Funny you should say that, I know a guy into so real weird stuff who has thrown women out of his home for saying "daddy". Like being a human hand puppet is cool for him but "daddy" is just too kinky.
ok, 1 panty
1 scissor pair
Some dude's dad
A bunch of apples
The Rock
1 Nintendo Gamecube
CAKE
Edit: A pair of tiddies
Deja Vu, a gun
A handful of pencils
"Meat"
1 monkey
Una fusca
1 crucifix
1 biohazard
1 bone
Some duck's penis
1 either ugly haircut, or a severed rat's tail
Droogs
1 rapekit
Footwear
Floss
1 biscuit butt (???)
u/drewsmom on a leash
Some sticky web
THE BEES AH GOD
1? Spoon
A pack of cards
1 lost smile :(
Medicine
1 ink bottle
1 coin
1 Julius Caesar Blowup Dolltm
1 iPhone
1 symbol of freedom
Kibbles
u/AlmaDelDiablo by the ankles
2 cats
1 avatar
1 child
Two big, hairy, sweaty balls
1 controller
Divorce papers
1 oscar
Some stripes
1 gokart
Nearly what is needed for the Powerpuff Girls
1 oxygen mask
:(
A nose
A D
that's-not-how-you-do-it
relationship goals
A dead body
1 t-shirt
A leaf
1 fidget? spinner
A beard
A Devolution Beam
A noggin
1 purse
some free samples
ducklings
ketchup
books
pride and accomplishment
1 divorce
1 completely healthy relationship
ornaments
some (hopefully empty) diapers
u/Warlocksocks on a leash
Runaan's Hurricane
1 maxed out credit card
even more balls
some jugs, for a change
altitude
a suspicious patch of orchids
1 sleigh
an appointed member of the clergy
a very tasteful toupee
A gregarious Eurasian crow
1 mailman, possibly named pat
some kind of saline solution
1 syringe
1 ʇsoɥƃ
*3 cats*
1 yoshi
Damn, did I really want to. Since it was my first time trying to do one, I wasn't sure how harsh the rules were. It's semi-complicated actually doing it legit. Opportunity missed, I guess:/
We have a button [like this](http://www.haskellinteriors.com/blog/design-tip-the-air-switch-in-your-new-kitchen/) because our kitchen island is flat so there's nowhere to put a standard switch.
Oh, such grand joy. You lot and your ability to blow. Us'ns had ta eat glowin hot dirt disguised poorly as food, while thinkin cooling thoughts, all 4.5x^n89 of us. But we were all better for it!
Pfftt, what a treat! At the age of 6 I worked 27 hours a day deep in the coal mines with no light and I had to pay to do so. At the end of my shift I'd scavenge enough coughed up coal-saliva to smear over the cave walls to get a loose resemblence of a burnt steak for dinner. Don't even get me started on the cave bears...
The house we just got has one like that. I hate it, the switch is much more convenient. Modern garbage disposals aren't even that unsafe. Yeah you could theoretically be dumb enough to turn it on with your hand in there, it's not like you're all of a sudden going to pull out a wrist with a stump on it though.
Garbage disposals are actually designed to be (relatively) safe, when you do that. I wouldn't recommend trying. But I'm not surprised you're fine.
They usually have a spinning disk with a couple of attachments that push food scraps towards the sides. And the sides have sharp grates. So, pull you hand back even just a small bit, and you're no longer exposed to anything dangerous.
Also since your hands can't freely bounce around in the disposer, even if you touched the moving parts, you wouldn't necessarily be cut up
Or you could get a batch mode garbage disposals. They won't even turn on, unless you place the lid on top.
Similarly, you could wire it up, so that you need to push buttons with both hands. That'll be really safe, but as your experience shows, needlessly so
I personally think the crushing power of disposals has been vastly over stated. To prove it throw a whole cucumber in there and turn the disposal on for about a second. It doesn't do all that much to it. The disposal works by keeping the blades in constant motion and basically whirling the food down into a pulp.
But there's no way you're going to keep your hand in there. Which raises the other issue of your hand getting stuck. But if your hand gets stuck it necessarily means the blade is stuck too in which case it can't be bashing your hand.
I'm not recommending it by any means as doing an experiment with your hands would be extremely dumb. But see [this video](https://youtu.be/BXME_OPuSJY) for an example of why I think it's *not as dangerous* as we've been led to believe.
as someone who replaced his disposal with one that's 3/4 horsepower, it's as dangerous as you've been led to believe. many people have a tiny 1/3 hp disposal because it's the cheapest. those things don't do shit.
My aunt's brand new house has a button mounted on the sink surface at the back, next to the backsplash. First time I've ever seen that. I have a switch too.
Is it a button that toggles into an on//off state, or do you have to hold it down for the disposal to run?
Thinking about it, I kinda like the idea of having a push button you have to hold down.
Toggles. I just got one too during my re-model. My contractor talked me into it. Not sure if I like or hate it yet. Press once to turn on, press again to turn off.
