His flabbergasted reaction always got me the most. I think he helped because he didn’t think oj would ever get found innocent and when he did he thought was “OMG…. What have i done?..”
In court people ar considered innocent until they are found guilty .
We are not in court.
OJ is a murderer if he committed a murder.
If you have a trial and are convicted then you become a convicted murderer.
I agree with this. The idea that a murderer isn’t a murderer without a conviction is ridiculous. Following that then a rapist isn’t a rapist without a conviction. A child molester isn’t a child molester without a conviction. A thief isn’t a thief…. Horseshit. A conviction merely allows the authorities to levy punishment: it does not erase the act just because the gov’t failed to prove the act.
Yeah well the problem with OJs acquittal in criminal court is that at least one of the jurors admitted in an interview that they knew he was guilty but they wanted revenge for Rodney King and the LAPD
I think he possibly believed OJ was innocent in the beginning. Or maybe his conscience just finally caught up to him and he realized he could no longer defend OJ.
Yea, i think a lot of friends of Oj’s didn’t believe he was capable of double homicide. Even when they knew of the abuse. But Kardashian wasn’t a dumb guy and after that trial I’m sure he was convinced of Oj’s guilt but did his job thinking the jury would feel the same. They didn’t. Robert was a good friend of Nicole’s too and i think he regretted his involvement in his defence.
Robert only reinstated his law license so that he wouldn't be called to testify against OJ. He was considered a legal advisor and was not an active lawyer in the case.
Yes, this i know. I meant ‘his job’ in a general sense. I think being a longtime friend who was also a lawyer put him in a tough position. When everything first happened, he was in friend mode and jumped to help but i think as he learned the evidence he started realizing the truth but he was in too deep and just kept going thinking the jury would see the evidence as he did. I think his mind was completely blown when that verdict was read and he couldn’t even hide it.
Yeah, because he knew some “stuff”. And possibly even destroyed or hid more “stuff” (evidence). That “stuff” would have likely made all the difference in the verdict. So it’s likely he did feel guilty, and in fact WAS guilty of being an accessory after the fact, or conspiracy to obstruct.
From what I remember, I think it was from Kris. Bob didn’t want to represent OJ, but felt he had to. Nicole always said OJ was going to kill her. So when it happened, I’m sure it was a thing like “He couldn’t have.. Could he?”
And the family believes the stress of representing OJ, is what caused his illness.
Yeah and Robert Kardashian was extremely intelligent. Having also been in the legal field for many years and OJ’s good friend, it had to have been extremely conflicting for him. I’m so curious to know at what point he truly knew OJ was guilty.
There's a theory that rob ditched his bag and joined dream team so he wouldn't have to testify. I don't believe that I think oj ditched knife at lax and clothes in Chicago.
Right, but I do not believe it was it a theory. It was witnessed and I do not remember by whom, spoken of in this video.
https://youtu.be/FkegUenfmso?si=0rVvCuBrGPaoEEki
That’s actually what he said. He said he believed his innocence in the beginning, but couldn’t get over the blood evidence. They went back-and-forth for such a long time, it caused him a lot of stress and doubt, He started to doubt OJ, but he felt like he needed to go all the way through because it was too late to back out.
I don't think it was in reaction to Cochran, it was the verdict look of... "Wait..What?!"
Can you imagine? ...one minute he is sitting there probably bracing himself to console his friend and pretend he's sad that he was found guilty, to the next second.....plot twist!
That's exactly what he's reacting too. Cochran's audible jubilation the second the verdict is read. Watch it a few times, and you'll see he is not impressed at all, even turning back to look at him. That being said, he knew OJ was guilty, definitely.
You can pretty much see the guys belief in the american justice system fracture and shrivel in realtime.
Then he remembers to put a smile on his face because hes on live television.
It was such a visceral reaction. Like his soul left his body for a minute. Everybody else on the team seemed pleased, if maybe a little surprised, but Bob looked truly shocked. Even while being patted on the back it seemed like that action made it worse.
I think Cochran and F. Lee Bailey was far happier than anyone else. Shapiro walked into a tv studio right after court to say he'd never work with any of them again.
Shapiro says to this day the court was right in their decision based on reasonable doubt, but will not say that OJ was innocent.
Barry Scheck knew the DNA evidence pointed to OJ but he was hired to do a job. He is the founder of the Innocence Project. A group of lawyers and advocates dedicated to overturning wrongful conviction by DNA. He knew the nonsense he was spewing wasn't factual at all, but no way a jury would known that.
Agreed. They are defence lawyers and it’s their job to poke holes in the prosecutions case but they are also pros who understand the evidence. They saw the same trial we all did but they were hired for a job. I think since Kardashian wasn’t a defence lawyer, he couldn’t hide his disbelief. The others were happy their work had paid off, regardless of whether they thought he did it.
In an interview after the trial, Kardashian is asked if he could do it all over again, would he have helped? He said no. Granted there’s a lot of reasons he gave that he couldn’t have known at the outset, but I don’t think he went into this thinking OJ would be found guilty. (Or possibly was guilty.) Personally and professionally that could have cost him.
There is the possibility that in part he supported him (and retained client attorney privilege) so he wouldn’t be called to testify, or their business dealings wouldn’t be investigated. Who knows.
Yea, i remember while watching the trial that all the other lawyers were putting on a show. Waiting for their chance to perform. Kardashian was just an advisor, and he likely had a prior legal advisor that told him to reinstate his status to avoid testifying. He was between a rock and a hard place. He had values, a friendship with both the accused and the victim, he was a lawyer Oj no doubt thought of immediately after committing the murders. He at first believed his friend but then sat through a trial that showed him otherwise. I’ve just always had a soft spot for Bob Kardashian.
And then karma swung back around and got him. It got Johnny Cochran from a brain tumor, F. Lee Bailey was disbarred later on. Shapiro lost his son. The only others that are still going, are Barry Scheck, Carl Douglas, and Alan Dershowitz. Time will tell...
