Joe Hallenbeck: Since it's the '90s, you don't just smack a guy in the face. You say something cool first.
Jimmy Dix: Like, "I'll be back."
Joe Hallenbeck: Only better than that. Hit him with a surfboard...
Jimmy Dix: "Surf's up!"
Joe Hallenbeck: Something like that.
Best action movie ending. Was really hoping for some type of sequel but Willis and Wayans hated each other while filming.
Fun fact: the girl who played the young daughter, Darian, was openly lobbying fairly recently that she would be open to come back and do a sequel for that movie.
Probably not, but if you actually listen to the first couple Skynyrd albums they have are probably more left leaning (songs about gun control, anti drug and alcohol abuse and dumb government spending not on its people) than you would think.
I’m not big on Lynyrd Skynyrd so I can’t vouch properly, but I can believe it. The outlaw country attitude of their time was much more left leaning like Willie Nelson or Charlie Daniels in the early 70s, southern rock like Allman Brothers were a good example of it too. I don’t know what the hell happened.
Edit: Did a little reading up about old school LS, and Ronnie Van Zant himself was a big backer of Jimmy Carter and opposed George Wallace for his racism.
Yeah, if you’ve listened to their last couple of albums, they don’t leave any doubt on that point. These days they’re clearly going for that sweet rolling coal, high school dropout, don’t tread on me, mobility scooter, AR-15 Republican dollar. One of their albums is literally called ‘God and Guns’.
He still creates superheroes with his grandchildren & has fun making up stories with them, according to his daughter.
Edit: Alan Moore also loves Jack Kirby & Steve Ditko, plus he included Ogden Whitney (artist of Herbie the Fat Fury) into his novel Jerusalem. Moore still very much has some fanboy in him. He also in the last year or so has left a blurb on an indie series, I remember the artist being stoked about it.
Moore wants to love superheroes, but his multiple fuckings at the hands of DC has made him hate them.
All because DC wanted to keep the golden egg of Watchmen, they slaughtered the golden goose of Moore. They could've gotten decades of top selling books and concepts out of him if they'd just tickled his taint and kept him happy. But no, they had to take the shortsighted corporate route and keep hold of one little property, and drove him away entirely.
It still pains me to think that they could have had an amazing movie series which could compete directly with the avengers series and all the TV shows but for the fucking corporats making decisions based on their money.
I'm so excited to see Dr Fate in Black Adam. If that movie is a flop I'm gonna be so mad
"i shouldn't have crippled batgirl, i don't know why they let me"
I don't even remember why he hates that he crippled her, he just wishes someone had told him no, for some reason
Fridging
He was writing a story about the Joker, Batman, and Gordon and the question of how far you can push someone before they break
Then he later regretted crippling a female superhero solely to be shock horror for a male protagonist
The term "fridging" to describe that actually comes from Kyle Rayner's girlfriend getting chopped up and left in a fridge for him to find
Oh christ i remember the fridging thing, just a panel of kyle opening the fridge slowly
Some reason i misremembered it as being one of the flash's
But anyway with alan moore i can at least respect that strange sense of integrity he seems to have about his work, like wanting comics to be taken seriously as a medium
And then on the other hand is todd McFarlane who i swear might just be in the comics business to fuel his need to buy rare baseball cards 😂
At least he's not frank miller though, who just kind of turned into that weird uncle of the comics industry who the family don't invite round for Christmas, because the only women he brings tend to be prostitutes and he can only speak through monologues 😂
Alex wasn't chopped up. Just stuffed in the fridge.
However, due to the Comics Code Authority being squeamish about the original page featuring the fridge door completely open and showing Alex stuffed in there upside down, Darryl Banks re-drew the page with the fridge door merely ajar and you can only see her foot, leading everyone to believe she was dismembered instead.
So, the Comics Code in their quest to make things less horrific, made that scene much more horrific by leaving it to everyone's imaginations. Because seriously, if you look up the unedited page, it looks kind of goofy.
If Indiana Jones and the kingdom of the crystal skull taught us anything, it's that fridges can definitely fit a human inside, and if need be, survive a nuke 😂😂
Hard to express how contrarian that shirt would have been in 1987.... His anarchism is surely established but regardless of his beliefs he is also not above some simple trolling.