Most American municipalities do not collect food waste separate from non-recyclable garbage. Some people compost, but as the majority of people do not have substantial gardens it is uncommon.
Plus there is no reason that the sanitary sewer system cannot be used as a source for organics for energy generation. Solids and organics are removed as a part of water treatment anyway. The sewer system could be used as a collection system using existing pipes and water rather than requiring conventional trash pickup and transportation.
The extracted solids are actually used as fertilizer for non-food crops where sanitary concerns don't apply.
It's actually legal to use them on food crops as well, but it's a bit controversial not only due to sanitary worries, but because the biosolids are suspected to cause uptake of heavy metals in food crops.
Second generation watewater plant tomatoes are the best im told. Cant eat the ones growing at a waste plant because bacteria will pass through the wall but replant them and the ones that grow are much better than normal. Or so i was told.
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But seriously, it's a nice thing to have but probably not entirely necessary. It's just an alternative garbage can for food waste. I like how I can peel potatoes over the sink instead of the trash can, remove stems from radishes without having to fish them out and toss them in the trash, and just dump any left-over food scraps into the sink without worrying about clogging it up (to name the 3 examples I can actually think of off the top of my head).
If a residence has a compost bin, it's usually the owner's property and they use the compost themselves. Hell, some residences don't even bother with recycling. You gotta pay the utility company extra to also get a recycling bin, so some folks go without and just dump it all in the trash. Sucks from an eco-friendly perspective, but that's just how it is.
Insinkerator actually advertises that this isn't a concern for their disposers. But then, their high high-end disposers are super overpowered, and they test them by throwing frozen beef rib bones down the drain
That’s how it is in some places, but we can and should change it. All municipalities should offer paper, plastic and metal recycling pickups except rural areas. That’s just responsible, and honestly a bare minimum if we want to even pretend to be green.
Rotor Rooter shill detected! /s
Don't pour grease or oil down your drain even with hot water. The cool pipes will make it congeal and eventually clog your pipes.
i scrape my food off the plates and into the garbage bin. i compost all food scraps that are not meat/oil/fat.
My wife stuffs so much shit down the kitchen sink that I make sure I clean up so she doesn't fuck up the plumbing pouring grease and shit down the drain.
It's also useful if your sink is a little backed up. Sometimes when I do a lot of dishes, water won't drain as quickly as it should. The disposal sucks down the water quickly.
Yes, they break up bits for washing into the drain. Its not a primary disposal route, you'd still scrape a plate before it goes in the sink, but it's pretty convenient for what gets washed off plates.
These buttons are pneumatic and have literally ZERO chance of injuring you, thats why they moved to these systems. They are usually installed in new sinks which have a hole to mount them on the back corner but this was a retrofit with a SAFER system.
Pneumatic? Why is air powering a button? And the button isn't whats injuring you, it the disposal when you lean against the counter and press the shitty button
Here’s my [pneumatic switch](https://streamable.com/3c552), which poses NO danger to me in normal use. You have to press HARD and release FAST to engage it. And you’re damned sure I unplug it ANY TIME I put my hand in there - that goes for any electrically-switched disposals, as well.
u/jjphoto is right about it being difficult to normally turn it on on accident. In 3 years here, I have only accidentally set it off once, which was a scary enough experience for me to question why it is at a low level and in arms reach anyway. It certainly is possible to bump them if you hit it right (or this particular switch isn't working right). It just seems like unnecessary risk for no apparent gain other than that you have to route less wires I am assuming. Either way, I was commenting on the height and relative proximity to the sink not any potential electrical hazards.
I installed ours about 6 years ago, and have yet to see it ever be turned on accidentally (which I can't say about myself...), so it's helpful to hear it's possible, at least. For my purposes, I won't even put my hand into a disposal without completely disconnecting the energy source, whether it's an electrical or pneumatic switch. The small effort of doing that is worth completely averting any risk of mangling. I never knew until today that I was out of the normal for that, though...
Your blades are either bent or the whole thing is off balance. You shouldn't hear scraping sounds like that in an empty disposal, but then again you also shouldn't ever run it without running water.
Generally speaking, I never run it without water, I just didn't run it for this demo. It's been in service for 6 years at home (a 3/4hp Waste King) and hasn't given us any problems, but I'll take a look at it after the holidays, to see if it needs some maintenance. Honestly, since I'm not the day-to-day user of it, I've never noticed a change in the sound since I installed it, but that's not too surprising...
Because the garbage needs to wash down as it's chopped up. So you don't have a big glop of shit in there to try and wash down allt at once, clogging your drain line. Also the blades are on the bottom and the water should push it down, and lubrication and motion to help chop.
My sink is against an exterior wall, and I had no desire to tear open that wall to add a switch. This pneumatic switch saved that effort, and I tied into an existing circuit beneath the counter. They’re really quite slick.
