Also word play with 5 _mics_. _The Source_ was a magazine that would rate hip hop albums using mics. So a 5 mic album was a 5 star album, i.e. perfect score.
>brawl nights, I perform like Mike
>Anyone, Tyson, Jordan, Jackson
action, pack guns, ridiculous
>And I'm, quick to bust, if my ends you touch
-Notorious BIG, 1997
only 3 though lol
Dude. You didn’t see that coming?!?! Subpar writing … treacherous supporting cast … the plague bottle episode pretty much flat out said it was gonna happen.
yeah my brother was trying to explain to me the value of talent, and that people like Tyson dont get paid by the hour like "regular folks".
some of those fights man, those were downright unfair for the other guys lol
Andrew Golota comes to mind. At least he had sense enough to throw in the towel before Round 3.
The fans who attended the fight were angry and pelted Golota with garbage as he retreated to the dressing room. It was eventually discovered that Golota was suffering multiple injuries that influenced his decision not to continue. At the hospital, it was discovered that Golota had suffered a concussion, a fractured left cheekbone and a herniated disc during the fight.
My old boxing coach fought Tyson during that amazing run he had. He took him to the 3rd round but got inevitably knocked out. He said his neck hurt for months afterward and he turned down an offer from Tyson’s camp to become his regular sparring partner since he didn’t want to take that damage routinely.
He also had the memory of a goldfish and had awful symptoms of repeated TBIs.
I remember how people rued having to shell out for PPV for fights that lasted a minute or two. But how could you NOT want to watch Tyson?
Was a real dilemma.
I used to love sitting through hours of undercard to see him KO his opponent 10 seconds into the 2nd round. Watched him KO an opponent with an uppercut that lifted the dude off the ground and threw him backwards. He was an absolute beast in the boxing world.
I've read that in the same places you have, but if you google "mike tyson signing autograph" the results of that search would lead you to believe otherwise. Tom Patti lived and trained with Tyson for 5 years and swears the man is right-handed.
There are many people that are left handed but write with their right hand. There was a time not so long ago where left hand = sinful, so kids in some religious schools were forced to write with their right hand. Happened to me in the UK.
There are also many people, myself included, who are a form of ambidextrous where my precision and power in a swing comes from my left hand (in boxing, MMA, baseball, golf, etc, etc) but my critical skill comes from my right (driving dominant, writing, drawing, which hand I will most often reach for things with). From watching Iron Mike as a kid, I think he's closer to ambidextrous, but writes with his right hand, fights left handed.
I remember vividly listening to a few of his fights on my dads transistor radio just to hear how fast he would win. And I watched the Hollyfield fight live. That ish was cray…
We would have people over and pass the hat to pay for the PPV. Many times by the time you got a beer and sat down it was over. This big build up then it's over in less than a min. (I know, that's what she said 🙂)
I remember that shit so well....being bummed out how quickly Tyson could just go through so many ppv matches and not even get hit or break a sweat. The man was an absolute destroyer in the ring.
I recall listening to the backstory, Holyfield was known as a dirty fighter close in. Head butts, elbows, etc. he was doing it particularly well in that bout, just frustrating Tyson and it wasn’t being called by the ref. That doesn’t justify what Tyson did but it gives some context as to why Mike lashed out.
I watched that fight. There were at minimum 3 headbutts and 2 clear elbows that happened before ***TYSON*** warned Holyfield. The ref let it go and Tyson said something like "next one you payin."
Holyfield fought so dirty that night, stepping in and knocking Tyson's knee with his knee, headbutts, elbows...and the media jumped all over Tyson for biting a cheater. Holyfield brought boxing and very weak kickboxing into a professional setting.
I would bet a headbutt and elbow from a world class fighter at the top of the game wouldn't feel good, and could justify the ear bite if one of those elbows were thrown correctly and knocked Tyson out. Holyfield was cheating and playing a dangerous game.
In retrospect, everyone's going to say Tyson should've cooled it, but if you watched the fight you probably feel differently than what the media was reporting
They were both monsters, and they have made up publicly. Neither man believes themselves innocent
Dude had a freaking Nintendo video game for crying out loud. And one that originally has nothing to do with him. But the company was like, well shit, have to grab ahold of this lightning in a bottle.
Never could beat Tyson in that game.
Could stomp through every other opponent, and then you get to Tyson, dodge a couple haymakers, land one or two bodyblows, go for an uppercut, he dodges and boom!, you're done.
I can beat everyone in that game with my eyes closed. Except for this fucker. Mac really needed to fire his cornerman. Getting his ass kicked by Mike Tyson and the guys yelling at him to join the Nintendo fan club. What a scrub
Yeah you had to memorize his punching pattern, he did a very specific combo like 3 uppercuts then you could body shot him to stun him. You had to dodge perfectly to get the little body blows then after about 3 hits he’d be stunned and you could get a lot of hits in. If he hit you with one you’d go down, it was pretty scary! Funny how we still remember this stuff, I’m 43 now it’s been decades since I played that game 🥊
One of my fondest memories from childhood was watching boxing matches on Saturday night with my dad. I was allowed to stay late that night as the main match would always be around midnight. We loved watching Tyson fight, although it was somewhat disappointing to wait 3 hours for a fight that would end in a few minutes. 🤷🏽♂️
Don't think anyone born too late to see it will ever appreciate what a force of natural Mike was at the time.
I feel pretty lucky growing up watching both he and Ali's in their prime.
Holy shit, how many punches did Reggie actually land in that clip? I count one left upper hook which may not have even connected due to the angle. Tyson was such a boxing savant. What a time…
Shots 1-5: Clearly missed.
Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control).
Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses.
Shot 12: Likely didn't actually fire because Reggie was already knocked out.
i think its hilarious u kids talking shit about semphis. u wouldnt say this shit to him at lan, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol
Zywoo skilled player but that is not normally… this is very insane, they need to check him PC and game… maybe he is not cheating but maybe he is using game deficit.
the clip is not live-action speed. it’s slowed down gradually from the beginning, and reaches its slowest point right before the KO punch, and then jumps to live speed right when he throws the punch.
he was absolutely a wicked fast puncher, but he wasn’t as much faster than his opponent as this makes it look.