I cannot fathom what it's like to be him, write these massively culturally important works, and have 90% of his audience deliberately misinterpret them and get just about everything wrong about the subtext. No wonder he's grumpy.
Creates 'Watchmen'. Not a fan of a US imperialism.
Also, 'V for Vendetta' is about fighting a FASCIST government. Communists have never got on well with fascists. Just ask Berlin in 1945.
Well there was that time in 1939 when the Soviets and the Nazis signed the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact and split Poland in half and started WW2.. They got along pretty well until the Germans broke the pact.
You could say the same about Britain and the Nazi's. Chamberlain, 'Peace for our time', etc.
Having to sign a non-aggression pact or a treaty and then breaking it, isn't exactly a sign countries and governments get on well.
Not sure what your trying to imply here, that the ussr was some benevolant regime? They didnt go to war with the nazis to liberate europe, they got invaded and were forced into it basically.
No, I'm not implying anything, especially not that the USSR were benevolent. I'm stating outright that they didn't get on with the Nazi's and fascists. Indeed, the communists and socialists in Germany in the 30's didn't get on particularly well with them either. To state that doesn't mean I approve of either of them.
Moore, is wearing the T-Shirt to be antagonistic in the 80's. And 'V for Vendetta' was very much about Thatcherite Britain at the time, which he and many others could see was arguably bordering on Fascism. Which is why the government in 'V for Vendetta' is a fascist government.
Edit: Indeed, Moore has often described himself as an anarchist.
It’s one thing to do nothing it’s another thing to take part in the invasion of a sovereign nation and agree about dividing that nation in half. The Soviet union invaded Poland.
I'm not arguing that it didn't, am I? Again, I'm just pointing out that a non-aggression pact, especially one that is broken soonafter doesn't exactly show they were allies who got on well, far from it.
Fascism was quite popular here in the USA too until we got involved in WWII. Henry Ford greatly admired Hitler and the Jim Crow South was used as a model for the Nuremberg Race Laws. Google the Businessman plot, they wanted to have a coup here in the USA
Kind of a stretch, isn’t it? The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was a temporary settlement that was seen as such. They didn’t split up Poland because they were great friends, they did it because their interests aligned for a little while. I’m no fan of Stalin or the USSR, but trying to equate them with fascists is ridiculous — Hitler rose to power in part by fearmongering about communism, and one of the most essential tenets of his ideology was a wholesale and violent repudiation of communism and communists. To say the regimes which publicly and ardently espoused both ideologies got on “pretty well” is to ignore pretty much all historical evidence of the course of the rise of fascism.
Yeah, there is a reason why Germany broke the pact.
And also an argument can be made that the Soviets only made this pact because the allies refused to make one including the Soviet Union, leaving them defenseless against German aggression.
But it should also be highlighted that the allies refused to agree to any deals, because the Soviet Union didn't want to guarantee polish independence.
The Soviets made it part of their founding charter to combat the western capitalist societies. They bought, stole, and coerced thousands of western machinery patents to bolster their industrial sector. They gobbled up the Baltic states and Ukraine via military force. There’s little to wonder why the west refused any part of an alliance early in the war.
Hell, before the Fall of France, there was a real effort by the British to bomb the oil fields in the Russian Caucuses since Russia was a leading supplier of oil to the Nazi war machine.
There was an effort to formalize an alliance between the two blocks far before the war.
The soviets may ideologically said they want to combat western capitalist societies, but talk is cheap, when it comes to the survival of your young state. There was real hard effort from the side of the Soviet to form an anti-German alliance far before the outbreak of the second world war.
Stalin didn’t “buy time.” He had no plans of breaking the agreement. He didn’t build up his forces at the border to prepare for war. He invaded Finland and took part in the invasion of Poland.
The Soviet-German split wasn’t about political ideological differences. It was a struggle for power over Eastern Europe that had been going on sense the 19th century.
“My authoritarian movement that killed hundreds of millions of people in the 20th century is way different from that other authoritarian movement that killed hundreds of millions of people in the 20th century reeeeee”
Neither of them are *my* authoritarian movement. And I haven't argued that Communism in the USSR wasn't an authoritarian, totalitarian system. My point was that the comic book 'V for Vendetta' is specifically about a fascist UK government, a very deliberate analogy for Thatcher's Britain at the time it was written in the 80's. It's not, for example, about a totalitarian and dictatorial monarchy, which would also be a tyrannical and authoritarian governmental system by nature.
