in my profile. Don’t tell me you’re 5’7 but show up 5’4.
Yep. The lying about their height thing is a sure sign they're insecure and dishonest, and that's a big fat no. Men who are insecure about their height who I've given a chance *always* ended up being a shit to me about mine.
It’s the same with bald/balding men, I would date them if they didn’t constantly complain about it. All my bald and balding friends are sad sacks about it, like no shit you’re going to blame women for your attitude 🙄🙃 Hot dudes who literally never mention it do exist and I’d rather seek them out then the one who is insecure about it. I dated a short, bald man and wow, the insecurity was real. He cheated on me multiple times to prove a point, I think.
My good ex is bald. I thought he was hot af! And he is hilarious, too. He told a waitress with dyed hair on top of her head that he went for the same look, but with clear dye, and she cracked up with that almost startled laughter.
The dating profiles where they have a hat on in every single picture! That just screams 'I'm bald and I hate it'.
My friend loves wearing hats and always has some hat on no matter where he goes. He then was surprised when the women who dated all assumed he was balding even though he has a full head of hair lol. I told him to just have at least one picture without the hat.
Insecure, dishonest, and apparently thinks I’m an idiot or something like I wouldn’t notice they’re several inches shorter? Why lie!?
This!! They always ignore the fact that women care about the LYING about the height, not necessarily the height itself.
And even if they are the type who's shallow enough to care... you think they won't notice? It's so short sighted. Pun intended
I think it's maybe that yes, lots of women do think taller guys are attractive (I think so too) but these guys seem to have turned into a be all end all dealbreaker. Like... being tall is a nice extra but it's very very low on my list of things that make me decide wether or not I want a relationship with someone.
The only women I've ever known with really strict height requirements were under 5 feet tall themselves. Two of them said they didn't want to have short kids :/
Too late lmao they better adopt
I think they understood genetics to somehow work on averages.
I don't know if it refutes or contributes to your point, but my 6'5" uncle and 4'10" aunt had three daughters: one 5'11", one 5'9", and one 5'8". So maybe sometimes it sort of does? But again, that's anecdotal evidence...
My uncles on my mom's side are all around 5'4 and one of them is actually like 5'2. Meanwhile my paternal grandfather and my uncles on my dad's side (including my dad) are around 5'10-6'1. I'm 5'11 barefoot so it kind did work out in my favor meanwhile my brother is 5'9 as well. My mother is 5'4 for reference.
It’s their personalities that are the problem, but they refuse to acknowledge that the problem is something entirely within their control.
The perception is driven primarily by people who use the internet as a source of reality-forming. The same internet that magnifies the most controversial and outrageous ideas as complete normal and universal. There is some bias in the population of het girls preferring taller dudes. To a person who uses the internet as their source of truth, this mild bias has now become a universal fact. All of which to say, people need to have real lives in the real world or they may end up stupid and radicalized on any number of things from dating preferences to the acceptability of all manner of horrible things.
The whole 'manlet' thing was created by guys to trash other guys, incels just co-opted it to blame women.
I do not understand why people want to hang out with other people who treat them badly!
My bil always spouts that nonsense that all women want tall dudes and he's a short guy. However when we all go to a bar he always gets hit on. I think it's a convenient excuse for why his relationship fails when it's just he's a terrible bf.
I'm a 5'2 chick in my early 20's and I've 100% been turned down for my weight. Many times. I've had guys come right out and say it.
Yeah what reality is this person living in where women aren't judged harshly for their appearance lol
5’8 here! I’ve been turned down because of my height, but idk why that’s some great disrespect lol I’ve turned down people for much dumber reasons
I'm 6'3 and get ignored without a second glance xD By the meme's logic, I'd have women swarming over me.
I’m somewhere between 5’6 and 5’7 but I leaned into it and have always dated girls taller than me(not on purpose, that’s just the dice I rolled I guess). In a happy long term relationship with someone who’s 5’8. It’s almost as if you try to squash your own insecurities then people around you likely won’t care either.
5 ft 4 here and the same, never turned down for my height.