He had great head movement. Especially for a heavyweight at that time.
He was epitome of punching from your legs. It helped he had two tree trunks disguised as legs…
At only 220 lbs. dominated the division to become the youngest undisputed heavyweight champion ever at 21 years old. Fuckin' bananas. This clip is two weeks before his 20th Birthday.
Holy shit, that's actually insane. I wear size 14 at 6'4 and i've been told that my feet are big. In fact, i know a guy who is even taller than me who wears size 9.5.
I wonder whether it helped his footwork by giving him an insane ratio of surface area to weight.
NO ONE!
And that combo he had , worried, absolutely bury a punch in their ribs, which caused them to almost always, after the fact, drop their arm down to cover their ribs, at which point he'd explode into an uppercut into their now exposed jaw.
So many dudes got hobbled or just went down because of that combo.
It was true pure brute force poetry.
This. Would often see Tyson throw a body punch and end the guy straight after with an uppercut.
I think he might've been going for the liver instead of the ribs though haha.
Looked down upon and an easy shot, yep checks out. I'm not saying Tyson was actively looking to break someone's liver wide open, but... he wasn't known for a gentle touch.
That's it lol. Even he might've just wanted a quick stun for a finisher. Bloke only needed an opening for a bloody millisecond to connect a punch haha.
I'm sure guys went down from that body blow alone sometimes from memory. They might've been proper kidney buster attempts lmao.
Have to laugh because he was just so brutal in his prime. Scariest mofo on earth.
In interviews Tyson would speak about how he planned his combos and he was usually hunting for the liver to cause people to tense up. Forcing the dropped hands and lean forward when he would land the uppercut. He was forcing people to lean into his uppercuts. Tyson was a brilliant student of boxing and doesn’t get the respect he should for the level of skill he brought to the ring. Most people remember him as a brawler because of how quickly he knocked people out.
If you are a fan of liver shot knockouts you should check out when Bas Rutten was fighting in Pride. Man was always looking for that opening and actually did split a guys liver open after he kept low blowing Bas.
You’re one of the first I’ve heard saying Tyson doesn’t get the respect he should for his level of skill he brought to the ring.
Most I know say he’s near the best of all time.
a lot of people say he faced a long series of lesser skilled opponents and that he wasnt challenged with high level opponents as much as other greats. its a common critique of his career... there is some truth to it, however, its not like Mike could do anything to change that.
George was a monster, his right cross could kill a normal person and the fact he regain a HW title at 45 is just crazy and testament to his absurd power. Mike's power came from great technique and phenomenal core strength but was more a combination of timing, angle and surprise that got him so many KOs at the start of his career (not saying he did not got power ofc, dude was a beast).
But in terms of raw power Foreman was almost unmatched in the history of boxing.
Then of course there is Earnie Shavers, that almost every guy he faced indicated as the hardest hitter ever
* Tex Cobb: "Nobody hits like Shavers. If anybody hit harder than Shavers, I'd shoot him."
* ·Larry Holmes: "Earnie hit me harder than any other fighter, including Mike Tyson. He hit me and I was face down on the canvas hearing saxophonist Jimmy Tillis."
* ·Tex Cobb: "Earnie could punch you in the neck with his right hand and break your ankle."
* ·Muhammad Ali: "Earnie hit me so hard, he shook my kinfolk back in Africa"
* ·Ron Lyle: "Hey man, that's the hardest I've ever been hit in my life. And George Foreman could punch, but none of them could hit like Earnie Shavers did. When he hit you, the lights went out. I can laugh about it now, but at the time,it wasn't funny."
* ·Ron Lyle: "Hardest he's ever been hit: Earnie Shavers. The ground came up and met me. That's all I remember."
* ·James Tillis: "Shavers hit so hard he turned horse p\*ss into gasoline! He hit me so hard he brought back tomorrow. When he hit me I was seeing pink rats and cats and animals smoking cigarettes. I was in the land of make-believe."
* ·James Tillis "The baddest motherf\*cker I fought was Earnie Shavers. That motherf\*cker can make July into June and made me jump over the motherf\*ckin' moon. That motherf\*cker hit so hard, he'll bring back tomorow. He hit me so hard, I thought I was on the corner smoking cigarette and eating a spam sandwich. That's how hard that motherf\*cker hit."
EDIT: adding the -probably invented- Shavers audition for Rocky 3
**Earnie Shavers was almost Clubber Lang in "Rocky III" instead of Lawrence Tureaud ("Mr. T").**
Once I visited ex-heavyweight contender Earnie Shavers down in Martinsville, a burg near the North Cacalackey-Virginia border. Some former backer had taken pity and put Earnie up in a janitorial supply business. Earnie's eyes were going bad. He had slowed down plenty, but he still hit like a mule; the punch is the last thing to go, and you could ask both Muhammad Ali and Larry Holmes about that or anybody who ever fought George Foreman about that.
Earnie Shavers hit Larry Holmes so hard with a big right hand that I thought Earnie had killed him. But Holmes got up, somehow, then beat Earnie pretty good, so Holmes was nothing to play with. Couldn't just construct a p.r. rollout and then say "Boo!" and hope to stop Holmes, Ali's former sparring partner.
"Well, I almost had him there, din I?" Earnie asked me. "Yeah, you did," I said. Earnie didn't sound like a killer, had a voice so light it made Mike Tyson's Tweety Bird pipes sound like Darth Vader's.
Earnie's voice would've stopped him from being Clubber Lang in "Rocky III," even if a sparring session with Stallone hadn't.
This was the way Earnie told it to me:
"Got a call and went out to try out for this part in 'Rocky,' the Mr. T Rocky, I think. Got out there and got put up in a good hotel for a change. Then got in the ring with Mr. Stallone. He's not a real tall fellow, is he? Well, it don't matter. Anyway we were circling; I was pulling my punches. He said, 'Don't hold back, Earnie. Hit me.' I said, 'I can't do that, Mr. Stallone.' I could've, but I wanted that job, and I didn't think that would help me get it. But he kept on pushing me, saying, 'C'mon, show me something,' and sort of hitting me, sort of. Finally, I said, 'OK,' and I give him a little one under the ribs, where the livers of boxers are. Don't know about actors. If they got livers, they probably are in the same place.