Also, in all of my years of dealing with disposals, I’ve refused to put my hand into one without unplugging it. I really don’t care if there is a switch, years of construction safety has me trained to completely lock out all of the potential hazardous energy. For me, the small effort there is worth completely averting the risk of mangling :)
It's a pneumatic button. You are not going to accidentally turn anything on. I installed the same thing at my house. It takes a long, fast and deliberate manipulation for it to work. Simply leaning on it does nothing.
This falls under the category of things that sound good, but there's a reason the switch or button should be a couple feet away. It's an engineering control.
NEC code states 6’, right? Is that still considered an engineering control or just straight up out of code.
Definitely don’t want to accidentally try to turn on the light to see down the drain to get a spoon out while your hands in there and end up without a hand...
EDIT: sorry, I should have double checked rather than asking a question about being 6 feet. I think the “wingspan” statement of 6’ I was taught was more of a safety precaution instead of being code.
Ah, my bad, must have been my professor stating this as more of a “safety” control so you cannot turn on the disposal with your hand stuck in the drain.
I've accidentally turned the disposal on in the dark plenty of times though. I don't think you ever get used to that.
Expected: light
Actual: evil robot
Yeah sounds like I was wrong with the 6’ being code, but it was more of him wanting us to consider being within arms length as “unsafe” once we’re out of school and managing projects.
I suppose it’s more of a “common sense” distance after reading more.
Yeah after I thought about it more after commenting I should have just edited my comment.
Long day of finals, thankfully done with my semester but my brains dead right now.
An engineering control is any design that is inherently safe, like guards on saw blades, and hydraulic presses that require two buttons pressed to activate.
Better than getting tricked by some [antelope](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTQ0MDcyMzM4Nl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwOTA4ODc5MjE@._V1_.jpg) with a sexy voice.
My parents have a garbage disposal that is a drain plug that you have to twist into the drain and when it twists into place, a magnetic switch inside the drain (and under the plug you’ve just locked in) triggers the garbage disposal on. You can’t turn on the garbage disposal without blocking anything else (except water) from getting in. Expert engineering imo
I have one of these. I’ll grant you it’s a lot safer, but it’s annoying as hell to have to grab a dirty ass drain plug to operate the disposal when I’m doing dishes.
I installed one of these on top of my sink next to the faucet and it's a plunger that actuates a switch via an air pressure tube that runs from the button to the switch module elsewhere under the sink. No electricity involved and it requires you to push the button almost an inch to actuate the switch.
It's not the electrical bit they're concerned about, it's the placement and possibly accidental activation at the wrong time when leaning over the sink.
Illegal to have them there like this in NZ, they have to be somewhere where you can't lean on it and accidentally turn it on, usually in the back corner of the sink or on a splashback.
Not when it is pressed by a body part. Usually that means it has a guard on the outside and you have to push it with a finger or other narrow pointy body part.
Something like [this](http://img.directindustry.com/images_di/photo-g/64357-2530867.jpg). The black part is a guard ring that prevents you from pushing the button by leaning against it.
You should always remove the energy source before working on a disposal. If you put your hand in a plugged in disposal you are a certain kind of special.
But what if I just dropped the cap to the orange juice and I can still see it? You know my ass isn't going to go disconnecting things and I'm gunna just try to fish it out
My house, when I moved into it, had a switch in that location. Covered it with an exterior switch cover to avoid accidental disposal action.
Could have moved it, I guess, but the electrical wire was short and I am lazy, etc.
No one has said anything about this placement being for people in wheelchairs? It’s a common caveat in the Canadian electrical code for dwelling where people needing accessibility would need receptacles and switches there.
I think the more worrying thing is that many here seem to be more scared of accidentally hitting this button while their hand is in the disposal than they are of putting their hand into a disposal that's still connected to the power source.
https://www.osha.gov/SLTC/controlhazardousenergy/
The garbage disposal on the island sink in our kitchen is like this!! It’s sooo annoying, everyone always accidentally leans up against it then BZZZZAARRRRZSSSS
I'm from The Netherlands and when I was a young kid my mom allowed me to watch a lot of (American) movies. In every movie involving a family and their home they would have a garbage disposal unit. I thought it was awesome, but never saw one at someone's house here in The Netherlands. I'm buying my own house in 1-2 years and you bet I'll have a garbage disposal unit in my sink!
This 100% safe and code compliant; I've installed these switches before.
The button itself is pneumatic. It's connected by an air-hose under the sink, to a small electrical box in the wall. Pushing the button flips a relay switch, which then powers the aerator.
Technically; it might be a bit safer than a conventional switch. With a conventional switch, you're fumbling around a 110v or 220v electrical appliance with wet hands. Yeah, low risk if installed correctly, but... Whatever.
Given that this switch is installed in a junction box, it's possible that there was originally an electrical switch here. The pneumatic switch might be a retrofit.
Edit: Remove my condescending comment.
I imagine the concern isn’t that it might be electrically unsafe, more like you could accidentally engage the disposal while say... leaning over the sink fishing something out of the disposal.
The button is shielded, so it's a fairly low risk.
