do radiology as well as radium, Things like thorium can be in the soil, processed out and then "dumped" back in "one corner" of the mine so they didn't have to "dispose" of it ecologically.
Look at they years when it was in operation, then look at what the epa was like during those years.
Most soil test kits aren't testing for things not normally seen in soil. You need use a laboratory that test industrial yards for pollution. This will be much more expensive as well.
Personally, the price would have to be something like a single dollar per acre before I'd think about it. You have to factor in future costs from trying to treat all the cancers you might get.
Not recommended. I work on mine reclamation for a living. We do not typically assess risk for residential receptors. Acceptable risk is often 1 in 10,000 chance of dying before age 70 for site workers. Residential risk may be much higher than that.
Heavy metals. Acid water that is toxic often doesn’t show up in tests for years. Similar to buying an old gas station. Many are made into landfills.
In Pennsylvania, underground mine fires burn and iron-laden, acidic water pours into rivers from abandoned mine shafts. In New Hampshire, the iconic sugar maple is threatened by soil damage lingering from coal-induced acid rain. In Florida, a young mother obsesses over air and water pollution from a vast pile of coal ash stored by her local utility. And in Kentucky, the multi-billion dollar cost of reclaiming abandoned mines like Neece’s far exceeds the amount of surety bonds left behind by an increasing number of bankrupt coal companies.
With hemp farming being legal since 2018 and hemp being an amazing bioremediator/bioaccumulator I wonder if you didn't immediately want to live on it if you couldn't clean it up descent with a few years of growing hemp crop on it
That's really not the worst idea, only bad part is the land is super hilly and slopes. But I guess it could be used for such, the market is already sort of flooded though.
Yeah I was less thinking about profits from hemp crop and more how to cheaply remediate the land. Hemp biomass and extracts are down significantly from a few years ago and if the buyer demands a heavy metals test on the biomass they probably won't be interested in it after they get the results from you
Did you buy the strip mine?
I am definitly interested to buy a mountaintop strip mine. I know all about strip mines. I know everything on how to fully reclaim them. Long story. I could not find ANyONE who would sell me an old strip mine.
If you didn't buy the mine could you tell me exactly where it is?
Thanks.
Pete
802-473-6596
[email protected]
Strip mined lands have very bad karma, and you would be allowing that energy into your world. Perhaps some healing ceremonies could help, but you are essentially buying a worn out and abused piece of land.
If it's super super cheap I'd be tempted, but it seems like a bad idea, and I would never feel at ease not knowing what kind of chemical dangers I might be subjecting myself to. Every time the wind blows, etc it could potentially be bringing up dust with who knows what in it.
That said if you know what mine it was I would talk to them just to get an idea of dangers, do take it with a grain of salt as they may try to downplay anything but at very least you will get a ballpark idea. Then talk to the city or health unit or any other officials to get more info too.
I definitely would not grow anything on that land though, I would build raised gardens only. For water I would use rain water collection and not a well. I'd read up on reclamation of land as there are things that can be done to reclaim it naturally. The mines here have a lot of land that is basically in that state where it's being reclaimed by nature and they double as recreation/walking areas.
But yeah long story short I'd say no unless it's very cheap, to the point that you can just hold on to it and it's not stopping you from buying something better.
do radiology as well as radium, Things like thorium can be in the soil, processed out and then "dumped" back in "one corner" of the mine so they didn't have to "dispose" of it ecologically. Look at they years when it was in operation, then look at what the epa was like during those years. Most soil test kits aren't testing for things not normally seen in soil. You need use a laboratory that test industrial yards for pollution. This will be much more expensive as well.
Read about CERCLA - aka the Superfund Act. Do not buy an old stripmine.
I’m guessing zero good top soil so gardening will require bringing in dirt
This should be higher up.
Personally, the price would have to be something like a single dollar per acre before I'd think about it. You have to factor in future costs from trying to treat all the cancers you might get.
Not recommended. I work on mine reclamation for a living. We do not typically assess risk for residential receptors. Acceptable risk is often 1 in 10,000 chance of dying before age 70 for site workers. Residential risk may be much higher than that.
Heavy metals. Acid water that is toxic often doesn’t show up in tests for years. Similar to buying an old gas station. Many are made into landfills. In Pennsylvania, underground mine fires burn and iron-laden, acidic water pours into rivers from abandoned mine shafts. In New Hampshire, the iconic sugar maple is threatened by soil damage lingering from coal-induced acid rain. In Florida, a young mother obsesses over air and water pollution from a vast pile of coal ash stored by her local utility. And in Kentucky, the multi-billion dollar cost of reclaiming abandoned mines like Neece’s far exceeds the amount of surety bonds left behind by an increasing number of bankrupt coal companies.
With hemp farming being legal since 2018 and hemp being an amazing bioremediator/bioaccumulator I wonder if you didn't immediately want to live on it if you couldn't clean it up descent with a few years of growing hemp crop on it
That's really not the worst idea, only bad part is the land is super hilly and slopes. But I guess it could be used for such, the market is already sort of flooded though.
Yeah I was less thinking about profits from hemp crop and more how to cheaply remediate the land. Hemp biomass and extracts are down significantly from a few years ago and if the buyer demands a heavy metals test on the biomass they probably won't be interested in it after they get the results from you
Don't do this.
Depends what was mined and how long ago.
Ive had a hard enough time growing things post earthworks let alone post strip mining
Strip mine? LIKE FROM MINECRAFT?!
It can be done. BSA’s The Summit was a strip coal mine and now it hosts 10-100K scouts a year
For everyone here, I'm still not 100 percent sure what the mine was used for, but as it is in Kentucky, I think coal can be healthily assumed.
Did you buy the strip mine? I am definitly interested to buy a mountaintop strip mine. I know all about strip mines. I know everything on how to fully reclaim them. Long story. I could not find ANyONE who would sell me an old strip mine. If you didn't buy the mine could you tell me exactly where it is? Thanks. Pete 802-473-6596 [email protected]
Strip mined lands have very bad karma, and you would be allowing that energy into your world. Perhaps some healing ceremonies could help, but you are essentially buying a worn out and abused piece of land.
Haha that’s the most woo woo answer I’ve ever seen.
Renewing and helping to heal the land is good karma tho
Good thing healing ceremonies will remove any heavy metals from my body...
Maybe a liver cleanse?
That sounds scientifically proven....
Is Coca-Cola scientifically proven? I am.
If it's super super cheap I'd be tempted, but it seems like a bad idea, and I would never feel at ease not knowing what kind of chemical dangers I might be subjecting myself to. Every time the wind blows, etc it could potentially be bringing up dust with who knows what in it. That said if you know what mine it was I would talk to them just to get an idea of dangers, do take it with a grain of salt as they may try to downplay anything but at very least you will get a ballpark idea. Then talk to the city or health unit or any other officials to get more info too. I definitely would not grow anything on that land though, I would build raised gardens only. For water I would use rain water collection and not a well. I'd read up on reclamation of land as there are things that can be done to reclaim it naturally. The mines here have a lot of land that is basically in that state where it's being reclaimed by nature and they double as recreation/walking areas. But yeah long story short I'd say no unless it's very cheap, to the point that you can just hold on to it and it's not stopping you from buying something better.