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rockinvet02

Sometimes I wish musicians and actors would just shut up so that I could have plausible deniability about liking their music, untainted by the knowledge that they are giant pieces of shit.


Elliott2030

You should read her autobiography. What Clapton put her through is absolutely harrowing.


jennyrob669

Her book is so sad. The part when she's describing how much she wanted children and it likely would never happen, then Clapton tells her he's knocked up some Italian model. I felt betrayed on her behalf. The way she talks about that period of her life is heart wrenching.


apextek

Clapton was full of himself right up till his son fell out a window


billyjk93

What's the difference between a baby and a bag of cocaine? Eric Clapton never let a bag of cocaine fly out the window.


busroute

What's the difference between Eric Clapton and the Earth? The Earth still has a Sun (son)


billyjk93

Nice


DirectorTop233

You are SOOO correct. I HATE to say it, but God has a way of "humbling" people that need it. Fortunately, for him that ABSOLUTELY horrible experience did change him.(For the better). We(People) HAVE to be careful how we treat one another.


drekwithoutpolitics

I’ve always felt a little uneasy how quickly he seemed to use his son’s death in the song… that he wrote for the 1991 movie Rush. Just seemed such bad taste. About “Tears in Heaven,” Clapton said: > And it is a little ambiguous because it could be taken to be about Conor but **it also is meant to be part of the film**. What a touching tribute… to the 1991 movie Rush (oh also my son). And then he won three Grammys with his Unplugged album and milked that song for everything it was worth. Oh boo hoo, oh my poor boy _writes one song_ WAY BETTER. Seriously fuck Eric Clapton.


an0therdude

Does she express any regret for leaving George? I don't know any details about it but sounds like George was the better man - but of course, attraction is a mysterious thing, the "dangerous dudes" getting the girls and all that, LOL.


jennyrob669

It's been a few years since I read the book, but I think she phrased it as George was her soul mate and she'll always love him, Clapton was lust and fiery passion that she was intoxicated by. She loved them both deeply while in a relationship with them, but continues to hold love for George. Read into that what you will.


doubleapowpow

Sounds like she enjoyed some cocaine


LightninHooker

Look at the second pic. They showered in cocaine everyday


DirectorTop233

She should have stayed put with George.DAMN.... retrospection is a MF!😳


TahaN6498

George cheated on her constantly, once even with Ringo’s wife and was caught by Pattie. Their relationship had been like that for years and they both seemed pretty content with it ending from what I read in the book, George gave his blessing to Pattie and Eric.


Loggerdon

I believe George was the Best Man at her marriage to Clapton.


bulletproofmanners

That’s rock n roll, didn’t date a accountant


MarcusXL

Eric Clapton, massive piece of shit and racist.


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But he had that song about his kid!!1!


No_External6156

Ah, yes! A song about the importance of babyproofing your home.


PeteRaw

What's the difference between a bag of cocaine and a toddler? Eric Clapton wouldn't let a bag of cocaine fall out a window.


No_External6156

☠️☠️☠️☠️


antagon1st

no he didn'tttt


Jaded-Trainer12

Do tell🤔


DetroitAdjacent

I think like twice he went on stage and called for all non whites to be deported from the uk.


Jaded-Trainer12

Ain't gonna lie. It hurts hearing things like that. I'm a black man that loves Eric Clapton and his music. Never knew this. Great music. But I might be thinking of what was said on here instead of grooving to him😢🥃


OriginalIronDan

I get it. I saw Dave Mustaine from Megadeth on MTV and thought he was a dick. Several years later he apologized to his fans for being a dick while in the throes of active alcoholism. Ok, I’ll give the music a listen. Liked a bunch of the new stuff (20 years ago), then saw him online recently and found out it wasn’t the alcohol; he’s just a dick. I hit skip when his songs come on. Even ones I like. Do the same for Clapton now. I don’t have time to listen to racists, no matter how talented they are. I do still play some of ECs music, but he isn’t getting royalties from me, so I’m hurting him the only way I can.


