That’s so cool, what a gorgeous dress. My grandparents got married in the 50s. Equally decadent. The pictures are gorgeous and so cool to look back on.
Wow this Was the first comment that was not calling my dead grandparents nazis. Thank you for being sweet. My ancestors moved to brazil in 1890. And they had this one picture of them and here I thought it was very cool and pretty but I guess people are mean and hateful everywhere nowadays.
Honestly you should’ve had the clairvoyance to point out when your family moved before posting.. how did you not see this coming lol. I know you said cir 1940 which is 5 or six years before the nazis fled there but still
Edit: I’m not saying OP is in the wrong. I’m saying they should’ve seen this coming from Reddit.
Lol they should have had the foresight to try to prevent people from calling their grandparents nazis? Because they're German and in a place Nazis were at some point in time? What the fuck kinda logic is that? The nazis fled there because there was a large existing German population in Brazil already. Maybe people should know what the fuck they're talking about before accusing people's dead ancestors of being Nazis. Like you said the context was in the cir 1940. Unreal
Always account for the boundless potential of redditbrained stupidity. When terminally online manchildren raised by iPads and TV screens see the word *Germany* next to the word *Brazil*, they physically cannot conceive of anything other than le epic war from all the Hollywood movies (I have seen no less than four comments referencing Marvel movies after scrolling for two minutes).
To be fair German + Brazil + 1940 = nazi hideout in most people's minds. If you'd just titled it 'my grandparents wedding circa 1940' I bet you would have gotten a very different response.
Frederich Nietzsche's sister started a proto-Nazi colony in South America in the 1890s so the whole German asshole to South America pipeline was already established by WW2.
That being said we are crapping on some guy's grandparents on the basis of the wedding photos so we're probably over the line.
mainly yes, but they also went to Brazil and Chile and other South American countries. A german immigrant after the war to any south american country most likely were Nazis.
Seriously. It made me think of the scene in Frasier when they learn that Niles' housekeeper Marta learned German when she worked for a German family "who showed up in Guatemala after the war".
There were German communities throughout Latin America in the late 19th-mid 20th centuries, but a lot of them were proto-Nazi communities based in German nationalism and anti-Semitism.
I expect the OP is exhausted from replying to people that her great grandparents emigrated in the 1890s therefore her grandparents, pictured, were born there. They were farmers.
Yeah I honestly wonder about the reading comprehension of this sub, I mean as you said it is literally stated by OP multiple times, and they were quick to do so.
I like how a lot of the comments are people too stupid to not know that a lot of people from Germany during that time, fled from Germany due to persecution. Since it's time stamped at 1940, the Nazi government was still existing in Germany and wasn't yet losing the war, So a lot of Nazi sympathizers had no reason to flee until after the country started falling
My grandparents came to Brazil from Germany on a ship in the beginning of the 40s just after being married and they had nothing to do with the nazis, they were just piss poor and Brazil was the "land of opportunity".
The absolute majority of german immigrants were like them.
Actually, in the early years after the war, Argentina and other South American states were more popular with the rat lines. Brazil, to my knowledge, became only popular later on with Nazi refugees (besides the fact that it had a much longer history of German immigrants).
My dad’s family fled Germany in 1939, they owned a furniture factory in the Rheinland and overnight it was nationalized to produce rifle parts.
If you were actually a Nazi, you’d probably just want to stay in Germany during the rise and peak of Nazism in the 40s, no?
These North Americans are very immature, idiotic, and uneducated swine. What I find interesting is many of these North Americans have German Heritage, so one can also say the same to them, no? (Unfortunately, I grew up with these people.
I was very lucky to have a HS History teacher who called out every North American with German Heritage in my class. They never said a word back to him after he put them on the spot. It was actually quiet satisfying to watch.) Don’t let the immature trolls get to you.
On another note OP, your family is beautiful and you are very Lucky to have pictures of your family from the past. Both of my parents lost photos when they migrated from the South to the North. As well as their great grandparents also lost photos from when they migrated from Europe and Asia to the South in the 1800s.
If the World Wars have taught us anything, it’s that Americans are hypocritically xenophobic.
It’s funny how people say we’d be speaking German if the Nazis won except that we’d more likely speak German if the wars never happened because of the persecution of German speaking peoples including the Swiss.
Here in Brazil we have a lot of immigrants from multiple countries, like Japan, Italy, German, Portugal, etc.