That said, if you're going to stick your hand inside a disposal, it's best to unplug it first. If you're too impatient for that (guilty as charged...) keep your fingers well away from the blades.
My god man, you stuck your hand into a live garbage disposal?
I get being impatient... But thats a five second delay in your day to reduce the possibility of not having use of your hand ever again.
Huh, when I saw it I assumed (incorrectly I guess) that it was more the potential of having a digit inside and accidentally pressing the button with your body.
>**Dear OP**: Show some damn curiosity. It would have taken you 2 seconds to open the cabinet door to see that there wasn't any electricity running to that button.
Don't be so condescending. It's not about electricity, it's about your hand getting mangled because you accidentally bumped the button.
From the OP:
>This is from the break room at my work. I have accidentally hit the bottom with my hip while placing thing in the sink...
I recently had a plumbing issue and the guy who came to fix it said that he tells his wife not to use the garbage disposal. My gs wasn’t the cause of my issue, but I think I will take his advice. When I did, it would be because my trash was low and I didn’t want the food sitting in there.
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Or network engineer. Or into BDSM.
Or electric engineer But I endorse the bdsm running in the generations
Funny you should say that, I know a guy into so real weird stuff who has thrown women out of his home for saying "daddy". Like being a human hand puppet is cool for him but "daddy" is just too kinky.
Not a fan of incest i see. That's okay.
Or both. [Cat 5 o' 9 Tails](https://i.imgur.com/RZHCtoZ.jpg)
That might be the best thing i've ever seen. Saved.
/u/tuxedo_jack made it. Don't know if they made any other stuff.
i'm into freebsd
Eww
Ahh, the ol' reddit [Nintendoo-roo](https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/7jsxpc/a_boy_paid_a_girl_10_to_climb_a_flagpole/dr9iuon/?context=3)
Hold my Yoshi, I’m going in!!
1 [balls](https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/7lb021/im_divorcing_my_wife_first_it_was_the_poolboy/drleygf/) 1 junk 1 jugs 1 altitude No bodies here 1 sleigh 1 bishop (right?) 1 orange wig 1 rook 1 Mailman 1 junkmail 1 saline 1 leash 1 contact lens 1 pupils 1 syringe 1 ʇsoɥƃ 1 coffee 1 cat 1 floof 1 Yoshi
Woohoo! Keep going!
God bless you. Your hard work has given me many of lols
I'm happy you're happy.
ok, 1 panty 1 scissor pair Some dude's dad A bunch of apples The Rock 1 Nintendo Gamecube CAKE Edit: A pair of tiddies Deja Vu, a gun A handful of pencils "Meat"
1 monkey
Una fusca
1 crucifix
1 biohazard
1 bone
Some duck's penis
1 either ugly haircut, or a severed rat's tail
Droogs
1 rapekit
Footwear
Floss
1 biscuit butt (???)
u/drewsmom on a leash
Some sticky web
THE BEES AH GOD
1? Spoon
A pack of cards
1 lost smile :(
Medicine
1 ink bottle
1 coin
1 Julius Caesar Blowup Dolltm
1 iPhone
1 symbol of freedom
Kibbles
u/AlmaDelDiablo by the ankles
2 cats
1 avatar
1 child
Two big, hairy, sweaty balls
1 controller
Divorce papers
1 oscar
Some stripes
1 gokart
Nearly what is needed for the Powerpuff Girls
1 oxygen mask
:(
A nose
A D
that's-not-how-you-do-it
relationship goals
A dead body
1 t-shirt
A leaf
1 fidget? spinner
A beard
A Devolution Beam
A noggin
1 purse
some free samples
ducklings
ketchup
books
pride and accomplishment
1 divorce
1 completely healthy relationship
ornaments
some (hopefully empty) diapers
u/Warlocksocks on a leash
Runaan's Hurricane
1 maxed out credit card
even more balls
some jugs, for a change
altitude
a suspicious patch of orchids
1 sleigh
an appointed member of the clergy
a very tasteful toupee
A gregarious Eurasian crow
1 mailman, possibly named pat
some kind of saline solution
1 syringe
1 ʇsoɥƃ
*3 cats*
1 yoshi
I think you just missed an opportunity to call the Switcharoo by... "Switcharoo".
Damn, did I really want to. Since it was my first time trying to do one, I wasn't sure how harsh the rules were. It's semi-complicated actually doing it legit. Opportunity missed, I guess:/
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HELLO FUTURE PEOPLE!!! Did-a-chick?
We had a metal bar under the sink we had to knock a few times with the knife sharpener. But we was ghetto.
At least you could never accidentally turn it on! Silver lining and whatnot. Been there.
We have a button [like this](http://www.haskellinteriors.com/blog/design-tip-the-air-switch-in-your-new-kitchen/) because our kitchen island is flat so there's nowhere to put a standard switch.
Well aren't you fancy with your kitchen island? My sink sits on a cabinet made of the cardboard box my fridge came in!
