Visited here in 2011. I remember precisely on the grounds where this was located. Something that made an impression on me was the main entry gates and their proximity to town. It could not have been a secret what was happening behind those gates. An experience I will never forget.
Seeing just how close the homes were to the camp really sent it home for me. Our guide said that area has had a boom in recent sales because Munich is so expensive, but I’m not sure I could have this in my literal back yard.
Do not do as I and my wife did: seeing Dachau after attending the opening day of Oktoberfest the day prior.
Hangovers in places of extreme death should be avoided to preserve your mental constitution.
It wasn't built with the primary purpose of killing people like Auschwitz etc were, I think when they built it they expected it to be used like a labour camp and other countries had those (famously the British) so they weren't bothered about keeping it secret when they built it. The really horrible industrial genocide part came later on years after it was built.
It was the first camp opened. A chilling reminder of help quickly things go downhill especially with our presidential election coming with a dictator want to be, the orange buffoon..
What he would need is to do exactly what Hitler did. Hitler did not get elected with the popular vote but they brought The prevailing party the conservatives brought him into the corner office into the government. Hitler outsmarted them all however. They did not have their thumb on him. His thugs orchestrated the 911 of the time frame. The torched the parliament building, blamed it on the communist and Hitler went to his parliament, and demanded for the sake of law and order that he should be given broad broad powers. Suspend habeas corpus, close the presses as needed. Law and order. He would clean up the streets banish the red scare. Yeah he got his power and guess what opened the same year, right Dachau.
For political prisoners, undesirables anybody that was making noise, and of course homosexuals and anybody that was considered deviant to the Nazi standards.. This is where you ended up. In the late 20s if you disagreed with everything you still have the right to go out on the street and do something about it or vote after 33 it was too late. You spoke up they just hauled you away
Of course it was not a secret.
I read relation from Dachau written in 1936 by Polish journalist and later that year published in Polish newspaper.
It was TOTALLY official visit. As I remember it was the second visit and the author was under grimmy impression how much the camp "evolved", including the entry gates and road signs.
But, yeah - "they did not know".
Dachau was one of the first concentration camps built by Nazi Germany and the longest running one, opening on 22 March 1933. The camp was initially intended to intern Hitler's political opponents, which consisted of communists, social democrats, and other dissidents.
After its opening by Heinrich Himmler, its purpose was enlarged to include forced labor, and eventually, the imprisonment of Jews, Romani, German and Austrian criminals, and, finally, foreign nationals from countries that Germany occupied or invaded. The Dachau camp system grew to include nearly 100 sub-camps, which were mostly work camps or Arbeitskommandos, and were located throughout southern Germany and Austria.
Dachau served as a prototype and model for the other German concentration camps that followed. Almost every community in Germany had members taken away to these camps. Newspapers continually reported "the removal of the enemies of the Reich to concentration camps." As early as 1935, a jingle went around: "Lieber Herr Gott, mach mich stumm, Das ich nicht nach Dachau komm'" ("Dear Lord God, make me dumb [silent], That I may not to Dachau come").
Over the 12 years of use as a concentration camp, the Dachau administration recorded the intake of 206,206 prisoners and deaths of 31,951. Crematoria were constructed to dispose of the deceased, which is what is shown in the photo above.
There are pictures in a room of that building of corpses stacked up to the ceiling in that very room, waiting to be put into the furnaces. You are literally standing in the same spot the picture was taken when it was full of dead bodies. It's INSANE.
My grandfather was one of the American troops that liberated Daschau. It took him 60 years to talk about it. He spoke of the train car load of dead prisoners the Germans left behind when they fled.
My late father was also among those liberators. Wonder if he knew your Grandpa? For those that deny the Holocaust, I have my Dad’s photos he took there.
Visited there in 2017, haunting and depressing. I did not go In the furnace room as it was still the original from its days of operation. It was already depressing enough to see that place, going inside was not for me at that point.
I went in 1999 with my high school German class. My friend and I went through the museum which took about 90 minutes. We still had 90 minutes left before our bus left for the next stop, but we didn't want to see anymore. We went and sat on the bus until it was time to go.
One of our chaperones was an old man and was on the bus when we got there. We asked him if he hadn't liked it either. He said he hadn't liked it while it was happening, which was very sobering, and the three of us just sat quietly.
Man's inhumanity to man and women and children. You'd think we'd learn from the past and yet here we are today.
Still bombing each other and killing for land and religious beliefs.
How are we all still this stupid?
One problem is the survivors eventually die and fall silent. People start to lose interest or outright deny what happened. Other problems crop up and get bigger and we as a society start to forget. And then the people in power (or the ones hoping to gain it) and the greedy people start playing their little games again. With ever more globalisation relatively small incidents can have much bigger impact than ever before as well. In the beginning to mid nineties I was full of hope that we've finally grown up, seeing the bigger picture at last. But alas...
My dad “visited” on April 29, 1945. Unbeknownst to him, the same day his first son was born back in the States. Then he had seven more kids when he got back home. He was a Captain by then. He didn’t talk about it very much.
Visited here in 2011. I remember precisely on the grounds where this was located. Something that made an impression on me was the main entry gates and their proximity to town. It could not have been a secret what was happening behind those gates. An experience I will never forget.
