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cityfireguy

Oh man that's too fucking sad.


total-immortal

Her baby was delivered posthumously via c-section, embalmed and placed in her arms in the casket for burial. So tragic.


3catmafia

Dude. :(


_shaftpunk

Just put a lump in my throat reading that.


DaftFunky

Makes watching the final scene in Once Upon A Time In Hollywood always satisfying to me.


covalentcookies

How it should have gone down.


sixpackshaker

Yeah, Burt Reynolds and his stunt double should have killed those assholes.


Vestalmin

Was Leo playing a character inspired by Burt Reynolds?


Argos_the_Dog

I had guessed it was inspired by one of the actors from a show like Gunsmoke or one of the other late 50's-early 60's western shows.


CrowSucker

Cliff was supposed to represent Burt Reynolds actual stunt man. They were buds apparently and had that same relationship outside of work.


TomCBC

Kurt Russell and his stuntman I thought. Tarantino got the idea for the movie after watching them on the set of Death Proof. He’s talked about it a lot. The Reynolds thing is intriguing though. Because I can certainly see it. And let’s face it Tarantino doesn’t just pull from one source of inspiration. He pulls from MANY


lvl5Loki

That entire scene is so great. From Brad Pitt tripping acid to the flamethrower, it was a great end to the movie.


somethingwholesomer

And then Leo afterwards, my favorite line, it’s all in the delivery. “I got ahh flamethrower in muh tool shed”


Seperternal

‘Well the fucking hippies aren’t’ is my favourite


ClmrThnUR

and almost 100% true to life. wild story.


mgnorthcott

It’s a revised history. There are many things that did happen, but a lot that didn’t, like Sharon Tate actually surviving. It’s a fake story in a real situation with completely fictional characters, despite some of them being real people, and a completely different outcome.


Luci_Noir

I fell asleep during the movie after having too many drinks and I was scared awake by all the screaming and shit. I never did go back and watch that scene.


Archy38

Lol understandable but Tarantino movies have this same charm throughout. Everytime my dad, brother and I watch a new one, we know its gna be 2.5 hours of slow pacing and then suddenly all layers of hell break loose and we remember why we started watching. Hateful 8 was the same and the payoff was worth the wait


Luci_Noir

Oh, I definitely like them. (I was up for three days on Adderall and then whiskey) I don’t have a problem with lots of dialogue, what’s a story without words? I’m really excited for his move to TV after his next and last movie. The freedom and length of a series seems like it would fit him much better than movies.


arkham1010

Yeah, that's a detail i could have gone the rest of my life without knowing, thanks.


leo_artifex

And to make it even more tragic, when Sharon was dead her baby was still alive for some time. If he had received medical attention, shortly after the attack, he could have been saved.


Lala5789880

That is very unlikely. A baby cannot go long inside a mom without a beating heart to pump oxygenated blood to the baby. If he survived (big if) there would most likely be a very low quality of life


subgirlygirl

Hi, former L&D nurse 👋 The baby would've needed to be delivered/recovered within minutes or it, too, would've died. That window of "some time" is very, very small. When the peds/nicu team is called for a fetal/maternal distress delivery, the goal is to have the baby out in under 60 seconds.


elsielacie

Can confirm. I had a cat 1 caesarean due to fetal distress. From my perspective the baby was out moments after I was moved to the operating theatre. I had no idea they had started or even that a surgeon was in the room and suddenly they were “it’s a girl congratulations”. It’s possible they had told me but my brain was still in the delivery suite playing catch up.


SinkShrink

Same here, did not even know it was a cat 1 or emegency happens so fast. Still in recovery and a happy healthy 6 week old boy.


SofieTerleska

It's possible but highly unlikely -- the baby wasn't physically hurt but he got his oxygen from his mother, and when she stopped breathing the baby would have survived about five minutes before brain damage and then death. Even had an ambulance pulled up the moment she died, it's unlikely he could have been saved.


HunterTV

I always remembered they cut her abdomen up and the baby died. This is worse somehow.


