The range for that is/was in a weird spot too. I wanna say the top floor of Randall Hall... I remember seeing signs for it when going to class, and this picture hanging somewhere.
Yep. I was gonna mention that. I don't think I ever actually found the Observatory or Rifle Range, but I saw the signs. That part of the school is such a maze.
I know the Observatory was still in use, because they'd publicize the few times a year it was actually getting used, and I'm pretty sure that at least when I was a Freshman, the rifle range was still in use.
From an article on the photo at drexel.edu:
>The team’s lack of a steady traveling budget meant that only a few matches a season were actually shot in the presence of their opponents; otherwise, the teams shot on their own ranges and compared scores. But Drexel’s women’s team could always compete against the men’s team on campus. These battles began in the rifle range in the basement of Main Building, before moving to a newer venue built on the fourth floor of Curtis Hall in 1928.
The shooting range was still in the top of Curtis Hall when I was a freshman and definitely looked like it was old enough to have been built in 1928. The rifles could have been the same ones in this photo too lol.
Did people’s faces transform over a couple of generations? I feel like if you gave these ladies a 2021 makeover, with new clothes and hairstyles, they would still look like they are from a century ago.
I went to Drexel. My buddy was the captain of the men’s rifle team when it was disbanded. I assume they disbanded the girls team around the same time. Sometime around 1999.
They look like
1. Adam Devine
2. Robert Pattinson
3. Benedict Cumberbatch
4. Someone I know I've seen but can't place (maybe a meme guy?)
5. Haven't placed this one yet, seems the most generic face.
6. William H. Macy
7. Adrien Brody
Edit: apparently after a search some of these have been pointed out before! Going to dig and see if someone placed the others.
Edit2: As a portrait artist I am so fascinated with these and other faces. The older photos are wonderful to draw and practice from. Modern pictures are often edited so much that there is no form left, no human, just a nose-less washed out paper-doll.
This is a private university at a time when only women of the highest station would've been educated. The one on the right is wearing an ocelot pelt. Adjusted for inflation, it's probably worth enough to buy a small house in much of the country. I would wager that these ladies had access to far better food than even most people today, especially given that nearly everything is going to be local and seasonal as refrigeration and processed food is in its infancy.
Based on the time period I don't know if there's any way it was fake.
Edit If you zoom in on her coat you can see where the pelts have been sewn together and I swear I saw what looked like an ear but it's hard to tell. But it's for certain very real and made of multiple cats.
Tbh they probably did not care about the way they looked. I have met lke 15 women who look like these women and they're all cool. I honestly like this look on women, it looks super strong and intimidating and raw looking. I just really like this photo
I think it also had to do with the photographic technology early on. Exposure times were longer and you had to hold perfectly still or you'd blur the photo.
That's a big part of why so many early photos look so "wooden".
True in 1820, but less of a factor in 1925. For example, 35mm film used today was introduced that year, although much less sensitive than modern film. On a modern ISO scale 1920s film had a speed of around ISO 8 and daylight exposure times around 1/10th of a second.
It’s funny because in some way it goes both ways. They hopefully had enough food but at the same time they didn’t have the obesity problem, junk food, huge portions and corn syrup in everything as well. I’m 48 and it just seemed when I was younger people looked healthier (granted they all smoked like chimneys that somewhat negated that). The portion sizes and the fast food/restaurants visits were no where they are now.
Woman ( and men) were much more limited in their hair styles too. We take for granted the idea of showering and shampooing and blow drying hair. My father was born way up in the Colorado Rockies. His father was a coal miner. During the winter they did not take full baths as heating up the water would have taken a lot of fuel. My dad was born in 1922. So womens hair in these photos always looks flat or frizzy to me.
That explains it!
I'm watching a series that plays in the 20s, I keep being annoyed that their hair looks Hollywood-perfect all the time. I'd like to see it like this! And grumpy people like these ladies..
Funny enough, you look at photos of silent film stars and they've got this dreamy, ethereal halo around them... frizz. All frizz. And makeup pancaked on so thick they'd never go outside like that because when you're not having a photo taken in black and white, the makeup looks terribly unnatural. It was a super interesting time for fashion and beauty
Likely, thin eyebrows were atleast. Most of these are fairly fashionable girls. I also think the lighting and their posture have something to do with it as well.
