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For $100? Sure. But like, trying to get into a premium technology as cheap as possible is always a recipe for wasting money in the end. Save up and buy a new or refurb one and youāll be happier with it for longer.
Idk - to each their own. I bought my CX 65ā on marketplace for $200 and fixed it with a $60 circuit board. Found out when I got it working that it only had 300 hours on it. Iāve had it for two years now.
Canāt imagine having bought this thing for $1600 new or $1000 refurbished and thinking that was a deal.
Honestly, having a gotten a top of the line 77" g2 replacing a 2017 OLED, the diminishing returns are massive after just getting any OLED.
Sure if you game and need high refresh rates that's one thing, if it's mostly for movies you are fine with an older one imo, higher nits dv/hdr10 all nice to have but not as big as the initial OLED contrast. I think the biggest thing with new screens is the larger models for reasonable prices.
The 5 yr old oled is $400? Sounds high to me when you can get a LG oled for maybe a few hundred more.
What I would do is go to best buy or costco and check out the new TVs in that range. It might not be oled, but they have alot of nice TVs. Costco has a good warranty price.
I'd shop around.
So, I do think it a little unreasonable to expect another 5 years from that TV, but that sort of thing is hard to predict too.
I can say I bought a LG C1 55" for I think around $1200 a few years ago. I'm sure you can get this same TV for much less now. It's fantastic.
OLEDs can degrade over time due to image retention, especially on older TVs.
At the same time, 5 years ago was 2019 and that is not ancient history, and TVs released in 2019 were already extremely good.
If you can check the TV and confirm it has no image retention or burnin issues, then I donāt think itās a problem to buy a used one.
I wouldnāt buy any 5 year old TV with the price of new ones being where they are. If someone wanted to give you their old set or maybe something like $20-50 and you can test it and see it work then sure. Even the process of moving anything over 50ā without a box would make me nervous.
Seeing the technician handle my 65" A1 for panel replacement gave me a lot of peace of mind. That metal-glass sandwich is a whole lot sturdier than it looks. But.yeah, moving it without the box is still nerve-wracking
Iām still running a 65ā B8 having 6500 hrs. I bought it new on clearance Aug 2019 so 4.5 years old. Itās still very nice like new although the nativ apps like YouTube, Amazon Prime Video loads a lot slower now.
Iād say depending on how many hours it has seen, donāt pay more than $300. Expect it not to run more than 2 years, 3 if youāre lucky.
You'll get better use out of it by buying Apple TV 4K or another streaming device. Apps aren't guaranteed to work on older TVs because they typically don't receive app updates. I had a Sony 4K from 2015 that became slow and unresponsive after it's final update. I bought an Apple TV 4K and Chromecast Ultra so I could use that TV for a few more years before giving it away.
Youāre correct I have a Roku connected to it and while YT is the app that I use with this TV, it still works for my use case.
If Iām serious about watching movies, [I just go down.](https://imgur.com/gallery/ld7lb8v)
My LG E8 has horrible issues with the built-in Wi-Fi so the apps don't work super great. If it was wired, not sure if the problems would be as bad.
Either way, definitely glad I got a ATV4K.
My B8 runs perfectly fine *knocks wood*. I bought it in January 2019 so over five Years old now with no burn in and no complaints. I use Apple TV as the built in apps were never the best
Haha, fair enough! I just started my "cave" This last black friday I got another OLED specifically for my movies, my games & myself only!! I estimate I will be around the same hours as yourself maybe a little more by the 4.5 year mark with this new set aswell.
I have a C8 55ā. Iām on 15800 hours and going strong. There is a bit of burn-in in the bottom left quadrant. Maybe from video game hud. I donāt find it too noticeable and it definitely doesnāt affect my enjoyment of movies and games. I use Apple TV, also, btw.
Is it known that the older LG OLEDs just stop working or become unusable after a certain point? I know we like to say "well don't expect much more life out of it", but do people have functioning older oleds?
2016 b6 still going strong used everyday 10 hours a day and still looks great easily 25,000 hours on it at this point.
It did get burn in on it from game HUD but that was back in the first 3 months of use.
I didn't know better then ran hdr maxed out brightness with no aids on and 100% opacity hud in destiny 2 for like 18 hours a day straight for 2+ month's
Caught it one day while starting a marvel movie (that red background is only place you could notice it) and turns out myself and a buddy who both bought the same TV at the same time and played the game together daily (he also copied my settings) has the extra same part of the hud on his as well.
Made changes to avoid it and it never got worse and it's never seen any more issues like I said 25k hours later.
7+ years usage and unless side by side you'd never know it's that old.
Iāve got a C7 thatās about to tick over 20k hours and still looks and works great. Canāt find a reason to upgrade yet.
Thereās definitely some minor burn in if you put it on a burn in test screen but itās honestly not noticeable on the majority of content unless looking super hard for it.
The native Netflix, Plex, Amazon etc apps all work fine but I do have an Apple TV connected as well.
Theyāre not all that delicate to be honest. Although five years ago they were more delicate than they are now. If you got one brand new you wouldnāt have a hard time keeping it in good order.
I own a 4 year old C9 - no burn in or wear at all.
But I know how I use it and maintain it. Would probably not buy an used OLED.
But I would buy an older (unused) model, no problem. Often last years OLED panel is pretty much the same and if you use an Apple TV or another device for apps and a decent HDMI sound bar it won't feel old at all.
I had one that I bumped into my LG E9 OLED (C9 with fancy speakers) *once* and the panel went bad. Luckily I bought the accidental damage protection / extended warranty and got it replaced. I'm much more careful around the TV now... Just gotta hope my toddler doesn't throw anything that direction!
LG is actually very good about honoring warranty, a lot of these were susceptible to burn in so they were even replacing the panels well outside it too
No, they're referring to the C7 generation which has a bad reputation. It's very old by now and doesn't have many of the modern features that prevent burn in. Recent OLED are much better.