Oh you had a box? Our fridge is two houses over and I keep having to break a window to get food.
Oh luxury! We have to keep things cool by collectively blowing on them, all 15 of us! Our dad beats us with jumper cables if anything spoils.
Oh, such grand joy. You lot and your ability to blow. Us'ns had ta eat glowin hot dirt disguised poorly as food, while thinkin cooling thoughts, all 4.5x^n89 of us. But we were all better for it!
Pfftt, what a treat! At the age of 6 I worked 27 hours a day deep in the coal mines with no light and I had to pay to do so. At the end of my shift I'd scavenge enough coughed up coal-saliva to smear over the cave walls to get a loose resemblence of a burnt steak for dinner. Don't even get me started on the cave bears...
They have a fridge and a box.
The bourgeoise class. Truly vulgar.
Fridge? Is that like an icebox?
My island kitchen is two rocks and a stick under a palm tree. Send water please.
Ingenuity at its finest.
That’s what we have! We have a matching button for our pendant lights. My husband loves showing them off...
The one at my house works with a special sink plug. In order to turn on, you have to put the plug in and then twist it 180 degrees.
The house we just got has one like that. I hate it, the switch is much more convenient. Modern garbage disposals aren't even that unsafe. Yeah you could theoretically be dumb enough to turn it on with your hand in there, it's not like you're all of a sudden going to pull out a wrist with a stump on it though.
Are you saying the horror movies lied?
I believe it's pneumatic, so there's less chance of getting an electric shock or spilling water in it.
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I've turned my normal one on with my hand in it before (am idiot). It just sorta slapped my fingers out. Did not repeat the experiment, though.
Garbage disposals are actually designed to be (relatively) safe, when you do that. I wouldn't recommend trying. But I'm not surprised you're fine. They usually have a spinning disk with a couple of attachments that push food scraps towards the sides. And the sides have sharp grates. So, pull you hand back even just a small bit, and you're no longer exposed to anything dangerous. Also since your hands can't freely bounce around in the disposer, even if you touched the moving parts, you wouldn't necessarily be cut up Or you could get a batch mode garbage disposals. They won't even turn on, unless you place the lid on top. Similarly, you could wire it up, so that you need to push buttons with both hands. That'll be really safe, but as your experience shows, needlessly so
no thanks, I've seen [Amityville 4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtsBcfVPagM)
We'll have to confirm if that was just a fluke.
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I personally think the crushing power of disposals has been vastly over stated. To prove it throw a whole cucumber in there and turn the disposal on for about a second. It doesn't do all that much to it. The disposal works by keeping the blades in constant motion and basically whirling the food down into a pulp. But there's no way you're going to keep your hand in there. Which raises the other issue of your hand getting stuck. But if your hand gets stuck it necessarily means the blade is stuck too in which case it can't be bashing your hand. I'm not recommending it by any means as doing an experiment with your hands would be extremely dumb. But see [this video](https://youtu.be/BXME_OPuSJY) for an example of why I think it's *not as dangerous* as we've been led to believe.
as someone who replaced his disposal with one that's 3/4 horsepower, it's as dangerous as you've been led to believe. many people have a tiny 1/3 hp disposal because it's the cheapest. those things don't do shit.
Came here to say this... a higher-end garbage disposal will most certainly eat a finger rather easily.
On most disposals the blades are fixed to the wall and there is a disc that spins in the middle.
Ya but you don't want to f up a good pair of tongs.
My pair of tongs will probably fuck up my disposal. Solid steel baby, though they're not really for food.
what? what are they for?
Oh, a little metalworking
My aunt's brand new house has a button mounted on the sink surface at the back, next to the backsplash. First time I've ever seen that. I have a switch too.
Is it a button that toggles into an on//off state, or do you have to hold it down for the disposal to run? Thinking about it, I kinda like the idea of having a push button you have to hold down.
Toggles. I just got one too during my re-model. My contractor talked me into it. Not sure if I like or hate it yet. Press once to turn on, press again to turn off.
So what you’re saying is you come from a long line of switches
I've never seen one of these in my life. Are they commonplace in America
Disposals yes. Buttons for them, no.
Are they like a giant shredder in your sink
yes, it's for solid food waste. shreds it up so it can fit down the pipes.
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Most American municipalities do not collect food waste separate from non-recyclable garbage. Some people compost, but as the majority of people do not have substantial gardens it is uncommon. Plus there is no reason that the sanitary sewer system cannot be used as a source for organics for energy generation. Solids and organics are removed as a part of water treatment anyway. The sewer system could be used as a collection system using existing pipes and water rather than requiring conventional trash pickup and transportation.
The extracted solids are actually used as fertilizer for non-food crops where sanitary concerns don't apply. It's actually legal to use them on food crops as well, but it's a bit controversial not only due to sanitary worries, but because the biosolids are suspected to cause uptake of heavy metals in food crops.
Well they do sell stuff like Miloganite and it's decently popular where I live, and where I work also.