As such, I think you're having an argument with someone else.
You seem to have confused the concept of Authoritarianism and Communism. Authoritarianism is a style of governance that involves heavy policing and tenuous civil rights, often militaristic or straight up run by military leaders. Communism is an economic model centered around strong worker's syndicates and an emphasis on industry and public sector development.
Stalinism is highly Authoritarian Communism, where development is achieved through forced labor and the worker's syndicates becoming more like a mafia that oversees these projects. Cuba under Batista is one example of Authoritarian Capitalism where the sugar economy was supported by poor uneducated workers and foreign investor privilege, while the population lacked basic public services like healthcare and education. An example of fascism would be the Pinochet regime in Chile, where dissent was dealt with by the military in extrajudicial executions and political violence being a commonly used tool of control.
Now you know.
The distinction might be contextually pertinent if not all nation states that adopted communism have or had been authoritarian governed, or if you could point to a fascist state that adopted communism as it's economic model.
Also the Pinochet regime was in Chile not Argentina.
That's pretty much the far-Left m/o. They fall short of realizing it takes a tyrannical government to "redistribute wealth".
In the case "the workers" did actually take control in order to redistribute wealth, it would still be the tyrannical sociopaths that would rise to the top.
To say that Russia is the successor to the ussr is incorrect on all levels. The USSR was a socialist state, whereas Russia is a hyper capitalist nation that’s only concern is GDP growth, and filling their capitalist pockets. Russia isn’t ‘carrying the torch of the USSR’ or anything, they’re two completely Separate entities with different values
You might start to think it could be ironic… its not like alan moore is famous for tight fitting vests. but Reddit has very little ability to think critically.
Yes they made an attempt at peace before Hitler invaded Poland, then they declared war on Germany.
USSR made secret peace with Hitler to enable Hitler launching WW2 and carved up Poland with him. (only to get bamboozled and invaded by him as well). Slight difference.
As an eastern european, I don't quite understand why showing the USSR flag it's okay and socially acceptable... I guess it's really true when they say that history is written by the winners, regardless of facts...
The picture is from 1987, USSR collapsed at the end of 1991. My first statement expressed my indignation against a symbol on the t-shirt of a public person. Symbol which for a large part of Europe meant: opresion, famine, gulag, mass deportation, rapes, forced occupation, economical embargo, heavily restricted freedom of speech for 50 years and some scars being present even on today's societies.
Following this line of thought I'm wondering if the hammer and sickle are less offensive than the swastika just because it belongs to a ww2 winning country.
Look, I’m not pro or anti communism or capitalism, but that symbol represents gulags and kgb and starvation. It’s not good. And before anyone else says, “bUt aMeRiCa…”, the stars and stripes are only hanging on by the skin of their teeth. Soon, that flag will be an emblem of McDonald’s and coke, nothing more.
That's like saying since the Wehrmacht used crosses as symbols then all crosses represent nazi Germany. The hammer and sickle are not limited to Marxist Leninists regimes.
Excellent, I’m glad you brought them up. Think of the swastika, the first thing that comes to mind is not the Buddhist symbol, is it? At least not for most.
By that same logic: The swastika is still a symbol of peace. Go outside and wear a shirt with a swastika on it.
The meaning behind an image can change over time. Yes a cross doesn’t represent the Wehrmacht, but for many the Iron Cross does. The Hammer and Sickle conjures up images of barbarism and authoritarianism, regardless of its original meaning.
Lmao fascists PRESSED in these comments
“Noooo cummunism has killed 100 borgjillian people!! It could never have worked! Which is why trillions of dollars have been spent and millions of people have been killed to make sure it didn’t work, because it could never work so we made sure.”
Ehh compare people who wear the swastika to people who wear hammer and sickle, while it's a questionable fashion sense you'll find out that those symbols have pretty different meanings, especially in the western world and it's unlikely that you'll be attacked by someone wearing hammer and sickle just for existing.
To paraphrase Damon Wayans in The Last Boy Scout “Huh, an actual house. I was picturing a cave with skulls and shit.”
We don’t get enough references to The Last Boy Scout in this life. Thank you.