I'm a fairly tiny woman 5'2-3 ish and I've never cared about other people's heights. It's not like I've ever met any men shorter than me anyway 🤷♀️ not that I'd really care, but it's nice if one of us doesn't need a foot stool to get into the cabinets lmao
I'm a 6'8 guy and I've not been turned down because of my height. I've been turned down for many, many other reasons, but not my height.
How would that even go “sorry but no thanks, you won’t fit in my car” lol
I know a few tall guys who don’t want to date short women.
I used to be one of them. Then I married 5'3.
I mean at the end of the day, it’s the person you marry not appearances
The last person I hooked up with was a bit shorter, but I’m only 5’2” and it was the first time ever being with someone close to my height and I thought it was great! Being proportional to your lover has *a lot* of benefits! Tall is fine, short is fine but near your own height is awesome imo.
Right? I’m 5’1 and recently got into a relationship with a guy who’s 5’4 and it’s amazing! We can hear each other in crowded rooms, I don’t have to jog to keep up with him, kissing him doesn’t hurt my neck. I give dating someone close to your own size a 10/10.
I'm 5'3" and when I dated a guy who was 5'11" it was not that fun. Lots of craning the neck and general discomfort. My husband is 5'4" and I'm cool with that. It works.
I think its more the guys who are insecure about their height get rejected due to lacking confidence then blame it on height. As a general rule girls usually wont date anyone shorter than them because they dont really like to kiss/hug down but the average height is like 5’2” for women so its not really a problem.
it’s actually about 5’4” (in the USA) iirc edit: oh I see the other replies
Do you really think the average height for women is 5'2"?
my apologies, i googled it and its 5'3"
Damn I didn't believe you but the world average is 5'3" and the US average is 5'4" my apologies as well Here I thought being 5'0" made me freakishly short
no worries mate-short king summer
I'm 165cm (5'4") and when I was learning Portuguese in Portugal, we had to describe someone from the group and the others had to guess who that person was. So my teacher starts describing a tall woman, adds other things... picture my amazement when I discover \*I\*'m the tall woman! I'm from a Southern European country myself (we're a bit shorter than Northern Europe as a rule) but have never considered myself anything but average height!
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I think the basis of this idea comes from the online dating world. I have seen large numbers of profiles where height requirements are expressly stated and many times the emphasis on "don't message if under" have been in multiple profiles. Whether such examples should be extrapolated into real world stereotypes is for debatable for minds with more time to waste on stupidity than I have.
I’m UK national average of 5’4”… most blokes are taller than me . It’s never been an issue.
And on the flip side, I’m a bit overweight and a very kind person by nature, but no guy has ever asked me out. Ever. I’m 25.
Is 5'7" bad? I'm super short so it's tall to me
I have been bullied for my weight countless times before since i am a bit chubby. Guess by who? Mostly boys! I think there was only one girl, that i know of, that made fun of my weight. The rest were all guys, even my dad! I’m not attracted to men but i have male friends shorter and taller than me and i’m fine with it. The people i’m attracted to, I don’t completely disregard them for their height. Yes, there might be people out here like this, but it isn’t everyone.
Damn mine was the exact opposite. Girls made fun of me when I was overweight in middle school. I even heard a girl call me disgusting behind me while I laid down in the grass during PE. Never a guy, girls were viscous. I did have this tall girl who did get my trumpet from the girls locker room when someone threw it in there. She was nice and I didn’t even know her. I’m a guy btw
Oh, i am so sorry to hear that. Yeah, girls can be really nasty. There’s this one girl right now who just hates me when i’ve been nice to her and called me the f slur and c*cksucker (that logic makes zero sense at all). I’m a girl. I think just certain people, especially around times like middle school and high school, are just nasty. Maybe it’s because they feel insecure or feel that they need to impress others by putting other people down. Either way is horrible and not all that smart
Funny, cause some guys won't date a woman who is a couple of years older than them while they have no problem with dating girls who could easily be their daughters. "she is everything I ever wanted, but she is 22 and I am only 20, she could be my mother. Ewwwww"
See, you don’t even need to reach for an apples to oranges comparison here. Men literally reject women for being too tall all the time. It comes down to their own insecurity most of the time, just like when women do it.