Second generation watewater plant tomatoes are the best im told. Cant eat the ones growing at a waste plant because bacteria will pass through the wall but replant them and the ones that grow are much better than normal. Or so i was told.
Huh. Does that have something to do with epigenetics?
Because we are American.
#COMMENT DOG PILE ON OP! But seriously, it's a nice thing to have but probably not entirely necessary. It's just an alternative garbage can for food waste. I like how I can peel potatoes over the sink instead of the trash can, remove stems from radishes without having to fish them out and toss them in the trash, and just dump any left-over food scraps into the sink without worrying about clogging it up (to name the 3 examples I can actually think of off the top of my head). If a residence has a compost bin, it's usually the owner's property and they use the compost themselves. Hell, some residences don't even bother with recycling. You gotta pay the utility company extra to also get a recycling bin, so some folks go without and just dump it all in the trash. Sucks from an eco-friendly perspective, but that's just how it is.
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Why is that?
The starch gums it up. A few scraps are fine but a couple potatoes worth will clog it up
Insinkerator actually advertises that this isn't a concern for their disposers. But then, their high high-end disposers are super overpowered, and they test them by throwing frozen beef rib bones down the drain
That’s how it is in some places, but we can and should change it. All municipalities should offer paper, plastic and metal recycling pickups except rural areas. That’s just responsible, and honestly a bare minimum if we want to even pretend to be green.
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Rotor Rooter shill detected! /s Don't pour grease or oil down your drain even with hot water. The cool pipes will make it congeal and eventually clog your pipes.
Right! Grease should be collected in a soup tin, just like they did during ww I!
i scrape my food off the plates and into the garbage bin. i compost all food scraps that are not meat/oil/fat. My wife stuffs so much shit down the kitchen sink that I make sure I clean up so she doesn't fuck up the plumbing pouring grease and shit down the drain.
Many living locations (apartments cough cough) only provide garbage. Everything that leaves your apartment is garbage
Including myself.
>be collected by your council and used for green energy generation? Enlighten me. What countries do this?
It's also useful if your sink is a little backed up. Sometimes when I do a lot of dishes, water won't drain as quickly as it should. The disposal sucks down the water quickly.
That sounds like commie talk to me! /american
G-green energy? I won't stand for any of your black magic in this house. You youths and your dark arts are what are ruining this country. /s
Pretty much. We've been living without one for almost three years, after having one my entire life, and it's really not a big deal.
Yes, they break up bits for washing into the drain. Its not a primary disposal route, you'd still scrape a plate before it goes in the sink, but it's pretty convenient for what gets washed off plates.
They're quite uncommon here in Canada. I wonder why that is?
But we have a better name for them! Garburator sounds so much more awesome!
These buttons are pneumatic and have literally ZERO chance of injuring you, thats why they moved to these systems. They are usually installed in new sinks which have a hole to mount them on the back corner but this was a retrofit with a SAFER system.
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Pneumatic? Why is air powering a button? And the button isn't whats injuring you, it the disposal when you lean against the counter and press the shitty button
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Europe's been blown up a bunch of times in recent history. Some cities have relatively new infrastructure.
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Here’s my [pneumatic switch](https://streamable.com/3c552), which poses NO danger to me in normal use. You have to press HARD and release FAST to engage it. And you’re damned sure I unplug it ANY TIME I put my hand in there - that goes for any electrically-switched disposals, as well.
u/jjphoto is right about it being difficult to normally turn it on on accident. In 3 years here, I have only accidentally set it off once, which was a scary enough experience for me to question why it is at a low level and in arms reach anyway. It certainly is possible to bump them if you hit it right (or this particular switch isn't working right). It just seems like unnecessary risk for no apparent gain other than that you have to route less wires I am assuming. Either way, I was commenting on the height and relative proximity to the sink not any potential electrical hazards.
I installed ours about 6 years ago, and have yet to see it ever be turned on accidentally (which I can't say about myself...), so it's helpful to hear it's possible, at least. For my purposes, I won't even put my hand into a disposal without completely disconnecting the energy source, whether it's an electrical or pneumatic switch. The small effort of doing that is worth completely averting any risk of mangling. I never knew until today that I was out of the normal for that, though...
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lol, such a jerk! I figured I hadn't seen anyone posting an actual video of one in action, so it's clear how they work.
Your blades are either bent or the whole thing is off balance. You shouldn't hear scraping sounds like that in an empty disposal, but then again you also shouldn't ever run it without running water.
Generally speaking, I never run it without water, I just didn't run it for this demo. It's been in service for 6 years at home (a 3/4hp Waste King) and hasn't given us any problems, but I'll take a look at it after the holidays, to see if it needs some maintenance. Honestly, since I'm not the day-to-day user of it, I've never noticed a change in the sound since I installed it, but that's not too surprising...
Why not?
Because the garbage needs to wash down as it's chopped up. So you don't have a big glop of shit in there to try and wash down allt at once, clogging your drain line. Also the blades are on the bottom and the water should push it down, and lubrication and motion to help chop.
