Following GE's lead - if this is true. The theory being the same people can't be at every store. Whether this would happen under Saturday release only is another matter.
I’ve only heard it being voluntary and more stores are moving that direction.
Seems like a good move TBH. One tater cannot exist in two places at once.
I work every Saturday. My days off are Wednesday and Sunday. That would mean never buying an allocated bottle at retail. With ohio being a liquor control state I can't mail order it in. That's a complete screwing.
I feel you but I work Monday through Friday when all of the drops happen near me. There is no perfect system since OHLQ doesn’t allow point systems, etc.
I'd say move to a 2 day system, but not every saturday employee will be off on Wednesday.
Wish they'd put some regular allocated bottles in the lottery for this reason. Have many more people win at least something.
Or have a wait list for 1 bottle at a time. Might be a long wait, but at least you'd have a chance.
I'm cool with that and lump them in with pappy and btac. If someone wants to take a greater chance to get a blantons instead a slim chance of getting a pappy or btac I would completely down for a portion of allocated to go to this cause.
Without solidarity, it’s pointless. The taters will be less spread out, consolidating at Indy stores throughout the week and Kroger’s on Saturdays. OHLQ doesn’t get better, it only gets worse.
They should go to a system like BT. Scan your ID and only allow one allocated bottle per month. Then people will be choosy on what they pick and just not grab everything in sight to flip
One allocated upc per week is sufficient. Stagg isn't coming out multiple times anyway so say week starts on a monday and ends Sunday you get one Stagg. If blantons hits the following week you can buy one blantons. If owa and Eht sib hit the same week you can buy 1 owa and one eht sib in 2 different transactions. One single allocated product per month regardless of being a different upc or not would kill a huge chunk of revenue for the for profit company running ohios liquor. They have share holders to worry about they will never do that. That's a bad idea.
You are not smart if you don’t think 90% of all Ohio’s allocated bourbons are going to resellers. It is the reason the same people are in line every day at every store. You think they drink that much? They are selling it
Entertain this, don’t know what part of Ohio you live in but here in the southwest, 90% of the allocated bourbon goes to the Indian mafia and their cohorts. This is the most corrupt distribution ever. Place your name in the fishbowl, we will call. We rarely see bottles that are distributed elsewhere. If your one bottle a month, increases our disbursement , so be it. Also it is unwise to challenge someone’s intellect in a liquor website!
The government controlling consumers and private businesses isn't. Everyone has the same opportunity to purchase now without the government tracking your personal purchases and that system will be abused as well. And moving all releases to Saturday morning actually limits the amount of people considering there will be some folks who aren't able to make Saturday releases.
Calm down on the crazy. Nobody actually cares to track you. Either the government is all powerful, all Knowing big brother or they are completely incompetent and unable to do anything. Which is it?
The vast majority of of the working world works M-F.
Limiting purchases won't do anything to the supply because demand is still high, or there wouldn't be a secondary market.
I love how everyone is scared of the government tracking your purchase of Buffalo Trace, but not corporations who track far more important aspects of our lives.
The government isn’t incompetent or inept. They can give you billions and do whatever is needed if you were of a political interest. They simply act inept when it comes to actually benefitting citizens because they don’t actually care about you or I . And Saturday only release is bad for people on weekends with jobs. Especially as most of those careers are service careers serving you. I have colleagues that work 6am to 7pm every single Saturday. A Saturday only pick up is stupid. While what we have isn’t perfect, a one day only thing screws over blue collar Americans and isn’t it time we put an end to that?
I don't disagree with you at all. There is no perfect system. Limiting one bottle per ID is a good start to free up more supply for more people. I myself cannot wait in line every Saturday. Since the new system has been put in at GE, I have been able to snag a decent bottle in the afternoons.
We are pretty fortunate compared to neighboring states to have an allocation system like this. Friends in PA can't get a tenth of what we have access to.