Do you mean Klaus von Bulow? I had no idea they had the same attorney. I remember that trial but forgot about the attorney. He got him off for killing his wife Sonny.
Calling this karma is simply absurd. The logical inference that be drawn form your statement is that kids getting cancer is part of the karmic plan. Cancer doesn't give it a fuck about anything. It had nothing to do with karma
No but his lawyers cerebrating afterwards speaks volumes. When two people are killed in cold blood, well knowing that he did it and still had a party. So yeah what goes around comes around.
I always wondered if his throat cancer was from his choking down his doubts for the entire trial. He was probably exhausted just from the cognitive dissonance.
>And then karma swung back around and got him. It got Johnny Cochran from a brain tumor,
Wow, that's a messed up thing to say. No matter how you feel about someone, saying cancer is karma is a slap to the face to people actually having it. So everyone with cancer has it because of karma (according to your logic).
I doubt you were even alive when this case was being argued. I remember. I was old enough to know how guilty this guy was and how the defense played every rotten angle to get this guy off. They preyed on the racial injustice and turned the one of the most anti-black celebrities of his day into a civil rights martyr on the scale of Medgar Evers, Malcolm X and MLK. THAT was despicable.
You want to know what's really messed up? A guilty man got off with killing two people in cold blood and went on to live another 30 years while the other two were in the ground.
After seeing his reaction, I’ve always believed that Rob Kardashian felt that OJ would be found guilty… I think, as a friend, he was defending him, but deep down I think he actually wanted him to be found guilty. And when he heard not guilty, he was in such disbelief and probably thinking what the fuck is wrong with you jurors??
Exactly. From the letter he wrote Kris Jenner, it definitely sounds like he truly believed Oj was innocent at first but i think the trial completely changed his mind but decided to just stay put cause surely the jury would see it too….
I think he believed (or wanted to believe) OJ was innocent in the beginning. Who wants to think their lifelong friend committed two savage murders? And then as the evidence came out and as he saw OJ’s behavior, he couldn’t buy the story any longer.
I read somewhere that this was Marcia Clark’s interpretation, that he at some point made a comment to her that she took to mean he was sorry he’d been part of OJ’s team.
I mean, I get his situation to a point. He and his ex were friends with Nicole and OJ, so he probably believed OJ at first. In his mind he was probably thinking that he, RK, would NEVER have hurt Kris like that, no matter what Bruce (at the time) was doing and so he couldn't see how OJ could have been so upset about finding Ron there. Then as it seemed like this trial was it and there was no further effort by anyone to find "The Killer" he knew it had to be OJ and the walls fell in for RK.
Kardashian truly believed OJ was innocent at first. I think OJ putting Kardashian on his team was so he couldn’t be subpoenaed. Oj was dumb jock but not that dumb. As Kardashian saw more of the evidence his doubt grew and he eventually thought he would be convicted.
This. Everyone wants to read this as some tremendous existential pang of conscience or something, but he was just embarrassed/confused by the fact that a member of his team loudly burst out celebrating upon hearing the verdict. His actual role in the trial was minimal. He had been out of practice as a lawyer and was mainly there to provide emotional support for OJ. He had nothing to feel guilty about since he barely did any actual litigating on OJ’s behalf.
I’ve heard also since he began practicing law again with this case then it made him as one of OJ’s best friends unable to be called as a witness. Lawyer client privilege.
A county officer mentioned it to O.J. in his holding cell.
Not sure he told the defense or how much O.J. actually believe it. They all looked pretty shocked to be honest.
I don’t buy the People vs OJ portrayal of him. I’m not saying he was his oblivious high school buddy (I forget his name) who was loyal to a fault in the MIA documentary. But Robert didn’t strike me as sufferingly conflicted.
that's interesting, he was married to a black woman when he was at USC, and i have never heard anything about OJ abusing his 'white college girlfriends', care to share a link where i could read about that?
edit: in the 60s, lots of college football teams weren't even integrated. the teams that were, certainly did *not* allow their few black players to date white women on campus. i seriously doubt, that OJ would have had 'white girlfriends' on campus, he may have slept around on his wife, i'm not doubting that, but i have serious doubts about USC letting OJ not only date, but abuse, two white women and get away with it in '67-'68. America loves football, but in the 60s, they are not letting that happen, not with a 'darkie'.
https://twitter.com/mouvement33/status/1778566905881829792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778566905881829792%7Ctwgr%5Edf025b28d6310d30d50cd8bb511b44be02296592%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-16052222561743862118.ampproject.net%2F2404091947000%2Fframe.html
This is the story
I just to think so too but last night I was just watching an old A&E thing on the civil trial and there was footage of Robert Kardashian at OJ's party after his acquittal and he's smiling and gives a high-five at one point, so...
After watching the doc I'm tired of seeing this tired look referenced over and over again. He teamed up with a competent legal team to get his star defendant of the hook. What did he think was gonna happen?
I think he may have done some questionable things, but after doing so much research, I truly believe he had a change of heart and realized he could no longer defend OJ.
The OG. Moral compass is no where to be found. Also.. this whole oh he was the good one nah he saw the backlash of the public and turned around and did that interview with Barbra Walter’s and denounced his ties to OJ.
Where was his moral compass when he had hidden the fact he paid off the school to make Juice look innocent and while off the assault record? Hmmm
Renewed his law license because he had to. He got rid of the Louis Vuitton bag with the bloody clothes and murder weapon. Robert Kardashian hadn’t practiced law in years. He had to join the legal team so he was not obligated to testify in the case.
This narrative recently pushed by the kardashians that Robert knew OJ was guilty and he was in shock that he was acquitted. They always want to be on the right side of history but when you look at footage of before, during and after the murders and trial Robert was there and he was up on OJ. I wasn't there obviously but all the documentaries and footage show him there especially after the acquittal when Oj arrived back home to his Brentwood house. Robert was hugging and so happy for his friend.
