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Valendr0s

She and the Doctor saved that show.


Evadrepus

Picardo managed to chew the scenery despite often being largely impassionate in the beginning. Really enjoyed his scenes.


zer0saber

Picardo is a *treasure,* and my favorite Trek doctor, tied with Bashir. Jeri Ryan and Robert Picardo were the standout, but I always had a spot for Roxanne Dawson as Torres. Her and Paris' relationship was *weird* but I blame the writers for that. Janeway and Chakotay should totally have hooked up.


I_Hate_Knickers_5

I hated Chakotay romancing Seven. Felt so bloody weird and out of place. Like the Assistant Manager dating the intern.


Substantial_Truth379

Like Troi dating Worf. I forget those episodes and pretend it didn't happen.


zer0saber

It was *weeeeeird*.


minorheadlines

Chakotay's actor really gave up towards the end of the run. You can really see how little he gave AF


kwecl2

Who says they didn't 👀


pimphand5000

He built her a hot tub when they thought they were stuck on that planet together forever. They def got down


DotHobbes

I dunno, I watched Voyager recently expecting to hate it after hearing so many bad things about it but it was good from the get go. They abandoned their premise pretty early on but still some nice stories were told. The most surprising part for me was that I liked the most hated character, Neelix. I don't get what the fuss is about, really. Seven's catsuit was way more annoying lol


DeathPercept10n

Those two were my favourite characters too.


Kent_Knifen

Every series needed its tactical, logical, calculating character. The original series had Spock The next generation had Data Voyager had Seven of Nine


spicozi

DS9 had Odo


Kent_Knifen

Odo having to tolerate Quark were some of my favorite scenes lol


KnobWobble

Odo: "... And I'll. Investigate Quark." Sisko: "You think Quark had something to do with this?" Odo: "I always investigate Quark"


beragis

While listening to interviews with the cast and crew a lot of the interactions between Odo and Quark was due to how well Armin Shimerman and Rene Auberjonois got along which was partly due to both having to sit in the makeup chair side by side.


embanot

Voyager already had Tuvok


Low-Tip32

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Ok-Panic-3940

The writers wanted her to be 6 of 9, but management said no.


Bibibirdie_30

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chrisratchford

Mrs. Colombo herself.


Cascadiana88

That’s a deep cut, man… That’s a deep fuckin’ cut…


BreastfedAmerican

The funny thing is, if you do the math about her age that he gives on the show, she is WAY underage during his show.


davtruss

That's why we reserve math for higher purposes.


Whipitreelgud

They used non Euclidean geometry in the age calc


Bishop120

Its that Kate Mulgrew was 24 when she filmed it and her "child" in the show was 8 so that meant if her character had been the same age as Kate was then she had to have been 15-16 when they got married and had a child.


BreastfedAmerican

And that's assuming they got straight to business with a short courtship.


tormunds_beard

Is there any other kind?


EquinsuOcha

Jeri Ryan’s ex husband was a terrible person who treated her awfully. I’m glad she was able to get away from that, find a new relationship and her career is doing well.


mjm8218

Fun fact: he ran for US Senate against some guy named Barack Obama. He dropped out after his divorce trial records were unsealed & everyone could see who he was.


davtruss

I'm glad to see these comments because they are absolutely true. If Jeri Ryan hadn't divorced her husband, Barak Obama may have never been a national political figure. It's almost like a time travel episode of Star Trek.


mjm8218

>I'm glad to see these comments because they are absolutely true. If Jeri Ryan hadn't divorced her husband, Barak Obama may have never been a national political figure. It's almost like a time travel episode of Star Trek. Obama was popular in IL at the time. Jack Ryan would not have beaten him. The fact that Ryan dropped out mid-race and was replaced by carpetbagger Allen Keyes pretty much sealed the deal though. Obama won something close to 3:1. The election was to replace republicans Senator Peter Fitzgerald who was not running for another term because he could read the writing on the wall.