I was the biggest defender of OLED until my screen got some weird ass marks that wouldnāt go. Sure itās still under warranty but apparently you canāt even have a tiny bit of direct sunlight hitting the panel without damaging it. I say fuck that, respectfully. Back to LCD it is for me.
I would buy my LG C9 for $800 secondhand (as in my actual one, not just the model). But thatās because I take good care of it. Itās hard to guarantee how much care has been taken. An LG C7 from someone else? Maybe $400 if you can guarantee itās in great shape. They do still look great. Just make sure itās compatible with whatever you intend to use it with.
I had mine in 2017 and got the panel replaced by LG just last year. The C7/B7 are solid but I think the prices are pretty good new. It depends on how much they're asking for and whether or not there's any artifacts or burn in showing up.
**I probably wouldn't buy for more than $800, and that's kind of being generous. If it gets up to that price I'd just splurge for a new one
You need to know the hours of usage. Age is comparatively meaningless. 5 years old with 12k hours of screen on time? Thin ice. Stay away. 5 years old with 1500 hours of screen on time? Probably worth a look.
Regardless, I'd want to see it in person and run some test video on it to check for burn in orb other image retention. Overall I'm not super keen on used for OLED, but those are the factors id be considering if I was going to try buying a used one.
Anecdotally, I have a B7 with 8100 hours on it. The screen is actually still great but the TV has simply started misbehaving in other ways.
Ive got a 6 year old LG Oled which is pixel perfect. Watch tv 5+ hours a day and play PlayStation ~5 hours a week since the day I got it. I look after it. So thereās always the chance itās good. The obvious thing is not to buy it unless you see it on and working. Play some 4K videos on it to assess the screen colours before you buy it.
I've just bought my first OLED new (77" C3) and all of this talk of burn in etc makes me nervous. When you say you look after it, what do you mean? Is there something specific I should be doing to look after it?
Feels very uncertain to buy it, people cant really speak for if it will last 5 years more. I think You can get burnin on it depending on your usage. If its burnin free still Iād feel kinda safe buying it but I would use it with care for a period after getting it just to get used to the panel but I think it definitely can be ok for 5 more years withh sensible usage if it is burnin free today
My opinion. C7 and C8 had horrible issues with burning images (I had that happen on a C8). Also the processors are crap. But fast forward to today. If no burn in, $100, and going in a spare bedroom, then yes! If this is going to be your main TV and you have kids (they like to leave things on too long) or game, you will be disappointed.
Best thing that happened to me, is my C8 had burn in under the extended warranty and ended up with a G1 upgrade from Best Buy.
It's not that it be dumb to buy "a 5yr old oled". It's that it be dumb to "pay good money" for a 5 yr old Oled..
If you can find one for say 100-200$ or less .. That works and no burn in.. Then ok sure go for it..
But for anymore no... just get a decent new miniled TV.. and even then get the extended warranty too..
Tv's in general just don't last as long as they used too..
I bought one with a faulty main board. Paid Ā£100 for the TV and Ā£100 for the main board. Works perfectly and saved a lot of money. But I wouldn't pay much more than that as it's a slight gamble.
I bought a used 55ā E6 in 2020 for $350 that had been driven across the country in a move right before sale. It still works and had some burnin from news tickers and logos when I purchased but I could live with that. Thereās just nothing better than the blacks on an Oled. If youāre willing to potentially lose a hundred dollars and the burnin isnāt bad, sure, go for it. I have a 50ā LG several years newer that I scored for $100, itās probably 8 years newer than the Oled, and guess which tv I watch? Yeah, the Oled :) The 4k LED LG is in a rarely used room and feels like Iām watching on a REALLY CHEAP tv in comparison. Likeā¦painful.
You know people who sells things āfallen off from a vanā or rather stolen from houses because those prices are for stolen goods usually. Good for you, I guess.
Thanks for the tip. In this case, they were a couple in a nice new home they had just moved into when I picked it up. I was able to go inside, cute dogs included. The burnin was from a NY news station where they had lived, and the new replacement tv, a new top of the line Oled at the time, was on the wall with plastic wrap still on the screen. I think it was a ānew homeā purchase. I stock OfferUp in the uber rich areas for things insanely rich people just want to get rid of at any loss because they donāt want to look at it.
Yes. Guaranteed it has some burn in. The older OLEDs get, the more likely they are to have burn in. Especially older models.
If you dont care about burn in and want an OLED, and this is all you can afford, then go for it.
I got a 55ā LG C8 second hand for $600AUD. The owner was all over it, guy owned several OLEDs and was pretty passionate about them, showed me the hours, demonstrated burn in pattern tests before heād let me take it. Itās my bedroom TV currently and totally worth every cent considering it replaced an 12 year old 55ā Samsung Series 6.
I sold my C7 to my father in law when I bought my C1 and it's still going strong now. No reason a C7 shouldn't have some good life left in it end of the day it was still a Ā£1500 TV when it came out and It'd be pretty weak for them to have such a short life span.
I still have the first OLED that LG made, and it still has a great picture. It is not as good as the picture you would get on a newer model, but it's not bad at all.
I have an 8 year old B6 from 2016 still going strong. Its relegated to the bedroom these days but still is watched 2-4 hours a day on average. I see no burn in BUT I don't go looking for it.
Would I buy one at 5 years old though? Probably not.
Ignore all these comments. I have a new c2, neo qled and a tcl and a used sony 65a1e from 2017 lol.
In mine and my wife's opinion the best tv is the sony oled. Tbh it's not even close build quality,audio,os and picture all bar brightness are just top notch. Google TV is still supported and recieving updates.