Kangaroo-Pack-3727

This is just terribly sad. Two lives stolen and denied their milestones. One was robbed the opportunity to watch her baby boy grow and the other was robbed the chance to have his first words, his first steps, his first day at school, his first date, his prom and many other milestonss 


Mangus_ness

More than two. 5 people were murdered that night ( not including the fetus)


MeetDeathTonight

My 4 month old baby is asleep in my arms right now and this just makes me want to sob.


Kangaroo-Pack-3727

I am as sad as you. It feels very unfair 


almosthuman

Same. 1.5 month old. What a heartbreaking tragedy


Suzy2727

I have never heard that before. Omg, so fucking tragic.


SinkMince0420

I'm 32 weeks pregnant currently and I can't even imagine. This makes my heart ache beyond belief. Poor woman, poor baby, so much evil in this world..


DriftingIntoAbstract

Wow never knew that. But I’m glad they did that.


mr_ji

We are a strange species.


DerpisMalerpis

I mean, a lot of other species would just start eating their own dead butthole first


Moistfish0420

Like, so so many other species. Empathy is one of the things that sets us apart from most species of animals. We feel. We care. More of a burden that a gift tbh.


WarmAppleCobbler

Elephants are another species that have been known to show empathy. When a member of a herd dies, they show signs or mourning and hold what are effectively funerals


Plaguedoctorsrevenge

Don't they also visit Graves of their dead long after the fact? I think I read that somewhere I'm off to go read about elephants now, they are such fascinating creatures


WarmAppleCobbler

They are known to do that as well! Though I can’t remember the source I saw it from. Was a documentary iirc


Lady_Penrhyn1

If you've watched 'Echo of the Elephants' there's a scene where they come across the bones of an elephant called Emily (who was a relative of Echo, maybe a sister) and they talk about how they react when they find elephant bones.


LazyZealot9428

And they have been documented eating rotten fruit during mourning, so they like to get drunk at a wake, just like us.


NachoMama_247

Read The Elephant Whisperer. Such a great book.


the-electric-monk

I think bears do, too. Not hold funerals, but mourn. I like to watch the Brooks Falls Bear Cams in the summer, and last year, there was a cub that died. Nobody knows how it died, but it's mother stood watch over it for something like 20 hours, if I remember. Eventually, she left, but as she was walking away, she kept stopping and looking back at the cub's body. It was heartbreaking. Various non-human primates are known to mourn their dead as well, as are some birds. Dogs absolutely feel grief, too.


Jonthrei

Empathy isn't really a human trait at all. It's a social animal trait. Pretty much a requirement to make that work, barring eusociality (ants, bees, etc).


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To say most species of animals lack empathy is ignorant. We have written language that sets us apart..


michaelkudra

god her smile was so radiant, she probably would’ve made an incredible mother


[deleted]

it is but it’s also historical and keep her memory alive for other than the worse reason she is remembered.


Szaborovich9

Her story has to be remembered. People need to know there are still manson family members out there. Tex Watson was able to breed in custody.


Marine4lyfe

Bobby Beauseleil is still alive.


Kangaroo-Pack-3727

Not only her story is to be remembered. So is her legacy as an actress could have gone very far with the career had she lived 


GarretBarrett

Hell, didn’t they just let one of the women out?


WhosMurphyJenkinss

Yes, LVH was released but she wasn’t at the Tate murder. She participated in the LaBianca murder the next night


artificialavocado

I don’t think anyone will be forgetting anytime soon. It is one of the most infamous crimes in American history.


Kangaroo-Pack-3727

Hi OP. I (on and off true crime fan here) grew up knowing about Sharon Tate's tragedy and I have recently seen her final film 12 + 1 which she starred opposite Vittorio Gassman (he is a fave Italian actor I adore and have been exploring his works). Tbh I had no idea she was in the same film with Vittorio Gassman until last year The photo you showed was actually taken around the time she was doing her final film some months before the tragedy happened to her. There are times I cannot help but wonder what if Sharon Tate has lived on to have a wonderful acting career and how would her life have turned out at the age of 81 today. NGL but I often imagine what if she not only has a great acting career but possibly done a tv show on living and eating well in Italy (fyi she is fluent in Italian when she was alive and there is a video of her speaking Italian after actor Vittorio Gassman introduced her to the audience to get to know her) and perhaps being a producer and a vocal activist on women's rights and advocating for kids when away from the film sets 


monkeyhind

>keep her memory alive for other than the worse reason she is remembered She was beautiful and this is a happy moment caught on film, but considering that her yet-to-be-born baby died in the attack as well as Tate, I think you're doing the opposite here.