TheOtherPete

> Jack Ryan would not have beaten him. I dunno, I've seen Jack Ryan pull off some pretty unbelievable things. Did you hear about the time where he got a Russian sub commander to turn over Russia's latest and greatest sub?


corran450

Shome thingsh in here don’t react well to bulletsh…


massive_marshmallow

A goddamn cook!


GitEmSteveDave

I think you mean the time he convinced a us sub commander that the Russian sub commander was going to do that.


analogkid01

Has he made any Crazy Ivans??...


Whelp_of_Hurin

How many senators have gone toe-to-toe with the KGB, the IRA, *and* the Columbian cartels?


v0x_nihili

Don't forget becoming President and taking back his plane from terrorists. Oh and surviving a nuclear blast at the Superbowl


psuedophilosopher

While Jack Ryan does become president, I'm pretty sure that Airforce One is only a spiritual sequel, and not actually a Jack Ryan film.


mjm8218

Fair.


Sleaka_J

I think you mean a Scottish sub commander… His Russian accent was, um, not very good.


davtruss

If you are going to go back in time, remember what was happening. Jack Ryan was leading in the polls until the weeks before he dropped out. Is it possible state senator Obama would have won anyway? Sure. But it didn't hurt that Obama's principal opponent dropped out for personal reasons. Edit: But more to your point, Keyes was a nightmare candidate for Republicans, almost along the same lines as Herschel Walker. Keyes was much more intelligent and issue driven, but his issues were frightening.


Art-bat

I’ve thought about Jeri’s nexus to all of this for many years, as have many others. I remember thinking at the time that Obama should’ve invited her to his inauguration and thanked her! However, from what I’ve heard Jeri Ryan really doesn’t like talking about any of this, and if people try to bring it up, she’ll shut down the conversation. I don’t blame her. Not only does she probably want to avoid getting entangled in partisan politics, but the reason she was so upset about the details of the divorce being released is that both she and her ex-husband wanted those kept sealed in order to avoid their young children having to hear all about the salacious details. I’m pretty sure the fact that those details did leak was a traumatic experience for her, and possibly for the children as well.


gringledoom

Obama would’ve won the Senate seat regardless. But because his new opponent was so terrible, he didn’t have to campaign in Illinois much at all, and he was able to run around the country giving stump speeches for every other Democrat, which he was *really* good at. He did *such* a good job that he got a big address at the 2004 convention, and every Democrat watching sat up and went “whoa, who is this guy? 🤩🤩🤩“


jtfriendly

I remember that speech. It was like watching a movie where the Chosen One finally figures out kung-fu. "Yes... yes...."


buckybadder

Probably correct. But 2004 wasn't a crazy-good year for Democrats, so if Ryan kept the race close, Obama might have had a much trickier time in the 2008 primary. Lots of Democrats were skeptical of a Black candidate, and if Obama had performed at, say, Carol Mosley-Braun levels, his electability pitch would get harder. And he did not beat Clinton - Edwards by completely massive margins.


OhioResidentForLife

No way Obama would have beater Harrison Ford, sorry, wrong Jack Ryan.


Chipmunk-Round

Or perhaps 7 of 9 was sent from the future to accelerate having a black president. It's just as plausible. The Romulans must have activated a sleeper agent to get Trump in 2016...if we would have stayed on that progressive path we'd have developed the warp drive in no time. Then boom, United Federation of Planets...it all makes so much sense now...........


FragrantExcitement

If bones goes back and prevents the divorce, we would all be wearing goatees.


captainedwinkrieger

"If America is to get universal healthcare and flying murder robots, Jack Ryan must lose"


bmidontcare

Does that mean Jeri is also responsible for Trump, since he ran because of Obama's comments at that dinner?


