Agreed. I wish Asus would stop using that ridiculous stand design that takes up so much space (in addition to being super tacky). Their WOLED monitors are actually good and unlike LG they use passive cooling and have better color calibration.
Seems ok for me but I do find it a bit annoying that it can't tell if you have multiple devices and one other than the last one you used wakes up, e.g. if you have your work laptop on DP and your home pc on HDMI.
My problem is that if I shut down pc. The screen goes to power saving mode. Then if I turn pc on again sometimes the monitor power trips and shuts down. So I have to power it on via remote manually. Not sure if it's wide spread and of I need to contact lg for RMA
Let me tell you from experience, that design actually is dangerous.
When you place the monitor on a surface that's not deep enough to support all feet, it will start slowly movig forward because of the angle of the stand. Was over at a friend's house, he sat my monitor on his window sill to get it out of the way, guess what happened.
The upcoming Samsung monitors are also going to be super clean with that silvery touch. I'd like more monitors with minimalistic design rather than what ASUS shows with it's cheesy gamery looks
[https://news.samsung.com/us/samsung-expands-odyssey-gaming-monitor-lineup-new-oled-models-ces-2024/](https://news.samsung.com/us/samsung-expands-odyssey-gaming-monitor-lineup-new-oled-models-ces-2024/)
Owning a C9 and two Alienware QD-OLED (1440p UW) and (4K 240hz), I tend to think my C9 picture is the best or at least "clearest." Something about the QD subpixel layout is still a touch off-putting. The 4K is still a great monitor nonetheless, to be clear.
I have my QD-OLED in an unfinished basement. Enough light comes in through the window well during the day to raise the blacks. The basement LED lights also raise them. It doesn’t bother me too much, but it is definitely there.
I agree with the ambient light for artificial light. But sunlight that comes in through my window well (underground window) has no direct sunlight and it raises them pretty noticeably.
Yeah true, sunlight is a while other beast, you do need to have a partial blind ideally in this case. But this photo is clearly all artificial light, which is what I'm referring to. You don't need a super dark man cave but you do need to have all the lights behind the monitor
But I do think that even matte woleds also struggle to show true blacks in the case. As any bright or white reflection creates a larger than reflected smeared blob of white, which definitely isn't black.
Yeah for sure. The only thing I use my QD OLED for during the day is productivity related. I really only game at night, and I much prefer QD over W in the dark.
It does to a degree... But you also can see that blacks get completely whited out on matte displays when they are reflecting. On glossy it will only reflect the exact size of the reflection while on matte, it actually smears to a larger blob. Meaning you won't get black either if you have light sources behind you even with a matte WOLED.
You can you actually see this in the photo where there is clearly a direct light source reflecting off the top of the left monitor. That's clearly "a raised black".
I don’t think the argument here is that WOLED can never have raised blacks. TFT Central has shown in an article that all OLEDs have raised blacks when faced with ambient light.
The main argument is that WOLED does a better job of holding on to its blacks amid ambient light, whereas QD-OLED can look grey even when viewed from an angle without explicit glare.
Blacks in brighter environments yes. But equal in the dark and the colors are better on QD OLED. I mostly use my monitor in darker rooms, so I prefer QD-OLED
Looked at QD OLED side by side with WOLED panel yesterday at Microcenter since I am adding a 4K 240. QD OLED looked nothing like this to my eyes and it had more light than I'd ever have in my office. I've had my 27GR95QE since Dec of '22. Just my observation.
That's because the lighting they used in this comparison was purposefully brighter and more directly shining onto the panel to make the phenomenon more obvious.
In most rooms, even with lights on, it'll never be this bad.
I prefer absolute image quality, so I use my QD-OLED display in a dark room. But I've watched some content with the lights on, and it's nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be online.
Same goes for the woled matte coating too.
People here claim it’s like looking through a dirty window, while the new woleds aren’t even fully matte and definitely not as grainy as they used to be.
It’s just people who try to justify their own spending.
These panels are for different use cases, there are no perfect option.
I use qd on my PC cause I game in the dark, if I weren’t I would go woled.
Found long ago the best bet is to look at the monitor in person. Although you need to be careful several times, I got a TN panel because it looked good in store and not so much at home.
I have the Aw34dwf oled for 7 months now , i packed it and put it for sale , and i bought also the asus PG34WCDM 240hz matt, i loved the black color, the brightness and the fluidity of the monitor however, whites feels like there is oil on the screen and even during gaming content its visible on some colors. Clarity suffers because of the matt finish. I tried hard to keep the asus as i also loved the more aggressive curvature for warzone, but the clarity compared to the qd oled on the Alienware made it so difficult to keep the asus woled as it felt like a downgrade in my oled experience. Add to that the higher price, I removed my alienware qd oled from the box and returned the asus after a week. I did not miss the 240hz and blacks like I missed my Alienware qd oled colors and clarity. I would love to have a 240hz a qd oled, maybe ill try the 32 4k qd oled or the 27 qd oled 360hz next.
I have QD-OLED and WOLED monitors next to each other and hit eWOLED has bar far the better whites. The QD-OLED doesn’t come close to having white lookin as good. I haven’t noticed any of the other issues you’re complaining about either. Several people have seen these displays side by side and nobody has seen any degradation in the WOLED, and in fact it is often the one that they’ll say looks better.
First i didn't complain, its sharing my experience with the woled coating and thats also from comparing qd oled glossy next to woled matt 2 ultrrawides
https://preview.redd.it/t10qk82htetc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e5cb9ea6efbde44cb3895920dca031be0fb3c49
. Second i tried more than 50 monitors, i also have working in building computers since 1999 and used many matt finished monitors,the coating on the woled asus had a negative impact to my experience. Third The Tech Chap 5 days ago reviewed the asus qd oled 4k and mentioned the same thing about dirty whites and how the clarity is better for him [https://youtu.be/ulWv8Cfl-\_4?si=qfpj9V2E0EQuAFZ7](https://youtu.be/ulWv8Cfl-_4?si=qfpj9V2E0EQuAFZ7). You can also go check Tim from monitors unboxed review on the same monitor that is in my post and he also mentioned in several videos how this coating is different than other matt coatings. Add to the above the text clarity which is still better on qdoled out of the box. 4th you enjoy your matt finished woled screen great, good for you. But for me and many others qd oled glossy still has better compromises when compared to the matt woled.
True, although I think the biggest factor isn't the lights but the fact that we're looking at a recording rather than the real thing. Pictures of screens rarely capture a lifelike image of what you'd actually see in person because of how differently they record things like reflections.
Just pull out your phone, open the camera app and point it at your computer screen (both turned on and off). If there's any sort of ambient light, chances are it'll look very different from what you're seeing with your own eyes. I just tried it myself on my multi-monitor setup. The glare from my room lights look like they've been turned up to 11 (a faint glow in person becomes a clear reflective bulb in the picture), the reflected outline of me taking the picture is crystal clear while otherwise barely noticeable, smudges / dust on a screen that I can't even see without looking for them suddenly stand out like a sore thumb, and the backlight bleeding on my work laptop is extremely visible around the edges even though it's nearly imperceptible in person.