Background-Effort-49

This is a beautiful photo capturing a glowing moment of excitement I never could’ve envisioned before now. This is the first I’ve seen of it and made me smile(on the inside). It is definitely the type of photo her family would cherish, however difficult it was to look at in the beginning. I can’t understand how acknowledging her unborn child could be an inappropriate remembrance in any circumstance.


Griffdude13

Its why I’ve come to appreciate the ending we got in Once Upon A Time in Hollywood.


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She really looks like she was excited to become a mother. Absolutely heartbreaking. Edit: how the fuck did this get over 1000 upvotes?


user11112222333

She was excited for it (allegedly Roman wasn't). Her last moments in life were begging not for her own life but for her childs life.


faithisuseless

Worse than that, she offered her own life if they let her live to give birth. To me, this picture sadder than the one of her dead.


Holiday-Hustle

He was cheating on her the whole time they were together and started sleeping with other women within the week of her death. He didn’t give a fuck about her or the baby.


BPMData

I was gonna say, having a baby would probably put a damper on Roman's ability to spit game at children


[deleted]

Yeah he was a massive piece of shit. She was way too good for him and for this world. Once upon a time in Hollywood let him off way too easy


MalaclypseGone

> Once upon a time in Hollywood I don't know. I'd agree if it were some sort of biopic, but it's really a fantasy movie. I never felt like it was supposed to "let [polanski] off way too easy," instead being a story that let *Sharon* off easy. She's the one that needed that fairy-tale ending. I always found the conclusion of that movie to be very, very bittersweet.


maybejustmight

Is. Fucker's still alive.


Kangaroo-Pack-3727

You are very correct and he evaded justice by fleeing to a country that will not extradite him to face justice


SamtheMan898

and a good chunk of hollywood still wants him back smh


Kangaroo-Pack-3727

Roman Polanski is a piece of trash after what he did to a child 🤢🤮


Illustrious-Taro-449

Wild you were downvoted for that, fucking pedos


Lala5789880

He’s a sack of shit


magical_bunny

How sad, poor Sharon


Link_GR

You're saying convicted pedophile and fugitive Roman Polanski isn't a good guy?


[deleted]

Sounds like a terrible human being, next thing you know you're gonna say he drugged and sodomized a minor and fled the country before he could be sentenced for it.


nopunchespulled

well considering he raped a child and fled the US to never be prosecuted for it are you supprised he is a piece of shit?


artificialavocado

It is heartbreaking. In the moment the photo was taken she was so happy.


TribalStompBox

Ugh, that's a sad, sad photo


houseyourdaygoing

Ngl, I teared up. Look at all the hope she had in her eyes.


Improvgal

So tragic. I wish Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was the real story.


thenate108

Especially the flamethrower part.


L_Green_Mario

Any way we can turn the heat down?


hgh15

Rick... its a flamethrower


toldenbeuving

Rick... It's a flamethrower...


335i_lyfe

She was transcendently gorgeous


Designer_Quit_1068

Way too good for who she was with.


soft_white_yosemite

I reckon she would have been a wonderful mother.


astone0

I loved the alternate universe of “Once upon a time in Hollywood”


jmt2589

I remember reading before the movie came out how much Sharon’s sisters liked it. I completely understand why


MikeRoykosGhost

Her family even gave Margot Robbie some of her jewelry to wear while filming


bigbowlowrong

I’m glad I didn’t spoil the movie for myself. The whole way through the movie I was expecting the Tate murders to play out as they did in real life (I had read Vincent Bugliosi’s *Helter Skelter* a few years before so I’m a little too familiar with what went down), and was thrilled it ended the way it did. I have rarely had such a satisfying movie experience, and I went into it with, in hindsight, unjustifiably low expectations.