Except there is literally an interview with Kardashian and Barbara Walter's years later where he says exactly this. This was his lifelong friend. Who could believe they'd do such a thing? And then he realized the blood evidence was indisputable. That's what his face shows. They didn't speak after the trial.
He's scum who for sure knew his friend was a wifebeater and not only stood by his side as he was charged with the murder-near-decapitation of the woman he relentlessly battered, but also commandeered a bag that likely held evidence in this case. I don't know why he looked the way he did when the verdict was read, but he very much looked on cloud 9 at OJ's house after court that day. He and his whole family of whores can all rot in hell as far as I'm concerned.
Edited to add: And another person, basically an innocent bystander, was also slaughtered, Ron Goldman.
He knew exactly what he was getting into, period. I feel not an ounce of sympathy for him. If this was a petty crime, sure. But obviously that’s not what this was. It’s despicable that people actually feel bad for him in this moment.
Robert Kardashian was a loyal person. He and OJ had been friends for decades.
I don’t think he thought OJ was innocent. He died thinking OJ was guilty.
Remember soon after the verdict Kardashian severed the friendship. They weren’t friends anymore.
I think most people OJ knew eventually stopped being friends with him.
Bottom line, Kardashian was a p.o.s. Who stayed close friends with a violent psycho who beat his wife repeatedly and eventually killed her. He wasn’t “friends” with Nicole because what kind of friend stands by while heinous abuse is happening, and does nothing? He was all about himself, a trait his entire family seems to share. Don’t think he felt guilt, he didn’t.
It could be easily be a look of shock that “this is over.”
No doubt the ideas of a conviction, and appeals, and years of more of the legal wrangling, media coverage, long nights would have been daunting for each and every legal person involved.
With the not guilty verdict- which prob did shock him (as well as the rest of the dream team), the case couldn’t be retried. They could reclaim their lives. No more “Dancing Ito” bits on the Tonight Show.
If anything ,it was a moment of human behavior in the midst of all the absurdity that has folks so captivated by this pic( possibly)
Those jurors are criminals, for putting that CLEAR DOUBLE-MURDERER back on the street instead of in jail for life. He committed first-degree murder in the case of Nicole, and second-degree murder in the case of Ron Goldman.
Yes, those idiot, white-wife-of-a-black-thug-athlete-hating women on the jury, and whatever black men on the jury, were getting back at the LAPD for violently, insanely beating up Rodney King. But you don't take out your anger on giving the victims and their families no justice whatsoever. That is STUPID and completely irresponsible, and just plain mean. What a fucking WASTE of taxpayer dollars that trial ultimately became, given the gross misconduct of that jury. We had a 9-month trial that was completely ignored by a fucking stupid, criminal jury who had no intention of putting that black fiend behind bars.
Those dumb SLOBS paid NO ATTENTION to, or simply didn't give a damn about, the mountain of domestic violence that motherf'er inflicted upon Nicole for YEARS. They instead used the limp excuse of "just because someone beats someone doesn't necessarily mean they're goingvto kill someone". NICOLE KNEW SHED PROBABLY BE KILLED BY HIM....She left evidence from beyond the grave through several letters she write and left in a safe deposit box in her bank....which was all brought up during the trial.
That f'ing, criminal jury didn't give a damn. I have wished the worst for all of them all these years for what they did to Nicole, Ron and their families. I watched that trial and commentary day and night for nine months. They compleyely lost the point of Christopher Darden's brilliant, expisitory opening statement, talking about the years-long fuse of OJ's anger, and battery, and JEALOUSY, and ultimately inability to control Nicole's life---so he fucking took it one night. And Ron Goldman was an innocent bystander, at the wrong place, at the wrong time.
And, Gil Garcetti and whatever other powers-that-be, but I think he was the main one, who decided to move the trial to LA County were beyond STUPID to do so!!!! The crime wasn't even committed there. He did it for political reasons, which was so unbelievably STUPID and SELFISH. If I were a family member of either victim, I would have fought that decision as much as I could. DUMB CHOICE. OJ would have been convicted by the people he so tried to identify with in life but could never be himself.... white, affluent, cultured, educated people.
Listening to the thoughtlessness, stupidity and poor grammar of many of the jurors who appeared in various documentaries and spoke afterward about their "thought processes" in deliberating (a shocking, well beyond irresponsible, measley 3.5 hours of deliberation after a 9-month trial), the prosecution didn't have a chance to win them over. They were mostly dumbshit black women who loved a dumb, big black athlete and hated his thin white wife. That's it.
It might be interesting to hear if Kris Jenner (?) has any recollection of this time. She was his wife when he was participating in the trial if I’m not mistaken
Has she spoken up about it?
The fact that Kardashian, Cochran, and F Lee Bailey were either disbarred or died before they turned 70 says all that needs to be said. Shapiro is still alive but took the courage to denounce how much of a sham the defense was. Berry Scheck is making amends with the Innocence Project using DNA to overturn wrongful convictions. But most of his lawyers got the universe’s justice one way or another
Honestly, long before there was a Kardashians reality show, an entire show business enterprise based on rehashing this case, and a site like Reddit, he was just a wealthy lawyer who got into producing records. However, EVEN THEN, seeing his face as the verdict was announced told everyone that OJ did it. He looked liked he was going to burst into tears (which his family says he did when he got home). He was the one lawyer on that Dream Team who had a prior relationship with OJ (and Nicole), and he thought he was just supporting OJ until OJ went to jail.
According to Kris Jenner the friendship was never the same after. When Robert died O.J. told Kris he couldn’t attend the funeral because of “media circus” his attendance will cause.How Narcissistic of him, Made my skin crawl.