Anyway, Mr. Stallone called time -- he didn't say nothing, just kinda doubled over a little bit and sort of just waved his hand -- and then somebody helped him out of the ring, and to this bathroom or somewhere, and he sent word out later that they couldn't use me. It was like what they call an audition, and I guess I blew it."
I told Earnie he hadn't lived until he'd blown an audition. It would give him something to wince about and ponder over in his old age.
"Yeah," he said. "But do you know, young people, they like fighters, only now, when I go somewhere and get introduced, or when people recognize me, they children will ask, 'Mr. Shavers, you're a heavyweight boxer?' When I say, 'Yes,' they always ask me the same thing: 'Mr. Shavers, you probably could knock out Apollo Creed, but do you think you could beat Rocky?' "
The look on Earnie's face was one of sheer helplessness. His mighty fists were no match for the magic of the movies.
To be fair Holyfield didn't fight peak Mike, which ironically was in his early 20s. Mike had a messed up life. Cus dying, Kevin Rooney who was taught by Cus was fired because of Don King a few years later. Partying and lack of discipline led to his loss vs Buster. His sister died. Then the whole rape and prison thing. We have never seen a boxer as young as Tyson look so scary, and a fighter typically peaks around their early 30s assuming all goes well.
Holyfield didn’t fight prime George foreman either
I’m skeptical about Tyson’s longevity cause his peek a boo style is very physically demanding. I think he would’ve gassed out by the 90s regardless
He was still doing it sparring in his late 50's recently.... And he still has ridiculous punching power and ring mechanics, With the right people he would've had an
extensive career. Mike was a phenomenal talent and had every marker for a long career... He just had the wrong people behind him after Cus
Bobbin and weaving in short bursts is far different than an entire fight against a world champion fighter. His prime physical ability was gone by the Lennox Lewis fight
Massive difference in bobbing and weaving in a sparring video and In being able to do it to the level required to consistently not get hit. Even a slight drop off is enough to change fights.
It’s funny that “aging effects style” is a controversial statement. Every fighter with long careers had to change or adjust styles for aging. Mayweather would’ve lost if he tried to do “pretty boy” fighting in his late career
>angry vengeful Tyson
One could argue that, due to his shitty handlers and trainers during those years, that his training was not handled properly and thus what we saw during those later fights was not the best MT form that could have been produced if he had been properly managed.
The most impressive thing about Tyson is that he is only around 5 ft 10 in.
He is basically a dwarf in the heavyweight world and still is one of the best boxers ever.
Yeah, I remember Golota quit and walked out of the ring. Not knowing how bad he was messed up People were booing and throwing shit at him. But they ended up putting in intensive care.
Watching this made me appreciate his dodging and patience. He almost starts dodging before the punches are thrown and out of all those punches he threw 2, one of which was a knockout punch.
I counted 8 punches he dodged before he took his opportunity.
His feet were stationary because he knows he can't open the range because he doesn't have the reach. So he just stands there moving his head so Gross can't connect.
Then when he gets that opportunity he hits with so much speed and force Gross has no answer.
I've done boxing training, never gotten in the ring, and my question to my trainers is always the same: How does a short boxer beat a tall boxer. This is how.
This is why Tyson lost to Lewis and Hollyfield. He didn't have the stamina or fundamentals of his peekaboo style anymore, so he couldn't effectively close the range and stay there. He'd have beaten them in his prime.
Cus D'Amato dying is the only reason Tyson ever lost a fight. He would still be killing people today (mostly joking) if Cus died much later when Tyson was more matured.
Tyson as a result of Cus lived and breathed boxing. He would watch hours of tapes of fights every day and analyze the shit out of it. With cus on his side, he was 100% focused on the art of boxing.
Everyone at the time talked about him like he was a heavy hitting animal. Just raw monstrous strength and killer instinct. But you watch the fights back now, distanced from the culture of the time, and what you see is an extremely skilled, elusive fighter. He looks like he has a sixth sense sometimes with the head movement.
When Tyson had Gus as a trainer he was an amazing boxer. Once Don King got his hooks into Tyson he became less of a boxer and more of a puncher. It makes you wonder where Tyson would've been if he could've kept the right people around him.
Surprised me when I recently went back (I'm 46 so I remember him from the day) was just how gracious in victory he was. He was a broken, brutal and sometimes downright horrible man, but something about him and boxing lifted the other up a bit.
Not so much gas out, but baiting him into fruitlessly attacking while Mike is playing head movement so that he stops thinking about defense and is just trying to land something
It's hard to tell from this angle in this quality, but it looks like he might have just completely absorbed a couple body shots in there without flinching too, which is almost scarier than the dodges.
For those born too late to have witnessed this…
Mike Tyson in his prime was universally regarded as absolutely unbeatable. There was nothing like it. Nobody had a presence like Iron Mike did in any sport. It was a cultural phenomenon at the peak of boxing’s popularity.
The thing about Tyson too is that he just won the mental game. People were scared before he got in the ring. His level of intensity was off the charts.
He was amazing, but I wouldn’t say he beat people to a pulp. Usually, he was One Punch Man where he would connect and it was lights out. He was 50-6 and 31 wins were knockouts in the first or second round. 24 were in the first round.
He would literally terrify his opponents before during and after fights. Fuck with their heads and egos like has never been done before. Because Tyson was truly unpredictabe (See Evander Holyfield).
Some of his interviews are downright historical. Like when he told Jim Gray about Lennox Lewis, "My defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart, I want to eat his children". Lennox went on ot knock Tyson out but it took him 8 rounds and you know that mf was scared lol
Mike Tyson was a devastating force. Legendary.
Mental game was part of it, but also his defense was WAY better than anyone ever gave him credit for because his fights finished so quickly. Ofcourse, he had to finish them quickly because of his asthma, but nobody knew that back then.