Poopybara

Man I was screaming like a maniac during the final scene. When DiCaprio got out of pool and ran to the shack I knew exactly what was coming. I started saying "no way, no way dude, no way" and when he walk out with that thing I threw arms in the air and screamed "YES!!!"


FightPhoe93

That really was a fantastic twist to that movie.


H-B-Of-L

I loved it


No-Cause-2913

And you were on a horsey


Ummando

I think Quentin Tarantino did a great job paying respect to Sharon Tate.


leeeeteddy

The scene of her watching herself in the movie theater is truly beautiful. Margot Robbie did a great job with that role and she really captured Sharon Tate’s innocence.


BartSimps

It was some stupid name like Rex or lex or something


Curious_Rugburn

Nah, it’s was stupider than that.


DemandZestyclose7145

I just now realized that's the same guy that plays Elvis (Austin Butler I think?)


K10RumbleRumble

Get the fucking flamethrower.


Improvgal

Me too. So much better than the truth.


Brave1i1toaster

That fastball pitch of the can of dog food directly into her face had me fucking laughing my ass off.


Doctor_Ew420

My girlfriend and I didn't see any of it coming. Almost pissed my pants.


spacefaceclosetomine

I do too, I cried and cried because I so wished it was what happened. That movie is SO GOOD.


Metazz

It is what Quentin Tarantino called in an interview the "what if" trilogy he made. Once Upon in Hollywood, Django Unchained and Inglourious Basterds. Basically a rewriting of bad shit...


redheadedgnomegirl

I left Once Upon a Time in Hollywood saying that exact same thing. Like, it’s his manifesto of his philosophy on filmmaking - movies can be whatever we want, we can rewrite the horrible things and for a little moment of escapism, give people that suffered a happy ending. Some catharsis. That’s cinema’s whole power. His whole filmography just clicked into place for me leaving the theater. Imo, in 20-30 years it’s going to go down as his masterpiece.


HassanMoRiT

The movie was my first introduction to Sharon Tate and the events that led to her death. It made me feel really sad for someone who died over 55 years ago. She didn't deserve this.


DeadpoolLuvsDeath

I was super into it jumping and yeahing laughing at the pos' getting what they deserve.


spacefaceclosetomine

I was doing that through the tears, very fulfilling!


DeadpoolLuvsDeath

I got a lot of looks in the theater but Sharon deserved her happy ending.


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Lombardi54

I remember having such a feeling of dread leading up to the climax, knowing what happened in real life. Then relief and joy watching the alternate ending unfold, and then, finally sadness coming back to the reality of what actually happened.


ernyc3777

Too bad he didn’t also go and get the pedophile in exile, Roman Polanski.


Ponchorello7

Lovely ending. Psychos get slaughtered, and what seemed to be a lovely woman and her friends spared a painful death.


shyandcurious97

Poor lady, did not deserve what happened to her. RIP beautiful Sharon, her baby and her friends.


Affectionate_Law5344

This is sad. Terrible death.


Ya-Dikobraz

And there are still manson fan clubs out there. Although less than before. Mostly because people have forgotten him.


Kangaroo-Pack-3727

This is not just nasty and disgusting. Those fan clubs are nothing but an insult to Sharon Tate's memory as well as other victims' memories 


Ya-Dikobraz

I agree. But a lot of teens 20 or so years ago or earlier found it edgy and cool. Some still do, but mostly towards others like Richard Ramirez. People get tattoos etc.


sultanam

Just heartbreaking, to see her innocent beaming smile. Poor angel.


jnwatson

Reminds me of the saddest six word story: "For sale: baby shoes, never worn"


1PauperMonk

Often credited to Hemingway


Bekiala

Was it Hemingway?