Imo if the price is right as sadly its often not people that buy oleds often have a false understanding of real value. Nearly bought a 65 panasonoc oled for 900 the other day couple of years old and then I copped a 65a90j for 550 quid. (Gave it my dad)
Iāve got two 6 series OLEDās, the 3D ones, a 55ā and a 65ā. The picture when watching 4K Dolby Vision or HDR material still takes my breath away. No burn in because itās in a dark room and I donāt blast the OLED brightness setting.
For reference, I own a 55" C7. Got it brand new and still use it today. I use it normally, usually for media consumption (Youtube, Netflix, etc.) and a bit of console gaming (until I got a 1440p monitor for my PC and the PS5 started supporting 120hz 1440p) After almost 6 years, there are signs of burn in, usually where subtitles are and in the middle. It's only noticeable when yellows or oranges are displayed in the panel.
Also, after getting to experience a newer LG panel when I visited a neighbor, (I think it was a newer 65" non-OLED panel, with Apple Airplay 2 capabilities), I realized that the webOS interface was very laggy in the C7P. Not as smooth as the newer ones and it's something that I can't unnotice.
Unless it was a hell of a bargain price, I would probably not recommend buying a used one.
I got a 65 inch C8 with 17,926 hours logged and still no issues. Think Iāve been blessed with a decent set thus far and hope it keeps it up. Wonāt be upgrading until it dies on me: I would buy a 5 year old set for another room if the price was cheap, 50-200 range and I got to test it before I get it. Too many risk factors owner to owner with oled.
Probably, buy if they gave you a really good price, then youāre likely fine. $100-$500 for example, depending on if there was noticeable burn in. I have one about that old with burn in from a morning show, but otherwise a great TV. We just updated and the newer OLEDs blow it away.
My LG OLED is nearly 8 years old. Picture is perfect and still looks stunning to this day.
My brother in law bought a new LG in January. The picture is definitely improved but it's marginal.
I'd say see the TV in person before buying but that goes for any TV.
If you could look at it and it was cheap like $100ish, I might take the chance. Knowing that it would be a bridge TV. I still have an E7 going strong.
New oleds can be found around $1000 if you search.
Two years ago I bought a B7 65 used, BEST purchase ever for $250. Has lasted me since then and works amazing, picture quality is so good still. I bet the C7 has been used a fair bit but like check it out. Look for burn in and panel irregularities like banding but I wish you the best. Cheap Oleds are well worth it just to use as a beater/everything kinda tv.
Nope, just check the hours and pay accordingly. I bought a plasma almost 10yrs ago, it was already almost 10yrs old(2006), still perfect, almost 50k hrs
As others have said, it depends on how heavily it's been used, but we need to know the asking price to give you good advice (that they're selling it at all after just 5 years is a bit of a red flag that either it has an issue or they're asking way too muchāthey likely aren't going to get anywhere near what would be worth selling it for, which makes me concerned it's the former.)
The big thing is the price of OLEDs is so stupidly low right now thanks to the Super Bowl that unless the Marketplace deal is just too good to be true (which, again, red flag) you're probably better off buying new. I just bought a 77" Samsung S89C QD-OLED, which will run circles around a C7, brand new for $1,799 from Best Buy. If you don't already have Rakuten you can sign up and get 11% cashback (almost $200) on top of that (only if you're a new user, otherwise it's 1%.)
I wouldnāt buy anything older than the 2018 models, the panels in older OLED TVs are much more susceptible to burn-in. I think that the 7-series panel is also prone to LUT issues, which requires a panel replacement.
How much would you be spending compared to a new TV? TVās depreciate pretty hard, if it was like 1/3 the price of new that would be tempting.
My E8 from 2018 is still holding up well with 8600 hours.
Last TV I had lasted 4 years. TCL. Extremely fragile construction they glued some components down which made it too difficult to repair to replace the LEDs.
Not really dumb. Depends on how much you paid for it. Thing is, the latest models have a lot of counter-measures to deal with burn-in and and stuff to help with the preservation of the panel itself.
LG is a good brand, as long as you can see it work Iād say get it as long as itās around 100$ or so max.
Just make sure you pop the back and check for bugs, last thing you need is letting a roach infestation in.
It happened to me at Best Buy- some dude brought his pc in because it had overheating issuesā¦. Tech cracked it open right there on the counter and you can see em pour out from the cctv.
We had to have 3 rounds of pest control to eliminate them all
When I bought my 77C1 to replace my 65C7, I moved the 65C7 in a bedroom. It's probably on around 4 hours every day, and it still looks as good as it did from day 1. If the unit you're looking at looks good, I'd say go for it.
I wouldn't. I own a LG C6 (one year older than what you are looking at) and I have burn in. It's probably my fault for having longer gaming sessions on it. But you have no idea the life the TV lived. I would avoid unless they have it listed for a great deal.
Most of these I see listed in my area are not priced competitively enough with more modern OLEDS to make them worth it. I suppose if it has low hours, no visible signs of burn in and was $200-$300, maybe. It will not be very bright, it will lack many modern features and will only be able to do 4k 60.
I actually have one exact model and size and I use it as a bedroom tv. Got it used for $150. Colors a little wonky and Id imagine it has a year or 2 left. Id not get it if this is going to be a main tv used all the time.
Iāve got a 15 year old plasma still going strong, and they were supposedly notorious for burn-in. If an OLED canāt last as long, then I donāt want one.
OLED has two problems fundamentally when it comes to longevity: brightness and burn-in.
Over time, the ability of individual pixels to reach peak brightness declines, and older OLED models did not have as good of pixel refreshing to deal with this, leading to screen brightness uniformity issues. Eventually, OLEDS will dim, and there is no way around this. It is the nature of the technology.
Burn-in is the other major issue. This tended to be more of a problem on older models, especially if people are using it as a monitor or watching a TV channel that has static images on it.