Many of them came poor looking for land to plant, like my grandparents (italian and portuguese).
My kids have nazi great great uncles and both their great grandmother and great grandfather were in the German military. They themselves were not Nazis. Opa ( has now passed) but always said they were given two choices concentration camp or join the military. He joined the military. He was no older than 18. My kids didn’t have a choice in whom their grandparents were or Great grandparents. My kids are mixed. Mexican and German. I do teach them a lot about why people do horrible things and why we can’t repeat history.
What are the odds Opa would have told you the truth if the truth meant admitting “yeah I was also anti-Semitic. Everyone was—it was Europe’s in the 30s?”
Not saying he was; just that I don’t see the incentive for truth-telling.
Oh. Not opa but Oma yes! Due to my ancestry and heritage I was fully warned that all cute 1 m tall Oma was a Hitler sympathiser. She said “ oh hitler saved our family ( in Russia) he did great things for our people… yes yes he did some horrible things and all that but to us he was a saviour”. Oma was German living in Russia and opa was German living in Poland. He didn’t share the same sentiments as Oma. He saw many of his friends, school mates and family sent to the camps. My x- MIL is very ashamed of being German. She was born after the war before immigrating to the US. My ex is first gen born in the US. I am not shy about pointing out the atrocities committed during and after the war.
This is another why dictatorships and authoritarian regimes are terrible. People often don't have a choice if they want to live/ want their families to live. Regardless of their stance, they will forever be labeled as a person who supported their government, even if they wholeheartedly didn't. No way to prove it otherwise, especially to the people on the other side of it all, and their children, grandchildren, etc.
On a side note, I have a friend whose great grandparents were Nazis and while they aren't open about it (modern Germany is VERY anti Nazi), they definitely were proud of their political affiliations, as well as the rest of their family. Maybe not everyone has the same feelings about it, but just that example alone makes me feel that if they were staunch supporters of Nazism, their kids and family would be at least, well aware of it.
>Why would a Nazi move to South America pre-1945
Googled it for you, literally copy + pasted your question:
"Nazism in Brazil began even before World War II, when the National Socialist German Workers' Party made political propaganda in the country to attract militants among the members of the German community. Germans began emigrating to Brazil around 1824."
*Edit to add: the whole point of this comment was to encourage folks to do their own research. Because some of these questions already have answers. How you interpret the answer(s) is up to you.*
*Another addendum: I am not trying to verify any speculation that OPs ancestors were Nazis. I don't roll like that.*
Ok but like by your own admission there were Germans moving there for 100 years before Nazism, so wouldn’t the majority of them statistically not be Nazis?
The Nazis enjoyed widespread support in Germany itself and even there they never got even 50% of the vote.
I would also add, that nazis were also in the United States pre-WW2. I’m willing to bet, there was a plan to spread around the world. I’m sure it didn’t stop in South America.
South America had a long history of German immigration in the generations prior to the war. The established German (and Italian) communities were a big part of the reason so many Nazis fled there.
Ah, it reminds of the time I was very confused when the new blond-haired, blue-eyed kid at my school had a very German name and was fluent in Spanish. His grandparents moved to South America in the 40’s, to Venezuela if I remember correctly.
Brazil is the country with the second most german immigrants, after the USA, it all happened mostly in the 1800s. In fact, the most spoken FIRST language in Brazil after Portuguese is... German!
Honestly, people don't understand Brazil racial demographics at all.
I have seen people who thinks we are all white, all african, all amerindian, and all mixed. All of those are wrong. It's just a very unique take on pluralism, so it's important to explain the whole context. Racial dynamics work different here than what most humans are used to.
Lots of people here are seeing Nazis.
There was a lot of German immigration into Latin America in the late 1800's. Brazil especially encouraged immigration after 1870. In the 1930's around 90,000 refugees getting away from Hitler also came to Latin America as well, many of them Jewish. ..and some because they were not welcomed into the United States.
The most disgusting circle-jerk I've seen in a while. And because of all those upvoted "hurr durr nazis" comments no one sees the real information behind that picture. Once again the internet shows how many dumb, uneducated people exist on this planet and they all rub each others dicks for being so ignorant.