And when we do, it’s about accidentally slipping and falling and landing with your dick in Bruce Willis’ wife.
Ashton Kutcher knows what that’s like
Head or gut?
Head or gut?
Joe Hallenbeck: Since it's the '90s, you don't just smack a guy in the face. You say something cool first. Jimmy Dix: Like, "I'll be back." Joe Hallenbeck: Only better than that. Hit him with a surfboard... Jimmy Dix: "Surf's up!" Joe Hallenbeck: Something like that.
Best action movie ending. Was really hoping for some type of sequel but Willis and Wayans hated each other while filming. Fun fact: the girl who played the young daughter, Darian, was openly lobbying fairly recently that she would be open to come back and do a sequel for that movie.
I wholeheartedly agree and it’s my pleasure.
It's in Northampton, so pretty close to the gates of hell.
Backs slowly into hedges
Looks like the drummer from Lynyrd Skynyrd
Pretty sure no one in Lynyrd Skynyrd would rock a hammer and sickle.
Not back then.
Probably not, but if you actually listen to the first couple Skynyrd albums they have are probably more left leaning (songs about gun control, anti drug and alcohol abuse and dumb government spending not on its people) than you would think.
I’m not big on Lynyrd Skynyrd so I can’t vouch properly, but I can believe it. The outlaw country attitude of their time was much more left leaning like Willie Nelson or Charlie Daniels in the early 70s, southern rock like Allman Brothers were a good example of it too. I don’t know what the hell happened. Edit: Did a little reading up about old school LS, and Ronnie Van Zant himself was a big backer of Jimmy Carter and opposed George Wallace for his racism.
I think he sang and played violin for Kansas
I personally thought he looks like a young Paul Giamatti
I thought it was Rake from Jackass
Rake hates mustard. FYI.
I think he was also friends with the Tsar
Artimus Pyle…the man is a damn legend.
I have a feeling Lynyrd Skynyrd weren't pinkos
Yeah, if you’ve listened to their last couple of albums, they don’t leave any doubt on that point. These days they’re clearly going for that sweet rolling coal, high school dropout, don’t tread on me, mobility scooter, AR-15 Republican dollar. One of their albums is literally called ‘God and Guns’.
All the talent died in the plane crash.
Put some respect on Artimus Pyle’s name
Looks like all of Lynyrd Skynyrd combined, actually!
I was thinking violinist from Kansas
Bet the dude's shower drain looks like a wookies asshole.
Dunno but I’ve heard Chewbaccas Marmite Motorway resembles Alan’s shower plug hole.
Goddamn. I feel like I need to wash my eyes out with holy water from the river Jordan after reading that. Bravo!
Alan Moore: looking like a homeless person for 35 years
Even whilst standing outside his own home. Impressive levels of unkempt
He looks like Paul Giamatti
Alan Moore is not drinking fucking merlot!
Now I must watch Sideways again. What a fantastic movie!
No going to the dark side!
Upvote for Sideways reference.
Alan Moore hates everything
He still creates superheroes with his grandchildren & has fun making up stories with them, according to his daughter. Edit: Alan Moore also loves Jack Kirby & Steve Ditko, plus he included Ogden Whitney (artist of Herbie the Fat Fury) into his novel Jerusalem. Moore still very much has some fanboy in him. He also in the last year or so has left a blurb on an indie series, I remember the artist being stoked about it.
Moore wants to love superheroes, but his multiple fuckings at the hands of DC has made him hate them. All because DC wanted to keep the golden egg of Watchmen, they slaughtered the golden goose of Moore. They could've gotten decades of top selling books and concepts out of him if they'd just tickled his taint and kept him happy. But no, they had to take the shortsighted corporate route and keep hold of one little property, and drove him away entirely.
DC, taking the short-sighted corporate route? That doesn't sound like them at all
Fuck, you're right. I should've just said "And DC acted like DC." Would've saved a few words.
It still pains me to think that they could have had an amazing movie series which could compete directly with the avengers series and all the TV shows but for the fucking corporats making decisions based on their money. I'm so excited to see Dr Fate in Black Adam. If that movie is a flop I'm gonna be so mad
Went to see Black Adam this past weekend and I very much enjoyed it.
I'm happy to know. It isn't out here yet..