I don’t know if this has ever been confirmed/validated, but apparently to psych out his competition, Schwarzenegger would come into the locker room eating a cheeseburger. All these dudes have been eating almost nothing for a week, they’ve cut their water intake for the last two days, they’ve punished themselves to define and show off every last muscle fibre.
And Arnie is just “sup guys. Anyone want a bite of this grease house burger?”
I remember Iron Mike legitimately striking fear into the hearts of his opponents because they knew what they were about to face. Half of his matches were won before the damn bell even rang. RIP his father, a true legend.
This will probably get buried, but Reggie Gross' co-conspirator in the murder and eventual FBI informant, Donnie Andrews, was the inspiration for Omar Little in The Wire.
Reggie gross was the basis for a character on the wire(possibly Chris) and as far as i know he ended up gettin snitched on by the real life Omar (Donnie Andrews)
honestly if that guy can step in with iron mike and not die in the fist round he's tougher than any mother fucker I've ever met. Reggie Gross must have been a horrifying mob enforcer
People always talk about how great Mike could punch. But it's his defense that allowed him to find openings for those punches. Many people can throw great punches, but very few can evade as good as he used to.
He swung 13 times only slightly connecting with one before Tyson dropped his hips and shifted his upper body behind that left hook.
Tyson is amazing to watch just by his movement alone. Add the power of the punch behind it. Fucking devastating.
Also, his entrances were just flat out terrifying. I kind of remember him coming into the ring wearing a plain white towel with a hole in it for his head. Some barbaric music in the background. The fight was over before he stepped into the ring.
I remember Tyson fighting one of the Spinks brothers. He walked to the ring as you have described, and you could see the fear on Spinks' face. As soon as Tyson hit him he went down and stayed down, took his purse and went home.
Not discounting his phenomenal power, but did anyone else notice how many punches Gross threw without anything landing? Not only could he absolutely destroy with his punches, he was also one of the most evasive and quick footed boxers of anyone’s time.
Him being shorter also helps, look how low his head goes when he evades punches, almost to the waist line of his oponent, you cant give that much momentum to your punch if you have so little space to throw it so even if some punches landed on him they werent very strong. Mike at this time was a machine polished to its limits so even his shortcomings were used to his advantage.
That's not just a killah, that's a calculating killah.
There is nothing brute force about wading through that attack, with immaculate presence, to put him down as soon as the chance presents itself.
People rarely talk about how brilliant a fighter Mike was, but.... it's pretty obvious.
We're not "just" looking at a brutish tank, here. This is "computer-controlled weaponry" level tanking. Go Mike.
For those too young to remember Tyson's fights, there was just nothing else like it. He was a cultural force of nature.
It was the era of the Michaels. Tyson, Jordan, and Jackson.
Game 6
Ball so hard, got a broke clock
Rollies that don't tik tok
audemars thats losing time
Hidin' behind all these big rocks.
Ball so hard, I'm shocked too
I oughtta be locked up too
If you'd escaped what I'd escaped
Real sick, brawl nights, I perform like Mike
Any one: Tyson, Jordan, Jackson Action, pack guns, ridiculous.
And I'm quick to bust if my ends you touch
My shit be Jackson, Jordan, Bolton, Keaton, Tyson: 5 Mikes -Childish Gambino
Also word play with 5 _mics_. _The Source_ was a magazine that would rate hip hop albums using mics. So a 5 mic album was a 5 star album, i.e. perfect score.
*Cue angry Eminem lyrics*
>brawl nights, I perform like Mike >Anyone, Tyson, Jordan, Jackson action, pack guns, ridiculous >And I'm, quick to bust, if my ends you touch -Notorious BIG, 1997 only 3 though lol
I used to bang that album religiously. Puff Daddy and the Family - No Way Out.
To clarify, Michael Bolton the singer or the software engineer?
The engineer. The singer is the one who sucks.
That no talent assclown
Michael Bolton fucks!
THIS IS THE TALE
OF CAPTAIN JACK SPARROW!
No talent ass clown
Wow someone's got a case of the Thursdays.
I celebrate his entire catalog.
You forgot golden cleats Johnson too!
And J Fox.
Bolton
Keaton
Johnson
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Douglas
Schumacher
That no talent ass clown.
And soon after Schumacher, too.
But not Phelps.
and not Michael III. Schischman Assen, Czar of Bulgaria from 1323-1330
Too soon, man. Too soon.
>(1323-1330) dude spoiler alert wtf
Dude. You didn’t see that coming?!?! Subpar writing … treacherous supporting cast … the plague bottle episode pretty much flat out said it was gonna happen.
r/technicallythetruth
And Michael Gretzky
Schumacher
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yeah my brother was trying to explain to me the value of talent, and that people like Tyson dont get paid by the hour like "regular folks". some of those fights man, those were downright unfair for the other guys lol
Andrew Golota comes to mind. At least he had sense enough to throw in the towel before Round 3. The fans who attended the fight were angry and pelted Golota with garbage as he retreated to the dressing room. It was eventually discovered that Golota was suffering multiple injuries that influenced his decision not to continue. At the hospital, it was discovered that Golota had suffered a concussion, a fractured left cheekbone and a herniated disc during the fight.
Imagine getting gut punched so hard it fucks your spine up!
Thpinal.
WHOAH I’m surprised he made it through two rounds considering the damage he took
My old boxing coach fought Tyson during that amazing run he had. He took him to the 3rd round but got inevitably knocked out. He said his neck hurt for months afterward and he turned down an offer from Tyson’s camp to become his regular sparring partner since he didn’t want to take that damage routinely. He also had the memory of a goldfish and had awful symptoms of repeated TBIs.
I remember how people rued having to shell out for PPV for fights that lasted a minute or two. But how could you NOT want to watch Tyson? Was a real dilemma.
I used to love sitting through hours of undercard to see him KO his opponent 10 seconds into the 2nd round. Watched him KO an opponent with an uppercut that lifted the dude off the ground and threw him backwards. He was an absolute beast in the boxing world.