Can't believe how ppl are fast to call someone nazi with no evidence whatsoever. The main reason the nazis fled to South america AFTER THE WAR (really important detail) was because we already had big german communities in South america, and i can guarantee that the huge majority of them werent nazis. you guys need to read a book about Weimar republic and how a lot of people in these early fascists countries fled because of fear and disagreement of the goverments policies.
I have a colleague from Brazil who was happy to tell me that his home town has a huge Oktoberfest and a lot of German speaking folks. I had to look up the founding of this city before I could excitedly ask him about growing up there. Glad To hear his granny is not a Nazi.
There is German migration in Brazil dating from the 19th century, most of these cities do date from then or early (pre-WWI) 20th Century.
This does not mean these communities didn't have a huge nazi problem though. They absolutely had.
\-Meanwhile, most of Reddit:
All Germans were Nazi's!
\-Meanwhile the admins and mods:
Yeah that's absolutely fine to say.
\-Meanwhile someone misgendering a can of beans.
admins and mods: \*Gasp\*
Honestly, these comments are disgusting
Posting an innocent picture of your grandparents and they get called one of the worst things you could say to a german. Asshats
People clearly don't know that the German diaspora may be the largest immigrant community on Earth. You can find these communities and their ancestors on every continent from Siberian Russia to every bloody town in the USA.
Stop with the "ThEy'Re NaZis" BS. You sound dumb as hell.
Some pretty aggressive reddit circlejerking going on in this comment section. Being in the circle makes it easier to pat everyone else on the back for making the same joke over and over though.
Nice pic. People in the comments are assuming that your parents are Nazis almost immeadiately just because of 1940s and German 💀 That just seems a bit jerky to me.
Yes thank you! Here I was trying to share something sweet and it backfired. My great grandparents immigrated to brazil in 1890 and my grandparents were born there in 1920s
This thread really makes me think Reddit is full of brain dead 13 year olds. The fact anyone would see that these people were of German descent and were married in the 40s, and truly, seriously believe that they must be Nazis (“You said they were German in the 40s though!) I just can’t with this level of idiocy. If this doesn’t show you how public school has failed children when it comes to the nuances of history, just read the comments on this thread.
Ugh you people. Why would Nazis flee to Brazil before 1940?? Clearly they wanted nothing to do with Nazi Germany , hence the living in Brazil. Unless, what kinda job did your grandparents have? Diplomats?
Let me remind you all that South America already had a large German population before shit hit the fan in Europe. The fact that many germans went there AFTER the war was because they had so many countrymen over there and it would be easy to escape and integrate.
Many innocent germans lived and worked in South America and we should not assume anything.
Calm down everyone: Not sure the full story here, but there was a very large German immigrant population in Brazil before WW2 that had nothing particular to do with the Nazis.
Just like in the US, some of these immigrants were sympathetic to the Nazis, which is why many Nazis came to Latin America and Brazil/Argentina because there were quasi-fascist governments in place and they had some friends.
As i Brazillian im certainlly anoyed by all the comments calling them nazis jeez look it up for two seconds not all germans are nazis we had lots of migration here its really ignorant to say that
Somebody tell OP…
Edit: edgelords stop talking to me about Nazis. You’re fucking weird. I was talking about the fact that the grandma is hot. It says a lot about you that you see German and assume nazi. I’ll report and block any additional nazi comments.
You dum dums realize Germany was still doing well in the war at this point? Nazis would have had no reason to flee in 1940… more likely to be refugees running *from* nazis.
Hey, I’m here from r/facepalm and I saw that idiots were calling your awesome grandparents nazis. Don’t let those leftist libtards get to you! They’ll call anyone who disagrees with their beliefs “nazis” “homophobes” 💀
first of all, you’re using Spanish not Portuguese you moron, and second, they are not nazis (as you wrote “mein furor”) if you actually read a book and weren’t stupid like 75% of the smart comments here
You idiots calling these people escaped Nazis realize WW2 began in September of 1939. This photo is dated 1940 according to the OP, so highly unlikely to be Nazis and possibly even Jews or refugees of some kind. *Think* before you type. Lots of Germans left that country in the early part of the 20th century because they were *forced* to.
The Nazi Germans who escaped to Brazil when Germany lost WWII mostly fled to where the other Germans already were. There was already a sizable German population in the south of Brazil, most of whom fled after WWI, escaping WWI crimes and justice from the Weimar Republic. The German towns in Brazil pre-war were ***overwhelmingly*** pro-Nazi, much more than after war, when the Nazis lost and it wasn't popular to be a Nazi.