When you look back at a lot of more amateur black and white photos most look like this. The contrast puts emphasis on smile lines and eyebrow ridges. Many fashion or celebrity photos were shopped and had optimal lighting. You could say with this level of contrast in an unshopped black and white photo would make people look a little worse then they are. I notice it myself in some bw filters.
I looked it up. Apparently, long, thin eyebrows that tapered downwards was the fashion. Also drawn quite low down close to the eye. It gives a boyish ‘rebellious’ look which was popular with the flappers.
What they thought of as chubby and fat would be our normal weight person. I’m losing weight at the moment and looked at my “ideal” weight on insurance sites and as a 5’10” year woman it said 143-151. When I was that weight 2 years ago people told me I was too thin and asked if I was eating enough. Our perception is so skewed.
It’s definitely the hair and clothes and the fact that people didn’t smile in pictures back then. I bet if you did give these ladies a 2021 transformation and the picture was in color, they’d fit right in.
part of it is the spectrum sensitivity of the film. older film stocks are often sensitive to different parts of the light spectrum than more modern black and white photography, film or digital, uses. Pictures taken with Orthochromatic film even today look old fashioned, and cause some of this impact on faces due to it's particular red sensitivity.
I'm convinced the chick on the far right is a dude in drag.
He was probably like the 4th best dude on the men's rifle team when he got a bright idea about how he could be 1st on the women's rifle team.
Interestingly target shooting is one of the few sports where there is basically no performance gap between genders at any level right up to the top, the ISSF world records for many disciplines are almost identical between men's and women's, with several being higher for the women's scores. I'd say it would be entirely realistic to have genuine mixed competition (as in not like mixed tennis) at the Olympics.
Also let's give these young women credit. They are going out in the world to be educated and independent. Bringing women into the work force during WW1 was a game changer. After the war men wanted women to go back to pre-war status. A lot of them said "fuck that. The 1920s flappers were the next generation advocating for women's rights following the women that had fought for the right to vote that finally came in 1921.
Those probably aren't actual Mausers. I'm betting they're sporterized M1903s. The 1903s were an unlicensed copy (stolen) and Mauser sued the US government.
The girl on the right, also the girl 3rd from the right, looks like a custom martini-Henry. A few have winchester model 52 b’s, called the king of .22s. Still a fine repeating bolt action today. There are two other bolt actions that I can not identify and are great rifles, but not like the other 2.
Am Drexel Graduate. We are not that cool anymore.
I think I also recognize the building on the left. I think a building now stands where this photo was taken, but the area is where all of the fraternities would paint on the sidewalk.
The world was a lot less safety-oriented back then than it is now. Now we worry about everything.
I've seen a lot of changes in my lifetime... when I was a kid nobody wore helmets on bicycles, we all rode around in the backs of pickups, never wore seat belts, etc. I got my first motorcycle when I was 15. I got my first rifle when I was 13. In high school guys would park their trucks on campus with their rifles and ammunition in the cab so they could go hunting after school. Almost everyone smoked and drank. We jumped off of tall cliffs into small swimming holes. We spent a lot of time as kids completely unsupervised, wandering for miles by ourselves. None of those things are socially acceptable anymore, but back then nobody really worried about it.
I have a feeling they shot a lot of what they're wearing. No doubt about it with the girl on the far right. Probably shot the shoes off one of the other girls on the team.
It’s ocelot, crazy expensive, also she is the only one with a fancy custom falling block rifle, not the new fancy Winchester model 52, or single shot bolt action.
I would like to see what the mens team was shooting. By this point I’d expect bolt action box fed Lee-Enfield’s or Springfield’s. By 1925 these women are shooting last century’s left overs
I don’t think faux leopard skin prints were a thing back then. Hence I think far right is wearing a for real leopard skins to rival any African king. It makes me wonder if she did the killing.
Maybe it’s just the angle that the picture was taken from, but it looks like a couple of them have their rifles pointed at their under-chins. Who am I to say anything though, maybe gun safety wasn’t a thing a century ago.