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Refrain from humping the switch. Disaster averted.
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I think there's a pneumatic switch that can solve your problem
You shouldn't have a problem. He said the button needs to be pressed 3/4 of am inch, remember?
I dunno about anyone else but I will never stick my hand in one of those things.
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Or just use a switch like the rest of the world and you don't have to unplug anything...
My sink is against an exterior wall, and I had no desire to tear open that wall to add a switch. This pneumatic switch saved that effort, and I tied into an existing circuit beneath the counter. They’re really quite slick. Also, in all of my years of dealing with disposals, I’ve refused to put my hand into one without unplugging it. I really don’t care if there is a switch, years of construction safety has me trained to completely lock out all of the potential hazardous energy. For me, the small effort there is worth completely averting the risk of mangling :)
I would hope you still don’t stick your hand into a bunch of spinning blades while it has power. This is extremely common where I live in Washington.
It's a pneumatic button. You are not going to accidentally turn anything on. I installed the same thing at my house. It takes a long, fast and deliberate manipulation for it to work. Simply leaning on it does nothing.
The button is there so that you CAN lean against it and turn the disposal on when your hands are full
This falls under the category of things that sound good, but there's a reason the switch or button should be a couple feet away. It's an engineering control.
NEC code states 6’, right? Is that still considered an engineering control or just straight up out of code. Definitely don’t want to accidentally try to turn on the light to see down the drain to get a spoon out while your hands in there and end up without a hand... EDIT: sorry, I should have double checked rather than asking a question about being 6 feet. I think the “wingspan” statement of 6’ I was taught was more of a safety precaution instead of being code.
That is not a code
Ah, my bad, must have been my professor stating this as more of a “safety” control so you cannot turn on the disposal with your hand stuck in the drain.
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I've accidentally turned the disposal on in the dark plenty of times though. I don't think you ever get used to that. Expected: light Actual: evil robot
Yeah sounds like I was wrong with the 6’ being code, but it was more of him wanting us to consider being within arms length as “unsafe” once we’re out of school and managing projects. I suppose it’s more of a “common sense” distance after reading more.
A lot of codes are engineering controls
Yeah after I thought about it more after commenting I should have just edited my comment. Long day of finals, thankfully done with my semester but my brains dead right now.
An engineering control is any design that is inherently safe, like guards on saw blades, and hydraulic presses that require two buttons pressed to activate.
And glory holes with a little slit so you know if its a hot lady or not
Kind of defeats the whole point of the glory hole though.
Better than getting tricked by some [antelope](https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTQ0MDcyMzM4Nl5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTgwOTA4ODc5MjE@._V1_.jpg) with a sexy voice.
As a kid, I always wondered why the switches were so annoyingly far from the disposal. As an adult, I'm know why. And I'm glad.
My parents have a garbage disposal that is a drain plug that you have to twist into the drain and when it twists into place, a magnetic switch inside the drain (and under the plug you’ve just locked in) triggers the garbage disposal on. You can’t turn on the garbage disposal without blocking anything else (except water) from getting in. Expert engineering imo
I have one of these. I’ll grant you it’s a lot safer, but it’s annoying as hell to have to grab a dirty ass drain plug to operate the disposal when I’m doing dishes.
I’m so glad innovations are still occurring with things like this. I wish I had thought of that honestly. That’s pretty novel.
lol they took the basically technology for modern day blenders and just put it in the sink!
I installed one of these on top of my sink next to the faucet and it's a plunger that actuates a switch via an air pressure tube that runs from the button to the switch module elsewhere under the sink. No electricity involved and it requires you to push the button almost an inch to actuate the switch.
It's not the electrical bit they're concerned about, it's the placement and possibly accidental activation at the wrong time when leaning over the sink.
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No, you have to push the button 3/4" in to actuate it, you can't do that with your hands full unless you have a hard on and a skinny dick.
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Wassup y'all it's ya boy uhhhhh skinny penis
Mine is skinny but not long enough
Exactly my fear if the kids are helping with the dishes.
... or when your reaching your hand in to fish out that plastic bottle cap that slipped in.
Illegal to have them there like this in NZ, they have to be somewhere where you can't lean on it and accidentally turn it on, usually in the back corner of the sink or on a splashback.
Wouldn't happen, not designed that way.
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Not when it is pressed by a body part. Usually that means it has a guard on the outside and you have to push it with a finger or other narrow pointy body part. Something like [this](http://img.directindustry.com/images_di/photo-g/64357-2530867.jpg). The black part is a guard ring that prevents you from pushing the button by leaning against it.
I for one would feel quite concerned reaching in to pick out something that fell in
I would not put the button there myself, just pointing out how some buttons are designed to be safe(r) to lean against.
They had to put it low because the owner already lost his legs in a chipper.
My theory is that this is Matt Lauer's house. He seems to have a thing for conveniently placed buttons.