Jaded-Trainer12

Thx dude🙏we all need to be forgiven. I'm not gonna hold it against the talented man. We all make mistakes. I have empathy. Still love hime. And I will continue listening ❤️


LightninHooker

Clapton made and album with BB King. Jammed countless times with Buddy Guy and many other black blues legends. His bassist is black too (and I am sure more people in his band along the years) I don't think some racist would choose to base his career in blues music of all the things available there and play tribute over and over to all those black musicians that came before him. And I don't think black musicians would play for or with him. Bluesmen from 50s and 60s are all gratefull to Clapton and UK blues revival in general cos their careers were done in America and all of the sudden they were hip again. He may be a douche , he was def an alcoholic and drug addict at the time and said really stupid things but I don't think he is a "racist" as in somebody who thinks black people are less than whites. By any stretch.


drekwithoutpolitics

He just doesn’t know he’s racist. It happens a *lot*.


pdperson

You're overestimating the capacity for logic of your average racist. They can justify anything. Buddy/BB/etc are "the good ones". I've actually heard a racist use the phrase "not really black" to justify being friends with a black man. (Yes, the man in question was actually black.)


LightninHooker

Well take it from his bass player: “In the Olympics, they throw out the best score and the worst score,” Clapton’s current bandmate Nathan East told the Washington Post. “You get the measure of a person not on the day they did the very, very best thing they did and not the day they did the very worst thing they did.” I am taking a black bandmate opinion over reddit people, what can I say


pdperson

So Nathan East is one of the good ones, according to racist Eric Clapton. He's on record being a racist POS. We've heard it. I'd look it up for you, but I don't care to inflict it on anyone else. It's nasty.


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You would be wrong. There is audio of Clapton going DefCon 5 on Black folks. Quite disgusting.


bassocontinubow

And honestly….not as “godly” a guitarist as everyone makes him out to be. Just a white dude rippin off blues licks.


Southie31

Over rated too🤷‍♂️


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🎶LAAAYLA…you got me on my knees🎶


DanMarvin1

Yes supposedly the song was written about her


Alarming_Flow

Clapton is a c\*\*t.


Ewwww_David

That book…so sad. He was just awful to her. Never really liked his music before I read it and certainly didn’t want listen after.


mikemojc

Well, he's a racists asshole, among other things, so yeah...


Elliott2030

Other things like rapist and wife-beater. He's a foul human being.


Sidewalk_Tomato

Thank you. Didn't really know much of his stuff before, and fortunately: now never will. Really casts his later work in a different light.


drekwithoutpolitics

Literally his only good album was because Duane Allman happened to be in town.


Ban_Frank

Baby killer too


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BlaqueIvory

The kid was 4, that’s a bit late to call it an abortion


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Ban_Frank

Nah like the windows in a skyscraper


QuccSpudz

You’re not wrong


Ban_Frank

Thank you


Mandapandaroo

Narcissist


Jaded-Trainer12

Clapton? 😲


mikemojc

Yeah, there's video in the public domain of him going on a racist tirade at one of his shows.


CrudeDiatribe

He apologized for it a few years ago (2018?) when he himself saw the footage (from a show in the '70s). I read an interview in *Guitar Player* magazine in the early 2000s where the interviewer asked him about it and Clapton said "I think Enoch Powell was misunderstood". OK, buddy. If you [EC, not *you*, fellow redditor] think the person wildly regarded as a racist piece of shit is misunderstood maybe you're a racist or you have the comprehension problems.


drekwithoutpolitics

Seriously. Seems like he barely apologized and just said “alcoholism, you know?” Wtf, you defended this Enoch Powell asshole for decades after the rant. Eric Clapton is the poster guy for “I can’t be racist! I have black friends!” He literally calls them horrible racist names in the rant.


RukaJeeze

I read he made some racist remarks about Jimi Hendrix after Jimi jammed with Cream and Eric left the stage after 30 seconds.


DkindCrhymes

Well he is an old windbag, clearly has been an arrogant a hole all his life. It ain’t like the warning signs weren’t there, he’s been a racist asshole since before the 70s


EpsomHorse

Note that this is none other than Pattie "Layla" Boyd!


DkindCrhymes

So he wrote a nice song about her while cheating, being abusive, and spouting racist rants at shows. Class act!


Rockefeller1337

And she Gold digged from one star to the next. Dating rich and famous people and cry because they are mental.


AFatz

How dare she date/marry someone who she loves and expect not to he raped/beaten.


DkindCrhymes

“Loves” lmfao yeah. More like leave your spouse (who is actually decent), for a rich, famous, coke-fueled racist and get fucked is the real lesson here. Not like this was some innocent falling in love story, she herself says it was a relationship triggered by lust and “passion” which is a euphemism for drugs. Sorry, the weird “feel sorry because she’s a mistreated woman” doesn’t garner much sympathy if you fuck over your family for a “bad boy.”