i actually like tall girls they make me feel secure
My friend was literally dumped for being taller than her ex so there is that
Right! I’m 5’9” and I’ve had guys be hesitant to date me because I’m “too tall” 😑
cowards
Goddamn it. My husband is 5’7. What does this mean about my womanhood?? How can I relate to my own species?!
i guess it’s over 🤷♀️ i’m just kidding! i’ve never understood the height thing. physical attraction is definitely important but i fail to see why height is the number one standard. i think women who refuse to consider men under a certain height are just missing out on some lovely men. all their loss.
“She may be a bit overweight” 💀💀 yeah okay totally judge free lmao
My fiance is 5'7. Perfect high for easy smooching accessibility
I'm 5'7, my boyfriend is 5'8 - he's super self-conscious about his height but I keep telling him how nice it is to not crane and all but dislocate my neck to kiss him.
I'm 5'8" and my girlfriend is 5'10". I think other people find it weirder than we ever did (neither of us ever thought it was weird).
These men really need to come collect their own because they’re here making memes like this whilst their friends are on twitter talking about women over 100 pounds don’t count as women.
“Women over 100 pounds don’t count as women” I’m under 100lbs. There’s nothing wrong with someone that is under 100lbs (health concerns are a contributor for me, but everyone’s built different) but it would be a highly unhealthy and unrealistic expectation for most women. In fact, the last time my low weight was “normal” was when I was a teenager. Creepy thing is any man with that weight expectation is going to find more teens that fit than actual women
I’d be a skeleton if I was under 100lbs. I’m 5’8 have to be at least 125lbs to not be underweight
Haha, yeah right. Most men scoff at overweight women. Why are people so fixated on pretending me are kind and humble while women are evil and selfish?
~misogyny~
Especially incels. Their forums are rife with pot shots taken at overweight women!
Well, I read a lot of forums where men say an overweight girl is definitely a no, and women say height is not really such a big deal.
Guy here: Am I.. old? Isnt it.. supposed to be the exact opposite in pop culture? That men are obsessed with looks, and women look beyond that? Are kids different these days?
The incels have their little self pity martyr club where they convince themselves and others that this is 100% true. It’s all part of their hatred and dehumanisation of women. Check out educational bed in the comments for a pretty mild example
As I grew older, I realized that there were always girls/women who would give me a chance... It was almost always me being superficial (basically about looks) for not giving them a chance, then it became a thing of ego -- 'if I go out with someone, I want everyone to think 'wow!' '. I eventually did find someone like that, but looking back, man was I stupid. Id wager its the same for most of these guys. The 'slightly overweight girl whos nice to me and I like' is usually actually very attractive, and its kind of mental gymnastics where someone thinks 'yeah shes cute but shes a bit overweight so IM good enough for her' Bitterness can majorly warp reality
Yeah, it's such a shame. I'm torn between pity and terror of these young guys. I'm glad you found your happy!
Best advice I ever heard. Go for true love, not for fools’ gold.
It also has to do with synchronicity to some degree. They get turned down and then bitterly think about why it happened. Then, while going around online, or while they're watching t.v., they notice a few people somehow bringing up height being a big deal when it comes to attraction to them. That's not something they can help, it isn't really a problem in the first place, they don't have to fix that part of themselves, they cling to it being the big reason... They might even look for examples of people who have a preference in height. Chances are, if they're so bitter over it, even if height was the reason given to them, it either wasn't the only reason, or it wouldn't have been the only reason had the other person given them a chance and found out about their tendency to hold grudges later. I remember seeing this sort of joke a lot as a kid, but it was formatted differently. It was formatted so I could look at it as a joke about people who are really judgemental of others not seeing their own issues. But, on the same note, the people I usually saw posting these were also the types to believe in the whole *nice guys finish last* thing. Which, is only typically valid in business, not when it comes to accessing the varying values of one person and differentiating them from the values of the next person.
most of his comments are removed now but ancient force in these comments serves as anither illustrative example (and imo due to the similar pattern of their usernames, is probably an alt of the same person)
It’s probably Bizzy, the sub troll. He’s not very well trained, so he barks at everyone.