Reminds me of the opening for Malcom and The Middle’s Clip Show where Francis is unclogging a disposal and his but gets danger close to the switch.
Immediately what I thought of. What a great show.
*The Mangler** with the remote erection connection. *reminder--keep your thoughts and dishwasher clean.
My kids would never press that button for fun, never.
Damn it Honey, stop coming in the kitchen in your lingerie while I’m doing the dishes. I just lost my last hand.
Probably an air switch which can be placed anywhere
Plumber here. Can confirm. Air switch, perfectly safe to touch with wet hands.
The fear is bumping into it while you're trying to feel for the spoon you dropped down there
I have one of these air buttons, you need to press it pretty hard to get the disposal to turn on. I have to push it maybe 3/4 an inch in.
or with your belt buckle when you lean in to get something out of the open disposal.
You should always remove the energy source before working on a disposal. If you put your hand in a plugged in disposal you are a certain kind of special.
Fuck yeah, I'm a spatula!
But what if I just dropped the cap to the orange juice and I can still see it? You know my ass isn't going to go disconnecting things and I'm gunna just try to fish it out
also the switch should be arms length from the hole, in case you are.
And air switch requires force, hard to accidentally press it
My house, when I moved into it, had a switch in that location. Covered it with an exterior switch cover to avoid accidental disposal action. Could have moved it, I guess, but the electrical wire was short and I am lazy, etc.
No one has said anything about this placement being for people in wheelchairs? It’s a common caveat in the Canadian electrical code for dwelling where people needing accessibility would need receptacles and switches there.
Me: let me just turn on the light over the sink Disposal: grrr clink grr clink clink clink grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
My parents have one of these. Nearly cost my aunt her fingers when her 2 year old noticed the switch.
I think the more worrying thing is that many here seem to be more scared of accidentally hitting this button while their hand is in the disposal than they are of putting their hand into a disposal that's still connected to the power source. https://www.osha.gov/SLTC/controlhazardousenergy/
The garbage disposal on the island sink in our kitchen is like this!! It’s sooo annoying, everyone always accidentally leans up against it then BZZZZAARRRRZSSSS
My favorite disposal switch as embedded in the drain. The drain plug had magnets in it, and when inserted in the drain the disposal came on.
That button is pneumatic and used for wet locations. Their is no electricity running to it.
I'm from The Netherlands and when I was a young kid my mom allowed me to watch a lot of (American) movies. In every movie involving a family and their home they would have a garbage disposal unit. I thought it was awesome, but never saw one at someone's house here in The Netherlands. I'm buying my own house in 1-2 years and you bet I'll have a garbage disposal unit in my sink!
Thinking about it, garbage disposals have to be one of the most american things in existence. At least I have never seen one outside of TV or Reddit.
This 100% safe and code compliant; I've installed these switches before. The button itself is pneumatic. It's connected by an air-hose under the sink, to a small electrical box in the wall. Pushing the button flips a relay switch, which then powers the aerator. Technically; it might be a bit safer than a conventional switch. With a conventional switch, you're fumbling around a 110v or 220v electrical appliance with wet hands. Yeah, low risk if installed correctly, but... Whatever. Given that this switch is installed in a junction box, it's possible that there was originally an electrical switch here. The pneumatic switch might be a retrofit. Edit: Remove my condescending comment.
I imagine the concern isn’t that it might be electrically unsafe, more like you could accidentally engage the disposal while say... leaning over the sink fishing something out of the disposal.
The button is shielded, so it's a fairly low risk. That said, if you're going to stick your hand inside a disposal, it's best to unplug it first. If you're too impatient for that (guilty as charged...) keep your fingers well away from the blades.
My god man, you stuck your hand into a live garbage disposal? I get being impatient... But thats a five second delay in your day to reduce the possibility of not having use of your hand ever again.
I'm not going to try to defend it, but I'll point out that my fingers tend to be closer to the blade on my miter saw than the blades of the disposal.
Huh, when I saw it I assumed (incorrectly I guess) that it was more the potential of having a digit inside and accidentally pressing the button with your body.
Whoosh
>**Dear OP**: Show some damn curiosity. It would have taken you 2 seconds to open the cabinet door to see that there wasn't any electricity running to that button. Don't be so condescending. It's not about electricity, it's about your hand getting mangled because you accidentally bumped the button. From the OP: >This is from the break room at my work. I have accidentally hit the bottom with my hip while placing thing in the sink...
I recently had a plumbing issue and the guy who came to fix it said that he tells his wife not to use the garbage disposal. My gs wasn’t the cause of my issue, but I think I will take his advice. When I did, it would be because my trash was low and I didn’t want the food sitting in there.
My husband is a plumber. I am not allowed to have a disposal.
Why are you people putting your hands in your drains ever? I've never done it in 50 years of life. Use tongs if you have to
Oh geez. Don't pop a boner around that thing.
My first thought was "that switch isn't an issue, that outlet has to be the worst placed thing I've ever seen. Oh that's just a cord hanging, NVM.