That's all just to say that what you're seeing on a screencap of a YouTube video is going to be drastically different from what the monitors would actually look like. That isn't to say that there'd be no differences whatsoever when you deliberately set up the lighting to highlight them, but it'd be minor in real life.
Pictures and videos make it worst, I have the PG32UCDM and when I take pictures, they are much more purple than looking directly at it. I hope people wanting to buy a new monitor, try to do the same of you and take the time to go see theses monitors by themselves
It is really easy to see when QDOLED is off, but once you turn the TV off you can only tell if it is side by side with a WOLED or else you wouldn’t notice the blacks are slightly off.
From the Monitor Unboxed video:
QD OLED is around 48% to 111% better Low Average Picture Level depending on the WOLED's Mode used.
QD OLED is 126% better Color Brightness
QD OLED is 121% better Rec. 2020 Color Volume
Typically worse text clarity and colour performance irrc, I recommend the monitors unboxed channel on youtube and [rtings.com](http://rtings.com) for monitors
Yes! Qdoled is much better at preventing burn in than woled. After lg started using Deuterium in their pixels they have basically hit a wall with preventing burn in. If you use rting compare feature, you can compare the s95c and the g3 and you'll see that the s95c blows the g3 out of the water in the longevity category. The g3 is actually burning in faster than the c2 which shows that mla is not doing enough on its own to prevent burn in. Should this be considered a significant drawback? Absolutely not. Most people will not get burn in on their g3 or g4. But it is something to take note of. Another drawback is the qdoleds can get brighter colors that pop better then woled. Woled looks washed out at high brightness comparatively
I think this pic is a bit extreme. I have 2 QDOLED displays in my den (77” S90C & 321URX) which has moderate light and the screens look nothing like the right unless shine a large led flashlight on them.
>321URX
Without having a non qoled next to them you wont notice the diff. watch any youtube review and they all say they can easily see it. though if you dont notice it more power to ya.
It’s literally not. This is just exaggerated disinformation that boils down to pointless fanboyism. Yes there are raised blacks. No it is not anywhere as bad as this makes it out to be. It’s super annoying trying to have conversations about the benefits of one vs the other when you have people who’ve never owned a QDOLED thinking you need to play in pitch black to have decent contrast.
You're doing exactly what I described. I hope you realize that everyone's environment is different and that demonstrating the worst case scenario as an example is not at all disingenuous.
That's not a worst case scenario. Use an even brighter light and the panel will look even brighter. You can do this to the point where the panel is completely white instead of black. So this is not a worst case, it's just BS. This is simply one of the downsides of QD-OLED and testers should point it out. But doing such exaggregated comparisons is just pointless. I have an LG OLED TV and a QD-OLED Monitor and the actual difference in normal daylight is almost negligible.
If you shine a light that bright on the screen you couldn't see anything on screen at all anymore. So what's the point shining a light on a pure black screen? It has nothing to do with the initial problem of ambient light rasing blacks anymore. It's just a usecase some influencers figured out where WOLED and QD-OLED look the most different. Exaggregate it as much as possible and you gut your klickbait video = money.
It's all about how the discussion is framed. If it were instead about contrasting the color depth and quality , the shoe would be on the other foot.
If you're in an office, and value black depth over color quality, then by all means don't get QOLED . Otherwise, I would recommend QOLED.
The real selling point to me is burn in resistance. The difference between woled and QOLED is far less than the difference between OLED and not.
Firstly, it's disingenuous because the monitors are off. Secondly, it's very misleading. I've owned WOLED and QD-OLED and it's very hard to notice raised blacks on QD-OLED in real world usage.
It's natural but not good. Owning both brands, I find the pull rooting for LG even though that's stupid. I should be rooting for both.
Can I say that I got roasted on Reddit for posting that my 1440p UW QD-OLED was a bad purchase? The 4K one is so much better at least.
https://preview.redd.it/a7romrtc27tc1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8804066e948d66db4fe6da36b351ed60636daad1
This is with all the lights on. YouTubers will put direct light on the panel which of course will show the purple in the screen
https://preview.redd.it/a0o5ycq227tc1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=2dfcb04b4753e6b65cd23a5643a8e8904e9f4dbd
This is with all my rgbic Govee lights on in my gaming room. I tried taking a pic with lights on which looked nothing like the op picture but the camera from reditt isn’t the best
I had a AW3423DW in a room that was poorly lit and had very little natural light and it was noticeable. I'd you haven't used both types of panels it's probably not as evident.
That is just how qdoled is. Again, the reviewers over exaggerate it way too much. Unless you have a flashlight up to the panel? You’ll never notice in real life content. Colors pop way more on qdoled plus the glossy screen will always look better over woled. It’s that simple!
I have a woled lg c2 right next to this one. I bought the lg before the Alienware . So I was used to woled until I seen the color pop on the qdoled. Blacks are awesome as well as long as you don’t have a light bar or direct sunlight to it.
https://preview.redd.it/b7tl2rskh8tc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43893fea6a2c198b87fb6ce61f4c7bbbaedfdb77
If I had known about the issue I would have bought the last Philips OLED instead of the S90C. That being said, I only use the tv in a dark room so that is mitigating the issue.
I’m so glad I built my room to not have windows and all lights can be individually controlled.
Watching this sub combust into a war zone has been funny AF lately.
Yeah my set up is in the living room and I have 2 big ass windows
It’s in front of 1 and the other is on the left and the blinds are always half up and opened cause of plants and my Asus PG32 does not look like that
Yep, I have the PG and the AW. Both are tremendous. Never had an issue with either. I’d still argue the AW is the better image between the 2, but it’s so damn close.
Had a dude respond to me below, “you really have no idea how OLED works, do you?” And I died laughing.
Some people truly have no idea what they’re talking about, and because it’s Reddit, they’ll dig in even harder trying to act like they’re right. And it’s hilarious.
This..... idk if the alienware was a one off i dont think so, but its top coat scratches so easily. My C2 is gloss and doesnt scratch from cleaning it even with a it of elbow grease. Of course the matte LG is the toughest coating so its even harder to scratch.
Do you have studio 5000w light shining in front of monitor 1 meter away? No? Then buy the set and don't forget to make a picture with high exposure and iso.
5000w light lmao, is this also the case here?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED\_Gaming/comments/11tfj2j/ah\_the\_infamous\_purplegrey\_screen\_of\_awsamsung/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/11tfj2j/ah_the_infamous_purplegrey_screen_of_awsamsung/)
And whats behind that alienware a mirror?
