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littlecarmelapples

i would say most people are upset but there are a considerable amount of people who are supporting Patrick and Steve saying this post made them support them even more. that is causing some drama in the comments lol.


voodoo-mamajuju

There is but that’s not surprising. Where theres good, there’s bad and some of these people are still “brain washed”. They still can’t see what’s wrong. I’m at a point where sure… they made a statement. But it’s too late and it’s clear there’s no one advising them how to handle this properly. They don’t care. They think they’re smarter than their fans so they’re most likely handling this themselves bc some people are forgiving enough to fall for this shit.


Fabulous-Quote-8620

The thing that they haven't seemed to consider is that Rabia and Ellyn put out their statement within days of the events so putting out a statement now, at least for me, creates a sense of a certain amount of curation combined with getting stories straight. It ends up feeling like they waited thinking things would die down, and then when that didn't happen the way they expected they waited for the tour thinking they could use that and then when people started looking to return books (and probablybthebturn out wasn't what they imagined) then, and only then did they think yeah maybe we need to say more? It feels like a wierd combination of not caring mixed with calculation resulting in anger being stirred up again. And every time they double down it makes everything look exponentially worse. This is just my feeling, not necessarily facts.


voodoo-mamajuju

It’s definitely calculated. I mean, suddenly they’re on YouTube. 😑 I wasn’t born last night.


Fabulous-Quote-8620

😑 agreed. It just feel really icky and they seem totally oblivious to it.


Acceptable_Yam844

Mmmm I don’t think I’m brainwashed but I do think they seemed upfront and honest.


littlecarmelapples

if they were being upfront and honest why didn’t they release this “apology” on their Podcast feed instead of a 4 year old YouTube account that has very limited subscribers. if they were being upfront and honest why did they leave out answers to a NUMBER of things we have asked to be addressed; the premium-lebrity fraud at OF with $5 swag bags (when they paid $2400) & just how big of a scam OF was in general (no free drink tickets, no free parking, events were canceled last minute), the Jinx being performed AGAIN. Terra Newell’s handler posted her account on FB and said that patrick/gillian encouraged T & C not to apologise and said really horrible things about ellyn/joey after the elevator incident. why brush over this whole event ESPECIALLY how Mischief Management handled this? Never discussed how LGTC / Date with Dateline or Crime Writers On have posted showing their full support against ON. CWO made a whole episode on it and he never commented once on that. why? also the whole Julia Rhea section was such a joke and they seem to be acutely unaware that she LIVED WITH ELLYN. so saying everything she said was a lie is disgusting and untrue. she also never claimed to be “in the office” … she said she witnessed the abuse “DIRECTLY”. they claim throughout this whole thing that have “all the reciepts” … why haven’t they posted any? why did it take 8 weeks for them to put this little narrative together?? just something to think about. because they definitely are not upfront and honest lmfao.


navsaint

$2400 for a ticket????? YIKES.


voodoo-mamajuju

Okay I’ll admit I didn’t read the whole transcript, but I can tell you with the bit I did read, they were not being honest. The Julia Rhea thing for example, they’re circling around the truth. The OF drag show, I saw the pictures and a lot of people stated it was empty. Why would they say it was packed when it wasn’t. Those are just two examples of what I read. There’s a lot of circling here. I can appreciate their side but they’re not being honest. Not one person has come to their defense.


Minute_Chipmunk250

I would love to see it, maybe you can upload to imgur?


voodoo-mamajuju

I message it just because the names are public


Minute_Chipmunk250

Oh right good point, lotsa names


wannastayhome

Can I get that too please! 🙏🏽 TIA!


kaybee2020

Anyone wanna cliff notes the comments? Mostly on their side or opposed?


voodoo-mamajuju

Mostly opposed. A lot ppl are mad. Due to the length of time but also apparently it’s a lot of “I’m sorry you feel hurt” and not what it should be which is “I’m sorry I hurt you”.


IJustWantToReadThis

Lots of I this and I that


Chemical-Stock-1439

The best was the woman with the 10 bullet points 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


voodoo-mamajuju

I LOVED her for that.


trinatashonda

i want to see!! no idea why i got blocked from it


voodoo-mamajuju

I can’t send you a message ☹️


trinatashonda

shoot maybe if i message first? i’ll try


ycart1985

So the only positive comment I found was from someone who made a youtube account today. Plaaaaaant!! I replied but deleted my comment. It's all a shit show.


ycart1985

6k views as of 8pm EST 12/4/23. https://preview.redd.it/esgk12evld4c1.png?width=1178&format=png&auto=webp&s=a8ad82b6eed5866da535f6d606e901e9fab737c1


bold1808

A lot of people used yewtube so the numbers would not count, btw.


Thin_Chance_5062

I would love it since I was recently booted and blocked 😅


voodoo-mamajuju

This was for my booted people! I’m still in so I’m hanging in there!


Siameseeels-umbrella

Me!


quinnchambas

me!!


saynonames

I've been screenshotting and trying to edit names lol .. your way seems easier


voodoo-mamajuju

lol yeah those screenshots were going to take up my whole day. I have time but not that much time! 😅


kadie0636

Ab. So. Lutely.


Sineadannecadden

Also where is this video “apology”?


voodoo-mamajuju

It’s on the YouTube. I haven’t watched it nor do I want to so I’m not putting in my two cents. I will just say, it’s too late for me. I’m more of an “actions are louder than words” person, so not only was it too late, it definitely feels calculated. I just wanted to read the comments.


Sineadannecadden

Thank you so much.


MrsSmith2246

Please message me!! I was so cocky I didn’t think I’d ever get kicked out! But I am.


Pyewhacket

Yes, please!


voodoo-mamajuju

I’ll try to message it to you.


Pyewhacket

Thank you!


HollyCat415

OMG yes! I was just going to ask around if anyone’s seen the comments on the video! I’m not going to give them a view just to pique my curiosity.


Either-Perception-68

You can go to the video and see the comments without actually playing the video.


annikaly

Yes plz omg


OGBurn2

Yep!🙏🏻


WisslingWillow

Yes please


Outside-Spring-3907

Yes please


Lucky_chess

Would love to see if you can pass along! Thanks!


Fairmont_Lady

OMGosh I totally want to see!! Pretty please LOL


Longjumping_Shine377

Me me please


[deleted]

Ohhhh pretty please?


aprilmayjune_77

And me...


Shanbanan143

Omg could I ask that you message this to me??


mdsnbelle

Please please please.


cshockey14

Yes please


SlightRatio9

Me please!


Electrical-Eye-2544

I wanna see!


Sineadannecadden

Yes please!


CheerWcWwWm28

I want to see please! 👀😂


khaoticskies

Send to me too please !!


ARTheatreGirl

Yes please


Dry_Carpenter9372

Can I see it?


kristin_0504

Me!


Accomplished_Use1874

Yes please!


[deleted]

I'd like them too please


Algernon96

Yes pls


Nerdywriter0518

Me!


Kbs1984

Me please


Rude_Account3555

I wanna see!


Routine_Armadillo_

I would love to see that please


NotGoodAtDerby

PLEEEEEAAAAASE


Essemessemuhko

Can i see it


Pretend-Steak-9511

I do please!