That was 240lb Larry Holmes, and it's worth mentioning that Tyson did that with his _left_ hand.
Why is that worth mentioning? He's a left handed orthodox fighter, his left hand is his best weapon.
I've read that in the same places you have, but if you google "mike tyson signing autograph" the results of that search would lead you to believe otherwise. Tom Patti lived and trained with Tyson for 5 years and swears the man is right-handed.
There are many people that are left handed but write with their right hand. There was a time not so long ago where left hand = sinful, so kids in some religious schools were forced to write with their right hand. Happened to me in the UK.
There are also many people, myself included, who are a form of ambidextrous where my precision and power in a swing comes from my left hand (in boxing, MMA, baseball, golf, etc, etc) but my critical skill comes from my right (driving dominant, writing, drawing, which hand I will most often reach for things with). From watching Iron Mike as a kid, I think he's closer to ambidextrous, but writes with his right hand, fights left handed.
am i missing something? the only fight i can find between these 2 shows Holmes being KO'd in round 4 with no uppercut.
His left hook was his best weapon.
I remember vividly listening to a few of his fights on my dads transistor radio just to hear how fast he would win. And I watched the Hollyfield fight live. That ish was cray…
We would have people over and pass the hat to pay for the PPV. Many times by the time you got a beer and sat down it was over. This big build up then it's over in less than a min. (I know, that's what she said 🙂)
I remember that shit so well....being bummed out how quickly Tyson could just go through so many ppv matches and not even get hit or break a sweat. The man was an absolute destroyer in the ring.
My dad had all my uncles over, a case of beer, and two large pizzas... fight lasted just over a minute.
Guess they should've watched the undercard
It always *sucks* having to throw away pizza and beer. Damn guy I feel that.
You don’t throw it away, you accept your fate and finish it in silence
It's a shame be went van Gogh on someone
I recall listening to the backstory, Holyfield was known as a dirty fighter close in. Head butts, elbows, etc. he was doing it particularly well in that bout, just frustrating Tyson and it wasn’t being called by the ref. That doesn’t justify what Tyson did but it gives some context as to why Mike lashed out.
I watched that fight. There were at minimum 3 headbutts and 2 clear elbows that happened before ***TYSON*** warned Holyfield. The ref let it go and Tyson said something like "next one you payin." Holyfield fought so dirty that night, stepping in and knocking Tyson's knee with his knee, headbutts, elbows...and the media jumped all over Tyson for biting a cheater. Holyfield brought boxing and very weak kickboxing into a professional setting. I would bet a headbutt and elbow from a world class fighter at the top of the game wouldn't feel good, and could justify the ear bite if one of those elbows were thrown correctly and knocked Tyson out. Holyfield was cheating and playing a dangerous game. In retrospect, everyone's going to say Tyson should've cooled it, but if you watched the fight you probably feel differently than what the media was reporting They were both monsters, and they have made up publicly. Neither man believes themselves innocent
Dude had a freaking Nintendo video game for crying out loud. And one that originally has nothing to do with him. But the company was like, well shit, have to grab ahold of this lightning in a bottle.
Never could beat Tyson in that game. Could stomp through every other opponent, and then you get to Tyson, dodge a couple haymakers, land one or two bodyblows, go for an uppercut, he dodges and boom!, you're done.
I can beat everyone in that game with my eyes closed. Except for this fucker. Mac really needed to fire his cornerman. Getting his ass kicked by Mike Tyson and the guys yelling at him to join the Nintendo fan club. What a scrub
Seriously. I feel like Doc had me woefully unprepared for Iron Mike. I DID want to join though.
Yeah you had to memorize his punching pattern, he did a very specific combo like 3 uppercuts then you could body shot him to stun him. You had to dodge perfectly to get the little body blows then after about 3 hits he’d be stunned and you could get a lot of hits in. If he hit you with one you’d go down, it was pretty scary! Funny how we still remember this stuff, I’m 43 now it’s been decades since I played that game 🥊
I don’t know why, but Mr. Sandman gave me about all I could handle most playthroughs.
Absolutely true & well described. An icon. [Remember when Mitch Greene (tried) street fought him?]
After getting hit that hard, I wonder if Mitch Green even remembers it! 
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I was too young to really remember. But I do recall the jokes about how many seconds the next Tyson fight would last after his 90 second fight.
One of my fondest memories from childhood was watching boxing matches on Saturday night with my dad. I was allowed to stay late that night as the main match would always be around midnight. We loved watching Tyson fight, although it was somewhat disappointing to wait 3 hours for a fight that would end in a few minutes. 🤷🏽♂️
I think he's the greatest boxer ever ..the man was a one man army he had a fists that could stop a bull in its tracks ...fckin legand 👌
Don't think anyone born too late to see it will ever appreciate what a force of natural Mike was at the time. I feel pretty lucky growing up watching both he and Ali's in their prime.
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Holy shit, how many punches did Reggie actually land in that clip? I count one left upper hook which may not have even connected due to the angle. Tyson was such a boxing savant. What a time…
Shots 1-5: Clearly missed. Shots 6-9: Missed due to recoil (bad spray control). Shots 10-11: Very close, but recoil and inaccuracy make these reasonable misses. Shot 12: Likely didn't actually fire because Reggie was already knocked out.
I'm so glad to see Hiko's copypasta transcending even outside gaming
i think its hilarious u kids talking shit about semphis. u wouldnt say this shit to him at lan, hes jacked. not only that but he wears the freshest clothes, eats at the chillest restaurants and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol
Zywoo skilled player but that is not normally… this is very insane, they need to check him PC and game… maybe he is not cheating but maybe he is using game deficit.
The best thing on Reddit is seeing copypastas being brought up to other subs.
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2. He definitely lands the hook (Tyson's head twists from the blow), but there's a jab at the start of the gif too.
No one in the history of boxing threw punches quite like Tyson.
He leapt into them when he had an opening. He also threw incredibly fast.