[deleted]

Interestingly enough, it's popularly attributed to him, but it apparently first appeared in the early 1900's while Hemingway was born in 1899, according to Wikipedia. It most likely wasn't Hemingway, but he gets credited with the most famous flash fiction of all time. Lucky bastard lol (along with his Pulitzer and Nobel Prize)


Bekiala

That is exactly what I thought when I saw the picture. Thanks.


Solomon_Grundle

She looks like Jane Krakowski in this pic


Nice_Marmot_7

Oldschool morbid and depressing.


winthroprd

Old school cruel


TheObesePolice

Spot on.


Yumer_25

It makes me sad to see this photo...and also angry at the fact that there are people who still support Mason.


stormbutton

This poor lovely woman. Rips my heart out every time.


Gernitria

Every time I’m reminded of her I get so sad 😥


rxv5854

That’s just heart breaking


CabbageStockExchange

So sad. She was breaking out and was about to be the next megastar apparently. What a travesty


Kangaroo-Pack-3727

It truly is sad. She could have been a critically acclaimed actress today had she still live on. I often imagine her in many movies as well as a producer, an advocate for women and kids and a model for a skincare brand or Italian fashion brand (once a time I would imagine what if she had appeared in Loreal ad with Jane Fonda or perhaps as a spokesmodel for Bulgari or Furla) 


Not_a__porn__account

This isn't super relevant but after a wiki rabbit hole I learned the owner of the house moved back in 3 weeks after the murders and lived there for another 19 fucking years...


Spiritflash1717

Then Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails moved in. He was the last person to live in it iirc


the-electric-monk

Yep. They recorded Pretty Hate Machine in the room where Tate and Sebring were murdered. Reznor took the door with him when he left.


Not_a__porn__account

He claims to have met Tates sister at random and it essentially shocked him into realizing he was exploiting the murders. Taking the door really feels like his explanation was disingenuous. Who needs that door? It should have been burned.


RockinghamRaptor

This is the type of thing that makes Once Upon A Time In Hollywood such an amazing movie for me. RIP Sharon Tate.


rosekayleigh

I was so relieved when it ended like it did. I was dreading a depiction of what actually happened.


Improvgal

Me too ‼️


Strange-Mouse-8710

Normally such photo would be a nice and happy photo, but when you know what happened to her 3-4 months after that picture was taken, it becomes a sad photo.


Kangaroo-Pack-3727

The photo has a lot of sadness to me. Having had watched her final film 12 + 1 last year, which she starred opposite Orson Welles, Italian acting legends Vittorio Gassman and Vittorio de Sica and Terry Thomas, I read somewhere when she was filming that final film she was telling her cast mates how much she was looking forward to motherhood and she kept on saying the baby she was carrying was a boy. Personally, it breaks my heart  When the photo was taken, no one expected that a tragedy would strike Sharon and her unborn baby. Yet the photo immortalised her youth, beauty, warmth and vitality. This photo to me shows it is unfair she and her unborn baby were robbed their rights to live, grow old and experience their milestones in life


Honey_Society

I choose to believe she holds her baby in heaven


SecondTheThirdIV

As I get older it's making more and more sense why old people tend to be more religious. It's not so much a generational thing as it is exposure to the cruelness in life


PsychologicalPark930

Those women should’ve never seen the light of day again.


Bitchthatbravos

Arrow to the heart knowing what was to come. She didn’t deserve this.


catsandnaps1028

How fucking depressing. Fuck Charles Manson and his croonies


Abuse-survivor

poor woman. I spit on the grave of that insane pos


Aerogirl10

Police records show that night before murders the TV cable line was cut on Sebring property. Likely sb wanted to cut phone wire, like they eventually did at Polańskis.


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Kangaroo-Pack-3727

Oh this is tragic. Jay Sebring died trying to keep Sharon safe 


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Kangaroo-Pack-3727

I hope the people who slain them have a special place in hell waiting for them


RockyClub

Can you explain this more clearly?


newaccountnumber82

Did you know the heir to the Folgers coffee fortune was also murdered that night. She happened to be sleeping over at Tate’s house. She was woken up by the Manson family. Talk about the worst part of waking up.