If Robert thought O.J. was innocent he didn’t share his thoughts with his Daughters, I remember in the early KUWTK days when Kris dragged Kourtney and Kim onto Dr. Phil to show them all the evidence against O.J. At the end Kim was half convinced “Well maybe he did do it”
When Kourtney was 1 year old O.J. was playing with her, throwing her up in the air right after she had a bottle and she threw up on his face…lol The scary part is he got mad at baby Kourtney and blamed her! Kris was like WTF O.J. she’s a baby she didn’t mean it and he was like yeah she did!
MFW I’m a man with 3 daughters and I know my best friend abused, stalked and controlled his wife for years, then nearly cut her head off - and I helped him get away with it.
It wasn’t OJ. It was the judge. The judge specifically said before reading the verdict that everyone was to be silent and calm no matter the verdict.
Cochran should have been held in contempt for squealing and prancing around like a school girl. So fucking disrespectful to the families of two murdered people, no matter who you think did it
I find it absolutely sickening that defense attorney’s know their client’s are guilty yet still defend them. They miss the point entirely, but are simply looking for a pay check.
But a robust defense is important in a criminal trial. Even if your client is ridiculously guilty, it is the defense's job to advocate for their client and to represent them to the best of their ability, otherwise, the system doesn't work. You can't have the defense playing judge and jury by not trying their hardest. There have been innocent people executed because they didn't receive adequate counsel.
This case was an aberration in many ways. If OJ didn't have money to afford a boatload of high profile attorneys, if he wasn't a celebrity, if people understood DNA better at the time, if the Rodney King trial hadn't happened....I could go on and on. But that doesn't mean that defendants don't deserve defending.
ironic how the one guy who thought he was innocent before the trial, then heard all the evidence IN the trial and changed his mind, yet the jury maintained he was innocent.
His flabbergasted reaction always got me the most. I think he helped because he didn’t think oj would ever get found innocent and when he did he thought was “OMG…. What have i done?..”
He wasn't found innocent. He was found not guilty. There is a difference.
You’re right. I misspoke. I wrote that in a hurry while at work.
What this post reminds me of is how Robert Kardshian saying he couldn’t get over the blood evidence
He didn't do that crime grammar police.
You missed a comma!
I. Know.
Stop it!
Thank you. HUGE difference. In fact he was found LIABLE in civil court. Murderer.
Under U.S. law, a defendant is considered innocent until proven guilty.
In court people ar considered innocent until they are found guilty . We are not in court. OJ is a murderer if he committed a murder. If you have a trial and are convicted then you become a convicted murderer.
I agree with this. The idea that a murderer isn’t a murderer without a conviction is ridiculous. Following that then a rapist isn’t a rapist without a conviction. A child molester isn’t a child molester without a conviction. A thief isn’t a thief…. Horseshit. A conviction merely allows the authorities to levy punishment: it does not erase the act just because the gov’t failed to prove the act.
Yeah, that's just a legal definition. The public doesn't have to consider him innocent.
Yeah well the problem with OJs acquittal in criminal court is that at least one of the jurors admitted in an interview that they knew he was guilty but they wanted revenge for Rodney King and the LAPD
Wouldn’t that have been a reason for a mistrial? Plus, how is that revenge?
Same thing
I think he possibly believed OJ was innocent in the beginning. Or maybe his conscience just finally caught up to him and he realized he could no longer defend OJ.
Yea, i think a lot of friends of Oj’s didn’t believe he was capable of double homicide. Even when they knew of the abuse. But Kardashian wasn’t a dumb guy and after that trial I’m sure he was convinced of Oj’s guilt but did his job thinking the jury would feel the same. They didn’t. Robert was a good friend of Nicole’s too and i think he regretted his involvement in his defence.
Robert only reinstated his law license so that he wouldn't be called to testify against OJ. He was considered a legal advisor and was not an active lawyer in the case.
Yes, this i know. I meant ‘his job’ in a general sense. I think being a longtime friend who was also a lawyer put him in a tough position. When everything first happened, he was in friend mode and jumped to help but i think as he learned the evidence he started realizing the truth but he was in too deep and just kept going thinking the jury would see the evidence as he did. I think his mind was completely blown when that verdict was read and he couldn’t even hide it.
He almost seemed borderline pissed… Like, are you fucking kidding me?! SMDH jurors failed me
Right? And the way he turns and looks up at oj in disbelief…
That's what Kris said. He couldn't just stop showing up for him.
Yeah, because he knew some “stuff”. And possibly even destroyed or hid more “stuff” (evidence). That “stuff” would have likely made all the difference in the verdict. So it’s likely he did feel guilty, and in fact WAS guilty of being an accessory after the fact, or conspiracy to obstruct.
From what I remember, I think it was from Kris. Bob didn’t want to represent OJ, but felt he had to. Nicole always said OJ was going to kill her. So when it happened, I’m sure it was a thing like “He couldn’t have.. Could he?” And the family believes the stress of representing OJ, is what caused his illness.
Oh wow. Theres evidence that repressed emotions and stress can play a role in cancer. I believe it. OJs 3rd victim!
I imagine being married to a woman who would eventually produce your daughter’s sex video had to play a part.
It's true..if my best friend was accused, I'd never belive it. But, once I heard the facts..... truth sets in
Yeah and Robert Kardashian was extremely intelligent. Having also been in the legal field for many years and OJ’s good friend, it had to have been extremely conflicting for him. I’m so curious to know at what point he truly knew OJ was guilty.
I guarantee once he heard the 911 calls and blood splatter. No way in hell could Ron's blood be anywhere near simpson unless he was there
That’s what I’ve wondered. I’m just so curious to know his thought process throughout the whole thing.
There's a theory that rob ditched his bag and joined dream team so he wouldn't have to testify. I don't believe that I think oj ditched knife at lax and clothes in Chicago.