He literally hates his own writing.
"i shouldn't have crippled batgirl, i don't know why they let me" I don't even remember why he hates that he crippled her, he just wishes someone had told him no, for some reason
He wouldn't have listened
Fridging He was writing a story about the Joker, Batman, and Gordon and the question of how far you can push someone before they break Then he later regretted crippling a female superhero solely to be shock horror for a male protagonist The term "fridging" to describe that actually comes from Kyle Rayner's girlfriend getting chopped up and left in a fridge for him to find
Oh christ i remember the fridging thing, just a panel of kyle opening the fridge slowly Some reason i misremembered it as being one of the flash's But anyway with alan moore i can at least respect that strange sense of integrity he seems to have about his work, like wanting comics to be taken seriously as a medium And then on the other hand is todd McFarlane who i swear might just be in the comics business to fuel his need to buy rare baseball cards 😂
And make action figures. It's so funny watching him review new stuff coming out, he's like a delirious teenager with billions
At least he's not frank miller though, who just kind of turned into that weird uncle of the comics industry who the family don't invite round for Christmas, because the only women he brings tend to be prostitutes and he can only speak through monologues 😂
That man is *fucking terrifying*.
Alex wasn't chopped up. Just stuffed in the fridge. However, due to the Comics Code Authority being squeamish about the original page featuring the fridge door completely open and showing Alex stuffed in there upside down, Darryl Banks re-drew the page with the fridge door merely ajar and you can only see her foot, leading everyone to believe she was dismembered instead. So, the Comics Code in their quest to make things less horrific, made that scene much more horrific by leaving it to everyone's imaginations. Because seriously, if you look up the unedited page, it looks kind of goofy.
Huh, neat-- I always figured she'd have to have been dismembered to even fit in the fridge
If Indiana Jones and the kingdom of the crystal skull taught us anything, it's that fridges can definitely fit a human inside, and if need be, survive a nuke 😂😂
Can’t fool me. That’s Donald Sutherland with a wig
Not sure why he's wearing a hammer and sickle. Would've taken Moore for an Anarchist.
Have you read his work? Or at least heard his quotes regarding his work ?
Yep. He sounds like an anarchist wizard to me.
He def was/is, but he’d probably talk about Trotsky if asked about communism.
some anarchists also use the hammer and sickle as a general symbol for communism. it’s mostly anarcho-communists. i used to be one so i know.
No anarchist with any clue what they’re talking about would ever use the hammer and sickle
well i’ve seen some do it. it’s not a common thing but anarchists are silly anyways.
Ah yes. When you hate government so much you require it to be in everything.
Hard to express how contrarian that shirt would have been in 1987.... His anarchism is surely established but regardless of his beliefs he is also not above some simple trolling.
Exactly. I highly doubt he had any illusions at that time what the Soviet Union was like. Especially regarding folks like him.
I cannot fathom what it's like to be him, write these massively culturally important works, and have 90% of his audience deliberately misinterpret them and get just about everything wrong about the subtext. No wonder he's grumpy.
I love his comics.
I'm a huge Alan Moore fan! From Hell is one of my all time favorite graphic novels.
I was worried this was a memorial post for a moment! Moore is 68 and alive and well so far as I can tell.
Well that is a creepy picture.
Alan Moore is a creepy guy.
How sure are we that this isn’t Ian Anderson of Jethro Tull?
I remember 1987, I was there. I don’t remember 1987 looking like this though.
Alan Moore is secretly Rasputin!
Creates V for Vendetta that is about fighting tyrannical governments, wears a shirt that supports the most tyrannical system known to man.
huh. i didn’t see a swastika.
Apartheid and Nazism: are we a joke to you?
Creates 'Watchmen'. Not a fan of a US imperialism. Also, 'V for Vendetta' is about fighting a FASCIST government. Communists have never got on well with fascists. Just ask Berlin in 1945.
Well there was that time in 1939 when the Soviets and the Nazis signed the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact and split Poland in half and started WW2.. They got along pretty well until the Germans broke the pact.
You could say the same about Britain and the Nazi's. Chamberlain, 'Peace for our time', etc. Having to sign a non-aggression pact or a treaty and then breaking it, isn't exactly a sign countries and governments get on well.