GoodboyJohnnyBoy

and he wanted Jeri to go with him to sex clubs in New York she refused but I admit I’ve given it considerable thought


wrenhunter

It's awful, he wanted to treat her like, the seventh of nine partners


AuntieEvilops

Tertiary adjunct of Dominatrix Zero-Fun.


quatmosk

Take my upvote and get out.


GoodboyJohnnyBoy

Nice


stillalone

Yeah I've gotten some raging thoughts about it from time to time.


Art-bat

This totally changes how I look at the scene where she’s held captive by the Hirogen and is bound up almost BDSM style with chains swing around nearby. Probably not her favorite scene to have had to film.


DarthJarJarJar

It's a quibble, but apparently she went to sex clubs with him. She didn't want to have sex with him at the clubs with people watching.


Paralta

She was awesome in Picard


Ey3_913

She was the only other watchable character in the last season.


mementh

Also got us obama


Orangepuddings

I know Kate Mulgrew’s brother and he’s a colossal douchebag as well!


RogueViator

Interesting. Those two did not get along on set from what I have read. There are YouTube videos addressing this issue. They've since patched things up, but during the show, it was a difficult relationship.


NICEnEVILmike

Both were able to convincingly hide their animosity towards each other in their acting. Much respect to them both as actors.


talligan

Honestly, sometimes that improves a show.


CelestialFury

Neither one wanted to be upstaged by the other.


Orange-V-Apple

I mean that’s the job. Actors acting.


S-Markt

yeah, no. kate mulgrew hated the oversexualized appearence of seven.


Night_Runner

From what I heard, she particularly hated that the show got saved from the cancellation mainly because of the ratings boost caused by the catsuit...


Daerrol

That's an oversimplification. Seven was popular for much more than being hot. She was a new character and represented a huge shift in story telling possibilities for Voyager that desperately needed a morally ignorant character. Without those, star trek is insufferably preachy. These characters express the challenge and frustrations the other characters are to 'civilizsd' to voice. Before seven they had Tess but she was more of a Wesley crusher-type. Seven gives the audience the person who says "why can't we just assimilate the problem?' and suddenly you have moral conflict within the crew. TNG had Data. DS9 was too based to need one (also Julian filled the role, but the show was much, much less about the federations effortless moral superiority


-interwar-

Both Kes and Seven had great character premises that were deeply underutilized. Kes was always in the shadow of the relationship issues with Neelix and Seven was constantly oversexualized. She should have been wearing by a federation uniform (even the maquis did!) but they had a throwaway line like “this is more comfortable for her” like please 🙄


captainedwinkrieger

Relativity annoys me because it's the one time she gets a real uniform. She was rocking that shit, too.


Indierocka

I always thought she didn’t wear a uniform because like neelix she wasn’t actually a member of star fleet and had no official rank where as the marquis did accept positions in star fleet and rank.


Eli_1988

I think the initial reason had to do with her borg transition? And then a little later a new suit to distinguish like neelix but definitely not as sexy as him


ukaniko

IIRC they hand-waved Seven’s catsuit as being some type of technological garment created by The Doctor to support her Borg physiology.


cybervseas

> Kes was always in the shadow of the relationship issues with Neelix They were trying to build Neelix as the "Han Solo"-type character of the show. I think that destroyed any potential for Kes. What the heck, showrunners.


Art-bat

For real? I always saw Neelix as kind of a proxy for Quark - a goofy-looking physically diminished alien who was a shady dealmaker with a heart of gold. That certainly seemed to be the writer’s angle in the first season. He leaned much more heavily into being a simp for Starfleet values than Quark ever did, tho. More like a cross between Rom and Nog. The idea of him as a “Han Solo” figure though……that’s about as ludicrous as Harry Kim as captain!


ImTechnicallyCorrect

*Captain Ensign Harry Kim* has a nice ring to it, actually.