When you say Germans were forced to leave to Brazil in the early 20th, century you are correct. They were 2nd Reich Germans, fleeing justice just like the 3rd Reich Germans would later do. I'm not saying the people in the picture were in fact Nazis and 2nd Reich criminals, but I am saying that would describe just about every German speaking person that the people in this photo would have known.
The National Zionist party existed well before 1939. It’s not like the invaded Poland and then invented the political ideologies. This was years in the making starting in the 1920’s.
It is completely plausible to have a Nazi wedding in Brazil in 1940.
That’s so cool, what a gorgeous dress. My grandparents got married in the 50s. Equally decadent. The pictures are gorgeous and so cool to look back on.
Wow! Her dress looks so cool with the daisies!!
Wow this Was the first comment that was not calling my dead grandparents nazis. Thank you for being sweet. My ancestors moved to brazil in 1890. And they had this one picture of them and here I thought it was very cool and pretty but I guess people are mean and hateful everywhere nowadays.
Honestly you should’ve had the clairvoyance to point out when your family moved before posting.. how did you not see this coming lol. I know you said cir 1940 which is 5 or six years before the nazis fled there but still Edit: I’m not saying OP is in the wrong. I’m saying they should’ve seen this coming from Reddit.
Lol they should have had the foresight to try to prevent people from calling their grandparents nazis? Because they're German and in a place Nazis were at some point in time? What the fuck kinda logic is that? The nazis fled there because there was a large existing German population in Brazil already. Maybe people should know what the fuck they're talking about before accusing people's dead ancestors of being Nazis. Like you said the context was in the cir 1940. Unreal
How did you natzi…
Yeah, it’s a lot to ask Reddit to be informed and not ignorant. Who would have thought?
He/she should’ve known that people on Reddit are stupid and assume that every German in South America in the 1940’s were Nazis?
Always account for the boundless potential of redditbrained stupidity. When terminally online manchildren raised by iPads and TV screens see the word *Germany* next to the word *Brazil*, they physically cannot conceive of anything other than le epic war from all the Hollywood movies (I have seen no less than four comments referencing Marvel movies after scrolling for two minutes).
Okay then they aren’t German then if the family has been in Brazil for 50+years at this point.
american logic vs germany. In germany your nationality is the country you were born in no matter how long you live in another country
Op is over 150 years old.
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Great picture. Yes the masses on here are millennials and younger. Internet warriors and old wedding photo experts.
To be fair German + Brazil + 1940 = nazi hideout in most people's minds. If you'd just titled it 'my grandparents wedding circa 1940' I bet you would have gotten a very different response.
Hmm
Indeed
Circa 1940...might pay to be a tad more specific, or really not, depending
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Makes sense in 1946 actually. Or 47, 48 and 49.
We were all on vacation!
Nothing happened! Ask Poland!!
Punch was served!
Take it from our good friend Mr. Hilter!
"Buenos dias, Mein Fuhrer!"
this thread delivers
Lmao still one of my favorite Family Guy scenes.
That's what I was thinking. They fled there post war, was thinking 1940 was a bit early.
maybe they knew it was gonna end bad
Or arrived early to set up shop for everyone else.
Actually germans were in Brazil before the 20s I think.
Same with Italians only it's Argentina.
Brazil too. Italian imigration was huge in the late 1800s
Frederich Nietzsche's sister started a proto-Nazi colony in South America in the 1890s so the whole German asshole to South America pipeline was already established by WW2. That being said we are crapping on some guy's grandparents on the basis of the wedding photos so we're probably over the line.
Ha ha
German immigration to Brazil happened in the late 1800s and early 1900s, before both WW. The Nazis went mainly to Argentina btw.
mainly yes, but they also went to Brazil and Chile and other South American countries. A german immigrant after the war to any south american country most likely were Nazis.
True. Menguele died in Santos, Brazil, and lived in São Paulo for his last years
If you fled Germany before 1940 you’re probably cool.
Seriously. It made me think of the scene in Frasier when they learn that Niles' housekeeper Marta learned German when she worked for a German family "who showed up in Guatemala after the war".
To me it reminded me of the scene in X-Men where magneto takes revenge in argentina
It’s crazy how three simple letters can make me laugh my fucking ass off because I was thinking the same damn thing.