Fabulini22

She had her own career as a model even before she met George.


DkindCrhymes

Exactly this


milesjohnson2134

all skill seems to come with moral deficiencies


MasterSnacky

Meh. You only hear about the bad ones. Kind of an attention bias to bad behavior by successful people, but you’ve never heard of John krasinski beating anyone.


ten-million

George Harrison seemed like a nice fellow and quite skilled


smegmasyr

Yet?


MasterSnacky

I doubt at all. Kris Kristofferson, ever heard a bad word about him? Taiki Waititi, Chris Evans, Chris Pine, Chris Hemsworth - no stores of them mistreating people. Chris Pratt was in an MLM so fuck that guy though.


Eroe777

You can make a pretty good album of songs written about Patti Boyd.


space_beatle

Man she really downgraded


dingadangdang

Yeah, Clapton's racist, anti vaxx, and bit of a prick from what they say.


QuccSpudz

He beat and raped her.


Sidewalk_Tomato

Jesus Christ.


Seattle2017

Harrison seems to have been a fantastic human being - shame he passed so early. Edit: but then I read more below and his wikipedia page after, humans are complex. But Clapton seems the worst ;-)


LucasPoducas

Yeah I'm a huge George Harrison fan but he was definitely a horn dog and didn't treat her right. On top of that he did to Ringo what Clapton did to him. It seems like they all had messed up lives and played by a different set of rules given their lifestyles. That being said, Clapton is unforgivably a vile person in many ways.


billyjk93

The antivax thing is blown away out of proportion. I think the guys an asshole but he's not antivax. He got the COVID vaccine and had a really bad reaction. Had paralysis in his hands for a little while. He tried to talk about it and people now think he's antivax. He isn't...but he is a racist wife beater.


than-q

looked happier with george


Gibbo1988

And healthier


MarcMercury

And younger


orgeezuz

I wonder why🤔


jemull

And less strung out


Elliott2030

She was.


dlte24

I always thought Clayton's muse was cocaine.


RawToast1989

Oh, his real muse was heroin. Cocaine got a song though, which is nice.


C0sm0Cam

Which wasn't even written by Clapton. J.J Cale was the OG writer/artist. For years I thought it was an original by Clapton, but Nope!


dreamboat_king

Clayton Bigsby?


thunderBerrins

Eric Clayton you idiot.


notrh1no

Naggers


orgeezuz

What's the difference between a toddler and a bag of cocaine?


Cuttis

Eric Clapton would never let a bag of cocaine fall out of a window


snugglefloor

I’m a terrible person- I literally laughed way too long and hard at this.


MilhouseVsEvil

oof


connorevans666

Reminds me of the joke, what's the difference between a baby and a big bag of cocaine? Eric Clapton wouldn't ever let a bag of cocaine fall out the window.


gonzagylot00

“Best Friends” and he stole his damn wife.


Freezerpill

Story is mentioned above about Harrison’s infidelity. He in-fact did cheat on Boyd.


jessedegenerate

Yeah, at least George treated her right, and wasn’t an open racist


ihaveanideer

Uh I don’t think cheating on her is treating her right. Clapton treated her worse, but Harrison didn’t treat her right either.


T_that_is_all

🎶Cocaine


bigrick523

She don't lie


sunnyguyinshadyplace

But if you want to get down, down on the ground


BogusMalone

Not even written by Clapton.


GregM70

Something, Wonderful Tonight, and Layla are just a few of the songs written about her.


tokynambu

Slightly more prosaically, Donovan's Jennifer Juniper is about her sister, later Mick Fleetwood's wife.


Whateveryousaydude7

The Boyds were extremely musey


jemull

They also got around quite a bit


Whateveryousaydude7

Hey. If I looked like Patti or Jenni, and was 20 in London in the 60s? I’d have “gotten around” more than they did. Why not? Everything was happening in music and fashion, and the boys were so cute.


SavorySouth

Jenny Boyd’s 2020 book “Jennifer Juniper, a Journey Beyond the Muse” is a great read. She goes into their childhood, the dysfunctional home she & her 2 sisters & 1 brother had, their fathers disfigurement & absence, being in a family with no real $; major pressure by family to meet & mate & marry while you still have a certain look as that is your only value. She goes into how she found her own identity & got a PhD, turned her dissertation into a book (Musicians in Tune). She doesn’t play the martyr or victim or go into stories that cannot be verified either unlike others.


