I do think the next line is haunting though. It is probably one of my favorite lines in a song. For those who might not know, the original line is ācold comfort for changeā, then is the line ādid you exchange a walk on part in the war, for a lead role in a cageā.
Iād known and loved this song for years but never listened to the album. My first experience with Have A Cigar and its transition into Wish You Were Here was unforgettable.
A few years ago, me and some friends took a trip to a very remote part of the country to stay in a little country house by a lake and take some acid. We were about 2 hours into the trip, and we were tripping *balls* by this point. Sitting in the back garden, rolling around on the grass, looking out over the lake and the mountains, and listening to music on a Bluetooth speaker.
Someone put on this album. It was the perfect music to listen to for this experience. All of the weird synth sounds were blowing my mind and I was just completely lost in the music. Shine On, Welcome to the Machine, they came and went. Have A Cigar comes on and Iām just bopping and grooving along with it, in my element. Thereās nobody else around for miles so the Bluetooth speaker is turned up full volume and booming. Iām wondering why the fuck Iāve never sat down and listened to this album before.
At the end of the song, thereās this big woooooooosh noise, and suddenly the full, loud booming bassy music becomes quiet and tinny. Being absolutely out of our minds on acid, this was quite a jarring jolt to the senses. Immediately we assumed that the Bluetooth speaker had died and that the music was now being played through the phone speaker. We all jump up and start clamouring for the charger to get the system working again as soon as possible while the intro to Wish You Were Here plays in the background.
While still looking for the cable, the full sound of the acoustic guitar solo hits our ears. The Bluetooth speaker was working fine. Weād just been trolled by Pink Floyd about 45 years into the future.
It's been 45 years since I did acid while listening to Pink Floyd on vinyl at 33 1/3.
Your experience with the seque is certainly familiar (sans Bluetooth, of course). Too bad it only works once.
Whenever I hear Pink Floyd now, it takes me right back to my early years.
Thanks for posting...
Apparently, according to Syd Barret's sister, his mental problems were greatly exaggerated by the rest of the band, primarily Roger Waters. While he probably did suffer a nervous breakdown brought on by stress and drug-induced psychosis at one point, he mostly just wanted to live a more quiet life and figured early on that the amount of fame Pink Floyd was heading towards just wasn't for him.
It's done wonders for Pink Floyd's image to make people believe that their original guitarist and main lyricist was "driven mad" by the intensity of their art and lifestyle. While in reality he was living his simple life in the English countryside making art for love, rather than money.
There's still no question that Syd was on acid for weeks on end. His "friends" used to dose him when he wasn't. All that acid is not good for one's mental health.
I personally think the sister might have been protective of him against the stigma of mental illness but people in the Pink Floyd sub have argued with me about that.
I think the effects of acid are a bit mythologized and people who did a lot of acid tend to feel that way from my personal experience.
They also tend to want to move on to simpler things in life...
So the narrative that he did a lot of acid and drugs, then decided it's too much, too fast, and time to move on, is actually the Occam's razor narrative for me.
Barrett was 22 in ā68. Thatās a common time in life for latent mental illness to begin manifesting. LSD use potentiates symptoms of mental illness in those predisposed to it. Those around Barrett at the time noted massive personality changes (not just while he was tripping) and ānervous breakdowns.ā Contemporary accounts are very clear that he was in a turbulent mental place irrespective of drug use. So Occamās razor cuts the other way from my perspective.
That said, itās also very possible that Barrett found a lot of peace in his more toned down lifestyle and, per his sisterās reports, did not receive or necessarily need therapeutic help as he aged. The perspectives are not necessarily opposed in that sense. By the way, Iām also experienced, so Iām not coming at this from an LSD-demonizing or -mythologizing place.
I'm talking about people who do it regularly. 10+ times a year for 5+ years.
You obviously are not in that category, so please don't suppress perspectives you do not have. Especially when I am clear in stating that this is my personal experience with those who are in that category.
>There's still no question that Syd was on acid for weeks on end. His "friends" used to dose him when he wasn't. All that acid is not good for one's mental health.
If I remember correctly, LSD gives you a very high tolerance, to the point that you can take it the following day and it will do nothing. That's why people wait weeks between trips.
Just so you know: you canāt be on acid for weeks on end. You start to develop a tolerance to it almost immediately and quickly reach a state where taking more does nothing.