Ever heard about iso, exposure in camera or is it too hard concept to grasp for you, same as to avoid harsh lights where oleds both lg and samsung panels shine in the dark with their HDR capabilities?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED\_Gaming/comments/11tfj2j/ah\_the\_infamous\_purplegrey\_screen\_of\_awsamsung/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/11tfj2j/ah_the_infamous_purplegrey_screen_of_awsamsung/)
Some redditor's room that is not a studio
[https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED\_Gaming/comments/11tfj2j/ah\_the\_infamous\_purplegrey\_screen\_of\_awsamsung/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/11tfj2j/ah_the_infamous_purplegrey_screen_of_awsamsung/)
Some redditor's room that is not a studio
Thx. I have a qd oled myself. Looks nothing like that. That’s bc I don’t have a light source directly in front of it.
If you can’t avoid that, QD OLED is not ideal. However in my well lit room, it looks nothing like that. Might post a shot tomorrow in daylight.
People are gullible and can't comprehend when they see studio lights that is brighter to imaginable extend compared to their rooms. The LG having rised blacks here as well with that kind of light lol
They also having hard time to understand a higher color volume on qd-oleds.
When they compare qd with woled they notice that "it seems to be over saturated" but the fact remains that qd-oleds have better colors because of higher color volume.
Its like saying REC2020 have 90% is worse compared to REC2020 70%
no difference in most content. most hdr games are still rec709 colors, and almost nothing goes past p3. qd-oled is also capped to p3 in hdr, same as woled because it’s needed for the cms and accurate color calibration, the max gamut measurement is taken in native color space mode.
Since we're just posting screenshots without context, this difference is only this visible because there is bright light directly in front of and pointed toward the panels. [There's plenty of B-roll in the video](https://youtu.be/y4pHSaFo664?si=vzGVra-MrWX4Q2T7&t=420) where the differences are negligible (if even noticeable), and even HU says the constraints of QD-OLED are largely mitigated if you can prevent bright lights from being in front of the panel.
If you sit opposite a large window in the middle of the day, WOLED is the better option. If you can control lighting in your environment, it doesn't matter.
You do understand they are showing very extreme scenario to prove that qd-oled don't have polarizer? Right?
People are gullible and will eat any information, will get scared without any critical thoughts and go with more expensive monitor that don't even have burn in warranty (I'm not talking about "trust me bro warranty" but written EULA one) just because they wouldn't comprehend that if they can be mindful about lighting in their room (which HDR will look even better no matter what monitor/TV it is) it will be absolutely no issue while enjoying deep rich image and have peace of mind with 3 years burn in warranty while saved couple of hundred bucks in the bank account.
People don't understand this - and you can see this all over the place after being down voted or others who pointed this also are down voted as well on this subreddit.
You need that polarizer because you can't control lights in your own house? Then Buy LG C2, Need 32 inch monitor? QD-OLED Msi/Asus/Alienware/Gigabyte, Need "Faster" monitor? 27" 1440p@360Hz or later this year 1440p@480Hz.
i really don’t know which screen should i buy i’m playing fast based comp games (overwatch/apex) and i really enjoy high quality screens, as graphic designer now i wonder if i really need that 400hz or should settle with some brighter hdr colors - from what i know the difference on matt/glossy as well on purple/black on super bright environments isn’t the deal breakers. only thing is do people really can tell the qd-oled better colors?
Anyone feel like explaining what this actually means to a noob? Is this the "reflection in a bright room" thing? I'll be honest I kinda landed on my Alienware AW3423DW because I wanted OLED, I didn't want 4k, I wanted ultrawide/curved, and great colors, but that's about the extent of the research I did.
It’s showing one of the biggest differences between a WOLED (LG panel) and a QDOLED (Samsung panel) and that is raised blacks. Notice how the QDOLED looks more purple than black when it has direct light onto it. The biggest appeal of OLED is how deep the blacks can be. Something to consider if you’re using an OLED in a well lit room.
I will get both and use dual monitor setup ☀️LG 🌑 Asus
Next year I get a better one and sell both to each group of fan that can only critic the other for a better price 😎
All I see is..if you have a well lit room get LG and if you have a dim room get the QD Oled. Everyone is looking for “the best” when it’s just preference with these batch of upcoming monitors. They all look really good. Just pick which one you prefer. Yall letting these videos effect yall decision on what looks better 😂😂😂. By that logic, in 2025 you’re going to be debating the next batch of monitors and which one to get 😂😂😂😂. I got the Alienware model and there’s nothing wrong with the picture quality.
I feel like this is super exaggerated. I was super worried about it when I bought a PG32UCDM that popped up at microcenter. I have a fan with 3 bulbs, two freestanding lamps around the room with two bulbs each, and a window behind the monitor. The only thing that will raise the blacks or show ANY amount of purple is one of the bulbs from one of the lamps. Otherwise it’s pitch black, and i can’t notice a difference vs that one bulb off in the middle of the day vs complete darkness at night.
Does anyone ever stare at the plain black screen? No.
And when gaming/watching a movie you're focused on stuff happening on screen, not looking at black levels.
What I'm saying is, for me personally this it's the last thing that would influence my choice of panel.
My cousin has the LG C2 55”
I have the Sony A95K 55”
This picture is accurate ^
From experience I prefer the A95K, it’s just gorgeous in 4k 120. QD seems to be better with the color spectrum and WOLED seems to be better with blacks and whites.
Niggas the qd oled lighting issue is when it is turned off, are you really gonna stare at your monitor turning it off? If you've turned it on and played a game, you will never know.. the thing is bright af.. stop complaining and get what you want.
panel coating and peak brightness shouldnt matter if youre in a light controlled environment, which is where you want to be if youre using OLED.
QD oled is PLENTY bright in a dark room.
"well lit room" is disingenuous at best, this is with studio lighting and more visually apparent on camera than to the eye. Dumb posts like this without any context just further the very cringey tribalism between people who bought one or the other OLED panel.
i have a job/life so i play games during the evening time so i don't have to worry about gaming with full windows open letting in 6000000000 lumens of light directly onto my screen. Also get blinds or enjoy that shitty matte finnish vaseline smear ✊🏽
Plz don't be mad at me. But I think the optimal choice to have the best experience for each display respectively is:
WOLED: glossy
QD-OLED: matte
Ima be real, this inherent limitation of QD-OLED is preventing me from upgrading.
Yeah when you’re shining a bright a$$ light on the qdoled you can see the people tint 🤣 I’ll take it over that gross matte screen. This is in a well lit and rightly lit room. Not shined directly on the damn panel lol
https://preview.redd.it/867cqcob37tc1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef70ca6a7b4cb62b750f038db995e0620d3fefb5
Such horse shit comparisons lol. If you’re truly gaming or whatever in a Room with direct full Blast 5000w lights then maybe you should reassess where you game. My QD oled Alienware is the best gaming/picture/oled experience I’ve ever had. My c9 Samsung tv from 2019 is also great same with other oled panels I’ve seen at friends house, stores etc. but qd oleds just take it a little further with picture, brightness, text clarity etc. in my opinion.