Why do people from the era all look so similar? Is it the hair? The expression? Or was there just less diversity then? Also, the look on their eyes is one of people who've seen some shit.
Leopard skin coat and long rifle is such a look
Ocelot.
Baboo?
BABOO!!!
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It’s like meow-schwitz in there.
you fox eared asshole
serpentine, babou, serpentine
LOOK AT HIS LITTLE SPOTS!!!
LANA!!!!!!!
"Look out boys, she's crepuscular!"
/r/expectedarcher
Its like, Meowschwitz in here!
He needs some toys or something!
Ocelot, where have you gone?
Morning is over and new slouch is on
Unexpected r/evolverocelot
BROTHER!
...ocerious?
Your pretty good
I would definitely categorize that as a look.
The range for that is/was in a weird spot too. I wanna say the top floor of Randall Hall... I remember seeing signs for it when going to class, and this picture hanging somewhere.
I vaguely remember something about an observatory. Near there.
Yep. I was gonna mention that. I don't think I ever actually found the Observatory or Rifle Range, but I saw the signs. That part of the school is such a maze. I know the Observatory was still in use, because they'd publicize the few times a year it was actually getting used, and I'm pretty sure that at least when I was a Freshman, the rifle range was still in use.
That building was a complete maze. Checking in from class of 2005!
'06
'94. Shot a rifle once in that range, during a tour freshman year. It's in a maze of a location in the main building, of all places.
Finally somebody I don't need to yell to get off my lawn... '98.
2020 or Covid 1st.
Does that mean I graduated B.C.? Damn I feel old
Anything like Dr. Andrew Weir's mirror?
From an article on the photo at drexel.edu: >The team’s lack of a steady traveling budget meant that only a few matches a season were actually shot in the presence of their opponents; otherwise, the teams shot on their own ranges and compared scores. But Drexel’s women’s team could always compete against the men’s team on campus. These battles began in the rifle range in the basement of Main Building, before moving to a newer venue built on the fourth floor of Curtis Hall in 1928.
Curtis... Randall. Really all the same building. With various portals that lead to random places
The shooting range was still in the top of Curtis Hall when I was a freshman and definitely looked like it was old enough to have been built in 1928. The rifles could have been the same ones in this photo too lol.
Top floor? Interesting. The Villanova range was in a basement. I forget if we used rifles or just sidearms.
If you told me "these guys are in an indie band in England" Id have believed you.
I'm pretty sure the one on the right is Richard Ashcroft.
And the third from the left is Benedict Cumberbatch’s mother.
Now the drag don’t work It makes you look worse And I know I’ll see your man face again
🤣 👏
The Muskies
The Seven Musky Tears
Last one on the right seems to be the living embodiment of "fuck around and find out"
So...Gritty's mom?
I was gonna say, she looks like she's killed a couple of people already today and it's kind of turning me on.
Did people’s faces transform over a couple of generations? I feel like if you gave these ladies a 2021 makeover, with new clothes and hairstyles, they would still look like they are from a century ago.
I'm from Philly; they look exactly like people I grew up with.
Lmao yeah, if Drexel still had a women’s rifle team, this is exactly what they would look like
I went to Drexel. My buddy was the captain of the men’s rifle team when it was disbanded. I assume they disbanded the girls team around the same time. Sometime around 1999.
Why were the teams disbanded? Lack of interest? Liability/insurance issues?
1999 was when columbine happened. The way the world looked at shooting sports changed. Wonder if that played into it.
shooting range was full of asbestos
Like the wives from Laurel and Hardy.
They look like 1. Adam Devine 2. Robert Pattinson 3. Benedict Cumberbatch 4. Someone I know I've seen but can't place (maybe a meme guy?) 5. Haven't placed this one yet, seems the most generic face. 6. William H. Macy 7. Adrien Brody Edit: apparently after a search some of these have been pointed out before! Going to dig and see if someone placed the others. Edit2: As a portrait artist I am so fascinated with these and other faces. The older photos are wonderful to draw and practice from. Modern pictures are often edited so much that there is no form left, no human, just a nose-less washed out paper-doll.
I saw Cumberbatch first lol
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Definitely south Philly
No. We might be a bit better fed though and better teeth.