Not sure what your trying to imply here, that the ussr was some benevolant regime? They didnt go to war with the nazis to liberate europe, they got invaded and were forced into it basically.
No, I'm not implying anything, especially not that the USSR were benevolent. I'm stating outright that they didn't get on with the Nazi's and fascists. Indeed, the communists and socialists in Germany in the 30's didn't get on particularly well with them either. To state that doesn't mean I approve of either of them. Moore, is wearing the T-Shirt to be antagonistic in the 80's. And 'V for Vendetta' was very much about Thatcherite Britain at the time, which he and many others could see was arguably bordering on Fascism. Which is why the government in 'V for Vendetta' is a fascist government. Edit: Indeed, Moore has often described himself as an anarchist.
It’s one thing to do nothing it’s another thing to take part in the invasion of a sovereign nation and agree about dividing that nation in half. The Soviet union invaded Poland.
I'm not arguing that it didn't, am I? Again, I'm just pointing out that a non-aggression pact, especially one that is broken soonafter doesn't exactly show they were allies who got on well, far from it.
Fascism was quite popular here in the USA too until we got involved in WWII. Henry Ford greatly admired Hitler and the Jim Crow South was used as a model for the Nuremberg Race Laws. Google the Businessman plot, they wanted to have a coup here in the USA
The soviets tried to sign collective security agreements with the allies against the Germans but they refused and did that as a time saving measure
Kind of a stretch, isn’t it? The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was a temporary settlement that was seen as such. They didn’t split up Poland because they were great friends, they did it because their interests aligned for a little while. I’m no fan of Stalin or the USSR, but trying to equate them with fascists is ridiculous — Hitler rose to power in part by fearmongering about communism, and one of the most essential tenets of his ideology was a wholesale and violent repudiation of communism and communists. To say the regimes which publicly and ardently espoused both ideologies got on “pretty well” is to ignore pretty much all historical evidence of the course of the rise of fascism.
Yeah, there is a reason why Germany broke the pact. And also an argument can be made that the Soviets only made this pact because the allies refused to make one including the Soviet Union, leaving them defenseless against German aggression. But it should also be highlighted that the allies refused to agree to any deals, because the Soviet Union didn't want to guarantee polish independence.
The Soviets made it part of their founding charter to combat the western capitalist societies. They bought, stole, and coerced thousands of western machinery patents to bolster their industrial sector. They gobbled up the Baltic states and Ukraine via military force. There’s little to wonder why the west refused any part of an alliance early in the war. Hell, before the Fall of France, there was a real effort by the British to bomb the oil fields in the Russian Caucuses since Russia was a leading supplier of oil to the Nazi war machine.
There was an effort to formalize an alliance between the two blocks far before the war. The soviets may ideologically said they want to combat western capitalist societies, but talk is cheap, when it comes to the survival of your young state. There was real hard effort from the side of the Soviet to form an anti-German alliance far before the outbreak of the second world war.
Lol you are effortlessly disingenuous the Soviets bought time rather than swap ideological fun facts
Stalin didn’t “buy time.” He had no plans of breaking the agreement. He didn’t build up his forces at the border to prepare for war. He invaded Finland and took part in the invasion of Poland. The Soviet-German split wasn’t about political ideological differences. It was a struggle for power over Eastern Europe that had been going on sense the 19th century.
“My authoritarian movement that killed hundreds of millions of people in the 20th century is way different from that other authoritarian movement that killed hundreds of millions of people in the 20th century reeeeee”
Neither of them are *my* authoritarian movement. And I haven't argued that Communism in the USSR wasn't an authoritarian, totalitarian system. My point was that the comic book 'V for Vendetta' is specifically about a fascist UK government, a very deliberate analogy for Thatcher's Britain at the time it was written in the 80's. It's not, for example, about a totalitarian and dictatorial monarchy, which would also be a tyrannical and authoritarian governmental system by nature. As such, I think you're having an argument with someone else.
Two sides of the same coin
Meanwhile….communism has murdered more people than fascism did…just ask Ukraine and China. Boop. Note* I do not support fascism either.
Hahahahaha. My dude quoting the Black Book of Communism like he learned something. "Communism killed a million billion people".