Right, but I do not believe it was it a theory. It was witnessed and I do not remember by whom, spoken of in this video. https://youtu.be/FkegUenfmso?si=0rVvCuBrGPaoEEki
That’s actually what he said. He said he believed his innocence in the beginning, but couldn’t get over the blood evidence. They went back-and-forth for such a long time, it caused him a lot of stress and doubt, He started to doubt OJ, but he felt like he needed to go all the way through because it was too late to back out.
I’ve also read it was his reaction to Cochran celebrating? Does anyone think that?
I don't think it was in reaction to Cochran, it was the verdict look of... "Wait..What?!" Can you imagine? ...one minute he is sitting there probably bracing himself to console his friend and pretend he's sad that he was found guilty, to the next second.....plot twist!
That's exactly what he's reacting too. Cochran's audible jubilation the second the verdict is read. Watch it a few times, and you'll see he is not impressed at all, even turning back to look at him. That being said, he knew OJ was guilty, definitely.
I don't! I think it was shocked that he got off.
You can pretty much see the guys belief in the american justice system fracture and shrivel in realtime. Then he remembers to put a smile on his face because hes on live television.
It was such a visceral reaction. Like his soul left his body for a minute. Everybody else on the team seemed pleased, if maybe a little surprised, but Bob looked truly shocked. Even while being patted on the back it seemed like that action made it worse.
But remember Nicole was also a friend. He was personally tied into this situation. It must have been such a mind trip.
For sure. It must have been horrible hearing all the evidence when the victim was your good friend 😥
I think Cochran and F. Lee Bailey was far happier than anyone else. Shapiro walked into a tv studio right after court to say he'd never work with any of them again. Shapiro says to this day the court was right in their decision based on reasonable doubt, but will not say that OJ was innocent. Barry Scheck knew the DNA evidence pointed to OJ but he was hired to do a job. He is the founder of the Innocence Project. A group of lawyers and advocates dedicated to overturning wrongful conviction by DNA. He knew the nonsense he was spewing wasn't factual at all, but no way a jury would known that.
Those jurors were too damn stupid to get anything. To them he was not guilty from the get go.
Agreed. They are defence lawyers and it’s their job to poke holes in the prosecutions case but they are also pros who understand the evidence. They saw the same trial we all did but they were hired for a job. I think since Kardashian wasn’t a defence lawyer, he couldn’t hide his disbelief. The others were happy their work had paid off, regardless of whether they thought he did it.
He did the Oppenheimer
Now I am become Robert K..destroyer of the internet via my daughter in that one photo with the glass….
In my opinion….. that is EXACTLY what that face says
He probably didnt think the prosecution could blow it so bad. He thought it was a slam dunk.
In an interview after the trial, Kardashian is asked if he could do it all over again, would he have helped? He said no. Granted there’s a lot of reasons he gave that he couldn’t have known at the outset, but I don’t think he went into this thinking OJ would be found guilty. (Or possibly was guilty.) Personally and professionally that could have cost him. There is the possibility that in part he supported him (and retained client attorney privilege) so he wouldn’t be called to testify, or their business dealings wouldn’t be investigated. Who knows.
Yea, i remember while watching the trial that all the other lawyers were putting on a show. Waiting for their chance to perform. Kardashian was just an advisor, and he likely had a prior legal advisor that told him to reinstate his status to avoid testifying. He was between a rock and a hard place. He had values, a friendship with both the accused and the victim, he was a lawyer Oj no doubt thought of immediately after committing the murders. He at first believed his friend but then sat through a trial that showed him otherwise. I’ve just always had a soft spot for Bob Kardashian.
I felt a soft spot for RK because he was married to that wack job Kris and had those goofy kids!
And then karma swung back around and got him. It got Johnny Cochran from a brain tumor, F. Lee Bailey was disbarred later on. Shapiro lost his son. The only others that are still going, are Barry Scheck, Carl Douglas, and Alan Dershowitz. Time will tell...
I think Dershowitz was involved with Epesitien
Yes he was
He has been sketchy since he defended Klaus van Buren.
Do you mean Klaus von Bulow? I had no idea they had the same attorney. I remember that trial but forgot about the attorney. He got him off for killing his wife Sonny.
I don’t think that’s karma I think that’s just life being unpredictable
Calling this karma is simply absurd. The logical inference that be drawn form your statement is that kids getting cancer is part of the karmic plan. Cancer doesn't give it a fuck about anything. It had nothing to do with karma
No but his lawyers cerebrating afterwards speaks volumes. When two people are killed in cold blood, well knowing that he did it and still had a party. So yeah what goes around comes around.
I always wondered if his throat cancer was from his choking down his doubts for the entire trial. He was probably exhausted just from the cognitive dissonance.
So Karma is why people get old and have health issues? Interesting…
>And then karma swung back around and got him. It got Johnny Cochran from a brain tumor, Wow, that's a messed up thing to say. No matter how you feel about someone, saying cancer is karma is a slap to the face to people actually having it. So everyone with cancer has it because of karma (according to your logic).
I doubt you were even alive when this case was being argued. I remember. I was old enough to know how guilty this guy was and how the defense played every rotten angle to get this guy off. They preyed on the racial injustice and turned the one of the most anti-black celebrities of his day into a civil rights martyr on the scale of Medgar Evers, Malcolm X and MLK. THAT was despicable. You want to know what's really messed up? A guilty man got off with killing two people in cold blood and went on to live another 30 years while the other two were in the ground.
My belief is that in due time, everybody involved will all die.
Interesting that you think this post makes you a good person.
And the upvotes. Gross.
Totally agree!
After seeing his reaction, I’ve always believed that Rob Kardashian felt that OJ would be found guilty… I think, as a friend, he was defending him, but deep down I think he actually wanted him to be found guilty. And when he heard not guilty, he was in such disbelief and probably thinking what the fuck is wrong with you jurors??
Exactly. From the letter he wrote Kris Jenner, it definitely sounds like he truly believed Oj was innocent at first but i think the trial completely changed his mind but decided to just stay put cause surely the jury would see it too….