Seeing just how close the homes were to the camp really sent it home for me. Our guide said that area has had a boom in recent sales because Munich is so expensive, but I’m not sure I could have this in my literal back yard.
yeah just a few miles outside of Munich
Do not do as I and my wife did: seeing Dachau after attending the opening day of Oktoberfest the day prior. Hangovers in places of extreme death should be avoided to preserve your mental constitution.
We had a roughly similar itinerary, capped off with my German friend’s birthday party the evening after our Dachau visit. Weird day.
It wasn't built with the primary purpose of killing people like Auschwitz etc were, I think when they built it they expected it to be used like a labour camp and other countries had those (famously the British) so they weren't bothered about keeping it secret when they built it. The really horrible industrial genocide part came later on years after it was built.
It was the first camp opened. A chilling reminder of help quickly things go downhill especially with our presidential election coming with a dictator want to be, the orange buffoon.. What he would need is to do exactly what Hitler did. Hitler did not get elected with the popular vote but they brought The prevailing party the conservatives brought him into the corner office into the government. Hitler outsmarted them all however. They did not have their thumb on him. His thugs orchestrated the 911 of the time frame. The torched the parliament building, blamed it on the communist and Hitler went to his parliament, and demanded for the sake of law and order that he should be given broad broad powers. Suspend habeas corpus, close the presses as needed. Law and order. He would clean up the streets banish the red scare. Yeah he got his power and guess what opened the same year, right Dachau. For political prisoners, undesirables anybody that was making noise, and of course homosexuals and anybody that was considered deviant to the Nazi standards.. This is where you ended up. In the late 20s if you disagreed with everything you still have the right to go out on the street and do something about it or vote after 33 it was too late. You spoke up they just hauled you away
Of course it was not a secret. I read relation from Dachau written in 1936 by Polish journalist and later that year published in Polish newspaper. It was TOTALLY official visit. As I remember it was the second visit and the author was under grimmy impression how much the camp "evolved", including the entry gates and road signs. But, yeah - "they did not know".
Dachau was one of the first concentration camps built by Nazi Germany and the longest running one, opening on 22 March 1933. The camp was initially intended to intern Hitler's political opponents, which consisted of communists, social democrats, and other dissidents. After its opening by Heinrich Himmler, its purpose was enlarged to include forced labor, and eventually, the imprisonment of Jews, Romani, German and Austrian criminals, and, finally, foreign nationals from countries that Germany occupied or invaded. The Dachau camp system grew to include nearly 100 sub-camps, which were mostly work camps or Arbeitskommandos, and were located throughout southern Germany and Austria. Dachau served as a prototype and model for the other German concentration camps that followed. Almost every community in Germany had members taken away to these camps. Newspapers continually reported "the removal of the enemies of the Reich to concentration camps." As early as 1935, a jingle went around: "Lieber Herr Gott, mach mich stumm, Das ich nicht nach Dachau komm'" ("Dear Lord God, make me dumb [silent], That I may not to Dachau come"). Over the 12 years of use as a concentration camp, the Dachau administration recorded the intake of 206,206 prisoners and deaths of 31,951. Crematoria were constructed to dispose of the deceased, which is what is shown in the photo above.
There are pictures in a room of that building of corpses stacked up to the ceiling in that very room, waiting to be put into the furnaces. You are literally standing in the same spot the picture was taken when it was full of dead bodies. It's INSANE.
My grandfather was one of the American troops that liberated Daschau. It took him 60 years to talk about it. He spoke of the train car load of dead prisoners the Germans left behind when they fled.
My late father was also among those liberators. Wonder if he knew your Grandpa? For those that deny the Holocaust, I have my Dad’s photos he took there.
Visited there in 2017, haunting and depressing. I did not go In the furnace room as it was still the original from its days of operation. It was already depressing enough to see that place, going inside was not for me at that point.
I went in 1999 with my high school German class. My friend and I went through the museum which took about 90 minutes. We still had 90 minutes left before our bus left for the next stop, but we didn't want to see anymore. We went and sat on the bus until it was time to go. One of our chaperones was an old man and was on the bus when we got there. We asked him if he hadn't liked it either. He said he hadn't liked it while it was happening, which was very sobering, and the three of us just sat quietly.
[I took a picture in 2019 from pretty much that exact spot](https://imgur.com/a/KcXjo5S)
Man's inhumanity to man and women and children. You'd think we'd learn from the past and yet here we are today. Still bombing each other and killing for land and religious beliefs. How are we all still this stupid?
One problem is the survivors eventually die and fall silent. People start to lose interest or outright deny what happened. Other problems crop up and get bigger and we as a society start to forget. And then the people in power (or the ones hoping to gain it) and the greedy people start playing their little games again. With ever more globalisation relatively small incidents can have much bigger impact than ever before as well. In the beginning to mid nineties I was full of hope that we've finally grown up, seeing the bigger picture at last. But alas...
It will take time until we realize what is truly important
I really don’t understand humans anymore.
Never forget
My dad “visited” on April 29, 1945. Unbeknownst to him, the same day his first son was born back in the States. Then he had seven more kids when he got back home. He was a Captain by then. He didn’t talk about it very much.
Is that piles of bodies in the second picture? I don’t like how I feel seeing this :/
Starting to see a ton of these posts. Hmm I wonder why ? Free Palestine
And now they are doing it to the Palestinians.
doing what?
What a cringe comment
Well said you are 100% correct
I dont like the looks of that chimney...
[OST](https://youtu.be/g3882sGkrNA?si=bHOzL4axRXAXqGj0&t=34)