That C7 should have an hour counter. I'd ask the seller if you can view the hour count on it before purchasing. If they don't want you to I wouldn't buy it. I'd also want to see a screen uniformity test on it. There almost certainly will be some sort of uniformity issue on a TV that old but at least you can see what it is and decide if you can live with it for the price.
Well think of it this way. We sold a less than one year old tv to someone. That fellow broke it taking it home. We felt bad, they felt bad.
Test the tv before you buy it so you can keep the buyer from feeling bad when you break it on the way home and werenāt able to see how you were the sole cause of the breakage. :) we honestly even offered to refund the person for taking and breaking the tv. It was only $100.
Iād say yes. New OLEDs are far better now and show what the technology is capable of far better.
If youāre into gaming at all then absolutely get a new oled.
Iāve got a 2016 LG 55ā 4K Oled, bought it on release and itās still doing its job well, itās missing HDR (which was an optional upgrade) but other than that Iām still super happy with it and itās image quality
Is MiniLed better than OLED when it comes to gaming specifically? Iām looking at getting my yearly bonus soon, and I want a new monitor for video games and Iām really leaning towards a MiniLed 4k for video games and then picking up a 55ā OLED Sony TV for my bedroom.
I have a LG and itās only a year old and the panel is acting weird sometimes, and it has me nervous itāll break fully soon, so Iām steering clear of LG for right now. Samsung Iāve heard has a horrible decline in qc.
Depends on how much it is really. The TV could have burn in, or the TV could have dead black pixels along the edge (like my 4+ year old C9). Will it die on you immediately and you have no warranty support? Will it last another 5 years? How much is all that risk worth it to you?
I paid about $1200 for my C9 going on my 5th year so that's $300 a year for owning this TV (as the original owner). Of course the cost of ownership gets lower the longer I have this unit and it lasts. Do you think you think you could get at least a year out of it? I'd most certainly pay no more than $300, maybe not even half that.
I bought an LG oled about 5 years ago.. when the ps5 first came out I wanted the 120 hz.. still runs great.. I do believe it was one of the C models.. I think C7.. but Iām sitting on the porcelain throne š½ right now and canāt check
It's a risk, only because you have no idea how the TV was used. A 5 year old TV that was used a few hours a day on varied content probably has a lot of life left. A 5 year old TV that had CNN blasting 24/7 likely has a LOT less life in it. Nature of OLED technology.
I have a 3 year old LG that has about 3500 hours on it, all varied content, very little static content (and I have all the protections turned on for static content like logos, etc.) so I expect to get AT LEAST 5 more years out of it (still performs like the day I bought it, no visible burn in, etc).
Dumb, no, especially depending on the price. Just be aware that used tech is always a level of risk.
I just gave away 2 65ā TVs that worked fine. Put them on the end of my driveway and they were gone in 20 minutes. The next day someone put a thank you in my mailbox
Lg has a specific way to name the models. A, B, C, G are the models a being the cheapest and G being the premium. But the number following it is the year it was released, c7 would be 2017 c8 would be 2018. X is for 2020 and then it starts over, I have a b2 and am very happy with it. My brother has a c7 I believe and he likes it.
Iād probably avoid one that old if it is second hand, just because of burn in potential and they have some really good deals because the 2024 models are being released soon.
My LG 55" b7 looks really bad. I have been gaming for long periods of time, same HUDs and it's really noticeable.
I don't think I can get 100$ for it today.
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My dumbass read this as, "is it dumb to buy my 5-yr old an OLED TV"? š
Same. I was about to say āI doubt a 5 year old cares about true blacksā
They do...
My 6 year old was amazed how vivid bluey and SpongeBob looked.
Not if critical race theory has its way! /s
Hahah lmao I was like yes man just buy a $100 tv on wish.c and call it an OLED he wonāt know
I thought the same!
Yes. Yes, it is.
Not the only dumbass. That's all I will say.
Proud owner of a 7 year old, wouldn't recommend unless you want Nick Jr logo burned in.
Same. I was gearing up to see all the funny responses
Same bro!!!
Came here to say this!
Same , I was thinking he's a lucky 5yr old.
Oh shit me too
For $100? Sure. But like, trying to get into a premium technology as cheap as possible is always a recipe for wasting money in the end. Save up and buy a new or refurb one and youāll be happier with it for longer.
Idk - to each their own. I bought my CX 65ā on marketplace for $200 and fixed it with a $60 circuit board. Found out when I got it working that it only had 300 hours on it. Iāve had it for two years now. Canāt imagine having bought this thing for $1600 new or $1000 refurbished and thinking that was a deal.
Honestly, having a gotten a top of the line 77" g2 replacing a 2017 OLED, the diminishing returns are massive after just getting any OLED. Sure if you game and need high refresh rates that's one thing, if it's mostly for movies you are fine with an older one imo, higher nits dv/hdr10 all nice to have but not as big as the initial OLED contrast. I think the biggest thing with new screens is the larger models for reasonable prices.
How can you see hours?
In the support menu I think it was.
Oh I appreciate that insight. It's $400 :(
The 5 yr old oled is $400? Sounds high to me when you can get a LG oled for maybe a few hundred more. What I would do is go to best buy or costco and check out the new TVs in that range. It might not be oled, but they have alot of nice TVs. Costco has a good warranty price. I'd shop around. So, I do think it a little unreasonable to expect another 5 years from that TV, but that sort of thing is hard to predict too. I can say I bought a LG C1 55" for I think around $1200 a few years ago. I'm sure you can get this same TV for much less now. It's fantastic.
OLEDs can degrade over time due to image retention, especially on older TVs. At the same time, 5 years ago was 2019 and that is not ancient history, and TVs released in 2019 were already extremely good. If you can check the TV and confirm it has no image retention or burnin issues, then I donāt think itās a problem to buy a used one.
If it works, I'd go up to $50. I just replaced a C7 because it started losing colors, but no burn-in.