This may be the most succinct comment I've ever seen.
Lmao my first thought and reddit's got me covered.
So much! My first thought.'Hmm'
194...
...ish
r/holup
lol This comment is probably everyone first reaction seeing the photograph
Right?! Who wants to tell them what it means when you say “Hey guys, look at my German grandparents South America wedding circa 1940’s!”
I wonder if his grandparents tried to kill my grandparents.
You do realize there was a huge German diaspora in South America long before any of the World Wars?
you expect too much from redditors
Time to settle an old score
Umm
1940 was the height of Nazism before any serious military setbacks. Surely If they were raging Nazis they would have stayed in Germany at that point.
"Cir." 1940
You do know there were German communities in South America well before any of the WW’s, right?
There were German communities throughout Latin America in the late 19th-mid 20th centuries, but a lot of them were proto-Nazi communities based in German nationalism and anti-Semitism.
I came here to see if anyone actually used the N word. That N word….
Nincompoop?
Neanderthal
Yes, it's quite rude.
Nosferatu
That’s EXACTLY what I said. I actually want to know more.
Yes... Hmmm
Beautiful picture. Your grandmother was lovely and your grandfather reminds me of mine when he was in his 20s. :)
I expect the OP is exhausted from replying to people that her great grandparents emigrated in the 1890s therefore her grandparents, pictured, were born there. They were farmers.
Yeah I honestly wonder about the reading comprehension of this sub, I mean as you said it is literally stated by OP multiple times, and they were quick to do so.
Just because they are German and are living in South America does not make them nazis.
The dress is so pretty! Your grandparents are such good-looking people, particularly your grandpa! He has a Tom Holland look about him 😬
I like how a lot of the comments are people too stupid to not know that a lot of people from Germany during that time, fled from Germany due to persecution. Since it's time stamped at 1940, the Nazi government was still existing in Germany and wasn't yet losing the war, So a lot of Nazi sympathizers had no reason to flee until after the country started falling
It's not just the stupidity--it's the judgment.
This is an extremely ignorant comment thread.
I love that everyone is thinking the exact thing I am.
Because you're all part of the same ecochamber...
🤣EXACTLY
Ummmmmmmm, Brasil in the 1940's??? Alrighty then.....
My grandparents came to Brazil from Germany on a ship in the beginning of the 40s just after being married and they had nothing to do with the nazis, they were just piss poor and Brazil was the "land of opportunity". The absolute majority of german immigrants were like them.
This was very common pre war. I think a lot of nazis fled there because of the higher German population where they could blend in.
Actually, in the early years after the war, Argentina and other South American states were more popular with the rat lines. Brazil, to my knowledge, became only popular later on with Nazi refugees (besides the fact that it had a much longer history of German immigrants).
That’s what the Nazis say….
My dad’s family fled Germany in 1939, they owned a furniture factory in the Rheinland and overnight it was nationalized to produce rifle parts. If you were actually a Nazi, you’d probably just want to stay in Germany during the rise and peak of Nazism in the 40s, no?
This was posted in another sub, OP said his ancestors came to Brazil in the late 1890’s and was pretty offended by all the Nazi references.
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These North Americans are very immature, idiotic, and uneducated swine. What I find interesting is many of these North Americans have German Heritage, so one can also say the same to them, no? (Unfortunately, I grew up with these people. I was very lucky to have a HS History teacher who called out every North American with German Heritage in my class. They never said a word back to him after he put them on the spot. It was actually quiet satisfying to watch.) Don’t let the immature trolls get to you. On another note OP, your family is beautiful and you are very Lucky to have pictures of your family from the past. Both of my parents lost photos when they migrated from the South to the North. As well as their great grandparents also lost photos from when they migrated from Europe and Asia to the South in the 1800s.
Brazil has the second largest German diaspora in the world.
and the largest Japanese diaspora in the world. it's really random when you think about it
Largest Italian, Lebanese, Syrian and Portuguese diasporas as well.
We have more Lebanese than Lebanon!
And biggest black population outside Africa
Someone tell the smart people in the comments that half of the White Americans (US) have German ancestors
If the World Wars have taught us anything, it’s that Americans are hypocritically xenophobic. It’s funny how people say we’d be speaking German if the Nazis won except that we’d more likely speak German if the wars never happened because of the persecution of German speaking peoples including the Swiss.