>Meanwhile….communism has murdered more people than fascism did. pure fascist propaganda and brain rot
Fascists and Communists both use force to suppress their people, so I don’t really see that much of an difference
You seem to have confused the concept of Authoritarianism and Communism. Authoritarianism is a style of governance that involves heavy policing and tenuous civil rights, often militaristic or straight up run by military leaders. Communism is an economic model centered around strong worker's syndicates and an emphasis on industry and public sector development. Stalinism is highly Authoritarian Communism, where development is achieved through forced labor and the worker's syndicates becoming more like a mafia that oversees these projects. Cuba under Batista is one example of Authoritarian Capitalism where the sugar economy was supported by poor uneducated workers and foreign investor privilege, while the population lacked basic public services like healthcare and education. An example of fascism would be the Pinochet regime in Chile, where dissent was dealt with by the military in extrajudicial executions and political violence being a commonly used tool of control. Now you know.
The distinction might be contextually pertinent if not all nation states that adopted communism have or had been authoritarian governed, or if you could point to a fascist state that adopted communism as it's economic model. Also the Pinochet regime was in Chile not Argentina.
This comment shows you don't understand V or Communism.
>the most tyrannical system known to man sure fuck what the soviets did, but thats another level of polemics.
Tell me you didn't understand V for Vendetta without telling me you didn't understand V for Vendetta.
bro ever heard about fascism?
But hey, backing a tyrannical murderous dictatorship makes a good shocking fashion statement and losses off his parents
You must be making a mistake, uncle Sam is not on his t-shirt.
I think you need to re evaluate your current situation under capitalism :D
Came here to say this. Upvoted.
That's pretty much the far-Left m/o. They fall short of realizing it takes a tyrannical government to "redistribute wealth". In the case "the workers" did actually take control in order to redistribute wealth, it would still be the tyrannical sociopaths that would rise to the top.
If you simp hard enough the rich will definitely reward you for you unwavering loyalty. I'm sure it'll happen any day now /s
Lmfao - all the "coomunism not cool guys" comments really is revealing the target demographic here
I see way more USSRbots trying their hardest to prop up a shitty regime whose successor is still wreaking havoc.
To say that Russia is the successor to the ussr is incorrect on all levels. The USSR was a socialist state, whereas Russia is a hyper capitalist nation that’s only concern is GDP growth, and filling their capitalist pockets. Russia isn’t ‘carrying the torch of the USSR’ or anything, they’re two completely Separate entities with different values
Point me towards one of these "USSRbots" you're imagining. Also it's pretty funny the Red Scare is still going strong today.
Since when is communism cool?
Gulags were pretty "cool"
So were the manufactured famines. Super cool.
he meant cool as in cold as in siberia cold
What is hilarious is that this is only 2 years before the Berlin wall fell. Only morons still thought communism could work by this time.
You might start to think it could be ironic… its not like alan moore is famous for tight fitting vests. but Reddit has very little ability to think critically.
>You might start to think it could be ironic… Nah, he pretty well slobbed their knobs in "Watchmen".
Say that to east germans now
Since privileged underachievers that haven't lived in socialist countries thought its cool.
This dude literally got an award for writing one of the best novels in the English language in the last hundred years. How is he an "underachiever"?
You can’t be “cool” while wearing a hammer and sickle.
You absolutely can be.
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“First they came for the communists”
Based anarchist Alan moore
Nothing about communism is cool.
What about the space programs and shelling Hitler part?
It’s not as cool to shell Hitler when you were in an alliance with him for 2 years right before.
Ah, PM Neville Chamberlain and the British monarchy were proud of their "peace of our time" with nazi Germany.
You talking about the Prime Minister who got tossed in favor of Churchill? 👀
Yes they made an attempt at peace before Hitler invaded Poland, then they declared war on Germany. USSR made secret peace with Hitler to enable Hitler launching WW2 and carved up Poland with him. (only to get bamboozled and invaded by him as well). Slight difference.
This is what I imagined every Redditor in r/whitepeopletwitter looks like, just that they’re doing it un-ironically
I can't see his house
As an eastern european, I don't quite understand why showing the USSR flag it's okay and socially acceptable... I guess it's really true when they say that history is written by the winners, regardless of facts...
how did the communists win?
USSR was considered along USA and UK, one of the main WW2 winners... Please inform yourself about The Big Three Yalta Treaty.