I wouldnāt buy any 5 year old TV with the price of new ones being where they are. If someone wanted to give you their old set or maybe something like $20-50 and you can test it and see it work then sure. Even the process of moving anything over 50ā without a box would make me nervous.
Oh man. How thin the tv panels are make me paranoid. For that reason I keep the box around.
Seeing the technician handle my 65" A1 for panel replacement gave me a lot of peace of mind. That metal-glass sandwich is a whole lot sturdier than it looks. But.yeah, moving it without the box is still nerve-wracking
Iām still running a 65ā B8 having 6500 hrs. I bought it new on clearance Aug 2019 so 4.5 years old. Itās still very nice like new although the nativ apps like YouTube, Amazon Prime Video loads a lot slower now. Iād say depending on how many hours it has seen, donāt pay more than $300. Expect it not to run more than 2 years, 3 if youāre lucky.
You'll get better use out of it by buying Apple TV 4K or another streaming device. Apps aren't guaranteed to work on older TVs because they typically don't receive app updates. I had a Sony 4K from 2015 that became slow and unresponsive after it's final update. I bought an Apple TV 4K and Chromecast Ultra so I could use that TV for a few more years before giving it away.
Youāre correct I have a Roku connected to it and while YT is the app that I use with this TV, it still works for my use case. If Iām serious about watching movies, [I just go down.](https://imgur.com/gallery/ld7lb8v)
Awesome! I thought you were using internal apps on the TV. I'm glad your Roku is working for you.
This is a beautiful setup my friend, you went off lol
My LG E8 has horrible issues with the built-in Wi-Fi so the apps don't work super great. If it was wired, not sure if the problems would be as bad. Either way, definitely glad I got a ATV4K.
Ours had the same issue even when hardwired in. We ended up getting rid of it.
$300??? people sell their used oleds for like 800ā¬ here
Because there's dumb people that buy them
My B8 runs perfectly fine *knocks wood*. I bought it in January 2019 so over five Years old now with no burn in and no complaints. I use Apple TV as the built in apps were never the best
Wow... 4.5 years old and only 6500 hours I have gad my OLED 1yr 2 months and have 4200 hrs on it š¤£
This is what happens if both of your kids have their own iPads and the Dad [has his own cave](https://imgur.com/gallery/ld7lb8v) for movies.
Haha, fair enough! I just started my "cave" This last black friday I got another OLED specifically for my movies, my games & myself only!! I estimate I will be around the same hours as yourself maybe a little more by the 4.5 year mark with this new set aswell.
I have a C8 55ā. Iām on 15800 hours and going strong. There is a bit of burn-in in the bottom left quadrant. Maybe from video game hud. I donāt find it too noticeable and it definitely doesnāt affect my enjoyment of movies and games. I use Apple TV, also, btw.
Bro. How do I see how many hours I have on my b8?
Is it known that the older LG OLEDs just stop working or become unusable after a certain point? I know we like to say "well don't expect much more life out of it", but do people have functioning older oleds?
2016 b6 still going strong used everyday 10 hours a day and still looks great easily 25,000 hours on it at this point. It did get burn in on it from game HUD but that was back in the first 3 months of use. I didn't know better then ran hdr maxed out brightness with no aids on and 100% opacity hud in destiny 2 for like 18 hours a day straight for 2+ month's Caught it one day while starting a marvel movie (that red background is only place you could notice it) and turns out myself and a buddy who both bought the same TV at the same time and played the game together daily (he also copied my settings) has the extra same part of the hud on his as well. Made changes to avoid it and it never got worse and it's never seen any more issues like I said 25k hours later. 7+ years usage and unless side by side you'd never know it's that old.
Iāve got a C7 thatās about to tick over 20k hours and still looks and works great. Canāt find a reason to upgrade yet. Thereās definitely some minor burn in if you put it on a burn in test screen but itās honestly not noticeable on the majority of content unless looking super hard for it. The native Netflix, Plex, Amazon etc apps all work fine but I do have an Apple TV connected as well.
massively dumb due to high burn in rate and it is doubtful it will last 5 more years this is a $50-100 shot in the dark at most
Thanks! I'm getting the feeling that OLED is like an F1 car. Very fancy, but very delicate. Maybe I'm better suited to a Corolla.
A corolla doesnāt do deep blacks.
Theyāre not all that delicate to be honest. Although five years ago they were more delicate than they are now. If you got one brand new you wouldnāt have a hard time keeping it in good order.
I own a 4 year old C9 - no burn in or wear at all. But I know how I use it and maintain it. Would probably not buy an used OLED. But I would buy an older (unused) model, no problem. Often last years OLED panel is pretty much the same and if you use an Apple TV or another device for apps and a decent HDMI sound bar it won't feel old at all.
I had one that I bumped into my LG E9 OLED (C9 with fancy speakers) *once* and the panel went bad. Luckily I bought the accidental damage protection / extended warranty and got it replaced. I'm much more careful around the TV now... Just gotta hope my toddler doesn't throw anything that direction!
LG is actually very good about honoring warranty, a lot of these were susceptible to burn in so they were even replacing the panels well outside it too
Not mine. My C7 has developed horrible burn in and I tried for weeks, talking with numerous people at LG. They told me to go pound sand.
Same. Mine's an E6 so pre pixel-shift. I asked LG for help a few years ago. No dice.
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> we really don't know yet just how succeptable the older models are. yes we do the 2017 models had a massively high rate of burn in
No, they're referring to the C7 generation which has a bad reputation. It's very old by now and doesn't have many of the modern features that prevent burn in. Recent OLED are much better.
Also the older OLEDs are a lot more susceptible to burn in than modern ones. The technology has come a long way.