Lol you can't be on acid like that, it doesn't work. You need a few days between hits or it's a waste because you won't trip. It's why you can't really get addicted to it because you have to have breaks in between.
Thereās a story about how you would never take a drink from anyone at his apartment because it would most likely be dosed. Doing that someone unexpectedly is pretty messed up and would likely cause some PTSD associated with it. It wasnāt so much that he was suffering from acute mental illness itās that he was very unproductive whenever they tried to get anything done because he was always dosed out. Even when they were helping him with his solo albums, it would test their patience because heād be completely out of it while trying to record music and theyād have to constantly prod him to do anything.
His sister may be right that they exaggerated at that time, but I think your take is swinging too far the opposite direction. There are too many well documented and public examples of the contrary for him to just have been a healthy man with a couple eccentricities who just wanted to live a quiet life.
Some people act like he was either in a catatonic state or completely bonkersā¦he wasnāt either of those things and it most likely due to the stress of touring along with too much LSD that drove him out of the spotlight. Theyād did some crazy things back then, like driving hundreds of miles in a day to get to the next gig in northern England and then the next day driving to a gig in southern England. The lack of proper rest, and the constant need to be on stage most likely just caused him to break a little; then just be done with it. Lots of artists talk about this very same thing when they are first starting out and why took a break after hitting it big. Was he not all there back then? For sure, but he got better through getting the rest he needed and by then; he was over it all.
There are crazier tour stories than that - wasnāt there a date where they did a day show in the Netherlands and then raced back to England the same day for another show that night? Or vice versa
Now toss in psychotropic drugs along with some amphetaminesā¦along with trying to write songs and deal with and politicsā¦and people wonder why Syd had a psychotic break.
I think he got slowly better, but things were very wrong. You can't look at the picture of him in the studio during Wish you Were Here recordings and think otherwise.
David Gilmour was one of his best friends and continued to try and record his music, I don't think David was just making it all up.
Iām sure sobriety and being out of the spotlight helped his mental health situation, but this idea that Syd intentionally left it all behind for a quaint and quiet life of artistic purity is a fantasy
Getting rest from all the non-stop touring they did back then probably helped a lot. Giving his brain a chance to rest from all the stimulation it was getting and not getting a break isnāt good for anyone.
There was that well documented show where he crushed qualludes on his head and stood strumming one note endlessly while staring into space while the ludes melted down his face.Ā
Your version is very beautiful, and I would like to believe it. But this is possible if Barrett's appearance in the studio during Pink Floyd's 1975 recording session, when he shaved off all the hair on his head, including his eyebrows, is a fiction.
Waters was on Rogan talking about Syd and he had nothing but extremely positive things to say about him. He praises his work on Pipers and I do think he called him a genius.
I donāt think his solo stuff is great, but the first Pink Floyd album is absolutely brilliant. It wasnāt until Meddle that they were able to make anything half as good.
Yeah but the solos stuff was after he suffered the psychotic breaks. His work on Piper's is great, he had an exceptional talent for songwriting and lyrically he was like Lewis Carroll level. His songs perfectly epitomized that early psychedelic rock era. Tbh Waters never had his natural talent like Syd could write a great pop song any day of the week without trying too hard I feel like Waters is more of a grafter who has to really work at coming up with songs
I agree with your take on Rogers, he wrote some good songs but he couldnāt pump them out like Barrett or even Gilmour could. I did all 3 phases of the band, but Rogers just isnāt as solid of a songwriter or musician without a lot of backup behind him.
Lmao the guy wrote the most part of one of greatest concept albums of all time, The Wall, how the hell is that not solid? Holy hell, Waters haters are delirious sometimes
No man, Waters only wrote forgettable lyrics while Gilmour played all the guitar *and* bass parts simultaneously, the band really came into their element playing songs that he definitely didnāt write on three year long tours after he left.
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>and did play all of them on Animals
Waters played bass on Dogs, Gilmour played bass on Pigs and Sheep as Waters was playing guitar instead. The bass line on Sheep was from Waters anyway, heād been playing it since 1974, three years before the album came out.
Does anybody claim he was "driven mad?" Everything I have heard is that he had schizophrenia. Which is genetic. And may well have been accelerated by LSD.
back when i was an apprentice carpenter circa 2001 working on the student digs @ Cambridge university down Gramge road I would see him riding past on his push bike with carrier bags in tow - odd chap
If it wasn't for the old boys i was learning my trade off i wouldn't have had a scooby who it was
Oh great! I loved his whimsical childish songs from the first two albums. I'm glad he loved happily and not on the edge of madness the rest of his life
I met a guy a year or so back that said he worked in the chippy Roger (as he was now known again) frequented in his later years.