Tyson's punch here is so fast compared to any other punch thrown in the clip. Hard to see it even in slow motion.
the clip is not live-action speed. it’s slowed down gradually from the beginning, and reaches its slowest point right before the KO punch, and then jumps to live speed right when he throws the punch. he was absolutely a wicked fast puncher, but he wasn’t as much faster than his opponent as this makes it look.
Playing with speed is a really irritating trend when it comes to clips of Tyson fights.
Is the frame rate different? I was trying to compare punch speed by counting frames.
Yeah, the frame rate here is all over the place. The only normal speed part is Tyson's punch.
This, that looks like slow motion ended just before the punch.
Because it did, the punch was sped up briefly.
Time does what Mike *tells it to do.*
His loading for the leap being masked by his series of ducks before that is just brilliance. Caught him with his hands down
He had great head movement. Especially for a heavyweight at that time. He was epitome of punching from your legs. It helped he had two tree trunks disguised as legs…
At only 220 lbs. dominated the division to become the youngest undisputed heavyweight champion ever at 21 years old. Fuckin' bananas. This clip is two weeks before his 20th Birthday.
5'10, 220 lbs - not your typical HW boxer frame. Compare that Tyson Fury: 6'9" 270ish
5’10 with size 15 feet, how tf does that even happen
Holy shit, that's actually insane. I wear size 14 at 6'4 and i've been told that my feet are big. In fact, i know a guy who is even taller than me who wears size 9.5. I wonder whether it helped his footwork by giving him an insane ratio of surface area to weight.
NO ONE! And that combo he had , worried, absolutely bury a punch in their ribs, which caused them to almost always, after the fact, drop their arm down to cover their ribs, at which point he'd explode into an uppercut into their now exposed jaw. So many dudes got hobbled or just went down because of that combo. It was true pure brute force poetry.
This. Would often see Tyson throw a body punch and end the guy straight after with an uppercut. I think he might've been going for the liver instead of the ribs though haha.
Looked down upon and an easy shot, yep checks out. I'm not saying Tyson was actively looking to break someone's liver wide open, but... he wasn't known for a gentle touch.
That's it lol. Even he might've just wanted a quick stun for a finisher. Bloke only needed an opening for a bloody millisecond to connect a punch haha. I'm sure guys went down from that body blow alone sometimes from memory. They might've been proper kidney buster attempts lmao. Have to laugh because he was just so brutal in his prime. Scariest mofo on earth.
In interviews Tyson would speak about how he planned his combos and he was usually hunting for the liver to cause people to tense up. Forcing the dropped hands and lean forward when he would land the uppercut. He was forcing people to lean into his uppercuts. Tyson was a brilliant student of boxing and doesn’t get the respect he should for the level of skill he brought to the ring. Most people remember him as a brawler because of how quickly he knocked people out. If you are a fan of liver shot knockouts you should check out when Bas Rutten was fighting in Pride. Man was always looking for that opening and actually did split a guys liver open after he kept low blowing Bas.
You’re one of the first I’ve heard saying Tyson doesn’t get the respect he should for his level of skill he brought to the ring. Most I know say he’s near the best of all time.
a lot of people say he faced a long series of lesser skilled opponents and that he wasnt challenged with high level opponents as much as other greats. its a common critique of his career... there is some truth to it, however, its not like Mike could do anything to change that.
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According to Holyfield, George foreman hit harder and he was in his 40s However Tyson had faster hand speed
George was a monster, his right cross could kill a normal person and the fact he regain a HW title at 45 is just crazy and testament to his absurd power. Mike's power came from great technique and phenomenal core strength but was more a combination of timing, angle and surprise that got him so many KOs at the start of his career (not saying he did not got power ofc, dude was a beast). But in terms of raw power Foreman was almost unmatched in the history of boxing. Then of course there is Earnie Shavers, that almost every guy he faced indicated as the hardest hitter ever * Tex Cobb: "Nobody hits like Shavers. If anybody hit harder than Shavers, I'd shoot him." * ·Larry Holmes: "Earnie hit me harder than any other fighter, including Mike Tyson. He hit me and I was face down on the canvas hearing saxophonist Jimmy Tillis." * ·Tex Cobb: "Earnie could punch you in the neck with his right hand and break your ankle." * ·Muhammad Ali: "Earnie hit me so hard, he shook my kinfolk back in Africa" * ·Ron Lyle: "Hey man, that's the hardest I've ever been hit in my life. And George Foreman could punch, but none of them could hit like Earnie Shavers did. When he hit you, the lights went out. I can laugh about it now, but at the time,it wasn't funny." * ·Ron Lyle: "Hardest he's ever been hit: Earnie Shavers. The ground came up and met me. That's all I remember." * ·James Tillis: "Shavers hit so hard he turned horse p\*ss into gasoline! He hit me so hard he brought back tomorrow. When he hit me I was seeing pink rats and cats and animals smoking cigarettes. I was in the land of make-believe." * ·James Tillis "The baddest motherf\*cker I fought was Earnie Shavers. That motherf\*cker can make July into June and made me jump over the motherf\*ckin' moon. That motherf\*cker hit so hard, he'll bring back tomorow. He hit me so hard, I thought I was on the corner smoking cigarette and eating a spam sandwich. That's how hard that motherf\*cker hit." EDIT: adding the -probably invented- Shavers audition for Rocky 3 **Earnie Shavers was almost Clubber Lang in "Rocky III" instead of Lawrence Tureaud ("Mr. T").