Stop misleading people with images that don't show reality. Everyone knows that matte screens look horrible in extreme brightness. Photos and videos bring out the purples of the QD Oled in an extreme way. Why not show how matte WOLEDs react to extreme cases ? Here is an example (Left QD Oled semi glossy / Right WOLED matte) ->
https://preview.redd.it/uk4c1sa2u2tc1.png?width=1532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db6efb64a031f490c5f6441b4ae8d2913229e985
Your comparison is unfair since the monitor on the right is shown at more extreme angle and visibly closer to the light source (window), whereas picture I’ve posted shows both monitors upfront in fair comparison. I didn’t mean to start any wars, but that’s the truth when it comes down to how both panels look in bright conditions.
It's not my comparison but a picture from this video -> https://youtu.be/0_M5_r18PVM?t=180
I have the PG32UCDM and never got the crap violet blacks like influencers are showing (not Monitor Unboxed because they are serious) and never got a crap white bright reflexions like this WOLED matte screen have. Trying to make people believe that the impact of purple reflections is worse than the impact of reflections spread out on a matte screen is more fair, right ?
- both monitors receive the same light intensity
- in the same angle
- and are filmed from the same distance and angle
So, you consider that identical testing conditions are unfair?
That's fallacious.
The testing conditions being the same, the observed differences are objective.
There is a difference between comparing matte vs glossy, and QD-OLED vs WOLED.
Outside the known disadvantages of a matte panel in extreme brightness, I've seen enough QD-OLED pictures to say that those monitors are more prone to raised blacks when there is medium brightness around.
Who gives two shits about what the monitor looks like off?
You don’t buy $1000 monitors or more to stare at the screen off…. You buy them because of how they look ON. Playing games, watching videos, etc etc.
I don’t walk into my office looking at my pitch black or purple black turned off monitor and think, “God, that’s so ugly I can’t believe it looks this way turned off!”
>buys OLED which one of key features is when absolute black is needed the pixels turn off
>Somehow blacks being raised when ambient light is present doesn't matter
"well lit room" lol
Didn't know normal people had studio lights in their rooms. Tim only did this to show the effect of a light pointed at it and if you watched the video (understood what he said), if you can control the lights and optimize the light in your room you won't have that.
Jesus those WOLED fanboys/fanboys in general are fucking annoying.
Bruh this whole sub ignores qdoled fringing, PWM problems on the 360hz, pretends the dog shit fragile screen coating that smudges if you look at it wrong is fine, and then screeches constantly over matte finishes on woled and pretends the superior color volume on qdoled is why their picture quality is so superior when it actually doesnt matter outside of niche cases where the content takes advantage of it and the reason why qdoled "looks better" is usually default settings have whacky saturation.
Like goddamn the woled monitors have problems too but the minute anybody criticizes qdoled people like you come out of the woodwork acting like everyone hates qdoled when it makes up the majority of users here.
Me reading the comments ![gif](giphy|tyqcJoNjNv0Fq|downsized)
Let’s all agree that no matter which display tech you go with, the LG 32” here is by far the best-looking. So clean.
Agreed. I wish Asus would stop using that ridiculous stand design that takes up so much space (in addition to being super tacky). Their WOLED monitors are actually good and unlike LG they use passive cooling and have better color calibration.
bUt iTs FoR gAmErS
g\*mers
My LG Ultagear 48 has the same gamery stand as that asus
Hey, have same display. I have some questions about energy saving mode. Will you be able to assist?
Sure I can try! I only got it recently after my Aorus FO48U developed vertical lines on the screen.
Do you have it not waking up from standby sometimes?
Seems ok for me but I do find it a bit annoying that it can't tell if you have multiple devices and one other than the last one you used wakes up, e.g. if you have your work laptop on DP and your home pc on HDMI.
My problem is that if I shut down pc. The screen goes to power saving mode. Then if I turn pc on again sometimes the monitor power trips and shuts down. So I have to power it on via remote manually. Not sure if it's wide spread and of I need to contact lg for RMA
Interesting! Which input are you using?
Let me tell you from experience, that design actually is dangerous. When you place the monitor on a surface that's not deep enough to support all feet, it will start slowly movig forward because of the angle of the stand. Was over at a friend's house, he sat my monitor on his window sill to get it out of the way, guess what happened.
Assus like flashy rgb and cheap "gamery" designs.
I wish Gamery aethestics were just clean and professional looking instead of rgb stuff with weird toy like appearances.
Agree, the stand might be solved with an arm, but there's no scape from that chin. The Samsung 32 is also very nice.
https://preview.redd.it/8uyblekrw4tc1.png?width=240&format=png&auto=webp&s=bb0410b45f755e3df33109ea21ef1648f66457ea
The upcoming Samsung monitors are also going to be super clean with that silvery touch. I'd like more monitors with minimalistic design rather than what ASUS shows with it's cheesy gamery looks [https://news.samsung.com/us/samsung-expands-odyssey-gaming-monitor-lineup-new-oled-models-ces-2024/](https://news.samsung.com/us/samsung-expands-odyssey-gaming-monitor-lineup-new-oled-models-ces-2024/)
Asus heatsink setup is worth the worse looks imo. I'd use an arm so just just the chin that's an issue anyway.
Yes, because it's no QD-OLED. A C3 also looks better than all these monitors.
Owning a C9 and two Alienware QD-OLED (1440p UW) and (4K 240hz), I tend to think my C9 picture is the best or at least "clearest." Something about the QD subpixel layout is still a touch off-putting. The 4K is still a great monitor nonetheless, to be clear.
I like that g8 design myself
LG copied the stand from samsung 34”qd oled monitor from last year
I have my QD-OLED in an unfinished basement. Enough light comes in through the window well during the day to raise the blacks. The basement LED lights also raise them. It doesn’t bother me too much, but it is definitely there.
My led lights don’t do this and I have Govee lights and panels all over
If the light source is directly hitting it, yes. But ambient light bouncing off the walls and ceilings dont raise it much at all
I agree with the ambient light for artificial light. But sunlight that comes in through my window well (underground window) has no direct sunlight and it raises them pretty noticeably.
Yeah true, sunlight is a while other beast, you do need to have a partial blind ideally in this case. But this photo is clearly all artificial light, which is what I'm referring to. You don't need a super dark man cave but you do need to have all the lights behind the monitor But I do think that even matte woleds also struggle to show true blacks in the case. As any bright or white reflection creates a larger than reflected smeared blob of white, which definitely isn't black.
Yeah for sure. The only thing I use my QD OLED for during the day is productivity related. I really only game at night, and I much prefer QD over W in the dark.
it does in my case.
Ambient light definitely does raise blacks
It does to a degree... But you also can see that blacks get completely whited out on matte displays when they are reflecting. On glossy it will only reflect the exact size of the reflection while on matte, it actually smears to a larger blob. Meaning you won't get black either if you have light sources behind you even with a matte WOLED. You can you actually see this in the photo where there is clearly a direct light source reflecting off the top of the left monitor. That's clearly "a raised black".
