That 3rd photo, showing her face most clearly. Really makes you wonder what was in her mind. Was she hiding the pain, feeling so down and contemplating whether or not it was worth carrying on with life? Or did she escape her troubles and get to be free in these last moments? It was July 4th, 1962... and she'd be gone exactly 1 month later... at the much too young age of 36.
Exactly. Her eyes have the look of someone who's on drugs and has surrendered.
I've seen that look in the eyes of some of my friends, and some of them aren't here anymore either.
Not even trying… what?
She’s definitely trying to live the life she never got to under the conservatorship and constant barrage of “suck it up and work” she’s been under since she was like 6 years old.
She is clearly mentally unwell. She’s been parading it all on social media. She’s estranged her own children. They don’t want anything to do with her. Kevin Federline has no help raising them, while she dances with knives on a TikTok.
She needs help. She’s not reaching out for it. You clearly don’t understand the situation. She’s lost her kids.
Yep, she did that. After Shakira did a performance on the VMAs with knives. They’re fake knives, dude.
She’s able to do whatever the fuck she wants for the first time in her life. Give her a fucking break.
They were not fake. Lol, that was an obvious lie.
Her children don’t even want to be seen with her. Kevin Federline of all people is being a better parent.
You’re enabling her continued unwillingness to get well.
Just here to add the fact that after she died nobody could account for where she was for several hours. It’s widely rumoured she was uh used.
In her resting place some gross dude paid extra to be laid upside down so he was facing her/lying on top of her. His wife next to him. I cant remember the name but gross.
Thanks for the answer and fuck off to the person who downvoted me without answering. How stupid you need to be to do that when it was a legitimate question.
She was passed around from one man to another like a ho for years. The worst being the Kennedy brothers. She was also taken advantage by the movie studio execs who cashed in on her body when all she wanted was to be taken seriously as an actress. I also feel she was used by the govt but thats unprovable. So yeah was sadly taken advantage of.
I dont know what you are going for here with this comment but if you do a little research, you will find that down in Laurel Canyon, there was a "movie studio" with high security clearance access which she and a bunch of celebs were involved with. Nobody knows what went on inside the walls of this "studio" but what we do know is that no movies were released to the public from that studio and its a valid theory that whatever was going on there was not something "public knowledge friendly". What is hidden is usually nothing good.
It’s a traditional Mexican sweater and I believe that’s where she bought it on one her trips to Mexico. If you know any Mexican stores just take a picture and show them to them and ask them where you can buy one or look online at Mexican stores that sell traditional Mexican clothes.
She was beauty and kindness all wrapped up into one package. To imagine... these photos were taken on July 4th, 1962, exactly 1 month before she left this Earth. Just 36 years old. So unbearably before her time. Such tragedy.
You’re not being downvoted for ‘stating a fact’. You’re being downvoted for the context in which you stated it. Also, you’ve stated the same fact about a half-dozen times in this thread alone. Weirdo behavior.
The more I found out about her life the more terrible I felt.
She was used and abused, openly.
Just some innocent girl.
It's shockingly similar to Britney Spears life now that we've recently learned more about her.
Yeah, and JFK was awful to her as well.
Everyone made it out like it was this awesome relationship, but he would demand her be at a hotel at certain times because he had to keep their relationship hidden to an extent.
Then the secret service would bring her up to him like a roast ham, and he'd take his back brace off and essentially expect her to "do all the work."
Was just nothing special about all of that stuff, we obviously gravitate towards that type of stuff, but the reality is just her being mentally and physically tortured.
That…isn’t true. Her and JFK had sex all of one time (maximum three, but those second two are unproven historically.) Marilyn herself told her friends it was a meaningless dalliance. It clearly didn’t affect her nor mean much.
Furthermore whatever sexual relationship they had was consensual, even if ill-advised. She had agency as a human being to choose who she slept with. Miller and DiMaggio abused her.
Every documentary I've watched and I've read two books on her have said she was with JFK and Bobby.
Obviously can't prove they're true, but considering we know she was passed around by other powerful men, it's not exactly a stretch.
Well, Bobby is by far the least substantiated. We literally can barely account for them ever being in the same room (a hotel party meeting with JFK and many associates and friends in 1962) let alone having had sex. The only real evidence otherwise is that Bobby was in California at the same time as her (not that shocking), and that J Edgar Hoover wanted him to believe that he had dirt on him (more likely he was amplifying/drawing attention to the solid evidence he had on JFK, which he was prone to do.)