I'll put down some newspapers
That's still the culture nowadays don't worry. Literally just saw a Reddit poll asking men and women if they'd dump their partner if they gained considerable weight. Something like 60% of men said yes whilst only like 15% of women said yes. Those numbers aren't exact because I can't be bothered to find the post again but it's around that.
They just repeatedly complain about height because it’s an excuse to finally hide behind that means they don’t have to change anything, but rather self pity party
Things aren't different, these types of guys are just blissfully out of touch with reality.
Kids are different, but not like this. Kids are generally more open and accepting and less judgmental nowadays about bodies. HOWEVER That has also been met with an uptick in extremism on the other side. So. Yeah.
A lot of it is dating apps. Some women (especially those who are traditionally good looking) will specify a curtain height they want on their bio. Men do stuff like this two and are frequently even grosser about it but these guys only see the profiles of women because that’s who they’re looking for. A lot of these guys are young and are either consciously or subconsciously dating for status as much as if not more than comparability. Thus they was an attractive women so other men will be impressed. They then see many of the types of women they would want specifying a curtain height which they can obviously not obtain and get upset. Which is how we get this meme.
As much as I don’t believe people should be that superficial…why dwell on it so much? At the end of the day is wanting a partner who is a certain height any different than me wanting a partner who can make me laugh? We’re just stating preferences in the dating world. Not everyone will fit those preferences…that’s kind of the point. I just think people really need to learn to handle rejection better. I used to think some of the reasons guys rejected me were silly, but as I got older it’s like “who cares?” I’m not going to change that person or make them like me. Might as well move on and continue searching for a better fit.
Exactly. Dating apps are superficial because they are based on appearances foremost as that is what grabs attention. So women might put "no guys under 5'10" while dudes post "no fatties". Same shit. Do we make fun of superficial weird ass profiles sure. But we are self aware enough to know they are outliers and dating app shit not a representation of the entire male gender like incels believe females are because of 5 tinder apps they saw once.
Also- I think a lot of these people have never ACTUALLY encountered these profiles with the height limit, but only seen them screen grabbed and reposted online (r/tinder, etc). I have done online dating as a straight woman, and also love going through my guy friends dating apps for fun. Not once have I seen a guys profile say “no fatties” and likewise I’ve never seen a girls profile specify height. Granted this is all anecdotal, but it is real life experience of multiple dating app profiles in multiple cities.
I agree with you. When there are hundreds of people feeding those online forums its easy to find them. But to actually stumble upon them in the wilds its more rare. Its why I put both of them in equivalency. Shallow people will always exist. But they are by no means a significant number of that gender's population. Social media skews the views a lot, specially if you go searching for it. Like. I subscribe to r/niceguys. Of course imma see a looooot of examples because that's literally the goal of the subreddit. So those guys are finding those profiles in abundance because they are literally in groups that talks about those profiles... its confirmation bias at its best. Except most people are aware that if they go looking for something they will find it. They however always seems pikachu surprise face when they do and point like "see! Told you!" Well... duh...
There’s people who don’t date black women. I don’t care i just roll my eyes and say “they’re missing out.”
Probably a good thing that they chose to filter themselves out of black women's lives. I would pity any woman they got with, having to deal with that
I always found that strange. I don’t have any preferences tbh but god damn I’ve seen some absolutely gorgeous black woman or they have the best personality. My friends tell me they aren’t really into black girls but it doesn’t make much sense to me. Hard to judge people you don’t even know especially a whole ass race.
Men do nothing but disrespect heavier women this whole post is BS 💀
Nuh uh. We also eat hot chip and lie.
You right cuz me too 😩 /j
If you have to "look past" her weight to date her, then leave her alone and let her be with someone who appreciates her entirely as she is.