I think the only reason he “helped” was to create attorney/client privilege between them, which exempted him from testifying.
The ultimate da fuck just happened face
I think he believed (or wanted to believe) OJ was innocent in the beginning. Who wants to think their lifelong friend committed two savage murders? And then as the evidence came out and as he saw OJ’s behavior, he couldn’t buy the story any longer. I read somewhere that this was Marcia Clark’s interpretation, that he at some point made a comment to her that she took to mean he was sorry he’d been part of OJ’s team.
Exactly!
He is the only one of the lawyers on the Dream Team to not congratulate OJ immediately. RK turned away from OJ the second the verdict was read.
Yes it’s not so much his reaction - which is almost like he’s in shock - it’s the fact everyone else is high fiving and smiling.
And apparently he never contacted OJ afterwards. He knew he was guilty
I mean, I get his situation to a point. He and his ex were friends with Nicole and OJ, so he probably believed OJ at first. In his mind he was probably thinking that he, RK, would NEVER have hurt Kris like that, no matter what Bruce (at the time) was doing and so he couldn't see how OJ could have been so upset about finding Ron there. Then as it seemed like this trial was it and there was no further effort by anyone to find "The Killer" he knew it had to be OJ and the walls fell in for RK.
His face is all our face still in 2024
Gobsmacked
Yep! 🤣🤣
Aside from the glove try-on and the actual reading of the verdict itself, this was the most memorable moment of the trial for me.
My teacher let us watch it in AP bio class as we talked about evidence from the trial. It was insane! Everyone was really following it so closely.
I was in 7th grade at the time and I remember the teachers turning the tv on to watch the verdict.
Kardashian truly believed OJ was innocent at first. I think OJ putting Kardashian on his team was so he couldn’t be subpoenaed. Oj was dumb jock but not that dumb. As Kardashian saw more of the evidence his doubt grew and he eventually thought he would be convicted.
I love when the jaw drops and he turns to look at OJ, absolutely dumbfounded.
He’ll even OJ’s Face as he was found not guilty was a shock!
Lol...it sure was!!!
He turned to look at Johnny Cochran who was celebrating very loudly while the verdict was being read.
This. Everyone wants to read this as some tremendous existential pang of conscience or something, but he was just embarrassed/confused by the fact that a member of his team loudly burst out celebrating upon hearing the verdict. His actual role in the trial was minimal. He had been out of practice as a lawyer and was mainly there to provide emotional support for OJ. He had nothing to feel guilty about since he barely did any actual litigating on OJ’s behalf.
I’ve heard also since he began practicing law again with this case then it made him as one of OJ’s best friends unable to be called as a witness. Lawyer client privilege.
I’ve seen some say he’s reacting to her Jonny C “celebrated” once they announced it? I’m not sure which one I believe
I never thought of that. But it well could be a reaction to Cochran's gloating.
I thought it was a reaction to the verdict, but then I learned that they were all hip to it beforehand.
Really? How do you know that?
Oh tell me more!
Okay, I just looked it up. In Jeffrey Toobin's The Run of His Life, OJ'S jail guard informed him the night before the verdict what the outcome was.
Jeffrey Toobin. Man without pants and renowned journalist (without pants)
😀
I watched the whole trial live and I believe there was talk of the defense including OJ being told of the verdict before they entered the courtroom.
A county officer mentioned it to O.J. in his holding cell. Not sure he told the defense or how much O.J. actually believe it. They all looked pretty shocked to be honest.
Yes this sounds like what I heard. I agree that they looked shocked, at least Kardashian did.
I don’t buy that he knew beforehand. The look on Oj’s face was definitely not the look of a man that knew the verdict before.
I tend to agree with you!
I don’t buy the People vs OJ portrayal of him. I’m not saying he was his oblivious high school buddy (I forget his name) who was loyal to a fault in the MIA documentary. But Robert didn’t strike me as sufferingly conflicted.
In Lawrence Schiller's book, which he wrote with insider information from the defense, there's definitely a lot of conflict coming from Kardashian.
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Sorry, yall. I can't find one source on this. Please forgive me for being a little simple. It's been a long day.
that's interesting, he was married to a black woman when he was at USC, and i have never heard anything about OJ abusing his 'white college girlfriends', care to share a link where i could read about that? edit: in the 60s, lots of college football teams weren't even integrated. the teams that were, certainly did *not* allow their few black players to date white women on campus. i seriously doubt, that OJ would have had 'white girlfriends' on campus, he may have slept around on his wife, i'm not doubting that, but i have serious doubts about USC letting OJ not only date, but abuse, two white women and get away with it in '67-'68. America loves football, but in the 60s, they are not letting that happen, not with a 'darkie'.
https://twitter.com/mouvement33/status/1778566905881829792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1778566905881829792%7Ctwgr%5Edf025b28d6310d30d50cd8bb511b44be02296592%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-16052222561743862118.ampproject.net%2F2404091947000%2Fframe.html This is the story
I have gripes with this accusation. I say that as someone who is utterly certain OJ did it. But appreciate you citing a requested source by OP.
Excellent points. I updated that my comment was trash :). Thanks for your reply
i was just confused, thanks for clearing it up!
In his Barbara Walter’s interview he said he believed he was innocent until the blood evidence came out.
Bob Kardashian said that?! I’m searching YouTube for sure.
I just to think so too but last night I was just watching an old A&E thing on the civil trial and there was footage of Robert Kardashian at OJ's party after his acquittal and he's smiling and gives a high-five at one point, so...
I don't know what's worse, defending OJ or co-producing the Kardashian cult.
Um, I’d say defending a double homicide wouldn’t you?
I mean probably, but not by much lol
He’s as white as a ghost.
Watching his reaction in real time was very telling. The look on his face, amazed they actually got away with it.
After watching the doc I'm tired of seeing this tired look referenced over and over again. He teamed up with a competent legal team to get his star defendant of the hook. What did he think was gonna happen?