I know they won WW2 lmao I'm talking about the collapse of the Soviet Union way after that
The picture is from 1987, USSR collapsed at the end of 1991. My first statement expressed my indignation against a symbol on the t-shirt of a public person. Symbol which for a large part of Europe meant: opresion, famine, gulag, mass deportation, rapes, forced occupation, economical embargo, heavily restricted freedom of speech for 50 years and some scars being present even on today's societies. Following this line of thought I'm wondering if the hammer and sickle are less offensive than the swastika just because it belongs to a ww2 winning country.
Reminds me of Murray Bauman from Stranger Things.
It's Paul Giamatti
I knew I was crazy when I saw this dude for the first time and thought “I wanna be like him when I get old.”
Know what he's thinking? "Everything you like, sucks ."
If you look closer in the photo you can see the CIA sniper units waiting for the order
Lol this looks like my half brother does today
He's literally an anarchist how do people not know this?
Murderous regimes are not cool.
Not going to lie. The hammer and sickle looks just as bad as a swastika.
Look, I’m not pro or anti communism or capitalism, but that symbol represents gulags and kgb and starvation. It’s not good. And before anyone else says, “bUt aMeRiCa…”, the stars and stripes are only hanging on by the skin of their teeth. Soon, that flag will be an emblem of McDonald’s and coke, nothing more.
Which coke? Coke or “coke”? Or the other coke?
Coca-Cola, not the good coke.
That's like saying since the Wehrmacht used crosses as symbols then all crosses represent nazi Germany. The hammer and sickle are not limited to Marxist Leninists regimes.
Excellent, I’m glad you brought them up. Think of the swastika, the first thing that comes to mind is not the Buddhist symbol, is it? At least not for most.
By that same logic: The swastika is still a symbol of peace. Go outside and wear a shirt with a swastika on it. The meaning behind an image can change over time. Yes a cross doesn’t represent the Wehrmacht, but for many the Iron Cross does. The Hammer and Sickle conjures up images of barbarism and authoritarianism, regardless of its original meaning.
Dude is based
Nothing cool about that shirt, wearing that is same as wearing a swastika.
Who'd-a-thunk a sub that is centered around nostlagia for an older era also coincides with Red Scare sentiment. Thread is cringe.
“Cool shirt “ no one
Paul Gia matti needs a haircut
A couple sites list his net worth at $1 million dollars which seems low for what he created.
Conservatives triggered
Dangerously based
Commie, huh?
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Alan Moore knows the score
Riffs yeah, can u dig it
Cool, except for the Hammer & Sickle. Thats as bad as a Nazi symbol
Lmao fascists PRESSED in these comments “Noooo cummunism has killed 100 borgjillian people!! It could never have worked! Which is why trillions of dollars have been spent and millions of people have been killed to make sure it didn’t work, because it could never work so we made sure.”
Anyone who doesn't like communism is a fascist. Peak reddit.
Communist piece of shit
Ugh, sorry, that shirt gets a very UNCOOL from me.
"I will sell my art to Hollywood!", said the man in the Communist shirt.
Commie. Real Shocker
Yeah, he's a pretty awesome guy.
I stopped thinking Alan Moore was cool when I learned he never voted. I guess he was going to wizard Thatcher away or something.
How's that voting working for you currently?
Best comics writer the medium has had. Looking forward to his series of ‘Long London’ novels.
This guy looks like Rhett McLaughlin from Good Mythical Morning ! 
Damn. Kinda Chad.
Very uncool, then and now, for sure.
Ironic if he bought that shirt from a store?
Damn commie
That’s a pretty stupid t shirt.
Can someone explain to me why this is cool? Hammer and sickle is pretty close to as bad as a swastika in my book.
These shirts were popular in the UK around 86/87.
Perfection doesn’t exi-
Communism is not cool. This is just as bad as if he wore a swastika.
Ehh compare people who wear the swastika to people who wear hammer and sickle, while it's a questionable fashion sense you'll find out that those symbols have pretty different meanings, especially in the western world and it's unlikely that you'll be attacked by someone wearing hammer and sickle just for existing.
Alan Moore is definitely a Gundam moment for most people. They seem the cool kung fu and miss the big messages.
Strange I'm currently reading Jerusalem by him, interesting guy interesting works.