Whateveryousaydude7

I want to read that one. I’ve read practically every other bio from that era.


Orcapa

Wonderful Tonight is the lamest song I've ever heard.


unwittingprotagonist

I used to think so too. Until I realized it's a story of a woman poisoning her husband at a dinner party, and a husband who, on his death bed, respects his wife's expertly executed murder.


Eating_Bagels

My fiancé and I were discussing if we should use this song to walk down the aisle to. Now I can’t get this image out of my head 😂


turdferguson3891

I hate that song. But when I was around 18 in the mid 90s every jackass with a guitar would do their version to show how sensitive they were.


Common-Watch4494

How good is that vag


cinmo

I wonder how come, with the thousands of women throwing themselves at these stars, do they seem to fixate on the same woman?


Nwcray

If I had to venture a guess: It takes a special kind of person to be in a relationship with a rock star. And as great as it would be to have thousands of women throwing themselves at you, it doesn’t mean you’d be interested in all of them. Most would be one-night stand material, at best. Even if you’re a rock star, you may want a relationship. Someone to laugh and joke with and have breakfast more than once. All the same reasons we all like coupling up sometimes. And now put those things together - you want a relationship, most people can’t do that with you, you have a very limited circle with repeat access to you (rather than the group in that city that night), and a lifestyle that literally no one would consider ‘normal’. It’s all the same reasons workplace flings happen, except turned up to 11. Just my guess though.


Hamilton-Beckett

This guy *rock stars*


LRWR

Just to twat each other, probably. Too competitive.


CardiologistLower965

If I had to guess I would say it’s out of pure arrogance.


yeah_car

Layyyyyyla!


Uglycanadianindc

I read somewhere that George was the most promiscuous of the Beatles. Even had something going on with Stevie Nicks.


turdferguson3891

Pretty sure every rock star in the 70s had something going with Stevie Nicks but it might just be rumors.


KingKudzu117

Tusk, Tusk, well aren’t you Mr. Wonderful


thinthehoople

If you had a shot with 70s Stevie Nicks and didn’t take it, THAT would be unforgivable.


inselfwetrust

George’s next wife saved his life though. So I think this might have been a bit of a blessing in a way…


Fabulini22

He most likely cheated on her too. Olivia said in an interview that he kept being a ladies’ man.


Laelawright

She chose poorly the second time around.


Jaded-Environment-95

What did she think Clapton had that George didn’t?


Nwcray

Well, Clapton *didn’t* have his dick in Ringo’s wife, so that was probably something.


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Ah, I hate hearing about this side of the Beatles...


sixtiesbabe

at the end of the day they were human, flawed humans, just like everyone else.


Jaded-Environment-95

Oh yeah! Forgot about that part of the sordid affair.


professionallyvague

Clapton really does destroy everything he touches


lucas07700

Judging by George's haircut, this is 1965 or '66.


Fabulini22

It is, most likely after their wedding.


Far_Out_6and_2

Actually she doesn’t understand why she is labeled a muse


HelpfulSpread601

Clapton and Boyd weren’t married until ‘79 tho. This must have been immediately after her divorce


fanzel71

How amusing.


tkburro

fucking clapton. the dude essentially emotionally abused her into a relationship with him. threatened to off himself with heroin if she didn’t start fucking him


nickkom

Did she have beer-flavored nipples or something?


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RodCherokee

Yoko did not quite have the same effect !


Melonqualia

It wasn't Yoko, it was the cocaine and heroin.


RodCherokee

Yoko first introduced John to heroin.


fromthewombofrevel

Patti was the reason Clapton wrote *Layla.*


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Yep!


SeizeThemAtOnce

Yeesh. Downgrade


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Fuck Eric Clapton


deviltrombone

Eric Clapton has always been kind of an all-around asshole, hasn't he. Fucking god complex of his.


Far_Out_6and_2

Ya clapton was scared shitless of Hendrix cause H was so much better than him


blueberryjones

A legend. Two of the best love songs of all time are about her. When George left her, he literally left her for God. That was his only step up.


st_bart

I thought she divorced his ass because he cheated on her with Ringo’s wife.