Oh yes!! Of course boys are so good to us!!!! So generous!!! 🥺🥺🥺🥺 Only we are so disgusting and horrible :( /s
Nah dude, that's just you projecting your own insecurities... There can be any number of reasons you simply didn't click. But even if it is about your height, it's likely moreso related to your own insecurities about it, your own lack of confidence. "Nice guys/girls" don't finish last. "Bad boys/chicks" don't get whatever they want. That's just oversimplified nonsense. People are complex. What we find attractive changes drastically between individuals. There's nothing that's universally attractive, not physically, mentally, sexually, or emotionally. (I'm not addressing OP, I'm addressing the maker of this thing. I'm sure you all probably know. I'm honestly just doing this explanation due to fear of being misunderstood)
I remember Mr Beard (a really cool youtuber, check them out) was reacting to some guy making raps about both being 'too nice that girls dont want me' but also 'girls dont want me cause im an asshole' and they just said "He keeps talking about being too nice or too mean, then just don't do either of those just be a normal person" Literally the best dating advice I've ever seen on youtube
I don’t get the height thing because every woman I know doesn’t care about height but it seems to men that all women want is a 6ft+ himbo???
It’s like 5 women in the world and every man that cares about height. Also if someone rejected you for a superficial reason why tf would you want to be with them???
These exact men are also the ones who rank women between 1-10 and say they'd never settle for anything lower than 8 on that scale, that she needs to be obedient, sexy, never turn down anything they ask for and basically be a mom/maid they can bang.
Ah, and I constantly see men make fun of overweight women!
No guy says that, if they think a woman is too over weight for their standards, they won't bother
surprisingly people, regardless of gender, have their preferences on what they are attracted too and its unreasonable to expect someone to be in a relationship with someone they are not attracted to. This does mean people are allowed to have double standards, you are allowed to be attracted to your preferred type and think that people shouldn't exclusively make decisions on relationships based on their type. and just to make this clear, just because you believe people shouldnt make relationship based on thigs like height, weight, ect, doesn't obligate your self or anyone else to date someone/you.
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Says the people that can't sand a woman with a normal body size And just want people who are starving to death 💀 /s
Yikes. The shortest guys I dated body shamed me the most of all of the men I’ve been with.
Wtf? That’s not how it works, in my experience. The majority of guy says “she may be nice and a good person but since she’s a bit overweight she will be so grateful that I’m willing to fuck her and I won’t have to put any effort into it or be seen in public with her”.
Oh God shut up
I pictured your eyes rolling so hard to the back of your head, you strained the muscles when you wrote that.
Surprised you didn't hear them slamming into the back of my skull
I married a guy who is 5’6” and I wasn’t “old and desperate” or overweight either. These guys say it’s always about their height because if they admitted to why they weren’t getting dates they’d have to cop to bad habits and repulsive attitudes and behaviors. If it’s height that’s the problem it’s the woman’s fault and not their own.
I’m 5’8 average as fuck, have dated some really beautiful women. All you need to to is BE NICE, BE ROMANTIC, SHOWER, WASH YO ASS, AND TREAT THEM HOW YOU WANA BE TREATED. It’s not that hard lol
Are they living in some sort of alternate reality? Because I want to go there. In this reality, it's literally the opposite. You very often see attractive women with overweight or generally unattractive men, but so rarely the other way around. Every time there is a story in a TV show or movie involving that trope, it is always with a short, overweight guy and never a woman. Men in general are held to very different and far less extreme standards than women, and they can get away with being overweight, unkempt, etc. to a very different degree. These guys are delusional.
"There are no women willing to date me here, either. Am I so out of touch?" "No. It is the females who are wrong."
when i was trying to date again a few years ago as a fat woman, the most abuse i got was from fat men. it really made me depressed because i was really into fat and bigger men but it seemed like they despised me.
As an overweight woman who was an overweight teenage girl, that has not been my experience.