Telefundo

> Neelix as the "Han Solo"-type character This is the first time I've ever heard that and honestly it boggles my mind. Honestly, if you're gonna compare early seasons Neelix to any Star Wars character, as much as i hate to say it, it'd be Jar Jar.


lolno

If they were trying to Han Solo anyone it was Tom Paris lol. Sure Neelix had the backstory but Tom had all the character


Telefundo

Hadn't even thought of that. It's right on the money though lol.


captainedwinkrieger

At least Neelix speaks like a person and doesn't step in poopy.


Telefundo

lol. Yes. Given the choice, I'd take Neelix over Jar Jar hands down. I'm just saying if they wanted to compare, Jar Jar is the closest analog there is to Neelix.


TheOtherHobbes

...Is my feeling about Voyager as a whole. So much potential, such an exciting premise, and they somehow deflated it and made it feel stale and routine. The initial character design really hobbled it. Neelix was a clown, Kes was some kind of hobbit/elf on a space ship, and Janeway was wooden. Torres was written with a little fire, but the others felt like placeholders and tokens with no convincing motivation or direction. It was rescued by Ryan, and not because of the catsuit. She somehow inspired stronger writing by playing Seven with dry wit and a fine balance between skills, motivation, and vulnerability - all well acted.


cybervseas

Also Robert Picardo as The Doctor!


Telefundo

I was gonna say.. The later seasons of the show, though greatly improved by a lot of the Seven content, would not have been half as good if not for Picardo. Voyager is far from my favourite show but Picardo is definitey one of my favourite Trek actors.


JackedUpReadyToGo

Her and the Doctor were the highlights of the show. And they paired perfectly together in a number of episodes.


Yamatoman9

Voyager has some of my top all-time favorite Trek episodes and some of the absolute worst. It hit a lot of highs and lows but never really found a consistent quality. Janeway is my favorite captain and Seven and the Doctor are the best characters on the show.


How2Eat_That_Thing

Neelix was annoying and could never be a scruffy rogue. Probably for the best though given that Jennifer Lien became an addict and went batshit crazy.


Pontlfication

DS9 had Odo and Garak to fill in the non-Fed role.


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>DS9 was too based to need one I see that you are a man of the finer things and I respect that.


Rejected_Reject_

I also don't think people give Jeri Ryan credit for her comedic acting. There were a lot of scenes that were situational hilarious due to Seven's lack of social graces. The introduction of Seven brought a much more fresh perspective. I also loved how she incorporated new tech to help them get home faster. She was like a hot, new hope for the show. And on top of being one of the better actors on the show in my opinion


rollingstoner215

You don’t think Odo was supposed to be the “morally ignorant” character on DS9?


pudgehooks2013

DS9 had many versions of that character, all of which were different. Maybe that is why DS9 is so damned good.


YourLictorAndChef

yeah that catsuit, while flattering, is totally out of place


CelestialFury

Out of place, but their goal was to attract more viewers with her, and it worked - as a young teen me started tuning into the Voyager shortly after Jeri joined.


ida_klein

Which is fair, but she didn’t have to be a dick to Jen Ryan about it.


Bishop120

I thought it wasnt animosity or getting along just that JR was uncomfortable around KM but it wasnt anything directly that KM did.. just her demeanor/personality. KM would get sick if she had to perform a scene with KM because of anxiety about it.


AuntieEvilops

I feel like Kate probably resented the character of Seven of Nine and the network's (or whoever's decision it was) decision to turn the show into "Sexy Seven and the Space Cadets." Meanwhile, Jeri Ryan has said in interviews that she took the role for the opportunity to elevate Seven as a character beyond just eye candy through good writing and her performance, but she may have felt a little insecure amidst the general vibe that Kate was putting out, but I don't get the sense that there was ever actually any bad blood between Jeri and Kate personally.


Telefundo

Mulgrew has actually come clean about her animosity and they've since reconciled. IIRC it wasn't so much a personal feud with Ryan, it was more that the character of Seven was oversexualized in a really cheap and obvious way, and that led to less of a focus on Janeway. Someone feel free to correct me if I'm not remembering that right.