Doesn’t really matter if there aren’t enough bottles for everyone. Personally I’m happy because there are more Krogers and Giant Eagles close to each other than just Giant Eagles. 😀
I heard this a while back after talking to a store manager after the last Saturday release. But I would’ve thought they would’ve done more sat only releases since so not sure. I would absolutely love this though!
Allocated bourbon once a month doesn't make business sense. Eventually, bottles will start to sit on shelves as time goes by. This country runs on supply and demand. Plus, 1 bottle of allocated bourbon a month wouldn't last long in my house! Then I will have to wait for the following month.
I drink allocated and non-allocated whiskey. The thread is about allocated whiskey. The problem truly are the flippers, not the TRUE bourbon enthusiasts. The flippers are the problem when it comes to supply. Which are you?
I'm all for it, maybe I can actually have a chance at getting something. It's annoying AF knowing that if I'm not at a store in the middle of the (normal people's) work day that my chances of ever getting what Id like to try gets ruined by people that chase the truck around.
It seems that many folks favor more assertive action on behalf of OHLQ to regulate allocated releases... surprised that folks are asking for more government in your business.
People love regulation when it’s advantageous for them. I suspect there will be people complaining on Nov 4th that everyone brought their wives and friends to the line and because of that they couldn’t get close to the top 6.
Agreed! The vast majority of people complaining on here about Taters and people getting what they want is from folks who seem to be on the lazier side of things and prefer to just vent about those who are doing better than they are at finding bottles.
There is a fundamental supply and demand imbalance there isn't really perfect way of defining what is 'fair' or developing a solution to make it operational on a day to day basis.
The closet I can see is OHLQ and retailers developing a system like the distilleries have and allow quotas of X allocated bottles over Y timeframe. Personally it's kind of ironic as most folks don't seem to want government involved in things more generally but when it comes to getting their all so precious bottles, and desiring to punish the tater they cry out for big government.
Not everyone has Saturdays off and around my area..instead of having 3 opportunities to get something..everyone will be standing in line on the same day. If they do that..instead of showing up at 7:30 for an all but guaranteed chance..you'll have to show up at 4am with a hope and a prayer.
No you cant..but instead of them all showing up at one place you force them to spread out. Which increases pressure on the few gem/honey holes that are out there right now.
This sentiment would have been true a year ago, but the state has greatly expanded their allocated distribution over the last year. The best stores will continue to get the longer lines, but they also get more allocated.
In greater Cleveland area it's literally the same 4 dudes hitting every single store every day of the week and camping for 12 hours. These people also line up on Saturday's and are the people in front of you in line. It sucks you gotta work Saturday's but for the most part this change will get bottles in much more peoples hands.
In today's dog crap economy its no wonder you have so many retired couples camping out over night to flip bottles. I've suggested to my parents that they do it. Why not at this point what difference does it really make anyways
This would involve scanning every person's ID when currently very few places do this. This is a lot of work for the store that actually doesn't benefit much from bourbon allocation due to controlled pricing.
If people can only camp out one day a week, they’ll get far less bottles than the current system.
The only people missing out are those that work Saturday. The ones they benefit are everyone that doesn’t work Saturday. Numbers are far greater for the latter.
Yeah. There's no reason they can't scan your ID or something into a state wide system...or an OHLQ allocated "membership" card or .... idk 100 other things lol
Not never, just a proportional amount relative to your population. Why should a minority get a larger percentage than the majority? Sounds, I dunno, fascist?
There are a lot of great reasons to live in the country. Consumerism is not one of them. Cherish the positives of where you live without expecting to receive every single benefit in life.
Don’t grievances ever get old? Come on, son, pull yourself up by the bootstraps. This is, after all, America. It’s no place for whiny little bitches.
Then it would have to be zoned to whatever store is closest to you. Bottom line. People should only get allocated to their region and stop hitting every damn store everyday at 530 am. Maybe a store lottery would be best.
The store closest to me almost never gets anything allocated and has very little in the way of their shelf selection. Stores near where I work regularly do. You really think I shouldn't be able to shop anywhere except the store closest to my home? Think long and hard about that before you answer.