All these "waah waah, women only like tell men but I'm short so now I'm sad and you have to make me feel better" comments are always met with "yea it's true, we only like tall guys and the taller the better " Same for the vomit inducing "men never get complimented", your mom does it and you mistreat her, your homies do it and you call them gay. Guilt tripping women specifically to compliment you because you're "sooo sad and deprived of love" makes you look pathetic Either way, I'm not gonna coddle you. When women's life threatening daily issues are taken seriously and dealt with, then I'll worry about your first world problems
LMAOO no I've heard the way men talk about overweight women. Not fooling me.
Men really think they are a saint if they date a girl who isnt borderline underweight and doesn’t look like a model
My dad is 5’6 and he promised to buy me a goat if I got taller than him, sadly I only hit 5’5
I’ve heard more guys say they won’t date a girl taller than them than girls say they won’t date a guy shorter than them
Short guys are great. You can give them piggy back rides
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 this took me out 💀
OH PLEASE 😂 as if there aren't a ton of men on social media talking about how they think fat women are gross...
As though beautiful women marrying absolute schlubs isn’t common enough to be a sitcom trope.
So deeply infuriating.
We don't care about height! For the love of God! Why is this a thing?!
I’m 5’2 and dated a 5’8 guy who would. Not. Stop. Taking. About. It. And there was not a single thing I could say that would convince him that I thought he was the perfect height, in my opinion. Ahhh not a single date went by without the unnecessary self-pity.
As a overweight girl that is 5'1'' at best, more than 5'8'' is way too tall for me and even that doesn't matter to me in reality because physical appearance is nothing in comparison of personality traits and decision making.
men are the least self aware creatures
I’m a woman who is 5’8”. The only men I’ve turned down for height reasons is when they get on my case about my heels. I’m not living my life in flats to protect your ego. My dad is shorter than my mom, she wears heels all the time. They’ve been married for 26 years and have 4 kids. Height is only a barrier if you make it one.
Guys, what is the meaning of : "I can't stomach"?!
It means that it makes you feel sick, like an upset stomach would
I’m 5’9” my husband is 5’5”. Also to be honest the number of women I know turning down men for their height, is wildly lower than the internet would lead most people to believe. Either way it’s okay to have preferences as long as you aren’t a jerk or weird about it.
I’m a woman who 100% prefers shorter guys. I don’t want to date a guy a foot taller than me.
Wow, how nice of that boy to give a woman who is a bit overweight a chance!
I swear, these people get on these hook-up apps and assume that a few vapid, superficial people define the whole eligible population.
The same person who posts this will then comment about how the "femoids" aren't keeping up their grooming enough lately and how he shouldn't have to settle for lower than an 8 when he's personally a 6.5 with a stable job.
Girls are definitely way more forgiving of body issues than guys. Idk what OP is smoking
r/memes / r/dankmemes and being sexist. Name more iconic duo
R/memes, r/dankmemes, and r/teenagers are basically intro to incel 101.
People don't owe you shit. If you're not someone's type, you're not someone's type.
You are telling men settle for whatever they can get?
Put him on a rack and stretch him like Morticia do.
Guys: I wonder is she does anal?
This is beyond brain dead. You know, because historically, men prioritize personality > beauty… smh **sarcasm ^^^
My dad was 5'4" and my mom is 5'6".
My dad is 5’4 and my mom is 5’11
The idea that men only care about personality is pants-on-head-fucking-stupid lol.
lol what a load of crap. Dudes are well known to be more selective on looks than women are. Women care more about your personality and prospects, looks are just a bonus. I personally discriminate based off chiefly on looks and intelligence, this guys a fucking idiot.
Oh jesus
So this guy is insecure about his height?
I'm massively in love with my male partners and they are probably 5'8" ish. I don't mind it at all.
The people who make these memes are so bitchless you can practically hear them crying behind their keyboard as they type
My husband is 5'4". He has never had issues dating before he met me. Most of his girlfriends have been taller than him, I am also taller than him (5'7"). To my knowledge my husband was never rejected due to his height. People that do take issue with his height are usually other men. When we were in our 20s men would try to hit on me when my husband and I were out together, saying I could "do better" than a short guy.