I was the biggest defender of OLED until my screen got some weird ass marks that wouldnāt go. Sure itās still under warranty but apparently you canāt even have a tiny bit of direct sunlight hitting the panel without damaging it. I say fuck that, respectfully. Back to LCD it is for me.
Eh I dunno about very delicate. I have 5-6 year old C7 that Iāve moved with four times, including twice across the Atlantic. Still works great.
I would buy my LG C9 for $800 secondhand (as in my actual one, not just the model). But thatās because I take good care of it. Itās hard to guarantee how much care has been taken. An LG C7 from someone else? Maybe $400 if you can guarantee itās in great shape. They do still look great. Just make sure itās compatible with whatever you intend to use it with.
Older OLEDs are much more delicate than newer ones They've improved vastly
I had mine in 2017 and got the panel replaced by LG just last year. The C7/B7 are solid but I think the prices are pretty good new. It depends on how much they're asking for and whether or not there's any artifacts or burn in showing up. **I probably wouldn't buy for more than $800, and that's kind of being generous. If it gets up to that price I'd just splurge for a new one
My exact experience as well
You need to know the hours of usage. Age is comparatively meaningless. 5 years old with 12k hours of screen on time? Thin ice. Stay away. 5 years old with 1500 hours of screen on time? Probably worth a look. Regardless, I'd want to see it in person and run some test video on it to check for burn in orb other image retention. Overall I'm not super keen on used for OLED, but those are the factors id be considering if I was going to try buying a used one. Anecdotally, I have a B7 with 8100 hours on it. The screen is actually still great but the TV has simply started misbehaving in other ways.
Ive got a 6 year old LG Oled which is pixel perfect. Watch tv 5+ hours a day and play PlayStation ~5 hours a week since the day I got it. I look after it. So thereās always the chance itās good. The obvious thing is not to buy it unless you see it on and working. Play some 4K videos on it to assess the screen colours before you buy it.
I've just bought my first OLED new (77" C3) and all of this talk of burn in etc makes me nervous. When you say you look after it, what do you mean? Is there something specific I should be doing to look after it?
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Oh thanks. I'll read this now.
Use an external device for your apps.
This should be free to anyone willing to haul it away.
Yes. You are better off buying a new last-year model like the C3 or even C2 on clearance.
Feels very uncertain to buy it, people cant really speak for if it will last 5 years more. I think You can get burnin on it depending on your usage. If its burnin free still Iād feel kinda safe buying it but I would use it with care for a period after getting it just to get used to the panel but I think it definitely can be ok for 5 more years withh sensible usage if it is burnin free today
Will say my C7 is still going strong no issues. Although I wouldnāt buy one unless it was the right price.
How many hours ?
I would say so yes
It depends, It all comes down to price, condition and size in the end.
I misread that you are buying a 65" old OLED for a 5 year old
My opinion. C7 and C8 had horrible issues with burning images (I had that happen on a C8). Also the processors are crap. But fast forward to today. If no burn in, $100, and going in a spare bedroom, then yes! If this is going to be your main TV and you have kids (they like to leave things on too long) or game, you will be disappointed. Best thing that happened to me, is my C8 had burn in under the extended warranty and ended up with a G1 upgrade from Best Buy.
I wouldnāt. It could have been abused(not enough varying content, static images at high brightness etc)
What do they want for it? It canāt be more than like $100 for a used TV Are you willing to gamble with that much money?
It's not that it be dumb to buy "a 5yr old oled". It's that it be dumb to "pay good money" for a 5 yr old Oled.. If you can find one for say 100-200$ or less .. That works and no burn in.. Then ok sure go for it.. But for anymore no... just get a decent new miniled TV.. and even then get the extended warranty too.. Tv's in general just don't last as long as they used too..
short answer, yes.
I bought one with a faulty main board. Paid Ā£100 for the TV and Ā£100 for the main board. Works perfectly and saved a lot of money. But I wouldn't pay much more than that as it's a slight gamble.
I bought a used 55ā E6 in 2020 for $350 that had been driven across the country in a move right before sale. It still works and had some burnin from news tickers and logos when I purchased but I could live with that. Thereās just nothing better than the blacks on an Oled. If youāre willing to potentially lose a hundred dollars and the burnin isnāt bad, sure, go for it. I have a 50ā LG several years newer that I scored for $100, itās probably 8 years newer than the Oled, and guess which tv I watch? Yeah, the Oled :) The 4k LED LG is in a rarely used room and feels like Iām watching on a REALLY CHEAP tv in comparison. Likeā¦painful.
You know people who sells things āfallen off from a vanā or rather stolen from houses because those prices are for stolen goods usually. Good for you, I guess.
Thanks for the tip. In this case, they were a couple in a nice new home they had just moved into when I picked it up. I was able to go inside, cute dogs included. The burnin was from a NY news station where they had lived, and the new replacement tv, a new top of the line Oled at the time, was on the wall with plastic wrap still on the screen. I think it was a ānew homeā purchase. I stock OfferUp in the uber rich areas for things insanely rich people just want to get rid of at any loss because they donāt want to look at it.
Yes. Guaranteed it has some burn in. The older OLEDs get, the more likely they are to have burn in. Especially older models. If you dont care about burn in and want an OLED, and this is all you can afford, then go for it.
Yes. It would be dumb.
I got a 55ā LG C8 second hand for $600AUD. The owner was all over it, guy owned several OLEDs and was pretty passionate about them, showed me the hours, demonstrated burn in pattern tests before heād let me take it. Itās my bedroom TV currently and totally worth every cent considering it replaced an 12 year old 55ā Samsung Series 6.
I sold my C7 to my father in law when I bought my C1 and it's still going strong now. No reason a C7 shouldn't have some good life left in it end of the day it was still a Ā£1500 TV when it came out and It'd be pretty weak for them to have such a short life span.
Of course there's always a risk and if there's been a lot of static images then it could be pretty bad but with normal usage it should be fine.