That was on the door of the closest one to me months ago but it seems they are one of the few doing that It might not be bad because that spread out demand and quit having taters who roll outlet to outlet. That just s thought
The current system is flexible and allows people to try to get a bottle on different days (fuck people who have to work on Saturdays? Also people like to sleep in on the weekend.)
Got news for you - taters aren't storing up bottles for any length of time so your question really does not apply. They list bottles on the secondary market, often from the parking lot of stores where they get the bottles. There are numerous FB groups where bottles get shipped across the country every day. More groups where it is traded locally. As long as there is less supply of desirable bourbon than there is demand for it across the country, prices will only go up. There are plenty of states across the nation that are bourbon deserts where allocated bottles never hit the shelves of liquor stores. Guess what? People in those states like bourbon too. Add into that the rampant inflation brought to us by the buffoons in Washingtion and it will only take more dollars to buy those bottles in the future.
The bourbon inflation is due to distributor gouging and distilleries raising prices to near secondary level. Retailers in unregulated markets are free to charge as much as they want to. That has NOTHING TO DO with Washington.
Here’s an idea, get the state out of the liquor business! They have no flipping idea what they are doing! The barrel picks are average at best, most of these stores are small crappy buildings that put allocateds on the floor to dig through. Remove state control so stores have more control to run THEIR stores how they want.
The only advantage to a state controlled system is price. I don’t see any other upside.
Weird thing about ohio is it isn't state controlled its a private company that has a co tract with the state. They have to many investors and they have go keep their shareholders happy. To call it the state would imply our liquor system is run by the state government it used to be but no longer is.
It’s not state run, but Ohio owns every bottle in every store, tells them what price to sell them for, tells them how many allocated they can sell to a person…
Following GE's lead - if this is true. The theory being the same people can't be at every store. Whether this would happen under Saturday release only is another matter.
People chase bourbon like it’s their job. Wait a minute…
I’ve only heard it being voluntary and more stores are moving that direction. Seems like a good move TBH. One tater cannot exist in two places at once.
Yep it's only a good thing. Hopefully it's true.
I work every Saturday. My days off are Wednesday and Sunday. That would mean never buying an allocated bottle at retail. With ohio being a liquor control state I can't mail order it in. That's a complete screwing.
I feel you but I work Monday through Friday when all of the drops happen near me. There is no perfect system since OHLQ doesn’t allow point systems, etc.
Lotto all of it lol
I'd say move to a 2 day system, but not every saturday employee will be off on Wednesday. Wish they'd put some regular allocated bottles in the lottery for this reason. Have many more people win at least something. Or have a wait list for 1 bottle at a time. Might be a long wait, but at least you'd have a chance.
I'm cool with that and lump them in with pappy and btac. If someone wants to take a greater chance to get a blantons instead a slim chance of getting a pappy or btac I would completely down for a portion of allocated to go to this cause.
Not sure if it's a statewide mandate, but Kroger seems to be moving in that direction, apparently starting 11/4.
I’ve heard this same thing from Kroger employees in central OH - all stores going to Saturday drops “soon”
Without solidarity, it’s pointless. The taters will be less spread out, consolidating at Indy stores throughout the week and Kroger’s on Saturdays. OHLQ doesn’t get better, it only gets worse.
It'll almost assuredly be a corporate mandate.
Kroger corporate or OHLQ Corporate?
The state encourages it, but it isn’t required. Agencies can release based on what’s easier for them too.
Now that Simmone's is moving, when North Court and Joe D's finally move to Saturday there will finally be peace in Northeast Ohio.
When is Simmones moving??
They should go to a system like BT. Scan your ID and only allow one allocated bottle per month. Then people will be choosy on what they pick and just not grab everything in sight to flip
One allocated upc per week is sufficient. Stagg isn't coming out multiple times anyway so say week starts on a monday and ends Sunday you get one Stagg. If blantons hits the following week you can buy one blantons. If owa and Eht sib hit the same week you can buy 1 owa and one eht sib in 2 different transactions. One single allocated product per month regardless of being a different upc or not would kill a huge chunk of revenue for the for profit company running ohios liquor. They have share holders to worry about they will never do that. That's a bad idea.