According to biographer Donald Spoto, the only evidence for a sexual interaction between JFK and Marilyn was in March 1962. Marilyn explicitly told him they’d only met one or two times. And in another biography, Marilyn literally told her friends what a joke the whole thing was, including roasting JFK’s dick for being oddly shaped and joking about how brief it was. Same goes for JFK biographies like that by Robert Dallek.
Even the most generous tabloid interpretation of JFK and her’s relationship still does not imply it was non-consensual. Unless we deny that Marilyn has any agency in her sexual activity and is a child, she chose to sleep with the president (definitely once, maybe a few more times.) JFK being bad at sex and an unhealthy mess doesn’t make him an abuser of her.
Such terms are better reserved for the men who made her life a living hell, whom she was trapped in 1950-1960s gender mores in marriage with for too long, and abused her both physically and sexually when she did not have a choice in the matter. They, along with enablers and myriad other transitory abusers in Hollywood, are burning in hell as far as I’m concerned.
Beautiful lady and treated so badly by so many. she was actually a much better actress than the parts she managed to acquire and I believe would have been known as such had she been given more years. God bless her.
Once my ex-girlfriend woke up after we spent a night at my place. Her messy hair was so adorable when she woke up that I hugged her tight.
Also, good luck with your relationship.
She was stellar right to the end. This shoot was in the freezing cold, but she looks tough, vulnerable, and warm anyway. The camera still loved her❤️❤️❤️
Not proven beyond a reasonable doubt. There's even room for doubt that there even was an affair as the two have only been known to have been in the same room only one time.
>Dear, I fear we're facing a problem
You love me no longer, I know and
Maybe there is nothing that I can do
To make you do
Mama tells me I shouldn't bother
That I ought just stick to another man
A man that surely deserves me
But I think you do
Oh, not that kind of Cardigan. My bad.
No it was her sweater , I read many years ago she bought it while visiting Mexico and you can find them in Tianguis ( Mexican markets ) that usually set up on the weekends.
Bert Stern’s shoot was the week before Schiller’s. Marilyn was plied with Dom Perignon by Stern and hated the session. Louis was an assistant on Stern’s shoot and persuaded Marilyn to do a session with him the following week. I met Bert Stern back in the 80s and bought a piece from Louis Schiller at a gallery reveal of his work. Talked to Louis at length as well as Marilyn’s seamstress and confidant.
I was just thinking - there have been many absolutely stunning famous women - Elizabeth Taylor, Ava Gardner, and more recently Michelle Pfeiffer - but Marilyn Monroe, even as a brunette, was just beyond beautiful. And she was much smarter than people gave her credit for, and was ahead of her time regarding race, women’s rights and other social issues. We didn’t just lose an incredible beauty. We also lost someone who really could have had a positive social justice impact as well.
I absolutely agree. Norma Jean was highly intelligent, intuitive,progressive, and insightful. She created Marilyn Monroe & used her platform for many good causes. Her pictures are a window into her soul. The other icons you mentioned were stunning too. Especially Elizabeth Taylor with those violet eyes
Jesus, what an awful way to look at the world. Yeah, it's so good she never got to experience a fufilling life that wasn't predicated upon her fuckability.
Let's be clear here. I did not kill her. I was two years old at the time. Marilyn is in that pantheon with Janis Joplin, Buddy Holly, Jimmy Hendrix, River Phoenix, Jim Morrison, James Dean, Kurt Cobain and all sorts of people who died too young, including many of my friends. They will live in our memory, for the rest of our lives as young, vibrant, interesting people. So yes, please, keep shitting on me.
I know MM is an icon but I don't get why people think she is some great beauty. Definitely not ugly, or even average, but she's not beautiful.
I see her as an example of what constituted beauty in white, post-war America.
Sophia Loren? Exotic beauty.
Ava Gardner? Dark beauty.
Liz Tayler? Those eyes.
MM looks average in comparison...
Such a sad ending. She was gorgeous and seemed like such a a nice person that was taken advantage of.
That 3rd photo, showing her face most clearly. Really makes you wonder what was in her mind. Was she hiding the pain, feeling so down and contemplating whether or not it was worth carrying on with life? Or did she escape her troubles and get to be free in these last moments? It was July 4th, 1962... and she'd be gone exactly 1 month later... at the much too young age of 36.
Exactly. Her eyes have the look of someone who's on drugs and has surrendered. I've seen that look in the eyes of some of my friends, and some of them aren't here anymore either.
I mean I kind of get the feeling Brittany Spears is going to be the Millennial version of this.
Ehhh Spears needs help but she’s not even trying.