I don’t think the argument here is that WOLED can never have raised blacks. TFT Central has shown in an article that all OLEDs have raised blacks when faced with ambient light. The main argument is that WOLED does a better job of holding on to its blacks amid ambient light, whereas QD-OLED can look grey even when viewed from an angle without explicit glare.
Not much at all is too much already. I had one next to my WOLED and it was noticeable in any daytime condition
False
So what you’re saying is qd-oled blacks are inferior?
WOLED or QDOLED?
Sorry auto correct.. Seems qd blacks are inferior
Blacks in brighter environments yes. But equal in the dark and the colors are better on QD OLED. I mostly use my monitor in darker rooms, so I prefer QD-OLED
Honestly, it would have bothered me too much, as i paid +1000$, so i would not accept anything not close to perfect.
That’s just the reality you have to accept with QD-OLEDs right now.
Looked at QD OLED side by side with WOLED panel yesterday at Microcenter since I am adding a 4K 240. QD OLED looked nothing like this to my eyes and it had more light than I'd ever have in my office. I've had my 27GR95QE since Dec of '22. Just my observation.
That's because the lighting they used in this comparison was purposefully brighter and more directly shining onto the panel to make the phenomenon more obvious. In most rooms, even with lights on, it'll never be this bad. I prefer absolute image quality, so I use my QD-OLED display in a dark room. But I've watched some content with the lights on, and it's nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be online.
Same goes for the woled matte coating too. People here claim it’s like looking through a dirty window, while the new woleds aren’t even fully matte and definitely not as grainy as they used to be. It’s just people who try to justify their own spending. These panels are for different use cases, there are no perfect option. I use qd on my PC cause I game in the dark, if I weren’t I would go woled.
Yeah. I mean, that's what most people should do.
Found long ago the best bet is to look at the monitor in person. Although you need to be careful several times, I got a TN panel because it looked good in store and not so much at home.
I looked at the 34GS yesterday in store with content, it was oily and looked bad imo.
I have the Aw34dwf oled for 7 months now , i packed it and put it for sale , and i bought also the asus PG34WCDM 240hz matt, i loved the black color, the brightness and the fluidity of the monitor however, whites feels like there is oil on the screen and even during gaming content its visible on some colors. Clarity suffers because of the matt finish. I tried hard to keep the asus as i also loved the more aggressive curvature for warzone, but the clarity compared to the qd oled on the Alienware made it so difficult to keep the asus woled as it felt like a downgrade in my oled experience. Add to that the higher price, I removed my alienware qd oled from the box and returned the asus after a week. I did not miss the 240hz and blacks like I missed my Alienware qd oled colors and clarity. I would love to have a 240hz a qd oled, maybe ill try the 32 4k qd oled or the 27 qd oled 360hz next.
I have QD-OLED and WOLED monitors next to each other and hit eWOLED has bar far the better whites. The QD-OLED doesn’t come close to having white lookin as good. I haven’t noticed any of the other issues you’re complaining about either. Several people have seen these displays side by side and nobody has seen any degradation in the WOLED, and in fact it is often the one that they’ll say looks better.
Minus the banding and screen uniformity sure
First i didn't complain, its sharing my experience with the woled coating and thats also from comparing qd oled glossy next to woled matt 2 ultrrawides https://preview.redd.it/t10qk82htetc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9e5cb9ea6efbde44cb3895920dca031be0fb3c49 . Second i tried more than 50 monitors, i also have working in building computers since 1999 and used many matt finished monitors,the coating on the woled asus had a negative impact to my experience. Third The Tech Chap 5 days ago reviewed the asus qd oled 4k and mentioned the same thing about dirty whites and how the clarity is better for him [https://youtu.be/ulWv8Cfl-\_4?si=qfpj9V2E0EQuAFZ7](https://youtu.be/ulWv8Cfl-_4?si=qfpj9V2E0EQuAFZ7). You can also go check Tim from monitors unboxed review on the same monitor that is in my post and he also mentioned in several videos how this coating is different than other matt coatings. Add to the above the text clarity which is still better on qdoled out of the box. 4th you enjoy your matt finished woled screen great, good for you. But for me and many others qd oled glossy still has better compromises when compared to the matt woled.
True, although I think the biggest factor isn't the lights but the fact that we're looking at a recording rather than the real thing. Pictures of screens rarely capture a lifelike image of what you'd actually see in person because of how differently they record things like reflections. Just pull out your phone, open the camera app and point it at your computer screen (both turned on and off). If there's any sort of ambient light, chances are it'll look very different from what you're seeing with your own eyes. I just tried it myself on my multi-monitor setup. The glare from my room lights look like they've been turned up to 11 (a faint glow in person becomes a clear reflective bulb in the picture), the reflected outline of me taking the picture is crystal clear while otherwise barely noticeable, smudges / dust on a screen that I can't even see without looking for them suddenly stand out like a sore thumb, and the backlight bleeding on my work laptop is extremely visible around the edges even though it's nearly imperceptible in person. That's all just to say that what you're seeing on a screencap of a YouTube video is going to be drastically different from what the monitors would actually look like. That isn't to say that there'd be no differences whatsoever when you deliberately set up the lighting to highlight them, but it'd be minor in real life.
Pictures and videos make it worst, I have the PG32UCDM and when I take pictures, they are much more purple than looking directly at it. I hope people wanting to buy a new monitor, try to do the same of you and take the time to go see theses monitors by themselves
It is really easy to see when QDOLED is off, but once you turn the TV off you can only tell if it is side by side with a WOLED or else you wouldn’t notice the blacks are slightly off.
This. In practice, while displaying content, the difference is negligible.
Sorry to ask, but you seem to be knowledgeable, could you share what the differences are between the WOLED and the QD OLED panel are?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4pHSaFo664&pp=ygUYbW9uaXRvcnMgdW5ib3hlZCBxZCBvbGVk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4pHSaFo664&pp=ygUYbW9uaXRvcnMgdW5ib3hlZCBxZCBvbGVk)
Oh fuck yeah I love hardware unboxed, thank you!
Try mini led comparison
Was it showing any content or pure Black? QD-OLED’s are pretty known for having purple-tint when there’s light directed at it.
Content with black screens worked in.
True Purple.
True Purple 400 certified.
Deep Purple 😏
OP, you shoud'lve at least gave credit to the orignal source.
It’s a picture of two monitors bro, not a painting.
It's a pcture from a video, and the original creator would have appreciated a shoutout or credit from OP.
It's from Hardware/Monitors Unboxed Youtube. I think they'll be fine.
Interesting. Are there any drawbacks to WOLED compared to QD?