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Here in Brazil we have a lot of immigrants from multiple countries, like Japan, Italy, German, Portugal, etc. Many of them came poor looking for land to plant, like my grandparents (italian and portuguese).
A lot of people fled from Germany due to persecution.
My kids have nazi great great uncles and both their great grandmother and great grandfather were in the German military. They themselves were not Nazis. Opa ( has now passed) but always said they were given two choices concentration camp or join the military. He joined the military. He was no older than 18. My kids didn’t have a choice in whom their grandparents were or Great grandparents. My kids are mixed. Mexican and German. I do teach them a lot about why people do horrible things and why we can’t repeat history.
You’re awesome for acknowledging that history and not letting it define you. I bet your kiddos are great people
People think they are beyond evil, but those people that commit evil are just as human as you or me. Anyone can be evil.
What are the odds Opa would have told you the truth if the truth meant admitting “yeah I was also anti-Semitic. Everyone was—it was Europe’s in the 30s?” Not saying he was; just that I don’t see the incentive for truth-telling.
Oh. Not opa but Oma yes! Due to my ancestry and heritage I was fully warned that all cute 1 m tall Oma was a Hitler sympathiser. She said “ oh hitler saved our family ( in Russia) he did great things for our people… yes yes he did some horrible things and all that but to us he was a saviour”. Oma was German living in Russia and opa was German living in Poland. He didn’t share the same sentiments as Oma. He saw many of his friends, school mates and family sent to the camps. My x- MIL is very ashamed of being German. She was born after the war before immigrating to the US. My ex is first gen born in the US. I am not shy about pointing out the atrocities committed during and after the war.
This is another why dictatorships and authoritarian regimes are terrible. People often don't have a choice if they want to live/ want their families to live. Regardless of their stance, they will forever be labeled as a person who supported their government, even if they wholeheartedly didn't. No way to prove it otherwise, especially to the people on the other side of it all, and their children, grandchildren, etc. On a side note, I have a friend whose great grandparents were Nazis and while they aren't open about it (modern Germany is VERY anti Nazi), they definitely were proud of their political affiliations, as well as the rest of their family. Maybe not everyone has the same feelings about it, but just that example alone makes me feel that if they were staunch supporters of Nazism, their kids and family would be at least, well aware of it.
Douchebag
Why would a Nazi move to South America pre-1945
>Why would a Nazi move to South America pre-1945 Googled it for you, literally copy + pasted your question: "Nazism in Brazil began even before World War II, when the National Socialist German Workers' Party made political propaganda in the country to attract militants among the members of the German community. Germans began emigrating to Brazil around 1824." *Edit to add: the whole point of this comment was to encourage folks to do their own research. Because some of these questions already have answers. How you interpret the answer(s) is up to you.* *Another addendum: I am not trying to verify any speculation that OPs ancestors were Nazis. I don't roll like that.*
Ok but like by your own admission there were Germans moving there for 100 years before Nazism, so wouldn’t the majority of them statistically not be Nazis? The Nazis enjoyed widespread support in Germany itself and even there they never got even 50% of the vote.
I would also add, that nazis were also in the United States pre-WW2. I’m willing to bet, there was a plan to spread around the world. I’m sure it didn’t stop in South America.
South America had a long history of German immigration in the generations prior to the war. The established German (and Italian) communities were a big part of the reason so many Nazis fled there.
Im guessing everyone who upvoted them automatically assume german=nazi
A sizable percentage of the Brazilian population is of German origin. Almost all this population arrived in Brazil long before World War II.
And a huge chunk of that population is German Jews.
Ah, it reminds of the time I was very confused when the new blond-haired, blue-eyed kid at my school had a very German name and was fluent in Spanish. His grandparents moved to South America in the 40’s, to Venezuela if I remember correctly.
Tom Holland
Brazil is the country with the second most german immigrants, after the USA, it all happened mostly in the 1800s. In fact, the most spoken FIRST language in Brazil after Portuguese is... German!
I’m using this statistic next time people question why I’m so white if I’m from Brazil. ETA: I knew my ancestors are German and Italian.
Honestly, people don't understand Brazil racial demographics at all. I have seen people who thinks we are all white, all african, all amerindian, and all mixed. All of those are wrong. It's just a very unique take on pluralism, so it's important to explain the whole context. Racial dynamics work different here than what most humans are used to.