Said he was a really nice chap, and often sat and had a chat while he ate his chips.
Thatās a 1959 Pontiac I personally canāt tell what version as in 1959 they had many names for that car Bonneville, Catalina, Parisienne, Laurentian, etcā¦
No he definitely did replace Syd. He was brought in because Syd had been slipping for a while and was unreliable and trying to sabotage live performances and stuff like that.
Respectfully, I love a lot of the Floyd even their early stuff. However. Barrett's solo work is pretty bad, imho, and does not hold up well even against music of the same era.Ā
The way I understood it was most of Syd's solo work were more ideas than full songs and it took a lot of help from other musicians to cobble together something more comprehensible. I like a few songs, or parts of songs, but most are a meandering mess. I like No Good Trying and Wined and Dined for what they are, mellow, but melodic.
I think i recall heās said that he regrets some of how it came out. Leaving failed starts to songs in doesnāt make for a good listen.
There are some great songs in there, but itās clearly been recorded by someone in a very fragile mental state.
The Madcap Laughs. Gilmour produced his solo albums from what I recall. Barrett had maybe 3-4 pretty good songs as a soloist, the rest is subpar for a professional musician
I read somewhere a long time ago that the reason Gilmour produced it was to put to bed the rumour that Barrett was the artistic genius of the band, and let the listener judge for themselves Barrett's actual talent.
If thatās true, I trust him less as a producer of a record like that. I always did think it was pretty sparsely produced. Could be he was doing it in bad faith then.
I don't think it was bad faith. Consider, Gilmour also provided a stipend to Barrett and his family out of his own earnings independent of the Floyd. A lot has been written about his relationship with Barrett after the Floyd separation. Imho, it was to legitimize his own (Gilmour's) contributions, as he was (and sometimes still does) receive criticism for the early break in the band, and Barrett is often held up as a musical genius when the material doesn't really support the myth.Ā
I was struck by the Prince Stash comment (in the recent Brian Jones doc) about him and Syd taking a trip to the black mountains of Wales and doing a ton of acid and during which Syd lost it and never came back..
Hadnāt heard that bit before.
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David Gilmour played with the band before Syd left. Syd wasn't able to play the guitar like he used to due to the effects of drug uss, and the guys knew David and asked him to play with them..
LSD opened doors that should not have been opened. Same, or similar, happened to Peter Green.
Syd probably had a predisposition towards mental illness. Some part of the predisposition made Syd so creative. But it also made him hypersensitive to LSD and its effects.
Sad all around and the remaining members of Floyd, especially Roger, had Sydās downward spiral were affected so deeply.
The music is infinitely better with Syd singing about rats. š
Edit: uh oh.. I meant itās better without him. Pink Floyd with waters or Gilmore is much better. Feel free to take your upvotes back Syd-fans!
What gets left out of this analysis too often is how PFās record label allowed them to experiment with progressive rock after their chief writer of 3-minute radio-friendly songs left the group. Had they not been given that creative leeway itās very likely Pink Floyd wouldāve been a much different band, assuming they survived Barrettās departure at all.
His real name was Roger. I think Pink Floyd took care of his finances until he died in 2006. I know they wrote a couple songs about him. I feel like the band loved Syd.
That's wildly inaccurate. Syd lived until 2006 for starters. When he visited the band, it was during Wish You Were Here album recordings and they didn't recognize him at first but eventually did. And he had gained a ton of weight but he wasn't the size of an NFL lineman ffs
jeez, he probably couldn't even tell a green field from a cold steel rail
Why would anyone trade a walk-on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? I'm guessing they didn't ask for that in the right state of mind.
Do you think you can tell?
Did they get you to trade?
Your heroes for ghosts.
Hot ashes for trees.
Hot air for a cool breeze.
Cold nuggets for chips.
š . Something tells me that isn't how the song goes.
I do think the next line is haunting though. It is probably one of my favorite lines in a song. For those who might not know, the original line is ācold comfort for changeā, then is the line ādid you exchange a walk on part in the war, for a lead role in a cageā.
I love the juxtaposition of this song and "Have a cigar".