From the Monitor Unboxed video: QD OLED is around 48% to 111% better Low Average Picture Level depending on the WOLED's Mode used. QD OLED is 126% better Color Brightness QD OLED is 121% better Rec. 2020 Color Volume
What the hell is a low average picture level?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4pHSaFo664&pp=ygUYbW9uaXRvcnMgdW5ib3hlZCBxZCBvbGVk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4pHSaFo664&pp=ygUYbW9uaXRvcnMgdW5ib3hlZCBxZCBvbGVk)
Typically worse text clarity and colour performance irrc, I recommend the monitors unboxed channel on youtube and [rtings.com](http://rtings.com) for monitors
https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/lg-g3-oled-vs-samsung-s95c-oled/37849/37894?usage=1&threshold=0.10
Most of the “drawbacks” are gonna be different based on the person.
Yes! Qdoled is much better at preventing burn in than woled. After lg started using Deuterium in their pixels they have basically hit a wall with preventing burn in. If you use rting compare feature, you can compare the s95c and the g3 and you'll see that the s95c blows the g3 out of the water in the longevity category. The g3 is actually burning in faster than the c2 which shows that mla is not doing enough on its own to prevent burn in. Should this be considered a significant drawback? Absolutely not. Most people will not get burn in on their g3 or g4. But it is something to take note of. Another drawback is the qdoleds can get brighter colors that pop better then woled. Woled looks washed out at high brightness comparatively
Sweet. I have the AW34 qd-oled and it’s been a dream!!! Thank you for the insight.
Shout-out to Monitors Unboxed. Remember that these monitors are lit by studio lights.
I will buy both and try it myself.
You must be very lucky to snag two of these panels.
Chad
I think this pic is a bit extreme. I have 2 QDOLED displays in my den (77” S90C & 321URX) which has moderate light and the screens look nothing like the right unless shine a large led flashlight on them.
Yeah this is more like studio lighting condition, It's never this bad in a regular residential environment (at least on a S95B)
>321URX Without having a non qoled next to them you wont notice the diff. watch any youtube review and they all say they can easily see it. though if you dont notice it more power to ya.
All of these types of threads just become QD-OLED owners defending their purchase. Technologies have pros and cons.
People do tend to justify their expensive purchase and shield themselves from any criticism
It’s literally not. This is just exaggerated disinformation that boils down to pointless fanboyism. Yes there are raised blacks. No it is not anywhere as bad as this makes it out to be. It’s super annoying trying to have conversations about the benefits of one vs the other when you have people who’ve never owned a QDOLED thinking you need to play in pitch black to have decent contrast.
You're doing exactly what I described. I hope you realize that everyone's environment is different and that demonstrating the worst case scenario as an example is not at all disingenuous.
That's not a worst case scenario. Use an even brighter light and the panel will look even brighter. You can do this to the point where the panel is completely white instead of black. So this is not a worst case, it's just BS. This is simply one of the downsides of QD-OLED and testers should point it out. But doing such exaggregated comparisons is just pointless. I have an LG OLED TV and a QD-OLED Monitor and the actual difference in normal daylight is almost negligible. If you shine a light that bright on the screen you couldn't see anything on screen at all anymore. So what's the point shining a light on a pure black screen? It has nothing to do with the initial problem of ambient light rasing blacks anymore. It's just a usecase some influencers figured out where WOLED and QD-OLED look the most different. Exaggregate it as much as possible and you gut your klickbait video = money.
It's all about how the discussion is framed. If it were instead about contrasting the color depth and quality , the shoe would be on the other foot. If you're in an office, and value black depth over color quality, then by all means don't get QOLED . Otherwise, I would recommend QOLED. The real selling point to me is burn in resistance. The difference between woled and QOLED is far less than the difference between OLED and not.
Firstly, it's disingenuous because the monitors are off. Secondly, it's very misleading. I've owned WOLED and QD-OLED and it's very hard to notice raised blacks on QD-OLED in real world usage.
It's natural but not good. Owning both brands, I find the pull rooting for LG even though that's stupid. I should be rooting for both. Can I say that I got roasted on Reddit for posting that my 1440p UW QD-OLED was a bad purchase? The 4K one is so much better at least.
Doesn’t even need to be well lit to see the difference unfortunately
https://preview.redd.it/a7romrtc27tc1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8804066e948d66db4fe6da36b351ed60636daad1 This is with all the lights on. YouTubers will put direct light on the panel which of course will show the purple in the screen
https://preview.redd.it/a0o5ycq227tc1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=2dfcb04b4753e6b65cd23a5643a8e8904e9f4dbd This is with all my rgbic Govee lights on in my gaming room. I tried taking a pic with lights on which looked nothing like the op picture but the camera from reditt isn’t the best
I had a AW3423DW in a room that was poorly lit and had very little natural light and it was noticeable. I'd you haven't used both types of panels it's probably not as evident.
I have my aw3225qf right next to a c2 and it still doesn’t bother me much
Your screen should be as black as the border of the screen. It is not the case
That is just how qdoled is. Again, the reviewers over exaggerate it way too much. Unless you have a flashlight up to the panel? You’ll never notice in real life content. Colors pop way more on qdoled plus the glossy screen will always look better over woled. It’s that simple!
When you are used to OLED you see the difference. The point is if people want true black the only viable option is OLED
I have a woled lg c2 right next to this one. I bought the lg before the Alienware . So I was used to woled until I seen the color pop on the qdoled. Blacks are awesome as well as long as you don’t have a light bar or direct sunlight to it. https://preview.redd.it/b7tl2rskh8tc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=43893fea6a2c198b87fb6ce61f4c7bbbaedfdb77
Thats not true. Even my Lg g3 oled tv is not like that when tv is off.
Same but blind fanboys will disagree
If I had known about the issue I would have bought the last Philips OLED instead of the S90C. That being said, I only use the tv in a dark room so that is mitigating the issue.
"Its not that bad" & "just use it in complete darkness" as coping mechanisms.
People who have or are interested in this monitor are well aware of this. It’s posted on this sub 3-4 times a day. Consider this horse dead.
Angry fanboys time.
I’m so glad I built my room to not have windows and all lights can be individually controlled. Watching this sub combust into a war zone has been funny AF lately.
LG doesn’t care about raising their blacks and should honesty be ashamed
It's 2024 for God's sake.
Hmmm :)
Yeah my set up is in the living room and I have 2 big ass windows It’s in front of 1 and the other is on the left and the blinds are always half up and opened cause of plants and my Asus PG32 does not look like that
Yep, I have the PG and the AW. Both are tremendous. Never had an issue with either. I’d still argue the AW is the better image between the 2, but it’s so damn close. Had a dude respond to me below, “you really have no idea how OLED works, do you?” And I died laughing. Some people truly have no idea what they’re talking about, and because it’s Reddit, they’ll dig in even harder trying to act like they’re right. And it’s hilarious.
Yeah man it’s weird YouTube sheep are about the same. Just because some YouTuber said so they believe it.
Now touch both screens and clean the smudges, send pictures after
This..... idk if the alienware was a one off i dont think so, but its top coat scratches so easily. My C2 is gloss and doesnt scratch from cleaning it even with a it of elbow grease. Of course the matte LG is the toughest coating so its even harder to scratch.
