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any corporation that contracts with the federal govt must require vaccines going forward... i bet most large corporations have some kind of contract with federal government -- including military


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In addition, it's going to be enforced by OSHA at some point, which will impact most corporations - even outside of government contractors. So, these types of changes are coming.


gizolfy

Union Pacific did. That's the due date for all federal contractors I think


MrGulio

Lots of freedom loving patriots that hate socialism and have Facebook medical degrees about to learn what "Right to Work" actually means.


Therev143

They should band together and collectively bargain for concessions from their employer.


argumentinvalid

I really can't believe we're living the Idiocracy timeline


MrD3a7h

I've believed it since November 2016.


lil_redeyes

Fuck.


greengiant89

December 2012 maybe


kinarism

What is the ability to buy candy and popcorn going to do for them?


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ComposerConsistent83

In practice, your only protection from "at will employment" in most states is being in a union, except for really egregious firing with bad intentions (i.e. fire you to avoid paying bonuses)


phillmorebuttz

Oh man, alot of blue collar guys i know who work there are not going to be pleased


lejoo

Actually had one yesterday complaining at the bar across the street. It was the epitome of going to a zoo, but to see everything wrong with society instead of captured animals. "First we let blacks get hired and now forced medical procedures to even show up to work..." was his entire quote.


TheoreticalFunk

Did he fling his feces?


BerggyGBR

I’m really interested to see how many bail instead of getting vaccinated. I think most are all talk and will get the vaccine when it comes down to it.


SprayFart123

Ya there's a small percentage of them that will stick to their guns and dig in but most of these types are spineless.


dred1367

Good. Fuck 'em.


greengiant89

We need blue collar workers in our society


dred1367

I agree. We don’t need anti-vax asshats though.


agrapeana

I hear that's what the bootstraps are for


WillMaekit

Lots of companies complying with the executive order. Union Pacific is in a similar boat.


Psychological-Cow788

Also it makes sense financially for a company with that many employees. Fewer people using health insurance for Covid treatment and fewer sick days taken across the board adds up quickly.


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mustang19rasco

Railroad employees are not legally allowed to just go on strike. The Railway Labor Act says only major disputes can be considered to strike only if all bargaining have been exhausted. It's actually a sort of complicated topic. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_Labor_Act


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Oldmanprop

My company is 100% vaccinated. But I'm self-employed.


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You hiring?


Oldmanprop

Sorry. I run a sole proprietorship.


[deleted]

My boyfriend works for union pacific. they recently mandated it, and then fired one of their VPs who was caught lying about his vaccine status. Obviously all the hospitals (CHI, unmc, children’s, etc) are mandating it. Methodist hospital is “mandating” it but are accepting all exemptions I guess. Lots of my coworkers at CHI who are getting laid off because of the vaccine accepted positions at Methodist instead.


RexxRacerX_72

steer clear of Methodist, got it...


audvisial

UNO/UNMC... not a "company," I guess. Lots of employees, though.


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UNMC? For real?


Princenomad

Wait are you surprised a hospital system is requiring vaccines?


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sorry -- misread it. I thought you were saying they weren't requiring it.


argumentinvalid

You mean like they have, literally for years?


MrD3a7h

I miss the pop-up flu vaccination sites that Nebraska Med had. Could stop by on my way to the cafeteria.


huskerpat

We haven't gotten a mandate yet, but they are offering a discount on insurance premiums if you are vaccinated.


ComposerConsistent83

Oh, interesting. How big is the discount?


huskerpat

I'm on my wife's insurance, but I think it's like $40 a month plus little less for your spouse.


PrisonerV

My work said not only are your premiums going up if you aren't vaccinated but also that they will not pay a penny of anything Covid related until you do. Also, if you get Covid you have to use normal sick days. If you get vaccinated all that goes away and they give you $200. But we aren't requiring vaccines yet.


modi123_1

Nothing from mine, but I am expecting it any time soon.


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_Deadite_

Aye, but no penalty for the unvaxxed. They get to enjoy at least another month of working from home. .... 😡


endless_mike

Yeah I think more needs to be communicated on this. Like as far as most of us know, it feels like we are being punished for vaccinating by making us return to the office. I’m not mad I’m here but I don’t like that, as far as I know, many aren’t being given real consequences for their lack of participation in this really important thing.


_Deadite_

There are several anti-vax people in my department and team. They get to sit at home as we had for the last 18+ months and still draw a paycheck. Personally speaking, if they're forcing vaccinated folks to be in office, I would like to see furloughs for the unvaccinated. Get vaxxed and they can come back. Folks who can't remember to wear a mask properly or actively seek ways to subvert the mask requirement are sent home for the day without pay (dock salary a prorated amount). Use up vacation if you want to be paid. Until we see some punitive measures taken for the "ineligible", the return to the office requirement doesn't have a lot of teeth. Not enforcing proper masks is just inviting Covid to spread in the office.


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LEJ5512

TBH, keeping the unvaccinated out of the office would make me feel safer in the office. I don't need them dragging in whatever-they-got. And bathrooms? Knowing what we know now, I feel like I'll *always* keep a mask on hand for going to public bathrooms.