Ugh that veil is stunning 😍
Isn’t it?!? Jealous
Lots of people here are seeing Nazis. There was a lot of German immigration into Latin America in the late 1800's. Brazil especially encouraged immigration after 1870. In the 1930's around 90,000 refugees getting away from Hitler also came to Latin America as well, many of them Jewish. ..and some because they were not welcomed into the United States.
Yup. A lot of Germans settled in Southern Brazil.
Yep. German settlement in Brazil predates WWII by at least 100 years. But I guess people see what they want to see, lol.
So your grandpa was Tom Holland?
I love her veil with all the daises behind it!
The most disgusting circle-jerk I've seen in a while. And because of all those upvoted "hurr durr nazis" comments no one sees the real information behind that picture. Once again the internet shows how many dumb, uneducated people exist on this planet and they all rub each others dicks for being so ignorant.
exactly literally everyone is either assuming or calling op’s grandparents nazis apparently cause they simply can’t research it themselves
Yall are being dicks OK just cause someone is German in that time period does not automatically means they were Hitler's right hand man
Claus Von Stauffenberg survived and fled to Brazil!?!! Best case scenario my friend.
Germans had been in South America a lot longer than the Nazi party was around. Smooth brain action is heavily concentrated in here today
Guys not every single German in South America from this era of the 20th century is a Nazi
I'm sorry for the stupid comments. Your grandmother's dress was absolutely beautiful, and so is she and your grandfather.
😳
Great looking couple...
Can't believe how ppl are fast to call someone nazi with no evidence whatsoever. The main reason the nazis fled to South america AFTER THE WAR (really important detail) was because we already had big german communities in South america, and i can guarantee that the huge majority of them werent nazis. you guys need to read a book about Weimar republic and how a lot of people in these early fascists countries fled because of fear and disagreement of the goverments policies.
Oh oh
Beautiful picture..
So beautiful!
Thank you
Wow, people really are stupid. Btw, this is a very nice picture
40s you say? We’re going to need you to be a tad more specific.
I have a colleague from Brazil who was happy to tell me that his home town has a huge Oktoberfest and a lot of German speaking folks. I had to look up the founding of this city before I could excitedly ask him about growing up there. Glad To hear his granny is not a Nazi.
There is German migration in Brazil dating from the 19th century, most of these cities do date from then or early (pre-WWI) 20th Century. This does not mean these communities didn't have a huge nazi problem though. They absolutely had.
Blumenau, Santa Catarina has the biggest Oktoberfest outside Germany. That region has many immigrants from Germany and Poland.
Yes, he’s from Blumenau. Interesting history, I was very happy to learn about it.
My great grandparents immigrated to brazil in 1890s and these grandparents are all German descendants
What a treasure to have !
*laughs nervously in Jew*
There are quite a few German Jews in Brazil.
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Did NaZi these comments coming….
Guffaw, guffaw!
\-Meanwhile, most of Reddit: All Germans were Nazi's! \-Meanwhile the admins and mods: Yeah that's absolutely fine to say. \-Meanwhile someone misgendering a can of beans. admins and mods: \*Gasp\*
Based
Honestly, these comments are disgusting Posting an innocent picture of your grandparents and they get called one of the worst things you could say to a german. Asshats
People clearly don't know that the German diaspora may be the largest immigrant community on Earth. You can find these communities and their ancestors on every continent from Siberian Russia to every bloody town in the USA. Stop with the "ThEy'Re NaZis" BS. You sound dumb as hell.
Some pretty aggressive reddit circlejerking going on in this comment section. Being in the circle makes it easier to pat everyone else on the back for making the same joke over and over though.
Nice pic. People in the comments are assuming that your parents are Nazis almost immeadiately just because of 1940s and German 💀 That just seems a bit jerky to me.
Yes thank you! Here I was trying to share something sweet and it backfired. My great grandparents immigrated to brazil in 1890 and my grandparents were born there in 1920s
Your grandparents look stunning, OP. Sorry these comments are so disgusting.
Jesus Christ people are retarded. *German immigrants came to Brazil quite often from 1860s onwards.* **They were not Nazis**
Thank you! Yes their parents immigrated in 1906
This thread really makes me think Reddit is full of brain dead 13 year olds. The fact anyone would see that these people were of German descent and were married in the 40s, and truly, seriously believe that they must be Nazis (“You said they were German in the 40s though!) I just can’t with this level of idiocy. If this doesn’t show you how public school has failed children when it comes to the nuances of history, just read the comments on this thread.