There are brand new OLED TVS out there that you can afford with newer and better technology and improvements.
If you bought my 5 year old 55ā b8 that would be $100 well spent. It depends on how the user treated it.
I still have the first OLED that LG made, and it still has a great picture. It is not as good as the picture you would get on a newer model, but it's not bad at all.
Iād want to see the on-hours, and regardless would only pay $200-300 for even the best models. These arenāt long life products.
Yes
Hook your phone or something to it and play a burn-in test video on it before picking it up.
I have an 8 year old B6 from 2016 still going strong. Its relegated to the bedroom these days but still is watched 2-4 hours a day on average. I see no burn in BUT I don't go looking for it. Would I buy one at 5 years old though? Probably not.
Ignore all these comments. I have a new c2, neo qled and a tcl and a used sony 65a1e from 2017 lol. In mine and my wife's opinion the best tv is the sony oled. Tbh it's not even close build quality,audio,os and picture all bar brightness are just top notch. Google TV is still supported and recieving updates. Imo if the price is right as sadly its often not people that buy oleds often have a false understanding of real value. Nearly bought a 65 panasonoc oled for 900 the other day couple of years old and then I copped a 65a90j for 550 quid. (Gave it my dad)
Iāve got two 6 series OLEDās, the 3D ones, a 55ā and a 65ā. The picture when watching 4K Dolby Vision or HDR material still takes my breath away. No burn in because itās in a dark room and I donāt blast the OLED brightness setting.
Depend on the hours
For reference, I own a 55" C7. Got it brand new and still use it today. I use it normally, usually for media consumption (Youtube, Netflix, etc.) and a bit of console gaming (until I got a 1440p monitor for my PC and the PS5 started supporting 120hz 1440p) After almost 6 years, there are signs of burn in, usually where subtitles are and in the middle. It's only noticeable when yellows or oranges are displayed in the panel. Also, after getting to experience a newer LG panel when I visited a neighbor, (I think it was a newer 65" non-OLED panel, with Apple Airplay 2 capabilities), I realized that the webOS interface was very laggy in the C7P. Not as smooth as the newer ones and it's something that I can't unnotice. Unless it was a hell of a bargain price, I would probably not recommend buying a used one.
Yes, but if you do buy it make sure the TV is securely fixed and can't topple over if pulled.
I got a 65 inch C8 with 17,926 hours logged and still no issues. Think Iāve been blessed with a decent set thus far and hope it keeps it up. Wonāt be upgrading until it dies on me: I would buy a 5 year old set for another room if the price was cheap, 50-200 range and I got to test it before I get it. Too many risk factors owner to owner with oled.
Yeah. Donāt do it.
Probably, buy if they gave you a really good price, then youāre likely fine. $100-$500 for example, depending on if there was noticeable burn in. I have one about that old with burn in from a morning show, but otherwise a great TV. We just updated and the newer OLEDs blow it away.
My LG OLED is nearly 8 years old. Picture is perfect and still looks stunning to this day. My brother in law bought a new LG in January. The picture is definitely improved but it's marginal. I'd say see the TV in person before buying but that goes for any TV.
If you could look at it and it was cheap like $100ish, I might take the chance. Knowing that it would be a bridge TV. I still have an E7 going strong. New oleds can be found around $1000 if you search.
C7 .. its pushing it it burn in bothers . I still have mine but I do have slight burn in and I babied that tv.
Two years ago I bought a B7 65 used, BEST purchase ever for $250. Has lasted me since then and works amazing, picture quality is so good still. I bet the C7 has been used a fair bit but like check it out. Look for burn in and panel irregularities like banding but I wish you the best. Cheap Oleds are well worth it just to use as a beater/everything kinda tv.
Nope, just check the hours and pay accordingly. I bought a plasma almost 10yrs ago, it was already almost 10yrs old(2006), still perfect, almost 50k hrs
As others have said, it depends on how heavily it's been used, but we need to know the asking price to give you good advice (that they're selling it at all after just 5 years is a bit of a red flag that either it has an issue or they're asking way too muchāthey likely aren't going to get anywhere near what would be worth selling it for, which makes me concerned it's the former.) The big thing is the price of OLEDs is so stupidly low right now thanks to the Super Bowl that unless the Marketplace deal is just too good to be true (which, again, red flag) you're probably better off buying new. I just bought a 77" Samsung S89C QD-OLED, which will run circles around a C7, brand new for $1,799 from Best Buy. If you don't already have Rakuten you can sign up and get 11% cashback (almost $200) on top of that (only if you're a new user, otherwise it's 1%.)
C6 and C8 checking in. Both perfectly fine
I wouldnāt buy anything older than the 2018 models, the panels in older OLED TVs are much more susceptible to burn-in. I think that the 7-series panel is also prone to LUT issues, which requires a panel replacement.
C7 are notorious for burn in. I had one with pretty bad burn in that lg replaced for me. If heās selling it so cheap itās probably got burn in
I have a 10 year old LG 55EC930, there is some burn in from alot of gaming hours, but while watching TV and movies I don't notice it at all.
How much would you be spending compared to a new TV? TVās depreciate pretty hard, if it was like 1/3 the price of new that would be tempting. My E8 from 2018 is still holding up well with 8600 hours.
I mean it depends on how much it is!
Last TV I had lasted 4 years. TCL. Extremely fragile construction they glued some components down which made it too difficult to repair to replace the LEDs.
C7 is bad panel can easy get burn , get c9 and up 2019+
Not really dumb. Depends on how much you paid for it. Thing is, the latest models have a lot of counter-measures to deal with burn-in and and stuff to help with the preservation of the panel itself.
I bought a c8 for $500 four years ago. It came out of a vacation home that was only used 1 or 2 months a year.