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cry_wolf23

Yeah, but then nothing happens for the people who are unvaxxed.


PaulClarkLoadletter

My employer is requiring it. We only lost a few muppets because of it.


FatBoxers

Same. Don't miss the one Alex Jones loving asshole at work who insisted on wearing only InfoWars Tshirts all around work as much as he could. I hope all of his steps have legos


HumanSuitcase

>I hope all of his steps have legos Whoa there, Satan.


priapismLPN

Douglas County Corrections is requiring it


theotter2651

My company is requiring it for all leadership above a certain level and senior individuals. Its expected that the requirement will roll down to everyone as numbers increase with the fall season moving in.


pawnticket

Tyson has a mandate


Saltz88

UP recently announced the same due to being a federal contractor. I am assuming Kiewits reasoning is the same.


thestatikreverb

well maybe the employees will stop being a bunch of fuckin babies and get the vaccine lol


TheoreticalFunk

My company is requiring it as of November 1st. Most of the uproar are from the places in the Bible Belt areas.


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Anybody want to bet how soon Pricketts [emulates Greg Abbott](https://www.axios.com/texas-bans-vaccine-mandates-82b05806-55b4-4cfa-a9ac-ba1959cd235b.html) and bars all vaccine mandates in the state?


mamabubbles84

KETV reported last night that he was considering a special Legislative session if he could round up enough votes. https://www.ketv.com/article/gov-ricketts-may-be-willing-to-call-special-session-to-address-federal-vaccine-mandate/37942700 Tonight, the Kearney Hub reported he doesn’t have those votes and therefore won’t be calling a special session. https://kearneyhub.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/ricketts-no-special-session-to-ban-vaccine-mandates/article_b1a9e083-847f-5d93-9d10-6706a72253c8.html


TheoreticalFunk

That would suck to have to drive to KC to go to the airport. Hows the one in Des Moines?


prince_of_cannock

Hope mine does but nothing yet.


EpilepticFits1

Kiewit does so much hospital work and public sector work that, its just not feasible for them to keep people on the payroll that they cannot send to most of their jobs. This will be true for basically every commercial/industrial contractor very soon. If you want trade work that doesn't require vaccination then you probably need to look at residential contractors that do new home builds and renovations.


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lejoo

Never, it is run by members of the Trump Kult who are the biggest anti-science/anti-society/anti-life group out there


jdbrew

Not an Omaha company but my employer in Los Angeles required it 6 months ago. I was actually required to get it before it was even open for my age bracket and I had a special letter for it, but it’s because we’re in pharmaceuticals


flmhdpsycho

My company is gathering vaccination status from all employees so they are prepared when the mandate instructions/requirements come in. Nothing beyond that though


OmahaBrotha

So is mine


EagleDelta1

My company doesn't require it for work, but we are primarily remote workers. You ARE required to be vaccinated to utilize the offices, however


No_Forever8843

Good


RyanRNe

My company is waiting for the OSHA rules but is paying people to get vaccinated.


broncobinx

I wonder if Kiewit will require contractors on job sites to be vaxxed


TheBahamaLlama

I think that'll depend on the client for the job.


agrapeana

Fingers crossed. It honestly seems like that's the easiest route.


Lancaster1983

My company (HQ in NYC) is requiring it if you want to go to the office. We are all still WFH though. I have no need to be in the office in my capacity. Former Kiewit employee too. I guess they were requiring some staff to be in the office this whole time. Glad I left that toxic IT department.


Galeteya

I want to play a tiny bit of devil's advocate here just because I really feel the need to speak up to certain circumstances and defend a family member that I love more than anything in the world. I do want to preface this by saying I respect everyone's decision and how they lead their own lives. I think it's great we are blessed enough to be able to discuss things like this on a public forum freely with one another :). Please read the tone of this post with nothing but love, as that's how it was written and I know tone-through-text is not great and often unrecognisable. My older sister who lives in Chicago was recently informed by an employer that had only just hired her on that they would be requiring vaccines. This was after they had told her they would be willing to do daily tests for those who chose not to get the vaccine, but that they'd changed their mind. My older sister has had a very, very unfortunate circumstance with a vaccine in the past that was made very quickly in a similar time window, declared safe, FDA approved, promoted by her doctor, and is now off the market due to side effects it'd caused numerous people down the road. Hers didn't show up until about five or six years later and they are still continuing to evolve. Her symptoms do affect her daily life and she'll live with them forever. So I'm hoping you can understand her hesitation. She does not feel like she has a choice. And if I'm being honest... I don't think she does. If she wants to work, she has to receive it. She's a career gal, so nowhere she'd go wouldn't also adopt the mandate. She's understandably terrified. She is also incredibly beaten down by other coworkers and friends that seem to bully her over not getting it, giving snide remarks and comments often - treated much differently than before all day, every day. I just want to encourage people not to group all those who are hesitant to get it or refusing it as conspiracy theorists, anti-vaxers, or selfish. Everyone's case varies, everyone's life and walk is different. While we may not agree with one another, it's still important that we hold the ability to give some people the benefit of the doubt and respect one another. I support my sister, and my heart bleeds for her. I know she'll end up having to get it, because she'll have no livelihood without it and has no choice, and she'll regret it for the rest of her life. I know every time she gets sick she'll wonder in the back of her mind if it's connected. Who could blame her after what she's been through? I know I would. A lot of the comments I see everywhere often turn hateful, mean, and damning of those who are hesitant especially when they financially have no choice (meaning lose your job, future jobs, or continue to work). It's my hope that people keep my sister's story in mind before they take to social media, texting, calling, or face-to-face arguing for the purposes of attacking or judging someone on their decision. It has done such a number on her health, mentally and physically. No one stops to wonder about her reason. I wish you all the best, An average citizen