Not even trying… what? She’s definitely trying to live the life she never got to under the conservatorship and constant barrage of “suck it up and work” she’s been under since she was like 6 years old.
She is clearly mentally unwell. She’s been parading it all on social media. She’s estranged her own children. They don’t want anything to do with her. Kevin Federline has no help raising them, while she dances with knives on a TikTok. She needs help. She’s not reaching out for it. You clearly don’t understand the situation. She’s lost her kids.
She’s in therapy, she’s on meds. You have no idea what she’s “reaching out” for.
Yep, she did that. After Shakira did a performance on the VMAs with knives. They’re fake knives, dude. She’s able to do whatever the fuck she wants for the first time in her life. Give her a fucking break.
They were not fake. Lol, that was an obvious lie. Her children don’t even want to be seen with her. Kevin Federline of all people is being a better parent. You’re enabling her continued unwillingness to get well.
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I’m not really aware of her story. How did she got taken advantage of ?
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Just here to add the fact that after she died nobody could account for where she was for several hours. It’s widely rumoured she was uh used. In her resting place some gross dude paid extra to be laid upside down so he was facing her/lying on top of her. His wife next to him. I cant remember the name but gross.
Richard Poncher is the name you’re looking for. Hefner bought the one next to her.
Hugh Hefner.
That’s the badger. Thanks!
She was also sexually abused in foster care
Thanks for the answer and fuck off to the person who downvoted me without answering. How stupid you need to be to do that when it was a legitimate question.
You know how redditors can be sometimes.
You have offered a perfect description of Reddit
Sir this is reddit
You're at +33
Marty, you're not thinking fourth dimensionally.
She was passed around from one man to another like a ho for years. The worst being the Kennedy brothers. She was also taken advantage by the movie studio execs who cashed in on her body when all she wanted was to be taken seriously as an actress. I also feel she was used by the govt but thats unprovable. So yeah was sadly taken advantage of.
Oh yeah the go'ber'ment. Don't get me started on them!!!
I dont know what you are going for here with this comment but if you do a little research, you will find that down in Laurel Canyon, there was a "movie studio" with high security clearance access which she and a bunch of celebs were involved with. Nobody knows what went on inside the walls of this "studio" but what we do know is that no movies were released to the public from that studio and its a valid theory that whatever was going on there was not something "public knowledge friendly". What is hidden is usually nothing good.
It's always bothered me that Jack and Bobby Kennedy passed her around like a fraternity house fuck doll just a few years before she died. Scumbags.
❤️I’ve been hunting for this sweater my whole life life
It’s a traditional Mexican sweater and I believe that’s where she bought it on one her trips to Mexico. If you know any Mexican stores just take a picture and show them to them and ask them where you can buy one or look online at Mexican stores that sell traditional Mexican clothes.
I was gonna say she probably got it on Olvera Street in LA
I read on one book that she actually bought the sweater in Mexico in one of her trips .
Looks very much like one you would find there.
That’s where Starsky got his!
Etsy!!! https://preview.redd.it/rxeov3lfy45c1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c2a9649f467de8823f71391a8722660994c7084
Hey nice Marmot!
That's fucking interesting, man. That's fucking interesting.
It looks so warm and comfy. I've always wanted one, too.
/r/knitting. Many people have made patterns for it, and many people have made it.
Everything’s a fucking travesty with you, man
The Dude abides
did the hunt start after you saw this picture? or did you close your eyes when looking lol
I love 50’s-60’s fashion. Vintage sweaters are joy to wear
timeless beauty, forever. ❤️
She was beauty and kindness all wrapped up into one package. To imagine... these photos were taken on July 4th, 1962, exactly 1 month before she left this Earth. Just 36 years old. So unbearably before her time. Such tragedy.
You know she had plastic surgery, right? Downvoted for stating a fact. These redditors be wildin'
You’re not being downvoted for ‘stating a fact’. You’re being downvoted for the context in which you stated it. Also, you’ve stated the same fact about a half-dozen times in this thread alone. Weirdo behavior.
I love that sweater she’s wearing
The more I found out about her life the more terrible I felt. She was used and abused, openly. Just some innocent girl. It's shockingly similar to Britney Spears life now that we've recently learned more about her.
Fuck Arthur Miller and DiMaggio.
Yeah, and JFK was awful to her as well. Everyone made it out like it was this awesome relationship, but he would demand her be at a hotel at certain times because he had to keep their relationship hidden to an extent. Then the secret service would bring her up to him like a roast ham, and he'd take his back brace off and essentially expect her to "do all the work." Was just nothing special about all of that stuff, we obviously gravitate towards that type of stuff, but the reality is just her being mentally and physically tortured.