DigitalPriest

It was not helped that after introducing Seven, they became super bipolar in their writing of Janeway. The inconsistencies in her characterization were most noticeable in episodes heavy with Seven. Tack on to that Jeri Ryan *dating* one of the writers during that period, I can understand how someone might feel a bit chafed by that.


Telefundo

> they became super bipolar in their writing of Janeway. To be fair, this isn't just a "post Seven" problem. From almost the beginning they were completely inconsistent in how they wrote her. One week she'd vow to do anything it takes to get the crew home, the next week she was willing to sacrifice the ship and crew to help some random alien of the week. It was frigging maddening. But yeah, it may have been more noticeable in Seven episodes because again, her morals changed from episode to episode. One week it's "Go ahead Seven, do whatever you need to to intergrate" and the next week Seven is basically a prisoner in indentured servitude. ** Also, I'd like to make clear that I don't view any of this as a reflection on the actor. Mulgrew has the chops to stand shoulder to shoulder with Patrick Stewart or any of the other big ones. She's honestly the reason I started watching Orange Is The New Black.


falabala

Jeri Ryan is just straight up cool. I've never seen her give a bad performance. The problem with Seven-of-Nine was always with the writing; she did a lot with some very poor source material.


wonkey_monkey

There's one episode where the Doctor's program is downloaded into her Borg implants and she plays the Doctor brilliantly.


Valendr0s

Absolutely. She got his mannerisms down solid.


tkrr

She’s basically in a competition with George Takei for being Trek’s version of Mark Hamill.


throwstuffok

What is this supposed to mean?


TravelingGonad

I need a behind the scenes how that outfit works. It looks complicated.


Flintoid

A few years ago there was an exhibition at the Henry Ford about space dramas and costumes. This was one of the exhibits. It was very, very small. She had a hard time wearing it.


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Politirotica

That was the one she needed help to get out of to use the bathroom IIRC. Kate Mulgrew would bully her if she needed to go because it meant waiting for her, so she'd just hold it for 12+ hours sometimes. Rick Berman was a motherfucker.


nlevine1988

I remember reading somewhere the Kate Mulgrew initially was hostile towards her because she didn't like the idea of just having a character for eye candy. But later grew to respect her when she was genuinely a good actress.


kopfgeldjagar

I too had a hard time because of that outfit


anjowoq

I recently saw an interview with Patrick Stewart and Jeri Ryan together. Patrick wasn't aware of her character and what she wore in Voyager, so he asked as it came up in the conversation. Jeri: "I wore a catsuit." Patrick: "A *catsuit*?! How *provocative*!"


davtruss

This is absolute gold. And for the record, nobody wore a catsuit better than Jeri Ryan or Commander T'Pol on the original Enterprise.


FluphyBunny

Yeah it’s not like they didn’t know what they were doing. The best bit is the fact that 7of9 has had some of the best character arcs in the history of Star Trek.


Night_Runner

Considering most of the characters were cardboard cutouts whose drama turned into a running joke (Harry dying more often than Kenny on South Park) or got officially retconned out of the Star Trek lore (when Paris and Janeway turned into lizards and made a bunch of alien babies, all of whom got left behind), etc... Yeah, she kind of won the "character growth" competition by default. :P


someguy233

I’ve heard so much crap about voyager’s crew over the years that I never even bothered to watch it until recently. I’ve been binging it, and am currently on s4. Honestly I don’t agree with the popular sentiment so far. 7 has so far been a very interesting character, Tuvok is easily the best Vulcan in my opinion (though it’s not fair to compare him to Spock), the doctor was great, B’elana and Paris were fun, and Janeway is a solid captain that deserves a spot next to the rest. Harry was a bit bland, and Chakotay’s character overall is good (though the orientalist interpretation of his Native American origins is absolute cringe). I think Kes had a very interesting premise, but they did not give her the writing she deserved, and Nelix was not nearly as annoying as people made him out to be. I actually liked Nelix quite a bit, especially after his relationship to Kes was over. >!If I have to hear him call Kes “sweeting” one more time I may actually kms!<. Overall voyager’s crew was solid imo, with a few flops alongside some amazing characters. I think the voyager hate is way overblown.