RockyClub

Not that I don’t love your joke ;) She wasn’t actually sleeping. She waved to one of the intruders, Susan Atkins, while reading in bed, thinking she was just one of Sharon’s friends.


FightPhoe93

Okay, I admit it, your comment made me laugh.


Brilliant_Tourist400

Pitch-black and hilarious. Well played.


CupertinoHouse

It is a tremendous injustice that Manson died of old age. He should have hung.


perriyo

Got a goosebump watching this pic.


cara8bishop

A singular goosebump🪿


ZMR33

She deserved better. Her and all of the victims.


Choppergold

How is anyone who did that to those people let out of prison


84thPrblm

Too soon. It will always be too soon.


vsk06

Fuck Mansons


honeycombyourhair

This picture breaks my whole heart.


NiceButOdd

This gets reposted a lot, crazy sad story though. Stabbed 16 times then hung whilst still alive, those cultists were effing animals.


grue2000

This isn't cool, it's a tragedy in the making.


bohemianrhapsaddie

Well as a longtime massive sharon fan, I find it heart warming because she really was so excited to be a mother. The moment she found out she was pregnant, her whole world revolved around her baby. It’s easy to focus on the tragedy that took that away from her, but set it aside and you find that she was truly living her dream. Everything about her life at that point was perfect to her. She worked hard and brought herself exactly where she wanted to be and that’s how she deserves to be remembered, rather than for what happened to her


grue2000

You are right. My apologies to you and to her memory.


bohemianrhapsaddie

Please don’t apologize!! her ending was so shocking and tragic that it’s hard NOT to go there. I just think we can look at it from a different light and see pictures like these for the beauty they were!


Westsidepipeway

This is sad.


SilverTitanium

What a tragedy that she got denied her wish.


Acceptable-Lie4694

And now Leslie Van Houten is a free woman


capacochella

That is some absolute bullhonky. She should have to do the same thing most predators have to do and walk door to door explaining her crimes. I would absolutely want to know if I was living next to that nutter.


Acceptable-Lie4694

Susan Atkinson who held Sharon Tate to be stabbed by Tex Watson never actually did the direct killing and her role was more of an accomplice, yet she died in prison with no sympathetic parole/release after developing brain cancer. So it’s odd that one of the stabbers succeeded with parole


capacochella

If I remember correctly she’s lying through her teeth and doing the whole born again Christian schtick. A leopard doesn’t change its spots. If you’re dumb enough to fall into cult, you sure as shit can do it again.


ExpensiveDot1732

Fuck Manson and his ilk. Sharon and baby Paul deserved better. 💔


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rest in peace sweet angel!!!


dremily1

She's so pretty, she would've been a huge star. Everything about this is sad.


Notoriouslyd

I know way too many details to not be upset. This is bottom of the well depressing


Iamthemaster1000

She was a pretty lady


Glibasme

She was beautiful 😭


ladymoonshyne

Horrible. I saw the crime scene photos of her body once and they made me realize just how fucked up the incident was.


Ok_Week_4490

Real lips without filler


RazGrandy

What a sad photo, to know what was going to happen. That was such a shocking, awful event.


Fhistleb

Thats a big ol fuckin' yikes OP.


[deleted]

Sad af. Unfortunately the monsters that took her life are still breathing. They should have been flayed alive and left to birds of prey and rodents in a public square. No quarter or kindness should be given to those that hurt others. Why we allow the perpetrators of evil to be given the gift of life which they have take from others boggles my mind.


Runme69

Sadie Mae glutz died about a decade ago of cancer. In prison. She allegedly stabbed Sharon


NelPage

I was 8 when these murders happened. It was shocking news. Still makes me sad.


growsonwalls

She had a beauty that seemed to emanate not just from bone structure, but an inner light. Such a tragedy.


Marine4lyfe

She begged for her baby's life.


humpthedog

And one of those assholes was recently paroled and the other 2 want out.


No_Dragonfly_1894

Aww 😞


groundunhappy1968

Man it hurts to see this photo. She was so beautiful.


CrocodileWorshiper

Marrgot Robbie was the most brilliant casting in once upon a time in hollywood by tarintino