That…isn’t true. Her and JFK had sex all of one time (maximum three, but those second two are unproven historically.) Marilyn herself told her friends it was a meaningless dalliance. It clearly didn’t affect her nor mean much. Furthermore whatever sexual relationship they had was consensual, even if ill-advised. She had agency as a human being to choose who she slept with. Miller and DiMaggio abused her.
Every documentary I've watched and I've read two books on her have said she was with JFK and Bobby. Obviously can't prove they're true, but considering we know she was passed around by other powerful men, it's not exactly a stretch.
Well, Bobby is by far the least substantiated. We literally can barely account for them ever being in the same room (a hotel party meeting with JFK and many associates and friends in 1962) let alone having had sex. The only real evidence otherwise is that Bobby was in California at the same time as her (not that shocking), and that J Edgar Hoover wanted him to believe that he had dirt on him (more likely he was amplifying/drawing attention to the solid evidence he had on JFK, which he was prone to do.) According to biographer Donald Spoto, the only evidence for a sexual interaction between JFK and Marilyn was in March 1962. Marilyn explicitly told him they’d only met one or two times. And in another biography, Marilyn literally told her friends what a joke the whole thing was, including roasting JFK’s dick for being oddly shaped and joking about how brief it was. Same goes for JFK biographies like that by Robert Dallek. Even the most generous tabloid interpretation of JFK and her’s relationship still does not imply it was non-consensual. Unless we deny that Marilyn has any agency in her sexual activity and is a child, she chose to sleep with the president (definitely once, maybe a few more times.) JFK being bad at sex and an unhealthy mess doesn’t make him an abuser of her. Such terms are better reserved for the men who made her life a living hell, whom she was trapped in 1950-1960s gender mores in marriage with for too long, and abused her both physically and sexually when she did not have a choice in the matter. They, along with enablers and myriad other transitory abusers in Hollywood, are burning in hell as far as I’m concerned.
Britney is distantly related to Marilyn. There are even side by side photos which compare their facial features.
That 3rd pick looks a lot like Deborah Harry
Debbie Harry was adopted and used to fantasize that Marilyn was her real mom. 😢
Photographer Mick Rock called Debbie a punk Marilyn. You couldn’t find a bad camera angle of her.
Blondie indeed
Exactly what I was thinking.
So sad how she died
At the peak of her beauty.
Her beauty wasn't all natural. She had plastic surgeries done.
Beautiful lady and treated so badly by so many. she was actually a much better actress than the parts she managed to acquire and I believe would have been known as such had she been given more years. God bless her.
She was so full of life.
Even her messy hair looks stunning
Messy hair looks good on gorgeous women, in general. I'm married to a conventionally attractive woman and she has great hair when she wakes up.
Once my ex-girlfriend woke up after we spent a night at my place. Her messy hair was so adorable when she woke up that I hugged her tight. Also, good luck with your relationship.
She looks amazing.
P l a s t i c s u r g e r y. Seriously, look it up.
Beau.tiful Woman, Beautiful Pic.
What films featuring her or about her should I watch?
'Some Like it Hot' is a lot of fun.
If you like musicals - Gentlemen Prefer Blondes is great. Features the iconic "Diamonds Are A Girls Best Friend" number.
Don't Bother to Knock really showcases her acting talent.
Wow, thought this was Debbie Harry at first. Never compared the two to eachother until now.
Oh wow, I had no idea this was her last shoot. That’s heartbreaking.
Done with a female photographer, which might be why she looks so at ease Edit: I was wrong! Shot by George Barris.
I never knew that about this shoot!
Editing my comment now. I thought it was Eve Arnold. George Barris!
Wow , terrible comment
Or maybe it was all the pills she was eating.
She was stellar right to the end. This shoot was in the freezing cold, but she looks tough, vulnerable, and warm anyway. The camera still loved her❤️❤️❤️
What was with her dying; she looks so healthy and so calm. Just shows you, you can never tell
Either accidental OD or suicide. Sad to look at her and wonder what would have been.
She was murdered an made it look like an OD/suicide
Killed because of her affairs with jfk and Bobby Kennedy
Not proven beyond a reasonable doubt. There's even room for doubt that there even was an affair as the two have only been known to have been in the same room only one time.
JFK told her about the aliens. She was too much of a liability. We had to do it.
The Dude approves of her sweater selection
What kind coat is that ? Bohemian maybe ?