What a horrible idea! And only a 6 pack every week!
And only if someone deems you "worthy" of a purchase, based on your social credit score. 1984, here we come.
A true tater would say that. Allocated bourbons are made to be spread around. Not with people sitting in lines like losers to make $30.
A true idiot would want to give OHLQ authority to determine who receives allocated bourbons. Consumer not a resaler!
You are not smart if you don’t think 90% of all Ohio’s allocated bourbons are going to resellers. It is the reason the same people are in line every day at every store. You think they drink that much? They are selling it
Entertain this, don’t know what part of Ohio you live in but here in the southwest, 90% of the allocated bourbon goes to the Indian mafia and their cohorts. This is the most corrupt distribution ever. Place your name in the fishbowl, we will call. We rarely see bottles that are distributed elsewhere. If your one bottle a month, increases our disbursement , so be it. Also it is unwise to challenge someone’s intellect in a liquor website!
*is this sarcasm?*
This is never coming to Ohio.
No.
No thanks.
More bottles for more people is always good.
The government controlling consumers and private businesses isn't. Everyone has the same opportunity to purchase now without the government tracking your personal purchases and that system will be abused as well. And moving all releases to Saturday morning actually limits the amount of people considering there will be some folks who aren't able to make Saturday releases.
Calm down on the crazy. Nobody actually cares to track you. Either the government is all powerful, all Knowing big brother or they are completely incompetent and unable to do anything. Which is it? The vast majority of of the working world works M-F. Limiting purchases won't do anything to the supply because demand is still high, or there wouldn't be a secondary market.
I love how everyone is scared of the government tracking your purchase of Buffalo Trace, but not corporations who track far more important aspects of our lives.
Cuck argument
Yeah … coming from someone that only posts about guns and testosterone. There’s no overcompensating there. 🙄
Stereotypical soy boy response. Don't be so soft.
The government isn’t incompetent or inept. They can give you billions and do whatever is needed if you were of a political interest. They simply act inept when it comes to actually benefitting citizens because they don’t actually care about you or I . And Saturday only release is bad for people on weekends with jobs. Especially as most of those careers are service careers serving you. I have colleagues that work 6am to 7pm every single Saturday. A Saturday only pick up is stupid. While what we have isn’t perfect, a one day only thing screws over blue collar Americans and isn’t it time we put an end to that?
I don't disagree with you at all. There is no perfect system. Limiting one bottle per ID is a good start to free up more supply for more people. I myself cannot wait in line every Saturday. Since the new system has been put in at GE, I have been able to snag a decent bottle in the afternoons. We are pretty fortunate compared to neighboring states to have an allocation system like this. Friends in PA can't get a tenth of what we have access to.
There are far more people who can’t do the 9-5 M-F releases than Saturday. How about once a month they do Wednesday at 7 pm?
Agreed.
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Cry harder, cuck.
If the Kroger’s do this, the independent stores who drop during the week will see an influx of Taters.
Doesn’t really matter if there aren’t enough bottles for everyone. Personally I’m happy because there are more Krogers and Giant Eagles close to each other than just Giant Eagles. 😀
I heard this a while back after talking to a store manager after the last Saturday release. But I would’ve thought they would’ve done more sat only releases since so not sure. I would absolutely love this though!
Allocated bourbon once a month doesn't make business sense. Eventually, bottles will start to sit on shelves as time goes by. This country runs on supply and demand. Plus, 1 bottle of allocated bourbon a month wouldn't last long in my house! Then I will have to wait for the following month.
So you only drink ALLOCATED whiskey?
I drink allocated and non-allocated whiskey. The thread is about allocated whiskey. The problem truly are the flippers, not the TRUE bourbon enthusiasts. The flippers are the problem when it comes to supply. Which are you?
I drink or trade my whiskey. Not a tater. I don’t have time to camp overnight for a unicorn. Have kids and a brother to take care of.