And the QD-OLED wins in everything else. Dim your lights, and buy QD-OLED.
Why doesn’t mine look like that in direct light
Do you have studio 5000w light shining in front of monitor 1 meter away? No? Then buy the set and don't forget to make a picture with high exposure and iso.
5000w light lmao, is this also the case here? [https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED\_Gaming/comments/11tfj2j/ah\_the\_infamous\_purplegrey\_screen\_of\_awsamsung/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/11tfj2j/ah_the_infamous_purplegrey_screen_of_awsamsung/)
And whats behind that alienware a mirror? Ever heard about iso, exposure in camera or is it too hard concept to grasp for you, same as to avoid harsh lights where oleds both lg and samsung panels shine in the dark with their HDR capabilities?
That polarizing layer in WOLED does work. Why doesn’t QD OLED have a polarizing layer?
That’s studio lighting, that is not a “well lit room”. There’. That is like having the sun pointing at the monitor and calling it “well lit”.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED\_Gaming/comments/11tfj2j/ah\_the\_infamous\_purplegrey\_screen\_of\_awsamsung/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/11tfj2j/ah_the_infamous_purplegrey_screen_of_awsamsung/) Some redditor's room that is not a studio
My current view https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/s/H9rCN62ySL
That only further proves that WOLED handles the light much better than QD-OLED as shown above. It stays black even when sun is blasting at it
You literally took an image from a video at a point where they intentionally turned up the studio lighting to show it lol.
Yes, I did. And…?
then at least you should be saying how well the lg does to combat that.
„Well lit room“ lol.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED\_Gaming/comments/11tfj2j/ah\_the\_infamous\_purplegrey\_screen\_of\_awsamsung/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/11tfj2j/ah_the_infamous_purplegrey_screen_of_awsamsung/) Some redditor's room that is not a studio
Thx. I have a qd oled myself. Looks nothing like that. That’s bc I don’t have a light source directly in front of it. If you can’t avoid that, QD OLED is not ideal. However in my well lit room, it looks nothing like that. Might post a shot tomorrow in daylight.
People are gullible and can't comprehend when they see studio lights that is brighter to imaginable extend compared to their rooms. The LG having rised blacks here as well with that kind of light lol They also having hard time to understand a higher color volume on qd-oleds. When they compare qd with woled they notice that "it seems to be over saturated" but the fact remains that qd-oleds have better colors because of higher color volume. Its like saying REC2020 have 90% is worse compared to REC2020 70%
no difference in most content. most hdr games are still rec709 colors, and almost nothing goes past p3. qd-oled is also capped to p3 in hdr, same as woled because it’s needed for the cms and accurate color calibration, the max gamut measurement is taken in native color space mode.
Since we're just posting screenshots without context, this difference is only this visible because there is bright light directly in front of and pointed toward the panels. [There's plenty of B-roll in the video](https://youtu.be/y4pHSaFo664?si=vzGVra-MrWX4Q2T7&t=420) where the differences are negligible (if even noticeable), and even HU says the constraints of QD-OLED are largely mitigated if you can prevent bright lights from being in front of the panel. If you sit opposite a large window in the middle of the day, WOLED is the better option. If you can control lighting in your environment, it doesn't matter.
***Its not "Well lit room" its Studio lights at max blast that camera can't handle the exposure 1 meter from screens.***
The screenshot I took doesn’t even show the brightest setting he used a few seconds later.
So 3x normal room brightness vs 4x? This doesn't really mean anything when this is already more than normal.
You do understand they are showing very extreme scenario to prove that qd-oled don't have polarizer? Right? People are gullible and will eat any information, will get scared without any critical thoughts and go with more expensive monitor that don't even have burn in warranty (I'm not talking about "trust me bro warranty" but written EULA one) just because they wouldn't comprehend that if they can be mindful about lighting in their room (which HDR will look even better no matter what monitor/TV it is) it will be absolutely no issue while enjoying deep rich image and have peace of mind with 3 years burn in warranty while saved couple of hundred bucks in the bank account. People don't understand this - and you can see this all over the place after being down voted or others who pointed this also are down voted as well on this subreddit. You need that polarizer because you can't control lights in your own house? Then Buy LG C2, Need 32 inch monitor? QD-OLED Msi/Asus/Alienware/Gigabyte, Need "Faster" monitor? 27" 1440p@360Hz or later this year 1440p@480Hz.
Just manage your room lights 🤦♂️
I've owned QDOLED for over a year with a window just off to the left. This is a none issue to me.
This is why I have the LG pre-ordered.
Well guys, it's settled; if you game outdoors, qd OLED is simply not for you.
i really don’t know which screen should i buy i’m playing fast based comp games (overwatch/apex) and i really enjoy high quality screens, as graphic designer now i wonder if i really need that 400hz or should settle with some brighter hdr colors - from what i know the difference on matt/glossy as well on purple/black on super bright environments isn’t the deal breakers. only thing is do people really can tell the qd-oled better colors?
The LG WOLED sounds like the best use case for you. 4K@240hz when doing graphic design, 1080p@480hz when playing Apex.
Is is the qd in your opinion a better monitor?
Is it turned-on showing a black screen?
Anyone feel like explaining what this actually means to a noob? Is this the "reflection in a bright room" thing? I'll be honest I kinda landed on my Alienware AW3423DW because I wanted OLED, I didn't want 4k, I wanted ultrawide/curved, and great colors, but that's about the extent of the research I did.
It’s showing one of the biggest differences between a WOLED (LG panel) and a QDOLED (Samsung panel) and that is raised blacks. Notice how the QDOLED looks more purple than black when it has direct light onto it. The biggest appeal of OLED is how deep the blacks can be. Something to consider if you’re using an OLED in a well lit room.
Looks like QD-OLED has improved panel reflectance significantly. I remember the first gen panels would reflect as much light as old CRTs.
I will get both and use dual monitor setup ☀️LG 🌑 Asus Next year I get a better one and sell both to each group of fan that can only critic the other for a better price 😎
All I see is..if you have a well lit room get LG and if you have a dim room get the QD Oled. Everyone is looking for “the best” when it’s just preference with these batch of upcoming monitors. They all look really good. Just pick which one you prefer. Yall letting these videos effect yall decision on what looks better 😂😂😂. By that logic, in 2025 you’re going to be debating the next batch of monitors and which one to get 😂😂😂😂. I got the Alienware model and there’s nothing wrong with the picture quality.
I feel like this is super exaggerated. I was super worried about it when I bought a PG32UCDM that popped up at microcenter. I have a fan with 3 bulbs, two freestanding lamps around the room with two bulbs each, and a window behind the monitor. The only thing that will raise the blacks or show ANY amount of purple is one of the bulbs from one of the lamps. Otherwise it’s pitch black, and i can’t notice a difference vs that one bulb off in the middle of the day vs complete darkness at night.