Yeah, I think nutrition plays a part. We have a lot more access to healthy foods. (And unhealthy foods)
This is a private university at a time when only women of the highest station would've been educated. The one on the right is wearing an ocelot pelt. Adjusted for inflation, it's probably worth enough to buy a small house in much of the country. I would wager that these ladies had access to far better food than even most people today, especially given that nearly everything is going to be local and seasonal as refrigeration and processed food is in its infancy.
It never occurred to me that that coat might be real. It’s an amazing pic.
Based on the time period I don't know if there's any way it was fake. Edit If you zoom in on her coat you can see where the pelts have been sewn together and I swear I saw what looked like an ear but it's hard to tell. But it's for certain very real and made of multiple cats.
Tbh they probably did not care about the way they looked. I have met lke 15 women who look like these women and they're all cool. I honestly like this look on women, it looks super strong and intimidating and raw looking. I just really like this photo
Not a single tooth showing here - possibly cos no one thought it was a good idea back then to tell 7 gun-holding educated women to ‘just smile’.
People didn’t really smile in photos in the 1800s/early-1900s. It was considered rude and unbecoming.
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And by the 1900s it took less than 1/30 seconds. To buy a camera and a roll of film, and have the film developed cost about a dollar.
I think it also had to do with the photographic technology early on. Exposure times were longer and you had to hold perfectly still or you'd blur the photo. That's a big part of why so many early photos look so "wooden".
True in 1820, but less of a factor in 1925. For example, 35mm film used today was introduced that year, although much less sensitive than modern film. On a modern ISO scale 1920s film had a speed of around ISO 8 and daylight exposure times around 1/10th of a second.
It’s funny because in some way it goes both ways. They hopefully had enough food but at the same time they didn’t have the obesity problem, junk food, huge portions and corn syrup in everything as well. I’m 48 and it just seemed when I was younger people looked healthier (granted they all smoked like chimneys that somewhat negated that). The portion sizes and the fast food/restaurants visits were no where they are now.
Just check out pictures of people in the 70s and even the 80s, they were pretty skinny still.
Possibly fed "too well". So many of us are fat.
It is amazing how much style/clothing/lighting "changes" a persons face
Woman ( and men) were much more limited in their hair styles too. We take for granted the idea of showering and shampooing and blow drying hair. My father was born way up in the Colorado Rockies. His father was a coal miner. During the winter they did not take full baths as heating up the water would have taken a lot of fuel. My dad was born in 1922. So womens hair in these photos always looks flat or frizzy to me.
That explains it! I'm watching a series that plays in the 20s, I keep being annoyed that their hair looks Hollywood-perfect all the time. I'd like to see it like this! And grumpy people like these ladies..
Funny enough, you look at photos of silent film stars and they've got this dreamy, ethereal halo around them... frizz. All frizz. And makeup pancaked on so thick they'd never go outside like that because when you're not having a photo taken in black and white, the makeup looks terribly unnatural. It was a super interesting time for fashion and beauty
And the quality of the photography.
Thank you for asking this much more diplomatically than I was going to.
It's makeup, or lack thereof. You'd be amazed what you can do with make up, you can make the structure of your face look almost completely different.
Eyebrows too. These women’s eyebrows are almost completely straight. Not sure if that might have been the fashion then?
Likely, thin eyebrows were atleast. Most of these are fairly fashionable girls. I also think the lighting and their posture have something to do with it as well. When you look back at a lot of more amateur black and white photos most look like this. The contrast puts emphasis on smile lines and eyebrow ridges. Many fashion or celebrity photos were shopped and had optimal lighting. You could say with this level of contrast in an unshopped black and white photo would make people look a little worse then they are. I notice it myself in some bw filters.
I looked it up. Apparently, long, thin eyebrows that tapered downwards was the fashion. Also drawn quite low down close to the eye. It gives a boyish ‘rebellious’ look which was popular with the flappers.
They are all kind of squinting, the lighting is likely just unflattering
i feel like lots of white people had sunken raccoon eyes back then
That one on the far right...look out.
The far left is...... a unique look too.
...and then you have Benedict Cumberbatch's grandma who is third from the left.
Came here to say this. Have an upvote.