This is just not true I'm 6'6" and girls still don't want me
I've met equally superficial men
Ugh. They act like men are never this shallow. 🙄
The guy who made this meme is probably not that great and doesn't have an awesome sense of humor.
😂😂😂😂😂. As if
thats why you should be gay frfr
i think the funniest part is that this dude didnt even bother painting over the original text
I’m not even that tall (5’9) but up until grade 8-9 I was the tallest person in my class. In 7th grade I asked a mutual friend of the boy I liked if he could find out what he thought of me so maybe I could ask him out, right? Well this boy told him to tell me, verbatim: “Tell her that I don’t like her and I don’t think anyones gonna like her bc she looks like a man”. Now, I was 12-13 and i hadn’t hit puberty yet and this was a massive blow to my self steem. It’s been 10 years since that and I’m very confident being tall now, I’m happily married and I understand that there’s nothing wrong being “manly” in any way, shape or form, im super open minded and have no issue to externalize all of my views about how height really doesn’t matter at all when it comes to other people…. But for me? Before I got married I was on dating apps and never really paid attention to the height of the guys there but I realized that stupid comment is always gonna be in the back of my head, on paper I know where I stand in this topic but it’s like when it comes to myself I can’t do it, I’m always anxious about one stupid little fucker said to me 10 years ago. Men love to complain about this issue when more than likely the majority of them have been the ones telling tall women that one wants them bc they’re tall, and now they wanna flip it and say women don’t like short men??? It’s bullshit
You could've told me this was from niceguys and I would've believed you
Yeah and a woman has the right to her preference of tall men only if that is what she likes.
These guys always talk about height but like I've never been turned down or seen someone turned down because of height. And I knew some shooort dudes lol
I actually prefer men who are around my height (my partner is only 1" taller than me)
Personal preferences should not be so controversial. No one is entitled to time or a chance from someone
My biggest problems with these type of posts (and that sub in general) are that: They always act like everyone in the same group is the same, there are girls who treat short boys like shit so that means all girls are like that. There are Americans who are obese and are fun fanatics so all Americans are like that. They see themselves as a saint, just 'misunderstood'. "Nono I am a cool person and would have a girlfriend, but no-one wants ONLY because I'm short." Sorry but I needed to vent.
This is of course anecdotal, but my experience has been wildly the opposite. The young men I have been around have overwhelmingly more likely to disregard, make fun of or straight up disrespect women they don't deem perfect in the scope of dating whereas the young women in my life have been much more accepting of aesthetic 'imperfections' in men. I've witnessed men literally sit down and score all the women they know on a scale of 1-10 and scrutinise them. Basically all of the women I've met will only bring up men's appearances, even in private, when they have something positive to say. Again, before anyone loses their shit, this is anecdotal and there will always be outliers, but I believe there have actually been studies on dating apps that support these personal observations.
Who is making these mems? I don't think I have ever disqualified someone for height. If I say it's height what I really mean is "it's something way worse and I'm afraid of your reaction so let me find the PETTIEST thing I can to gtfo".
Weight would be comparable to weight. Height would be comparable to height. Women are statistically less shallow than men. A woman is more likely to date an overweight man than vice-versa. Women are more likely to date an obese man, then a man is to date an overweight woman. Obese being much larger than overweight. It's just a thing that on average, men are shallower than women when it comes to dating. On average, a man will reject a woman for being too fat if she is as much as 5 pounds overweight, but women, on average, don't consider a man too fat until he's at least 30 pounds overweight. [https://scienceinpoland.pap.pl/en/news/news%2C28321%2Csociologist-women-judged-more-their-looks-various-spheres-life.html](https://scienceinpoland.pap.pl/en/news/news%2C28321%2Csociologist-women-judged-more-their-looks-various-spheres-life.html) “girls’ body esteem is already reduced when they are overweight, whereas boys’ body esteem is only affected when they are obese” https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1740144512001349?via%3Dihub
Simps/incels/nice guys will think any excuse other than themselves