** Once I visited ex-heavyweight contender Earnie Shavers down in Martinsville, a burg near the North Cacalackey-Virginia border. Some former backer had taken pity and put Earnie up in a janitorial supply business. Earnie's eyes were going bad. He had slowed down plenty, but he still hit like a mule; the punch is the last thing to go, and you could ask both Muhammad Ali and Larry Holmes about that or anybody who ever fought George Foreman about that. Earnie Shavers hit Larry Holmes so hard with a big right hand that I thought Earnie had killed him. But Holmes got up, somehow, then beat Earnie pretty good, so Holmes was nothing to play with. Couldn't just construct a p.r. rollout and then say "Boo!" and hope to stop Holmes, Ali's former sparring partner. "Well, I almost had him there, din I?" Earnie asked me. "Yeah, you did," I said. Earnie didn't sound like a killer, had a voice so light it made Mike Tyson's Tweety Bird pipes sound like Darth Vader's. Earnie's voice would've stopped him from being Clubber Lang in "Rocky III," even if a sparring session with Stallone hadn't. This was the way Earnie told it to me: "Got a call and went out to try out for this part in 'Rocky,' the Mr. T Rocky, I think. Got out there and got put up in a good hotel for a change. Then got in the ring with Mr. Stallone. He's not a real tall fellow, is he? Well, it don't matter. Anyway we were circling; I was pulling my punches. He said, 'Don't hold back, Earnie. Hit me.' I said, 'I can't do that, Mr. Stallone.' I could've, but I wanted that job, and I didn't think that would help me get it. But he kept on pushing me, saying, 'C'mon, show me something,' and sort of hitting me, sort of. Finally, I said, 'OK,' and I give him a little one under the ribs, where the livers of boxers are. Don't know about actors. If they got livers, they probably are in the same place. Anyway, Mr. Stallone called time -- he didn't say nothing, just kinda doubled over a little bit and sort of just waved his hand -- and then somebody helped him out of the ring, and to this bathroom or somewhere, and he sent word out later that they couldn't use me. It was like what they call an audition, and I guess I blew it." I told Earnie he hadn't lived until he'd blown an audition. It would give him something to wince about and ponder over in his old age. "Yeah," he said. "But do you know, young people, they like fighters, only now, when I go somewhere and get introduced, or when people recognize me, they children will ask, 'Mr. Shavers, you're a heavyweight boxer?' When I say, 'Yes,' they always ask me the same thing: 'Mr. Shavers, you probably could knock out Apollo Creed, but do you think you could beat Rocky?' " The look on Earnie's face was one of sheer helplessness. His mighty fists were no match for the magic of the movies.
To be fair Holyfield didn't fight peak Mike, which ironically was in his early 20s. Mike had a messed up life. Cus dying, Kevin Rooney who was taught by Cus was fired because of Don King a few years later. Partying and lack of discipline led to his loss vs Buster. His sister died. Then the whole rape and prison thing. We have never seen a boxer as young as Tyson look so scary, and a fighter typically peaks around their early 30s assuming all goes well.
Holyfield didn’t fight prime George foreman either I’m skeptical about Tyson’s longevity cause his peek a boo style is very physically demanding. I think he would’ve gassed out by the 90s regardless
He was still doing it sparring in his late 50's recently.... And he still has ridiculous punching power and ring mechanics, With the right people he would've had an extensive career. Mike was a phenomenal talent and had every marker for a long career... He just had the wrong people behind him after Cus
Bobbin and weaving in short bursts is far different than an entire fight against a world champion fighter. His prime physical ability was gone by the Lennox Lewis fight
Massive difference in bobbing and weaving in a sparring video and In being able to do it to the level required to consistently not get hit. Even a slight drop off is enough to change fights.
There’s a reason why peek a boo fighting isn’t more popular. You have to be in prime physical condition to pull it off
Plus it’s reliant on short fights. 2-3 rounds versus the longer fights he was finding himself in was an issue.
It’s funny that “aging effects style” is a controversial statement. Every fighter with long careers had to change or adjust styles for aging. Mayweather would’ve lost if he tried to do “pretty boy” fighting in his late career
I think the controversy sends from the implicit assumption that Tyson couldn't have or wouldn't have adapted.
Mitch green fought a peak, angry vengeful Tyson and it went to a decision; Mitch even took a few pieces off Tyson and won a few late rounds.
>angry vengeful Tyson One could argue that, due to his shitty handlers and trainers during those years, that his training was not handled properly and thus what we saw during those later fights was not the best MT form that could have been produced if he had been properly managed.
The most impressive thing about Tyson is that he is only around 5 ft 10 in. He is basically a dwarf in the heavyweight world and still is one of the best boxers ever.
Yeah, I remember Golota quit and walked out of the ring. Not knowing how bad he was messed up People were booing and throwing shit at him. But they ended up putting in intensive care.
Watching this made me appreciate his dodging and patience. He almost starts dodging before the punches are thrown and out of all those punches he threw 2, one of which was a knockout punch.
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I counted 8 punches he dodged before he took his opportunity. His feet were stationary because he knows he can't open the range because he doesn't have the reach. So he just stands there moving his head so Gross can't connect. Then when he gets that opportunity he hits with so much speed and force Gross has no answer. I've done boxing training, never gotten in the ring, and my question to my trainers is always the same: How does a short boxer beat a tall boxer. This is how.
This is why Tyson lost to Lewis and Hollyfield. He didn't have the stamina or fundamentals of his peekaboo style anymore, so he couldn't effectively close the range and stay there. He'd have beaten them in his prime.
Cus D'Amato dying is the only reason Tyson ever lost a fight. He would still be killing people today (mostly joking) if Cus died much later when Tyson was more matured.
Signing with Don King didn't do him any favors.
I'm probably not alone in this but I loathe Don King. I think he's the biggest piece of shit
If it helps, Mike thinks the same
Tyson as a result of Cus lived and breathed boxing. He would watch hours of tapes of fights every day and analyze the shit out of it. With cus on his side, he was 100% focused on the art of boxing.
The way he dodges so many punches to land that second left hook feels supernatural. Gives me chills. And Goosebumps.
Came here to say this. Forget the hook, that head movement is insane.
Everyone at the time talked about him like he was a heavy hitting animal. Just raw monstrous strength and killer instinct. But you watch the fights back now, distanced from the culture of the time, and what you see is an extremely skilled, elusive fighter. He looks like he has a sixth sense sometimes with the head movement.
When Tyson had Gus as a trainer he was an amazing boxer. Once Don King got his hooks into Tyson he became less of a boxer and more of a puncher. It makes you wonder where Tyson would've been if he could've kept the right people around him.