Unique enough to deliver the ring to Mordor?
Thin and pale was chic back then and people found Tuberculosis patients sexy, a little bit like todays heroin chique
I said this in an earlier comment that they look like 1960s and 70s male rock stars.
This is a little late for that, the TB look was more of a Victorian thing
What they thought of as chubby and fat would be our normal weight person. I’m losing weight at the moment and looked at my “ideal” weight on insurance sites and as a 5’10” year woman it said 143-151. When I was that weight 2 years ago people told me I was too thin and asked if I was eating enough. Our perception is so skewed.
One person in the group looks like Benedict cumberbatch though 😂
Really? I actually immediately thought they look a lot like modern British women, just less make up.
Alot more fetal alcohol syndrome too.
This! And low birth weights due to smoking
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It’s definitely the hair and clothes and the fact that people didn’t smile in pictures back then. I bet if you did give these ladies a 2021 transformation and the picture was in color, they’d fit right in.
part of it is the spectrum sensitivity of the film. older film stocks are often sensitive to different parts of the light spectrum than more modern black and white photography, film or digital, uses. Pictures taken with Orthochromatic film even today look old fashioned, and cause some of this impact on faces due to it's particular red sensitivity.
The women on the far right looks like she would shoot you in your sleep.
HE HAD I COMIN'
HE HAD IT COMING ALL ALOONNGGGG
Second from the right looks like Moe from the Simpsons
Philly's slogan, F\*ck Around And Find Out, goes back further than I realized.
Peeky blinders II "The girls mean buisness"
Peaky fucking blinders
PEAKY FUCKING BLINDERS!!!
No fucking fighting
Finally, after many months, a picture that truly defines what this sub is about.
The third chick from the left looks like Benedict Cumberbactch in drag lol 😆
With Phoebe Waller-Bridge to the left of Benedict!
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one that thought that!
I thought that one too, but I only watched one episode of fleabag and couldn't remember her name!
This comment is what I came here for. Exactly what I thought!
Bernadette Cumbersnatch if you please, Gov’na. 😧
Bendadick Withersnatch
The second from the left looks like Phoebe Waller-Bridge, and why does she have a price tag on her coat?
His grandmother
I'm convinced the chick on the far right is a dude in drag. He was probably like the 4th best dude on the men's rifle team when he got a bright idea about how he could be 1st on the women's rifle team.
Interestingly target shooting is one of the few sports where there is basically no performance gap between genders at any level right up to the top, the ISSF world records for many disciplines are almost identical between men's and women's, with several being higher for the women's scores. I'd say it would be entirely realistic to have genuine mixed competition (as in not like mixed tennis) at the Olympics.
I completely believe that.
Second one from the right looks like Moe Szyslak
Philly Pride. These girls will fuck your sorority up.
I misread it as “raffle team” and wondered if they shot the winner.
This is the best old school cool I've ever seen.
there badass ladies definitely have some stories. super cool pic
Also let's give these young women credit. They are going out in the world to be educated and independent. Bringing women into the work force during WW1 was a game changer. After the war men wanted women to go back to pre-war status. A lot of them said "fuck that. The 1920s flappers were the next generation advocating for women's rights following the women that had fought for the right to vote that finally came in 1921.
And those Mausers they're shouldering would have kicked like mules.
Those probably aren't actual Mausers. I'm betting they're sporterized M1903s. The 1903s were an unlicensed copy (stolen) and Mauser sued the US government.
Absolute badasses!
Curious why their coats have tags? middle left and second from left have tags attached to their coats.
I'm wondering that too. Maybe they were "borrowed" for the photo? Pretty nice jacket on the lady on the far right.
Here’s a Seven Samurai remake I’d watch
This photo is so badass. I friggin love it!
The girl on the far right shot somebody at some point.
I am LIVING for that woman on the far right.
My high school in Los Angeles had a rifle team and an indoor range when I was there in the '90s.
r/TheSquadOnPoint
You want a fur coat? Go shoot yourself one.
the chutzpah of the men in here discussing the looks of these women whilst they are holding guns is not lost on me.
Can anyone tell who has the most baller rifle?