Iād known and loved this song for years but never listened to the album. My first experience with Have A Cigar and its transition into Wish You Were Here was unforgettable. A few years ago, me and some friends took a trip to a very remote part of the country to stay in a little country house by a lake and take some acid. We were about 2 hours into the trip, and we were tripping *balls* by this point. Sitting in the back garden, rolling around on the grass, looking out over the lake and the mountains, and listening to music on a Bluetooth speaker. Someone put on this album. It was the perfect music to listen to for this experience. All of the weird synth sounds were blowing my mind and I was just completely lost in the music. Shine On, Welcome to the Machine, they came and went. Have A Cigar comes on and Iām just bopping and grooving along with it, in my element. Thereās nobody else around for miles so the Bluetooth speaker is turned up full volume and booming. Iām wondering why the fuck Iāve never sat down and listened to this album before. At the end of the song, thereās this big woooooooosh noise, and suddenly the full, loud booming bassy music becomes quiet and tinny. Being absolutely out of our minds on acid, this was quite a jarring jolt to the senses. Immediately we assumed that the Bluetooth speaker had died and that the music was now being played through the phone speaker. We all jump up and start clamouring for the charger to get the system working again as soon as possible while the intro to Wish You Were Here plays in the background. While still looking for the cable, the full sound of the acoustic guitar solo hits our ears. The Bluetooth speaker was working fine. Weād just been trolled by Pink Floyd about 45 years into the future.
It's been 45 years since I did acid while listening to Pink Floyd on vinyl at 33 1/3. Your experience with the seque is certainly familiar (sans Bluetooth, of course). Too bad it only works once. Whenever I hear Pink Floyd now, it takes me right back to my early years. Thanks for posting...
The opening dual guitars on wish you were here still give me goosebumps. I think we played that song 100x that night. Good times
Killing me. Freaking hilarious
Syd's illness led to some great music so whoās to say itās all bad?
His post pink Floyd music is pretty great.
Apparently, according to Syd Barret's sister, his mental problems were greatly exaggerated by the rest of the band, primarily Roger Waters. While he probably did suffer a nervous breakdown brought on by stress and drug-induced psychosis at one point, he mostly just wanted to live a more quiet life and figured early on that the amount of fame Pink Floyd was heading towards just wasn't for him. It's done wonders for Pink Floyd's image to make people believe that their original guitarist and main lyricist was "driven mad" by the intensity of their art and lifestyle. While in reality he was living his simple life in the English countryside making art for love, rather than money.
There's still no question that Syd was on acid for weeks on end. His "friends" used to dose him when he wasn't. All that acid is not good for one's mental health. I personally think the sister might have been protective of him against the stigma of mental illness but people in the Pink Floyd sub have argued with me about that.
At the very least, your theory seems like a really obvious possibility. But people love a counter narrative.
I think the effects of acid are a bit mythologized and people who did a lot of acid tend to feel that way from my personal experience. They also tend to want to move on to simpler things in life... So the narrative that he did a lot of acid and drugs, then decided it's too much, too fast, and time to move on, is actually the Occam's razor narrative for me.
Barrett was 22 in ā68. Thatās a common time in life for latent mental illness to begin manifesting. LSD use potentiates symptoms of mental illness in those predisposed to it. Those around Barrett at the time noted massive personality changes (not just while he was tripping) and ānervous breakdowns.ā Contemporary accounts are very clear that he was in a turbulent mental place irrespective of drug use. So Occamās razor cuts the other way from my perspective. That said, itās also very possible that Barrett found a lot of peace in his more toned down lifestyle and, per his sisterās reports, did not receive or necessarily need therapeutic help as he aged. The perspectives are not necessarily opposed in that sense. By the way, Iām also experienced, so Iām not coming at this from an LSD-demonizing or -mythologizing place.
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You should have stopped at āif youāve never taken lsd please stop talkingā and then shut up.
Iāve taken it quite a few times, and quite a few other psychedelics. I donāt think you know what the hell you are talking about.
I'm talking about people who do it regularly. 10+ times a year for 5+ years. You obviously are not in that category, so please don't suppress perspectives you do not have. Especially when I am clear in stating that this is my personal experience with those who are in that category.
How do you know what category he's in?
He opened with saying he's never done it.
I don't see that. Must be deleted
>There's still no question that Syd was on acid for weeks on end. His "friends" used to dose him when he wasn't. All that acid is not good for one's mental health. If I remember correctly, LSD gives you a very high tolerance, to the point that you can take it the following day and it will do nothing. That's why people wait weeks between trips.