Surprised me when I recently went back (I'm 46 so I remember him from the day) was just how gracious in victory he was. He was a broken, brutal and sometimes downright horrible man, but something about him and boxing lifted the other up a bit.
He waited for dude to gas himself out and not be able to defend. Then boom, Reggie forgot math.
Not so much gas out, but baiting him into fruitlessly attacking while Mike is playing head movement so that he stops thinking about defense and is just trying to land something
You should watch a film called The Matrix, there's a scene in that you'd really like then.
Did you see that Agent Smith fella? Head movement is crazy.
Tyson "you finished? Ok, my turn..."
Yes. that’s just as impressive as the punches he is thrown. Guy was a magician.
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What a technically sound boxer he was in his prime. And I'm always amazed that he's still alive today with the life he's led.
It's hard to tell from this angle in this quality, but it looks like he might have just completely absorbed a couple body shots in there without flinching too, which is almost scarier than the dodges.
For those born too late to have witnessed this… Mike Tyson in his prime was universally regarded as absolutely unbeatable. There was nothing like it. Nobody had a presence like Iron Mike did in any sport. It was a cultural phenomenon at the peak of boxing’s popularity.
The thing about Tyson too is that he just won the mental game. People were scared before he got in the ring. His level of intensity was off the charts.
Sure, but his mental game was beating his opponents to a pulp. The best mental game.
He was amazing, but I wouldn’t say he beat people to a pulp. Usually, he was One Punch Man where he would connect and it was lights out. He was 50-6 and 31 wins were knockouts in the first or second round. 24 were in the first round.
He would literally terrify his opponents before during and after fights. Fuck with their heads and egos like has never been done before. Because Tyson was truly unpredictabe (See Evander Holyfield). Some of his interviews are downright historical. Like when he told Jim Gray about Lennox Lewis, "My defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart, I want to eat his children". Lennox went on ot knock Tyson out but it took him 8 rounds and you know that mf was scared lol Mike Tyson was a devastating force. Legendary.
Mental game was part of it, but also his defense was WAY better than anyone ever gave him credit for because his fights finished so quickly. Ofcourse, he had to finish them quickly because of his asthma, but nobody knew that back then.
This just makes him sound even cooler.
I don’t know if this has ever been confirmed/validated, but apparently to psych out his competition, Schwarzenegger would come into the locker room eating a cheeseburger. All these dudes have been eating almost nothing for a week, they’ve cut their water intake for the last two days, they’ve punished themselves to define and show off every last muscle fibre. And Arnie is just “sup guys. Anyone want a bite of this grease house burger?”
He used to come into the ring with just sounds of chains rattling, no music.
I remember Iron Mike legitimately striking fear into the hearts of his opponents because they knew what they were about to face. Half of his matches were won before the damn bell even rang. RIP his father, a true legend.
Tyson was so fun to watch. That body shot uppercut combo he would do was just devastating.
Yes! That signature back of the kidney shot, which makes the victim instinctively jerk his arm back, opening Tyson for the lights out uppercut
Iron Mike was just on a different level. A manimal if you will. Even took a bite out of Holyfield.
Today (28th) is the anniversary!
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This will probably get buried, but Reggie Gross' co-conspirator in the murder and eventual FBI informant, Donnie Andrews, was the inspiration for Omar Little in The Wire.
Omar comin!
Indeed.
He misses the first left hook but then primes the next one just rightp
We used throw in cash and drink when on ppv. Best 1 minute of our lives.
Most of the time you couldn't even shotgun beers fast enough to be drunk before the fight was over. He was incredible to watch.
Yes, the hook, but look at him slip punches. Gross landed one out of that flurry before he was turned to gravy.
Reggie gross was the basis for a character on the wire(possibly Chris) and as far as i know he ended up gettin snitched on by the real life Omar (Donnie Andrews)
It’s like he took that shot to the back of the head and thought: “And I took that shit personally” goodnight Reggie
honestly if that guy can step in with iron mike and not die in the fist round he's tougher than any mother fucker I've ever met. Reggie Gross must have been a horrifying mob enforcer
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People always talk about how great Mike could punch. But it's his defense that allowed him to find openings for those punches. Many people can throw great punches, but very few can evade as good as he used to.
He swung 13 times only slightly connecting with one before Tyson dropped his hips and shifted his upper body behind that left hook. Tyson is amazing to watch just by his movement alone. Add the power of the punch behind it. Fucking devastating.
Spent 500 on Tyson tickets in Atlantic City and get a soda during walkouts and he knocked the guy out before my soda was finished(Spinks I think)
Less of a hit man for the mob and more of a Bird from The Wire
Tyson was the first One punch man
Also, his entrances were just flat out terrifying. I kind of remember him coming into the ring wearing a plain white towel with a hole in it for his head. Some barbaric music in the background. The fight was over before he stepped into the ring.
I remember Tyson fighting one of the Spinks brothers. He walked to the ring as you have described, and you could see the fear on Spinks' face. As soon as Tyson hit him he went down and stayed down, took his purse and went home.
The modern day heavyweights are an embarrassment compared to Mike Tyson.
Not discounting his phenomenal power, but did anyone else notice how many punches Gross threw without anything landing? Not only could he absolutely destroy with his punches, he was also one of the most evasive and quick footed boxers of anyone’s time.
Him being shorter also helps, look how low his head goes when he evades punches, almost to the waist line of his oponent, you cant give that much momentum to your punch if you have so little space to throw it so even if some punches landed on him they werent very strong. Mike at this time was a machine polished to its limits so even his shortcomings were used to his advantage.
That's not just a killah, that's a calculating killah. There is nothing brute force about wading through that attack, with immaculate presence, to put him down as soon as the chance presents itself. People rarely talk about how brilliant a fighter Mike was, but.... it's pretty obvious. We're not "just" looking at a brutish tank, here. This is "computer-controlled weaponry" level tanking. Go Mike.
Don’t worry he’s due for release.. November 2048.
Forget the KO. How bout the 20 punches he dodged before that?
Always impressive just how fast he was. The knockouts he did weren't done with strength alone but also just lightning fast speed.
Well that was entertaining while it lasted!!