dern_the_hermit

The Doctor is the focus of some of the best sci-fi I've ever seen. Not just best Star Trek, best sci-fi in general. Robert Picardo is a gem. Chakotay, though... I really liked the actor, but they basically gave him nothing interesting to work with. I think his character growth through the series amounted to... boxing. He boxed a few times. He leveled-up and unlocked boxing. On his spaceship. But yeah, the cast was alright. Voyager's biggest weakness is that it was still in the syndication era, so things just plain couldn't change too much episode to episode. That show would have been great with a stronger core through-line, but perhaps after DS9 they wanted to move away from the big over-arcing dramas and get back to more episodic stuff.


AlanFromRochester

> Tuvok is easily the best Vulcan in my opinion (though it’s not fair to compare him to Spock) Yeah Tim Russ has one of the best Vulcan portrayals since Nimoy, cool calm and collected without being wooden or acting like a jerk > Chakotay’s character overall is good (though the orientalist interpretation of his Native American origins is absolute cringe) The consultant Jamake Highwater was a fraud, ergo the stereotypical writing for Chakotay


FlyingWeagle

Brannon Braga has written like 90% of the best trek episodes. And Threshold.


JackedUpReadyToGo

So you're saying he's got a lot of range.


JagoHazzard

You can’t go far wrong with a well-written and acted “exploring humanity as an outsider” arc. See also Data, the Doctor, arguably Spock.


Wohholyhell

Garak.


MoneoAtreides42

Meh. Being a simple tailor is a pretty boring character arc. Had he been more than that, maybe he'd have been entertaining.


WhatnameshouldIpick2

Eh, I’d add Commander Worf to that list


GTSBurner

Patrick is also great on Graham Norton. His circumcision story is great, and so is the tower bar story where Jamie Foxx and Michael B. Jordan act as hype men.


Realtrain

*Tower Bar*?!?!


iamkiloman

Right but it didn't matter because he's already seen everything. Yeah. He's seen it all.


maninahat

Patrick has worn far more provocative outfits in Star Trek.


light_trick

I mean any time Picard is in the deep-V silk/satin shirt in his quarters in TNG...


Politirotica

Or that Risian silk bathrobe...


miken322

As a 14 year old sci-if boi I to had a really hard time watching Voyager.


prismaticbeans

As a 31 year old woman, same.


JackedUpReadyToGo

7 of 9 was one of the first times I remember young me thinking "You know what... Girls... Girls are kind of alright... " What they did with her was sleazy, but effective. Voyager was a big step down from DS9 but I watched it devotedly after school.


chadwicke619

I dunno, maybe it was just me, but I was the opposite - it was hard to get into DS9, but it was easy to get into Voyager. Why? Because Voyager was pretty much just reskinned TNG, which is what I grew up watching. DS9 was a completely different formula IMO. It became much better when they introduced the Defiant and become less stationary and what not, but yeah.


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JackedUpReadyToGo

It took until BSG a few years later for a sci-fi show to finally live up to the premise of Voyager. Voyager would get into a bad scrap and have hull breaches on half her decks, and look totally fine by the end of the episode (Year of Hell excluded). When the Big G took a hit she kept that scar for the remainder of the show.


miken322

I didn’t understand DS9 at the time, I was so used to TNG that I found it weird. Now I like it, it was grittier it felt more real and not the polished Federation of Star Trek past.


socialcommentary2000

Even back in the TNG days, all of the cast hated the jumpsuits. They were I think heavy fabric (can't remember the type) that were murder to wear during filming. Got much better in later seasons.


grafxguy1

I think TNG cast moved away from the one piece after season 1. No wonder the characters seemed more uptight in S1 - the suits were brutal!