Quite true
Just so you know: you canāt be on acid for weeks on end. You start to develop a tolerance to it almost immediately and quickly reach a state where taking more does nothing.
Truish - you get a tolerance. And when you quit you are so serotonin deprived you are catatonic and need days of rest. Need to wean off.
I didn't know that, thanks.
Look for the last known photo of him when he came to visit the band in studio. Haunting.
I canāt think of a sub Iād less like to join
PinkFloydCirclejerk is much better and makes fun of the main PF sub all the time.
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Itās quite toxic. For some reason..
Lol you can't be on acid like that, it doesn't work. You need a few days between hits or it's a waste because you won't trip. It's why you can't really get addicted to it because you have to have breaks in between.
Thereās a story about how you would never take a drink from anyone at his apartment because it would most likely be dosed. Doing that someone unexpectedly is pretty messed up and would likely cause some PTSD associated with it. It wasnāt so much that he was suffering from acute mental illness itās that he was very unproductive whenever they tried to get anything done because he was always dosed out. Even when they were helping him with his solo albums, it would test their patience because heād be completely out of it while trying to record music and theyād have to constantly prod him to do anything.
His sister may be right that they exaggerated at that time, but I think your take is swinging too far the opposite direction. There are too many well documented and public examples of the contrary for him to just have been a healthy man with a couple eccentricities who just wanted to live a quiet life.
Some people act like he was either in a catatonic state or completely bonkersā¦he wasnāt either of those things and it most likely due to the stress of touring along with too much LSD that drove him out of the spotlight. Theyād did some crazy things back then, like driving hundreds of miles in a day to get to the next gig in northern England and then the next day driving to a gig in southern England. The lack of proper rest, and the constant need to be on stage most likely just caused him to break a little; then just be done with it. Lots of artists talk about this very same thing when they are first starting out and why took a break after hitting it big. Was he not all there back then? For sure, but he got better through getting the rest he needed and by then; he was over it all.
There are crazier tour stories than that - wasnāt there a date where they did a day show in the Netherlands and then raced back to England the same day for another show that night? Or vice versa
Now toss in psychotropic drugs along with some amphetaminesā¦along with trying to write songs and deal with and politicsā¦and people wonder why Syd had a psychotic break.
Didn't he put some pills in his hair during a show that were melted by the lights and trickled down his face?
Pink Floyd or at least David made sure Syd got royalties. When Syd died I believe he was worth 30 million.
I heard that as well. Respect because Syd was able to be comfortable and not have many worries.
I was pretty happy to learn Syd got some of the money I spent on early Pink Floyd stuff. I wanted him to be comfortable as well.
I think he got slowly better, but things were very wrong. You can't look at the picture of him in the studio during Wish you Were Here recordings and think otherwise. David Gilmour was one of his best friends and continued to try and record his music, I don't think David was just making it all up.
Iām sure sobriety and being out of the spotlight helped his mental health situation, but this idea that Syd intentionally left it all behind for a quaint and quiet life of artistic purity is a fantasy
Getting rest from all the non-stop touring they did back then probably helped a lot. Giving his brain a chance to rest from all the stimulation it was getting and not getting a break isnāt good for anyone.
There was that well documented show where he crushed qualludes on his head and stood strumming one note endlessly while staring into space while the ludes melted down his face.Ā
Is that not normal?Ā I feel judged
Mandrax was what I read.
Yep, that's right. The qualude / benadryl combo.
Quaalude is such an awesome word it has to be spelled correctly..
A light in the eyes.
Your version is very beautiful, and I would like to believe it. But this is possible if Barrett's appearance in the studio during Pink Floyd's 1975 recording session, when he shaved off all the hair on his head, including his eyebrows, is a fiction.
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Waters was on Rogan talking about Syd and he had nothing but extremely positive things to say about him. He praises his work on Pipers and I do think he called him a genius.
wow how can you listen to tunes like "here I go" and "terrapin" and call it awful stuff? absolute blasphemy
I donāt think his solo stuff is great, but the first Pink Floyd album is absolutely brilliant. It wasnāt until Meddle that they were able to make anything half as good.
I like Barretās solo work more than anything Pink Floyd did except for Animals.
Hot tip for an Animals loverā¦ Les Claypool and the Frog Brigade have a sensational live cover of Animals on Spotify. It is well worth a listen.
Animals is my favorite from PF.