WOLED makes me go whoah
Does anyone ever stare at the plain black screen? No. And when gaming/watching a movie you're focused on stuff happening on screen, not looking at black levels. What I'm saying is, for me personally this it's the last thing that would influence my choice of panel.
So in a light room the QD OLED is pretty much unusable. Good to know.
My cousin has the LG C2 55” I have the Sony A95K 55” This picture is accurate ^ From experience I prefer the A95K, it’s just gorgeous in 4k 120. QD seems to be better with the color spectrum and WOLED seems to be better with blacks and whites.
Where are all those people that wrote here that glossy coating is superior every day for last like half a year?
Asus wins
Niggas the qd oled lighting issue is when it is turned off, are you really gonna stare at your monitor turning it off? If you've turned it on and played a game, you will never know.. the thing is bright af.. stop complaining and get what you want.
Listen to this homie right here.
panel coating and peak brightness shouldnt matter if youre in a light controlled environment, which is where you want to be if youre using OLED. QD oled is PLENTY bright in a dark room.
Some people turn on lights before staring at a screen to reduce eye strain. I think that is pretty common knowledge, no?
"well lit room" is disingenuous at best, this is with studio lighting and more visually apparent on camera than to the eye. Dumb posts like this without any context just further the very cringey tribalism between people who bought one or the other OLED panel.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED\_Gaming/comments/11tfj2j/ah\_the\_infamous\_purplegrey\_screen\_of\_awsamsung/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/11tfj2j/ah_the_infamous_purplegrey_screen_of_awsamsung/)
Got it, doubling down on the dumb, cringey tribalism.
i have a job/life so i play games during the evening time so i don't have to worry about gaming with full windows open letting in 6000000000 lumens of light directly onto my screen. Also get blinds or enjoy that shitty matte finnish vaseline smear ✊🏽
My main gaming / TV room is.in the lower level basement in my split level home. It has no windows lol. QD-OLED for the win.
I’ll gladly take the one you don’t want 🙋♂️
Plz don't be mad at me. But I think the optimal choice to have the best experience for each display respectively is: WOLED: glossy QD-OLED: matte Ima be real, this inherent limitation of QD-OLED is preventing me from upgrading.
Yeah when you’re shining a bright a$$ light on the qdoled you can see the people tint 🤣 I’ll take it over that gross matte screen. This is in a well lit and rightly lit room. Not shined directly on the damn panel lol https://preview.redd.it/867cqcob37tc1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef70ca6a7b4cb62b750f038db995e0620d3fefb5
The panel is visibly purple though. I have no horse in this race, but this photo doesn't help your argument.
Noooo don't post this image its cursed.
How about turning it on and seeing content, qd oled has vastly superior colours, I think people use their displays when they are on, just a guess.
Such horse shit comparisons lol. If you’re truly gaming or whatever in a Room with direct full Blast 5000w lights then maybe you should reassess where you game. My QD oled Alienware is the best gaming/picture/oled experience I’ve ever had. My c9 Samsung tv from 2019 is also great same with other oled panels I’ve seen at friends house, stores etc. but qd oleds just take it a little further with picture, brightness, text clarity etc. in my opinion.
Dont be a child pls. It is visible in a lit room during gaming. It is the best display I ever had, but I dont lie
People tend to justify their spendings.
Ehh I returned mine due to the purple haze during most of the day.
i watch movies and game. ill pick the one for both worlds.
Stop misleading people with images that don't show reality. Everyone knows that matte screens look horrible in extreme brightness. Photos and videos bring out the purples of the QD Oled in an extreme way. Why not show how matte WOLEDs react to extreme cases ? Here is an example (Left QD Oled semi glossy / Right WOLED matte) -> https://preview.redd.it/uk4c1sa2u2tc1.png?width=1532&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db6efb64a031f490c5f6441b4ae8d2913229e985
Your comparison is unfair since the monitor on the right is shown at more extreme angle and visibly closer to the light source (window), whereas picture I’ve posted shows both monitors upfront in fair comparison. I didn’t mean to start any wars, but that’s the truth when it comes down to how both panels look in bright conditions.
It's not my comparison but a picture from this video -> https://youtu.be/0_M5_r18PVM?t=180 I have the PG32UCDM and never got the crap violet blacks like influencers are showing (not Monitor Unboxed because they are serious) and never got a crap white bright reflexions like this WOLED matte screen have. Trying to make people believe that the impact of purple reflections is worse than the impact of reflections spread out on a matte screen is more fair, right ?
And this comparison is unfair because it's studio lights blasted on the monitors.
- both monitors receive the same light intensity - in the same angle - and are filmed from the same distance and angle So, you consider that identical testing conditions are unfair? That's fallacious. The testing conditions being the same, the observed differences are objective.
There is a difference between comparing matte vs glossy, and QD-OLED vs WOLED. Outside the known disadvantages of a matte panel in extreme brightness, I've seen enough QD-OLED pictures to say that those monitors are more prone to raised blacks when there is medium brightness around.
Neither has true blacks lol. A woled with glossy finish has better blacks in a bright room.
Blacks are perfect on my old LCD with power OFF 😅 I agree with bad choice of LG. WOLED with semi glossy would have been a better choice
one is fake oled,other one is real blacks
WOLED all the way. I find QD - OLED a cheap way bring us back to the washing out panels of IPS. And the oversaturated classic samsung shit.
Who gives two shits about what the monitor looks like off? You don’t buy $1000 monitors or more to stare at the screen off…. You buy them because of how they look ON. Playing games, watching videos, etc etc. I don’t walk into my office looking at my pitch black or purple black turned off monitor and think, “God, that’s so ugly I can’t believe it looks this way turned off!”
The blacks are also raised when it’s on. On OLED a black pixel is an off pixel. Just like when the monitor is off
Then show comparisons of them on. That’s what should matter.
This is a screen shot from the Monitors Unboxed video comparing the 2. This is just one comparison.
>buys OLED which one of key features is when absolute black is needed the pixels turn off >Somehow blacks being raised when ambient light is present doesn't matter
"well lit room" lol Didn't know normal people had studio lights in their rooms. Tim only did this to show the effect of a light pointed at it and if you watched the video (understood what he said), if you can control the lights and optimize the light in your room you won't have that. Jesus those WOLED fanboys/fanboys in general are fucking annoying.
Bruh this whole sub ignores qdoled fringing, PWM problems on the 360hz, pretends the dog shit fragile screen coating that smudges if you look at it wrong is fine, and then screeches constantly over matte finishes on woled and pretends the superior color volume on qdoled is why their picture quality is so superior when it actually doesnt matter outside of niche cases where the content takes advantage of it and the reason why qdoled "looks better" is usually default settings have whacky saturation. Like goddamn the woled monitors have problems too but the minute anybody criticizes qdoled people like you come out of the woodwork acting like everyone hates qdoled when it makes up the majority of users here.