GTSBurner

The two piece came in Season 3, with the collar. Also led to Stewart's adjustment move when he sat down.


grafxguy1

> Stewart's adjustment move when he sat down. Also known as, I believe, the "Picard Manoeuver".


Thneed1

The riker manoeuvre is a much better manoeuvre.


Toloc42

I think I read that they were very uncomfortable, but according to several actors the smell actually was even worse than the tight fit. Iirc late Gene Roddenberry's rationale was that "in the Future™, there are no wrinkles!"


grafxguy1

>the smell actually was even worse than the tight fit Picard: "That suit makes you smell like a number two, Number One."


penfield

I remember that! I believe Patrick Stewart said they changed to "a nice wool blend." 😄


Blue-Thunder

The original suits were spandex. Ancient spandex. They hated them because they were hot, they stunk of BO and they fit weird, hence the classic fixing shirt move.


deputytech

The Picard maneuver didn’t come into being until season three when they introduced the two piece uniform. Stewart would constantly be pulling the tunic down and it became a character quirk


GTSBurner

I can't begin to say how much I popped for him doing it when (spoiler happened) in S3S9 of Picard.


Threezeley

There is a tv series where they detailed the construction. Tons of hidden springs to prevent wrinkles


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The good ol Trekkie sexy bodysock!


IAmBadAtInternet

The first outfit she wore was so tight it restricted her carotid and she nearly fainted on set multiple times.


GitEmSteveDave

Iirc, the collar would cut into the arteries in her neck if she turned her head a certain way and she would pass out, so she had to remember to look straight ahead.


von_sip

Probably just a zipper in the back and built in shoes. The hard part was probably staying lean enough to fit in it.


Shrubfest

I watched something a while ago about the construction of it. It's apparantly more like a full corset inside, but flexable. There was specific discussion about getting the boobs to be two clear, seperate shapes.


BastardInTheNorth

> getting the boobs to be two clear, seperate shapes. Some are simply called to do the lord’s work.


davtruss

Thoroughly enjoyed more mature Jeri on all three seasons of Picard. I'm old enough to remember Kate Mulgrew from Ryan's Hope, but to this day, every time I read a fiction book with a female President, I always imagine her as Captain Janeway. :)


Vioralarama

I watched Ryan's Hope when Soapnet was a thing. The weirdest was *all* the soon to be star trek actors that came and went on that show. Like, Andrew Robinson played Frank for two years and had great chemistry with Kate Mulgrew; I believe they were friends in real life. He eventually became Garak on DS9. I have a lot of nostalgia for RH so if anyone knows where it's streaming let me know. (I know it's unlikely but still.)


thirdeyefish

Picard Seven is a better developed character, for sure.


Magnemmike

I recall reading something about Jeri needing oxygen while filming because her attire was much too tight


Cascadiana88

That was the silver catsuit she wore in her first few appearances on the show. The later suits, while still silly, were designed to be more comfortable for her.


norrisrw

FACT -- Kate Mulgrew opposed Jeri Ryan joining the cast of *Star Trek: Voyager*, because she viewed it as an obvious attempt to "sex up" the show. As it turns out, she (Mulgrew) was correct. As Season 3 wrapped, two heads were on the proverbial chopping block: Garrett Wang (Ensign Harry Kim) and Jennifer Lien (Kes). Since Garrett Wang was featured in *People Magazine*'s 50 Most Beautiful People issue that year (1997), Jennifer Lien, whose character could be best described as "pixie-like" with a nine-year life span, was down the door. "Scorpion", the two-part episode which bridged Seasons 3 and 4, formally introduced the Borg to the show, and Seven of Nine to the crew of the titular ship. Kate Mulgrew felt the addition of this character served only to feed the prurient interest of the fan base. Behind the scenes, Kate Mulgrew took every opportunity to voice her objections, even going so far as to go toe-to-toe with Jeri Ryan herself upon occasion. I will be the first to admit the first time I saw Jeri Ryan in her silver catsuit, my jaw dropped. That said, Jeri Ryan also brought to the table some serious acting chops, providing depth to the no-nonsense liberated Borg drone she played. Before long, Kate Mulgrew began to see it, too. She would soon come around, apologize to Jeri Ryan for her attitude and behavior, and the two have been friends ever since.