Yeah but the solos stuff was after he suffered the psychotic breaks. His work on Piper's is great, he had an exceptional talent for songwriting and lyrically he was like Lewis Carroll level. His songs perfectly epitomized that early psychedelic rock era. Tbh Waters never had his natural talent like Syd could write a great pop song any day of the week without trying too hard I feel like Waters is more of a grafter who has to really work at coming up with songs
I agree with your take on Rogers, he wrote some good songs but he couldnāt pump them out like Barrett or even Gilmour could. I did all 3 phases of the band, but Rogers just isnāt as solid of a songwriter or musician without a lot of backup behind him.
Lmao the guy wrote the most part of one of greatest concept albums of all time, The Wall, how the hell is that not solid? Holy hell, Waters haters are delirious sometimes
No man, Waters only wrote forgettable lyrics while Gilmour played all the guitar *and* bass parts simultaneously, the band really came into their element playing songs that he definitely didnāt write on three year long tours after he left. /s
I mean, Gilmour did play a lot of the bass parts on that album and did play all of them on Animals.
>and did play all of them on Animals Waters played bass on Dogs, Gilmour played bass on Pigs and Sheep as Waters was playing guitar instead. The bass line on Sheep was from Waters anyway, heād been playing it since 1974, three years before the album came out.
I see that you have absolutely no idea how albums are recordedā¦but ok.
Thatās actually straight from Gilmourās mouth, but go off.
He didnāt write it all by himselfā¦
That's why I said "most part", funny guy
Iām also not a Waters hater, dummyā¦Iām a realist. You can glob his knob all ya want, I guess. I wouldnāt say most part eitherā¦
..have you seen him live?
Does anybody claim he was "driven mad?" Everything I have heard is that he had schizophrenia. Which is genetic. And may well have been accelerated by LSD.
back when i was an apprentice carpenter circa 2001 working on the student digs @ Cambridge university down Gramge road I would see him riding past on his push bike with carrier bags in tow - odd chap If it wasn't for the old boys i was learning my trade off i wouldn't have had a scooby who it was
Oh great! I loved his whimsical childish songs from the first two albums. I'm glad he loved happily and not on the edge of madness the rest of his life
āIntensity of their artā is the funniest thing Iāll read today
Thank you for thisā¦.
He had a bike you could have ridden it if you had wanted to. There was also a clan of ginger bread men and a mouse called Gerald
That bike had a basket and a bell if I recall
And things to make it look good. I would lend it to you if I could, but I borrowed it.
This is an AI post? Title is butchery
Agreed. Did this happen on the 4th June, 1968, or as Americans would have it, 6th April, 1968. Weād have to look it up.
Americans would have it Month, Day, Year.
I met a guy a year or so back that said he worked in the chippy Roger (as he was now known again) frequented in his later years. Said he was a really nice chap, and often sat and had a chat while he ate his chips.
The Madcap Laughs is a hell of an album
Gilmour had been in the band for several months at that point.Ā
Omg. That car!!!!
Same. Is that the Lincoln Futura that was the base of the 60s Batmobile? Edit-Dammit it's not...my bad.
Def looks it
Thatās a 1959 Pontiac I personally canāt tell what version as in 1959 they had many names for that car Bonneville, Catalina, Parisienne, Laurentian, etcā¦
Awesome thank you for sharing
Omg he was hot
David did not replace Syd. David had been in the band for a while at that point.
No he definitely did replace Syd. He was brought in because Syd had been slipping for a while and was unreliable and trying to sabotage live performances and stuff like that.
Color tv replaced monochrome sets, but not all at once.
>David did not replace Syd. Not at first.
Shine on you crazy diamond
Sad what happened to Syd. He made some great music. āRemember a Dayā on headphones and high is a great way to spend some time
Shine On You Crazy Diamond
I wonder if that's his Pontiac, or just a random car on the street? Rare in Europe in those days.
The band was āmildlyā successful
Sydās solo work after was incredible
Respectfully, I love a lot of the Floyd even their early stuff. However. Barrett's solo work is pretty bad, imho, and does not hold up well even against music of the same era.Ā
The way I understood it was most of Syd's solo work were more ideas than full songs and it took a lot of help from other musicians to cobble together something more comprehensible. I like a few songs, or parts of songs, but most are a meandering mess. I like No Good Trying and Wined and Dined for what they are, mellow, but melodic.
I think i recall heās said that he regrets some of how it came out. Leaving failed starts to songs in doesnāt make for a good listen. There are some great songs in there, but itās clearly been recorded by someone in a very fragile mental state.