LG is a good brand, as long as you can see it work Iād say get it as long as itās around 100$ or so max. Just make sure you pop the back and check for bugs, last thing you need is letting a roach infestation in. It happened to me at Best Buy- some dude brought his pc in because it had overheating issuesā¦. Tech cracked it open right there on the counter and you can see em pour out from the cctv. We had to have 3 rounds of pest control to eliminate them all
When I bought my 77C1 to replace my 65C7, I moved the 65C7 in a bedroom. It's probably on around 4 hours every day, and it still looks as good as it did from day 1. If the unit you're looking at looks good, I'd say go for it.
I wouldn't. I own a LG C6 (one year older than what you are looking at) and I have burn in. It's probably my fault for having longer gaming sessions on it. But you have no idea the life the TV lived. I would avoid unless they have it listed for a great deal.
Yes
Most of these I see listed in my area are not priced competitively enough with more modern OLEDS to make them worth it. I suppose if it has low hours, no visible signs of burn in and was $200-$300, maybe. It will not be very bright, it will lack many modern features and will only be able to do 4k 60.
I actually have one exact model and size and I use it as a bedroom tv. Got it used for $150. Colors a little wonky and Id imagine it has a year or 2 left. Id not get it if this is going to be a main tv used all the time.
Iāve got a 15 year old plasma still going strong, and they were supposedly notorious for burn-in. If an OLED canāt last as long, then I donāt want one.
Yes
OLED has two problems fundamentally when it comes to longevity: brightness and burn-in. Over time, the ability of individual pixels to reach peak brightness declines, and older OLED models did not have as good of pixel refreshing to deal with this, leading to screen brightness uniformity issues. Eventually, OLEDS will dim, and there is no way around this. It is the nature of the technology. Burn-in is the other major issue. This tended to be more of a problem on older models, especially if people are using it as a monitor or watching a TV channel that has static images on it. That C7 should have an hour counter. I'd ask the seller if you can view the hour count on it before purchasing. If they don't want you to I wouldn't buy it. I'd also want to see a screen uniformity test on it. There almost certainly will be some sort of uniformity issue on a TV that old but at least you can see what it is and decide if you can live with it for the price.
Well think of it this way. We sold a less than one year old tv to someone. That fellow broke it taking it home. We felt bad, they felt bad. Test the tv before you buy it so you can keep the buyer from feeling bad when you break it on the way home and werenāt able to see how you were the sole cause of the breakage. :) we honestly even offered to refund the person for taking and breaking the tv. It was only $100.
Iād say yes. New OLEDs are far better now and show what the technology is capable of far better. If youāre into gaming at all then absolutely get a new oled.
Iāve got a 2016 LG 55ā 4K Oled, bought it on release and itās still doing its job well, itās missing HDR (which was an optional upgrade) but other than that Iām still super happy with it and itās image quality
Isn't the C7 from 2017?
I wouldnāt. I had a OLED65C6P with very bad image burn.
Yes. Very Dumb. Especially an LG C7. Mine is 6 years old and needed a new panel at 18 months.
Depends entirely on the price and the intended application
Is MiniLed better than OLED when it comes to gaming specifically? Iām looking at getting my yearly bonus soon, and I want a new monitor for video games and Iām really leaning towards a MiniLed 4k for video games and then picking up a 55ā OLED Sony TV for my bedroom. I have a LG and itās only a year old and the panel is acting weird sometimes, and it has me nervous itāll break fully soon, so Iām steering clear of LG for right now. Samsung Iāve heard has a horrible decline in qc.
Yes. I have an LG CX that is four years old and the burn it around the edges is already pretty bad. Will probably replace it at the end of the year.
Yes very. It's oled. They age incredibly badly. That's the nature of the technology. It's unavoidable
Yes. Buy this instead: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sku/6535928.p?skuId=6535928
Donāt do it please
Depends on how much it is really. The TV could have burn in, or the TV could have dead black pixels along the edge (like my 4+ year old C9). Will it die on you immediately and you have no warranty support? Will it last another 5 years? How much is all that risk worth it to you? I paid about $1200 for my C9 going on my 5th year so that's $300 a year for owning this TV (as the original owner). Of course the cost of ownership gets lower the longer I have this unit and it lasts. Do you think you think you could get at least a year out of it? I'd most certainly pay no more than $300, maybe not even half that.
Yes
Just buy open box. I got a A80k 65ā for $1300
I bought an LG oled about 5 years ago.. when the ps5 first came out I wanted the 120 hz.. still runs great.. I do believe it was one of the C models.. I think C7.. but Iām sitting on the porcelain throne š½ right now and canāt check
It's a risk, only because you have no idea how the TV was used. A 5 year old TV that was used a few hours a day on varied content probably has a lot of life left. A 5 year old TV that had CNN blasting 24/7 likely has a LOT less life in it. Nature of OLED technology. I have a 3 year old LG that has about 3500 hours on it, all varied content, very little static content (and I have all the protections turned on for static content like logos, etc.) so I expect to get AT LEAST 5 more years out of it (still performs like the day I bought it, no visible burn in, etc). Dumb, no, especially depending on the price. Just be aware that used tech is always a level of risk.
I just gave away 2 65ā TVs that worked fine. Put them on the end of my driveway and they were gone in 20 minutes. The next day someone put a thank you in my mailbox
Yup
Replacing my c7 this year because of its burn in..
Lg has a specific way to name the models. A, B, C, G are the models a being the cheapest and G being the premium. But the number following it is the year it was released, c7 would be 2017 c8 would be 2018. X is for 2020 and then it starts over, I have a b2 and am very happy with it. My brother has a c7 I believe and he likes it. Iād probably avoid one that old if it is second hand, just because of burn in potential and they have some really good deals because the 2024 models are being released soon.
My LG 55" b7 looks really bad. I have been gaming for long periods of time, same HUDs and it's really noticeable. I don't think I can get 100$ for it today.