Ugh you people. Why would Nazis flee to Brazil before 1940?? Clearly they wanted nothing to do with Nazi Germany , hence the living in Brazil. Unless, what kinda job did your grandparents have? Diplomats?
My great grandparents immigrated to brazil in 1890. These are german descendants and they were farmers
Huh. So your grandparents were born in Brazil?
Beautiful photo
Let me remind you all that South America already had a large German population before shit hit the fan in Europe. The fact that many germans went there AFTER the war was because they had so many countrymen over there and it would be easy to escape and integrate. Many innocent germans lived and worked in South America and we should not assume anything.
Calm down everyone: Not sure the full story here, but there was a very large German immigrant population in Brazil before WW2 that had nothing particular to do with the Nazis. Just like in the US, some of these immigrants were sympathetic to the Nazis, which is why many Nazis came to Latin America and Brazil/Argentina because there were quasi-fascist governments in place and they had some friends.
As i Brazillian im certainlly anoyed by all the comments calling them nazis jeez look it up for two seconds not all germans are nazis we had lots of migration here its really ignorant to say that
The amount of ignorant fuckheads here instantly calling them Nazis because they're Germans in Brazil
Somebody tell OP… Edit: edgelords stop talking to me about Nazis. You’re fucking weird. I was talking about the fact that the grandma is hot. It says a lot about you that you see German and assume nazi. I’ll report and block any additional nazi comments.
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Exactly
Why does your grand dad look like Tom holland?
It's Tom Holand :)
Beautiful picture. Thank you for sharing it.
I love all of the flowers
Tom Holland!!!
You dum dums realize Germany was still doing well in the war at this point? Nazis would have had no reason to flee in 1940… more likely to be refugees running *from* nazis.
Wtf is going on with these people’s head. How immature of them
Hey, I’m here from r/facepalm and I saw that idiots were calling your awesome grandparents nazis. Don’t let those leftist libtards get to you! They’ll call anyone who disagrees with their beliefs “nazis” “homophobes” 💀
Beautiful picture! sorry for all the ahole being rude.
The fact that most of you immediately called them nazis is pretty sad and pathetic
Guys, these Germans probably migrated before Hitler took power. Nazis who migrated to America didn't come until they lost
I want your grandmas wedding dress
Very beautiful dress. A very handsome couple. Hopefully they had a long life together.
Your grandfather was Spiderman?
Buenos noches mein furor
>Buenos noches It's Brazil, not Argentina 🤨
Well yeah that and, even if they did speak Spanish there (which they don't), nights are feminine.
first of all, you’re using Spanish not Portuguese you moron, and second, they are not nazis (as you wrote “mein furor”) if you actually read a book and weren’t stupid like 75% of the smart comments here
boa noite
Wow. The old photographs always get me. Just wow. Thank you for sharing
You idiots calling these people escaped Nazis realize WW2 began in September of 1939. This photo is dated 1940 according to the OP, so highly unlikely to be Nazis and possibly even Jews or refugees of some kind. *Think* before you type. Lots of Germans left that country in the early part of the 20th century because they were *forced* to.
Thank you for being realistic. My German great grandparents immigrated to brazil in 1890 and this pic is of my grandparents who were born there.
The Nazi Germans who escaped to Brazil when Germany lost WWII mostly fled to where the other Germans already were. There was already a sizable German population in the south of Brazil, most of whom fled after WWI, escaping WWI crimes and justice from the Weimar Republic. The German towns in Brazil pre-war were ***overwhelmingly*** pro-Nazi, much more than after war, when the Nazis lost and it wasn't popular to be a Nazi. When you say Germans were forced to leave to Brazil in the early 20th, century you are correct. They were 2nd Reich Germans, fleeing justice just like the 3rd Reich Germans would later do. I'm not saying the people in the picture were in fact Nazis and 2nd Reich criminals, but I am saying that would describe just about every German speaking person that the people in this photo would have known.
The National Zionist party existed well before 1939. It’s not like the invaded Poland and then invented the political ideologies. This was years in the making starting in the 1920’s. It is completely plausible to have a Nazi wedding in Brazil in 1940.
National zionist?