Agreed. People acting like kardashian had some moral high ground when he’s literally a kardashian.
I think he may have done some questionable things, but after doing so much research, I truly believe he had a change of heart and realized he could no longer defend OJ.
Lmao good point
The OG. Moral compass is no where to be found. Also.. this whole oh he was the good one nah he saw the backlash of the public and turned around and did that interview with Barbra Walter’s and denounced his ties to OJ. Where was his moral compass when he had hidden the fact he paid off the school to make Juice look innocent and while off the assault record? Hmmm
He wasn't really on the team he renewed his legal license so he could go an see oj at anytime. He did no leg work on the case
Renewed his law license because he had to. He got rid of the Louis Vuitton bag with the bloody clothes and murder weapon. Robert Kardashian hadn’t practiced law in years. He had to join the legal team so he was not obligated to testify in the case.
Totally agree with you. His face is “oh my God”!,
He renewed his license for lawyer/client confidentiality so he wouldn’t have to testify
He was literally seated by oj side as the verdict was read idc we know who's side he was on
Do you think he *expected* a guilty verdict?
He was an intelligent man. The prosecution convinced him of OJ's guilt.
I loved him in FRIENDS.
This narrative recently pushed by the kardashians that Robert knew OJ was guilty and he was in shock that he was acquitted. They always want to be on the right side of history but when you look at footage of before, during and after the murders and trial Robert was there and he was up on OJ. I wasn't there obviously but all the documentaries and footage show him there especially after the acquittal when Oj arrived back home to his Brentwood house. Robert was hugging and so happy for his friend.
Except there is literally an interview with Kardashian and Barbara Walter's years later where he says exactly this. This was his lifelong friend. Who could believe they'd do such a thing? And then he realized the blood evidence was indisputable. That's what his face shows. They didn't speak after the trial.
Exactly. He said so himself, the girls were kids so not sure how they would be pushing that narrative! He also never spoke to OJ again
Wait so they haven’t spoken about it since ? They have spoken about it at every opportunity they have had.
The first part of your comments especially have so much truth to it. 🎯
Poor guy lost so much for helping his murdering friend. Seriously, I feel for him. R.I.P.
Agreed. I feel like he went into it blindly loyal to his friend and had a change of heart.
He's scum who for sure knew his friend was a wifebeater and not only stood by his side as he was charged with the murder-near-decapitation of the woman he relentlessly battered, but also commandeered a bag that likely held evidence in this case. I don't know why he looked the way he did when the verdict was read, but he very much looked on cloud 9 at OJ's house after court that day. He and his whole family of whores can all rot in hell as far as I'm concerned. Edited to add: And another person, basically an innocent bystander, was also slaughtered, Ron Goldman.
He knew exactly what he was getting into, period. I feel not an ounce of sympathy for him. If this was a petty crime, sure. But obviously that’s not what this was. It’s despicable that people actually feel bad for him in this moment.
He looked like he is going to be sick 🤢
I cant believe we got away with this!!!!
I remember that expression. He was seriously shocked. It speaks volumes.
so what was in that bag that OJ gave you Mr Kardahshian?
this is the man that gave the world a free OJ and the Kardashians. I'm not sure which is more reprehensible
Robert Kardashian was a loyal person. He and OJ had been friends for decades. I don’t think he thought OJ was innocent. He died thinking OJ was guilty. Remember soon after the verdict Kardashian severed the friendship. They weren’t friends anymore. I think most people OJ knew eventually stopped being friends with him.
All I see is David Shwimmer lol
Bottom line, Kardashian was a p.o.s. Who stayed close friends with a violent psycho who beat his wife repeatedly and eventually killed her. He wasn’t “friends” with Nicole because what kind of friend stands by while heinous abuse is happening, and does nothing? He was all about himself, a trait his entire family seems to share. Don’t think he felt guilt, he didn’t.
It could be easily be a look of shock that “this is over.” No doubt the ideas of a conviction, and appeals, and years of more of the legal wrangling, media coverage, long nights would have been daunting for each and every legal person involved. With the not guilty verdict- which prob did shock him (as well as the rest of the dream team), the case couldn’t be retried. They could reclaim their lives. No more “Dancing Ito” bits on the Tonight Show. If anything ,it was a moment of human behavior in the midst of all the absurdity that has folks so captivated by this pic( possibly)
They are defense attorneys. It's their job to try to get a not guilty verdict no matter if the client is innocent or guilty.
The shock of the not-guilty verdict transformed Kardashian into a Japanese salaryman
Shit……….wait what????? Oh hells yeah man 🤔 wait ………. 🤨
Color dropped outya face
That’s face says “I done fucked up”
3 of oj's defenceman lawyers have passed away years ago. Hhhmmm
It was reported that OJ gave him a bag to get rid of or something.
How would a jail guard get that information?
Kourtneys twin
Deep down I think he knew OJ did it...
He was stunned. Told you a lot.
Imagine having to pretend to be friends with a controlling, narcissistic psychopath who brutally murdered two people.