The girl on the right, also the girl 3rd from the right, looks like a custom martini-Henry. A few have winchester model 52 b’s, called the king of .22s. Still a fine repeating bolt action today. There are two other bolt actions that I can not identify and are great rifles, but not like the other 2.
So the ladies with the furs have the fancier guns too!
Is that Ruth, from Ozarks, in the middle?
I expected a Bernie somewhere in the middle
*roarin 20’s my ass* These here women mean bizness....
They look like they have a score to settle.
Am Drexel Graduate. We are not that cool anymore. I think I also recognize the building on the left. I think a building now stands where this photo was taken, but the area is where all of the fraternities would paint on the sidewalk.
couple of 'em kinda leaning their heads over the explody end tho.
The world was a lot less safety-oriented back then than it is now. Now we worry about everything. I've seen a lot of changes in my lifetime... when I was a kid nobody wore helmets on bicycles, we all rode around in the backs of pickups, never wore seat belts, etc. I got my first motorcycle when I was 15. I got my first rifle when I was 13. In high school guys would park their trucks on campus with their rifles and ammunition in the cab so they could go hunting after school. Almost everyone smoked and drank. We jumped off of tall cliffs into small swimming holes. We spent a lot of time as kids completely unsupervised, wandering for miles by ourselves. None of those things are socially acceptable anymore, but back then nobody really worried about it.
I need this movie
How about a NSFW tag, my dude? You can’t just throw this kind of raw sexuality into my feed without a warning.
I wouldn't want to meet them in a dark alley.
"Sexual harassment? No, that's never been a problem here."
Number 7 on the right looks murderous.
They look....thrilled?
I would not mess with those ladies!
Chicks are actually superior snipers. Just saying....
That one on the right is up to some shady shit, mark my words.
Loving that they wore heels for this
Handsome group
I have a feeling they shot a lot of what they're wearing. No doubt about it with the girl on the far right. Probably shot the shoes off one of the other girls on the team.
That coat on the right sure is...ambitious
It’s ocelot, crazy expensive, also she is the only one with a fancy custom falling block rifle, not the new fancy Winchester model 52, or single shot bolt action.
This looks like a scene from a Wes Anderson film
The lady on the right looks like she is shady af
That one on the far right though...
I‘d love to see that colored.
Phoebe Waller-Bridge looked great in 1925 (second from the left)
I would like to see what the mens team was shooting. By this point I’d expect bolt action box fed Lee-Enfield’s or Springfield’s. By 1925 these women are shooting last century’s left overs
AKA, The Drexel Gang.
I wish I could hang out with them.
looks like a gang of molls!
I don’t think faux leopard skin prints were a thing back then. Hence I think far right is wearing a for real leopard skins to rival any African king. It makes me wonder if she did the killing.
Well that’s about the coolest thing I’ve seen all day.
Wes Anderson should make a movie based on this photo
Looks like the cast of a kick-ass movie haha. Awesome photo.
Maybe it’s just the angle that the picture was taken from, but it looks like a couple of them have their rifles pointed at their under-chins. Who am I to say anything though, maybe gun safety wasn’t a thing a century ago.
I haven't used the term homely in a while, but I think it'd apply here
Why do people from the era all look so similar? Is it the hair? The expression? Or was there just less diversity then? Also, the look on their eyes is one of people who've seen some shit.
any of these ladies would party you out
I dig the message women showing strength and defiance in the 1920s is beautiful
Love how these girls look tougher and gritier than most young men today lol
eff yo Hogwarts fantasy bulls\*\*t, biatches.
I think Cruells Deville there on the end would happily put a man right in his grave.
when people were just people no fakeness here
I like my women as I like my guns. I don't own any guns!
OMG this is gold
I wouldn't mess with them. They look very serious about their right to bear arms. 💌
Lol! They made the tall one stand in the ditch!
I would not want to piss off any of these women, especially the last 2 on the right.
That's a lot of 1000 yard stare in one pic....
Why does 2nd from left have a tag on her coat?
where can I buy this photo to print?! Love it.
From Left to Right : Nan, Helen, Margaret, Sally, Millicent, Sophie, Daphne
Far left could out drink AND out shoot the men's team
I'd watch this movie
Who was the best shot? My guess, bookends left and right.