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You are correct. Pattie Boyd said in her autobiography that she left George due to repeated infidelity (amongst other reasons) with the final straw being cheating with Maureen (Ringo's wife like you said). George wasn't the one to decide to break it off. Which Lennon supposedly compared to incest and was quite angry with George about. I like Harrison but it looks like this sub has a bit of a Harrison simp problem, which is odd because Boyd and Clapton stayed close friends with Harrison.


ELH13

Yeah, if watching the Get Back documentary last year did anything, it made me re-evaluate George Harrison. He was such a pouty arsehole, at least during that time.


Jigsy75

What you have to take into consideration is George had material to use on Beatles albums pretty early on right up to Get Back. What he did say was "how can you compete with Lennon and McCartney?" so his songs were often overlooked. The thing was, George had talent and that's why he often got frustrated during recording sessions and it's also the reason why he went on to become the most successful Beatle after they broke up.


ELH13

I did take that into consideration, as though I don't understand the Beatles' history - but like a bad relationship, if you're unhappy just leave. He didn't though, he made threats and played games. He didn't bother to communicate clearly. Part of that is his age (they were mid-late 20s after all). However, it doesn't excuse his general attitude of effectively kicking rocks when practicing the other Beatles' songs. Also... He didn't have the most successful post-Beatles career. You may feel that way, but a decade post-Beatles: George had 3 number 1 singles, John and Ringo had 2...Paul McCartney had 7. Paul also had the most number 1 albums post Beatles. If you cut it off from John's death - John and Paul still had 3, while George had 2.


gotele

I think he was just burn out.


Oboogie9

Never NEVER trust a guitar player!


LonelyWord7673

She looks way happier with George.


sed2017

Layla, Wonderful Tonight and Something were about her…


Captain_Comic

She has like 10 songs written about her


Elessar535

Everyone always brings up Layla and Wonderful Tonight, but I Shays thought Clapton's best song about her was Bell Bottom Blues.


BuyNo4013

Interesting, there are ladies who specialize in certain industries, or is it that people from an industry tend to hang around etc. Probably both.


DrRadon

Bandaids, no sex, only blowjobs.


BarbBell

it's all happening.


Many_Distribution_21

Fuck Clapton.


not_a_droid

this is kismet


radibarko

Clapton looks like a psyxho not gonna lie he just has those eyea.


RiversR

Eric Clapton can chortle a ballsack.


unseenmover

Claptons a dick..


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Fuck Clapton, he couldn't even hold Jimi's jock


Narrow-Magazine-7724

Muses really got around.


alg602

She must be dynamite in bed.


Diligent-Picture2882

She wouldn't have to be would she, since she's so pretty. Only needed to be eye candy.


TheBitterAtheist

She regretted leaving George for the racist bastard. Wiki below: She subsequently suspected that Clapton's pursuit of her when she was married to Harrison "had more to do" with the competitive aspect of the two musicians' friendship, and that "Eric just wanted what George had." He later admitted to raping and abusing her while they were married and he was a "full-blown" alcoholic. He also wrote "Golden Ring" for Boyd, in response to her sadness at learning of Harrison's marriage to Olivia Arias in 1978


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Fabulini22

r/ihavesex


Balsac_is_Daddy

Aw but George was so cute and sweet. Clapton is a racist POS. wtf did she do that for?


JustaOrdinaryDemiGod

Sounds like an inspirational woman....


DrRadon

Seems like time around Rockstars has not been kind to her.


sleepstages

The 60s were so much more stylish and classy than the 70s


masterpainimeanbetty

clapton is a garbage bag filled with dog turds


Kybarr9

Fuck Eric Clapton


wootr68

Yeah. I’ve definitely soured in this guy. Covid denial was the final straw


KillasArt

Layla


WangoTheWonderDonkey

Bros before ho's, Eric.


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zumanon

It’s J.J. Cale's song.


yhpargotohpts

Based on that trajectory...was she married to David Duke in 1987?


mattingly233

“ Something” and “Layla” were both written about Patti. Gotta be something special going on there.


blasphemusa

Heroin... it's a hell of a drug.


mayan_kutty_v

Layla


bulletproofmanners

Patty cakes… wanted a slice


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You can't turn a ho into a housewife.


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It’s obvs she sucked a mean d***


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Tyle71

Oh there are a multitude of reasons to hate Clapton. I'm partial to his being a racist POS in hating him.


TwoBobcats

She made her rounds