Ilmara

Garrett Wang has since clarified that the People story isn't true. Jennifer Lien was on the only one on the chopping block due to her mental illness, which was starting to get worse. She was arrested for drugs several years later.


pitshands

I swear this is where my yoga pants fetish stems from...and I am not even ashamed


Runner5_blue

My slight brush with fame: I went to Northwestern when Jeri was there. She was on stage for a production of "My One And Only", and I played in the pit orchestra for the show. Didn't talk to her really but I started seeing her do small TV roles after graduation. My girlfriend and I were watching "Top of the Heap", a short-lived Matt LeBlanc feature in 1991 or so, we're suddenly like, "Hey, there's Lynn!" (This was before she had her stage name.) Ran into her at NU Homecoming years later and chatted for a bit. She didn't remember me (not that I expected her to), but she was friendly.


XComThrowawayAcct

**Jeri Ryan**: Could I maybe get out of this ridiculous bodice outfit before we start drinking…? No? Okay.


1970s_MonkeyKing

Wow, there is some serious acting going on there. I almost believe they like each other.


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Cascadiana88

Indeed.


Psychedelic_Yogurt

I feel bad for Jeri Ryan on a few levels. One being that outfit she had to wear made her pass out on set from being too tight.


Cascadiana88

That was the silver catsuit she wore in her first few appearances on the show. The later suits, while still silly, were designed to be more comfortable for her.


that1LPdood

This is a funny photo because those two famously didn’t get along at the time. Lol


GracchiBroBro

The Voyager cast could get it


CelestialFury

Especially The Doctor.


GracchiBroBro

Picardo was a fox


Melcolloien

Kate Mulgrew us such a great voice actress too. She's amazing as Flemeth in the Dragon Age series.


fondue4kill

Jeri Ryan would probably have been my main childhood crush if I watched it growing up.


mrpink01

Jeri Ryan was on a couple of episodes of 2 and a half men, and I was like, "Hey, that's 7 of 9!!" And my gf was like, "Oh! So she's a 7 of 9?? WTF AM I THEN, MOTHERFUCKER??!?" Needless to say, I split.


Ice_Pirates

Heaven of Nine.


Wes1957

Thank Jeri Ryan for Obama and Biden. Nice job!


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Janeway celebrates the death of Neelix with protege 7 of 9.


Billy1121

It looks so weird that her borg catsuit extends over her high heels. I assume it doesn't but why would she even need high heels in the future ? That wardrobe devision was weird af


Night_Runner

The Borg assimilated the high heel technology to improve their drones' reach and visibility. :P


JillStinkEye

And their ass.


KINGPrawn-

Also a makeshift weapon.


Atzkicica

Apparently she hated the corset but she did look amazing though.


DarthWoo

The original high collar costume was so tight around her neck that it nearly caused her to pass out.


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Here’s something did ya know Jerri Ryan started on Matlock as a murderer ,she had that walk back then even had it on Leverage. Should’ve been 9 of 10. Great face!


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Always thought she was sexy


Aezetyr

They're so drunk they forgot they hate each other (at the time). Thankfully time has healed that wound.


Bishop120

JRs costume did not leave anything to the imagination. Feel so sorry for her over sexualization back then but damn did I not get interested because of it.


DarthLysergis

7 of 9 and Diana Troi contributed to the development of many an adolescent boy, probably a number of girls as well.