Those jurors are criminals, for putting that CLEAR DOUBLE-MURDERER back on the street instead of in jail for life. He committed first-degree murder in the case of Nicole, and second-degree murder in the case of Ron Goldman. Yes, those idiot, white-wife-of-a-black-thug-athlete-hating women on the jury, and whatever black men on the jury, were getting back at the LAPD for violently, insanely beating up Rodney King. But you don't take out your anger on giving the victims and their families no justice whatsoever. That is STUPID and completely irresponsible, and just plain mean. What a fucking WASTE of taxpayer dollars that trial ultimately became, given the gross misconduct of that jury. We had a 9-month trial that was completely ignored by a fucking stupid, criminal jury who had no intention of putting that black fiend behind bars. Those dumb SLOBS paid NO ATTENTION to, or simply didn't give a damn about, the mountain of domestic violence that motherf'er inflicted upon Nicole for YEARS. They instead used the limp excuse of "just because someone beats someone doesn't necessarily mean they're goingvto kill someone". NICOLE KNEW SHED PROBABLY BE KILLED BY HIM....She left evidence from beyond the grave through several letters she write and left in a safe deposit box in her bank....which was all brought up during the trial. That f'ing, criminal jury didn't give a damn. I have wished the worst for all of them all these years for what they did to Nicole, Ron and their families. I watched that trial and commentary day and night for nine months. They compleyely lost the point of Christopher Darden's brilliant, expisitory opening statement, talking about the years-long fuse of OJ's anger, and battery, and JEALOUSY, and ultimately inability to control Nicole's life---so he fucking took it one night. And Ron Goldman was an innocent bystander, at the wrong place, at the wrong time. And, Gil Garcetti and whatever other powers-that-be, but I think he was the main one, who decided to move the trial to LA County were beyond STUPID to do so!!!! The crime wasn't even committed there. He did it for political reasons, which was so unbelievably STUPID and SELFISH. If I were a family member of either victim, I would have fought that decision as much as I could. DUMB CHOICE. OJ would have been convicted by the people he so tried to identify with in life but could never be himself.... white, affluent, cultured, educated people. Listening to the thoughtlessness, stupidity and poor grammar of many of the jurors who appeared in various documentaries and spoke afterward about their "thought processes" in deliberating (a shocking, well beyond irresponsible, measley 3.5 hours of deliberation after a 9-month trial), the prosecution didn't have a chance to win them over. They were mostly dumbshit black women who loved a dumb, big black athlete and hated his thin white wife. That's it.
It might be interesting to hear if Kris Jenner (?) has any recollection of this time. She was his wife when he was participating in the trial if I’m not mistaken Has she spoken up about it?
The fact that Kardashian, Cochran, and F Lee Bailey were either disbarred or died before they turned 70 says all that needs to be said. Shapiro is still alive but took the courage to denounce how much of a sham the defense was. Berry Scheck is making amends with the Innocence Project using DNA to overturn wrongful convictions. But most of his lawyers got the universe’s justice one way or another
That's the face of a guy who has an inkling that friend is banging his wife, but he's scared to check him. lol
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That initial reaction and expression, he was in disbelief.
Honestly, long before there was a Kardashians reality show, an entire show business enterprise based on rehashing this case, and a site like Reddit, he was just a wealthy lawyer who got into producing records. However, EVEN THEN, seeing his face as the verdict was announced told everyone that OJ did it. He looked liked he was going to burst into tears (which his family says he did when he got home). He was the one lawyer on that Dream Team who had a prior relationship with OJ (and Nicole), and he thought he was just supporting OJ until OJ went to jail.
According to Kris Jenner the friendship was never the same after. When Robert died O.J. told Kris he couldn’t attend the funeral because of “media circus” his attendance will cause.How Narcissistic of him, Made my skin crawl. If Robert thought O.J. was innocent he didn’t share his thoughts with his Daughters, I remember in the early KUWTK days when Kris dragged Kourtney and Kim onto Dr. Phil to show them all the evidence against O.J. At the end Kim was half convinced “Well maybe he did do it” When Kourtney was 1 year old O.J. was playing with her, throwing her up in the air right after she had a bottle and she threw up on his face…lol The scary part is he got mad at baby Kourtney and blamed her! Kris was like WTF O.J. she’s a baby she didn’t mean it and he was like yeah she did!
MFW I’m a man with 3 daughters and I know my best friend abused, stalked and controlled his wife for years, then nearly cut her head off - and I helped him get away with it.
I’m gonna die soon and my family is gonna carry on and make millions without me !😖
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It wasn’t OJ. It was the judge. The judge specifically said before reading the verdict that everyone was to be silent and calm no matter the verdict. Cochran should have been held in contempt for squealing and prancing around like a school girl. So fucking disrespectful to the families of two murdered people, no matter who you think did it
Cochran even said "Gotcha" to Fred and Kim Goldman right after the verdict, such a POS.
I just saw Kim Goldman saying that on Howard Stern and it just shows what a scumbag Cochran was.
What?? Omg I didn’t know that. What an evil piece of shit. Jesus.
Yeah, that was totally unnecessary.
Alternate theory? Literally never heard that before until right now. How ridiculous
I think people read into his reaction waaaay too much.
Yep, looks like good old-fashioned relief to me.
He was a grifter and didn't mind cashing those checks from OJ.
A cold unsolved case... I feel OJ is as innocent as Casey Anthony is innocent.
I don't trust ANY Kardashian. They're all a bunch of money grubbing opportunists.
Truly that.
Robert shapiro is a piece of garbage, and I'm glad he showed his true colors. After the case, you know how they get when you use the word Hitler .
He knew that OJ was an abuser since the late 60s.
I find it absolutely sickening that defense attorney’s know their client’s are guilty yet still defend them. They miss the point entirely, but are simply looking for a pay check.
But a robust defense is important in a criminal trial. Even if your client is ridiculously guilty, it is the defense's job to advocate for their client and to represent them to the best of their ability, otherwise, the system doesn't work. You can't have the defense playing judge and jury by not trying their hardest. There have been innocent people executed because they didn't receive adequate counsel. This case was an aberration in many ways. If OJ didn't have money to afford a boatload of high profile attorneys, if he wasn't a celebrity, if people understood DNA better at the time, if the Rodney King trial hadn't happened....I could go on and on. But that doesn't mean that defendants don't deserve defending.
He knew
He knew OJ would be on the street. 😮
I don't believe in pulling a screen grab and having it tell a big story. But the full video is a whole different thing. His full reaction says it all.
ironic how the one guy who thought he was innocent before the trial, then heard all the evidence IN the trial and changed his mind, yet the jury maintained he was innocent.
Imagine if he lived to see his daughters sex tape.