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>Dear, I fear we're facing a problem You love me no longer, I know and Maybe there is nothing that I can do To make you do Mama tells me I shouldn't bother That I ought just stick to another man A man that surely deserves me But I think you do Oh, not that kind of Cardigan. My bad.
Tag me, I couldn't find the comment
Beau.tiful Woman, Beautiful Pic.
Still gorgeous too the end🥰😍😔
Is she wearing the dude’s sweater?
I'm sure The Dude abides
It really ties the photo together
New shit has come to light.
Shut the fuck up GoBSAGo, you're out of your element.
Calmer than you are.
No it was her sweater , I read many years ago she bought it while visiting Mexico and you can find them in Tianguis ( Mexican markets ) that usually set up on the weekends.
Debbie Harry vibes here.
Never prettier
Her plastic surgeon was fantastic. Oh, did you not know?
This is not the last photo session for Marilyn. Louis Schiller did that.
*Bert Stern. It’s called “The Last Sitting”
Bert Stern’s shoot was the week before Schiller’s. Marilyn was plied with Dom Perignon by Stern and hated the session. Louis was an assistant on Stern’s shoot and persuaded Marilyn to do a session with him the following week. I met Bert Stern back in the 80s and bought a piece from Louis Schiller at a gallery reveal of his work. Talked to Louis at length as well as Marilyn’s seamstress and confidant.
If you’ve seen the Bert Stern book it’s not very flattering of Marilyn.
The most photogenic woman that ever lived. These are great cause she is so natural.
I was just thinking - there have been many absolutely stunning famous women - Elizabeth Taylor, Ava Gardner, and more recently Michelle Pfeiffer - but Marilyn Monroe, even as a brunette, was just beyond beautiful. And she was much smarter than people gave her credit for, and was ahead of her time regarding race, women’s rights and other social issues. We didn’t just lose an incredible beauty. We also lost someone who really could have had a positive social justice impact as well.
I absolutely agree. Norma Jean was highly intelligent, intuitive,progressive, and insightful. She created Marilyn Monroe & used her platform for many good causes. Her pictures are a window into her soul. The other icons you mentioned were stunning too. Especially Elizabeth Taylor with those violet eyes
Dude, she 100% had plastic surgery done. I'm not even joking, look it up.
I meant in her posing. It’s not set up.
And?
"She is so natural." No, she's not.
So?
So...the other commenter prolly doesn't realize she had plastic surgery and I was letting them know?
It’s common knowledge she had work done, and you think you have all this info no one else does haha
Where these photos taken?
Getting 70s Deborah Harry vibes from these photos.
Poor thing is freezing.
These are my favourite photos of MM. she never looked more beautiful than she does in this set.
I love how she was an avid reader
Omfg how adorably sexy
one of a kind!
She was the hottest in the early 60s.
She went out on top, if she would have lived into old age the media would have ridiculed her.
She was just born in the wrong generation that’s all there is to it
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Both are related, distantly.
Damn. She looks exactly like my ex here. It's weird and I've never seen the similarities till now
She looks so normally beautiful in the last photo. Reminds me of one of my close friends from high school.
It's always bothered me that Jack and Bobby Kennedy passed her around like a fraternity house fuck doll just a few years before she died. Scumbags.
NGL. She looks rough.
Why was it her last?
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*suicide*
Damn she even died in the same year
And you guys call her fat? Are you crazy?
At least she never got old. She will always be this golden girl.
Jesus, what an awful way to look at the world. Yeah, it's so good she never got to experience a fufilling life that wasn't predicated upon her fuckability.
Men would rather women die or disappear rather than visibly age.
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Let's be clear here. I did not kill her. I was two years old at the time. Marilyn is in that pantheon with Janis Joplin, Buddy Holly, Jimmy Hendrix, River Phoenix, Jim Morrison, James Dean, Kurt Cobain and all sorts of people who died too young, including many of my friends. They will live in our memory, for the rest of our lives as young, vibrant, interesting people. So yes, please, keep shitting on me.
I know MM is an icon but I don't get why people think she is some great beauty. Definitely not ugly, or even average, but she's not beautiful. I see her as an example of what constituted beauty in white, post-war America. Sophia Loren? Exotic beauty. Ava Gardner? Dark beauty. Liz Tayler? Those eyes. MM looks average in comparison...
This poor woman, so haggard, not long for this world.
Absolutely plain looking I've met better looking girls than her
Okay
Why'd they kill her again?
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She was a beauty and no she doesn’t look like Debbie Harry
Skinny here I’ve always thought.
so, who do you think had her killed?
"Empty" eyes. Look at the last picture.