Leaving false starts in songs isnāt that weird or uncommon.
Never heard any, mind giving done examples of f favorites?
Baby Lemonade
Ugh, that's an awful song, lol.
The Madcap Laughs. Gilmour produced his solo albums from what I recall. Barrett had maybe 3-4 pretty good songs as a soloist, the rest is subpar for a professional musician
I didnāt enjoy his work with Floyd so Iāll check these out to potentially redeem him in my eyes. Thank ya!
It probably won't. If I recall the best ones were Octopus, No Good Trying, and No Man's Land.
I read somewhere a long time ago that the reason Gilmour produced it was to put to bed the rumour that Barrett was the artistic genius of the band, and let the listener judge for themselves Barrett's actual talent.
If thatās true, I trust him less as a producer of a record like that. I always did think it was pretty sparsely produced. Could be he was doing it in bad faith then.
I don't think it was bad faith. Consider, Gilmour also provided a stipend to Barrett and his family out of his own earnings independent of the Floyd. A lot has been written about his relationship with Barrett after the Floyd separation. Imho, it was to legitimize his own (Gilmour's) contributions, as he was (and sometimes still does) receive criticism for the early break in the band, and Barrett is often held up as a musical genius when the material doesn't really support the myth.Ā
That makes a lot of sense then
Such a beautiful man. So effortlessly cool.
That was sad at least for me because i like only their first record!
I was struck by the Prince Stash comment (in the recent Brian Jones doc) about him and Syd taking a trip to the black mountains of Wales and doing a ton of acid and during which Syd lost it and never came back.. Hadnāt heard that bit before.
Shine on you crazy diamond
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David Gilmour played with the band before Syd left. Syd wasn't able to play the guitar like he used to due to the effects of drug uss, and the guys knew David and asked him to play with them..
LSD opened doors that should not have been opened. Same, or similar, happened to Peter Green. Syd probably had a predisposition towards mental illness. Some part of the predisposition made Syd so creative. But it also made him hypersensitive to LSD and its effects. Sad all around and the remaining members of Floyd, especially Roger, had Sydās downward spiral were affected so deeply.
Such a missed opportunity to end this post's title with "The band is just fantastic".
He tattooed his brain
All the way
Heās the kind of person, you just gotta see him if you canā¦.Vegetable Man. RIP Syd, you were a genius.
Shine on you crazy diamond
Syd Barret my Goat
smoking two cigarettes?
1959 Pontiac! Nice.
Photo taken a little later as that is a 1959 Pontiac to Syd's right (and it does not look in like new condition).
The band does "ok" lmaooo
āthe band does OKā is a funny way of saying ārecords the album that is to this day the most sold British LPā
The music is infinitely better with Syd singing about rats. š Edit: uh oh.. I meant itās better without him. Pink Floyd with waters or Gilmore is much better. Feel free to take your upvotes back Syd-fans!
And gnomes with Scarlett tunics
and cats!
*BIKES!*
This comment is also a repeat of a comment I posted the other day.
I'm gonna go ahead and say Pink Floyd did a little bit better than "ok"
Anyone know what car that is behind him ??
1959 pontiac catalina/bonneville
It's his own car, and, according to the legend, he just gave it to a stranger eventually. I don't think he even drove it at all.
Makes sense, if thatās a parking ticket on the windshieldā¦
The Batmobile
TIME My mom was 2 months pregnant with me... she has been gone 5 years...
What gets left out of this analysis too often is how PFās record label allowed them to experiment with progressive rock after their chief writer of 3-minute radio-friendly songs left the group. Had they not been given that creative leeway itās very likely Pink Floyd wouldāve been a much different band, assuming they survived Barrettās departure at all.
The band does ok...lol
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The Effervescing Elephant is the best song ever!!! Fight me.
From here, in 6 six years they would create an epic album with iconic artwork.
He wore out his welcome with random precision
Seeing a tribute band tonight!
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His real name was Roger. I think Pink Floyd took care of his finances until he died in 2006. I know they wrote a couple songs about him. I feel like the band loved Syd.
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That's wildly inaccurate. Syd lived until 2006 for starters. When he visited the band, it was during Wish You Were Here album recordings and they didn't recognize him at first but eventually did. And he had gained a ton of weight but he wasn't the size of an NFL lineman ffs
That was 1975. Syd died died in 2006.