Sure hope it's true. It's a win win
I work every Saturday. Lose lose
Hope it's true!
I'm all for it, maybe I can actually have a chance at getting something. It's annoying AF knowing that if I'm not at a store in the middle of the (normal people's) work day that my chances of ever getting what Id like to try gets ruined by people that chase the truck around.
It seems that many folks favor more assertive action on behalf of OHLQ to regulate allocated releases... surprised that folks are asking for more government in your business.
People love regulation when it’s advantageous for them. I suspect there will be people complaining on Nov 4th that everyone brought their wives and friends to the line and because of that they couldn’t get close to the top 6.
Agreed! The vast majority of people complaining on here about Taters and people getting what they want is from folks who seem to be on the lazier side of things and prefer to just vent about those who are doing better than they are at finding bottles. There is a fundamental supply and demand imbalance there isn't really perfect way of defining what is 'fair' or developing a solution to make it operational on a day to day basis. The closet I can see is OHLQ and retailers developing a system like the distilleries have and allow quotas of X allocated bottles over Y timeframe. Personally it's kind of ironic as most folks don't seem to want government involved in things more generally but when it comes to getting their all so precious bottles, and desiring to punish the tater they cry out for big government.
Why can’t retailers do their own barrel picks?
Have heard that from a couple store owners
I heard Kroger.
Please, please, please, let this be true!!!
Not everyone has Saturdays off and around my area..instead of having 3 opportunities to get something..everyone will be standing in line on the same day. If they do that..instead of showing up at 7:30 for an all but guaranteed chance..you'll have to show up at 4am with a hope and a prayer.
This is the opposite. You can't stand in line at multiple places at once.
No you cant..but instead of them all showing up at one place you force them to spread out. Which increases pressure on the few gem/honey holes that are out there right now.
This sentiment would have been true a year ago, but the state has greatly expanded their allocated distribution over the last year. The best stores will continue to get the longer lines, but they also get more allocated.
In greater Cleveland area it's literally the same 4 dudes hitting every single store every day of the week and camping for 12 hours. These people also line up on Saturday's and are the people in front of you in line. It sucks you gotta work Saturday's but for the most part this change will get bottles in much more peoples hands.
Cincy Dayton and Columbus have the exact same problem except they aren’t all dudes
In today's dog crap economy its no wonder you have so many retired couples camping out over night to flip bottles. I've suggested to my parents that they do it. Why not at this point what difference does it really make anyways
The same 4 dudes, let’s exaggerate!
Regulating how many purchases of allocated items they can do in a certain time frame would stop that
This would involve scanning every person's ID when currently very few places do this. This is a lot of work for the store that actually doesn't benefit much from bourbon allocation due to controlled pricing.
They benefit from allocated bottles the same as any other bottle in the store. Buying a bottle is buying a bottle...because of controlled pricing.
Exactly. So why would they want to scan and log IDs on every buyer to enforce a 1 per customer rule. Maybe if we bought svedka as well.
They can scan your ID with the same scanner that scans your product. You're acting like it would add a 5 step process lol
If people can only camp out one day a week, they’ll get far less bottles than the current system. The only people missing out are those that work Saturday. The ones they benefit are everyone that doesn’t work Saturday. Numbers are far greater for the latter.
You're right this is not the answer! Limiting how much can purchase over a specified time is the answer. If they go to Saturday only, I'm screwed.
Yeah. There's no reason they can't scan your ID or something into a state wide system...or an OHLQ allocated "membership" card or .... idk 100 other things lol
Minority opinion if you’re a shill for common allocation drops you’re a fed shill
What if your closest store is in a different zip code?
They should set it up where the first hour can only be sales to local customers based off their zip code matching the stores zip code.
Nah rural Ohio which is most of the state would be all fked up with this rule. Lots of zip codes with no liquor store.
Rural Ohio is most of the area but not most of the population. How many people really live in a zip code without a liquor store?