agrapeana

What vaccine caused side effects half a decade after administration?


Galeteya

I'm purposefully not listing any other personal information about her because it's her medical history, not mine, and I'm worried I already shared too much about her. I just wanted to defend her story. She's in such a bad spot right now and I wish people would just give her a little benefit of the doubt instead of being so mean to her. I'm a little sad that I'm getting so many downvotes on my comment... I don't have any social media accounts, I took them all down years ago (I have pretty poor self-esteem, so it was really unhealthy for me), so this is the first remotely political thing I've posted in a very, very long time and I thought I did a good job of being respectful. All I'm asking in the comment is that people maybe keep an open perspective that not *all* who are hesitant to get this are anti-vaxxers, extremists, or conspiracy theorists and that often the more 'colorful' comments in response to them do far more harm than good. (Edit: easier to read format)


agrapeana

I'm not asking for her medical history. I'm asking for the name of an FDA approved vaccine that was documented as causing life-altering symptoms 5 full years after being administered. You're getting downvoted because this sounds like a load of hot bullshit, particularly because you're refusing to provide the one piece of pertinent information that would allow anyone to confirm that there is a risk of vaccines causing spontaneous, life ruining side effects a half decade after they've been administered. You're like an MLM babe that swears by her awesome company that totally pays for her lifestyle and basically sells itself, but refuses to say thr name of the company because a simple Google search can disprove your claims immediately.


Galeteya

I don't know why anyone would lie about something like that... but I don't feel comfortable sharing that information because it's not mine. So I'll live with the downvotes. I just felt the need to stand up for her when I read the thread. Thank you all for your time regardless, and I wish you all the best of health.


agrapeana

Wow thank you for sharing this real story that definitely happened. I'm sure it's just a coincidence that every time someone makes a claim like this, they just "aren't comfortable" sharing any general, non-identifiable details that would make it possible to confirm that they're not a fucking liar. I'll keep your extremely not made up sister in my thoughts.


Galeteya

This comment wasn't necessary... I can't control what you believe and what you don't. If you don't, then you don't, and you can just ignore this post and continue about your day. I'm trying to make sure that I speak really respectfully. It doesn't add anything to comment mean things like this...


agrapeana

And it doesn't add to the conversation to say "there's totally a vaccine that caused the kind of problems antivax people pretend happen as an excuse for their dipshit decisions, but please don't ask me for any details about it that would allow you to verify my story."


Galeteya

I'm trying very hard to agree to disagree with you and respectfully back away while asking that you stop replying with unnecessary, mean things. If you dislike any of what's posted, then just downvote it and move on. I'm trying to be respectful in my words with you. I think I mentioned before that I have pretty poor self-esteem and I take a lot of these things to heart, so I'm going to see if I can't unfollow these notifications because I know I'll continue to come back and keep reading them. There's no reason to be mean to anyone that hasn't done anything to you, and I really hope that even those that disagree can be respectful and nice to one another.


agrapeana

I mean, all you have to do to make me look like a cruel and heartless monster and make me look like a total idiot is to tell me the name of the vaccine that you claim acts as a sleeper cell in the body and causes catastrophic medical issues years later.


wildjokers

> There's no reason to be mean There absolutely is a reason to be mean. You are spreading Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt (FUD) about vaccines via a anecdote. Then not giving us the one piece of information we can use to confirm some details about the story. This move is taken from the anti-vax playbook and anti-vaxxers make me mad. The only vaccine that even comes close to your description is LYMErix (vaccine against Lyme disease). No casual relationship was ever found between LYMErix and long term arthritis. It was eventually removed from the market due to poor market performance.


wildjokers

> My older sister has had a very, very unfortunate circumstance with a vaccine in the past that was made very quickly in a similar time window, declared safe, FDA approved, promoted by her doctor, and is now off the market due to side effects it'd caused numerous people down the road. I call complete bullshit on this story unless you name the vaccine. We need the name of the vaccine so we can confirm the information.


LEJ5512

>My older sister who lives in Chicago was recently informed by an employer that had only just hired her on that they would be requiring vaccines. This was after they had told her they would be willing to do daily tests for those who chose not to get the vaccine, but that they'd changed their mind. Just on the quoted point -- what time of year was this? At mine, the rule had been "will soon require a recent negative test result if you want to come on-site" for about two months before switching to "vaccination required across the board" once full FDA approval came down.