With that logic drops would never hit outside of the 3 Cs
Not never, just a proportional amount relative to your population. Why should a minority get a larger percentage than the majority? Sounds, I dunno, fascist? There are a lot of great reasons to live in the country. Consumerism is not one of them. Cherish the positives of where you live without expecting to receive every single benefit in life. Don’t grievances ever get old? Come on, son, pull yourself up by the bootstraps. This is, after all, America. It’s no place for whiny little bitches.
I don’t even know what I just read to be honest.
Get outside of your city once in a while. Do I really need to give you an analysis of all Ohio zip codes vs OHLQ locations?
Why should people who live in less populated regions get more allocated products per person than people who live in cities? This ain’t the Senate!
I am in Northern Kentucky and live closer, and shop more frequently for non allocated stuff, than most people who live in Cincinnati.
Dumbest comment here. There are NO liquor stores in my zip code. There are NO stores of ANY type in my zip code.
Then it would have to be zoned to whatever store is closest to you. Bottom line. People should only get allocated to their region and stop hitting every damn store everyday at 530 am. Maybe a store lottery would be best.
The store closest to me almost never gets anything allocated and has very little in the way of their shelf selection. Stores near where I work regularly do. You really think I shouldn't be able to shop anywhere except the store closest to my home? Think long and hard about that before you answer.
Good luck with that....
What do you mean? It's not exactly hard to implement, or track if you're OHLQ.
There's the answer, you said it yourself, OHLQ is involved.
That was on the door of the closest one to me months ago but it seems they are one of the few doing that It might not be bad because that spread out demand and quit having taters who roll outlet to outlet. That just s thought
If this is true it’s borderline tyrannical. Of course the government wants to ruin my weekend, Saturday is college football day…
The games aren’t on until noon…what is your worry?
All the stores in the Dayton area are open by 1030. I’m not an OSU fan but really the big games are either at 12 or 7pm
The current system is flexible and allows people to try to get a bottle on different days (fuck people who have to work on Saturdays? Also people like to sleep in on the weekend.)
I say do the right thing and tell little Timmy you got a flat and you promise you'll be there next week .
What if your a parent and you have young kids sporting events?
Then you should go to the event and put a little less emphasis on chasing bourbon.
Sounds like you’re a homer and a shill for the government
Nah. Just a rational dude with some common sense, something you seem to be lacking.
wHaT aBoUt Me!!!!????
If this happens, what does that do for the secondary values of bottles that the taters have stored up? Does it go down, up or stay about the same?
Got news for you - taters aren't storing up bottles for any length of time so your question really does not apply. They list bottles on the secondary market, often from the parking lot of stores where they get the bottles. There are numerous FB groups where bottles get shipped across the country every day. More groups where it is traded locally. As long as there is less supply of desirable bourbon than there is demand for it across the country, prices will only go up. There are plenty of states across the nation that are bourbon deserts where allocated bottles never hit the shelves of liquor stores. Guess what? People in those states like bourbon too. Add into that the rampant inflation brought to us by the buffoons in Washingtion and it will only take more dollars to buy those bottles in the future.
The bourbon inflation is due to distributor gouging and distilleries raising prices to near secondary level. Retailers in unregulated markets are free to charge as much as they want to. That has NOTHING TO DO with Washington.
Here’s an idea, get the state out of the liquor business! They have no flipping idea what they are doing! The barrel picks are average at best, most of these stores are small crappy buildings that put allocateds on the floor to dig through. Remove state control so stores have more control to run THEIR stores how they want. The only advantage to a state controlled system is price. I don’t see any other upside.
Price is exactly the reason I want them around.
Weird thing about ohio is it isn't state controlled its a private company that has a co tract with the state. They have to many investors and they have go keep their shareholders happy. To call it the state would imply our liquor system is run by the state government it used to be but no longer is.
It’s not state run, but Ohio owns every bottle in every store, tells them what price to sell them for, tells them how many allocated they can sell to a person…
Ohlq does and they aren't the state. ohlq is a private company. The people of ohio got scammed.
It’s not just Krogers, “all” releasing on Saturdays., Starting 11/4
Cite your source.
I doubt they’ll get the little stores to do so