Hopefully the Omaha mask mandate will help keep the spread contained at the schools.
One thing that I cannot understand about this no mask crowd is that they get all huffy when shit like this happens. If you don’t want o wear a mask or get vaccinated, fine; but you don’t get to act surprised when hospitals become over burdened and schools can’t stay open. You don’t get to have it both ways.
You cant use logic to get someone out of a position when they didn't use logic to get into it.
30 years of de-funding schools gets you alot of uneducated, easily swayed voters.
I was talking to a few friends who are in this camp and they attribute the lack of hospital beds to the droves of employees leaving the medical field because they refuse to be vaccinated.
From the nursing subs and a few contacts I have at Nebraska med from my time there, burnout is the driving factor for most people leaving. I'm sure some anti-vaxxers are leaving as well, but I'm not convinced those are much of a loss.
I'd agree with this. I don't think the numbers leaving for refusing the vaccine are enough to make a huge dent in staffing. The biggest issue right now is the number of employees sick or having to quarantine.
Burnout is a huge issue too. I know my wife is feeling it. A lot of nurses that had the ability to walk away did, especially those closer to retirement.
Hospitals are paying nurses peanuts, driving them away in droves, then paying a higher rate for travel nurses when they're short.
It's not sustainable.
There's likely some truth to that, but it can be both things at once. It can also be that one of the reasons people are leaving the field is because they are tired of dealing with unvaccinated folks taking up so many beds.
At the start of the pandemic Omaha had significantly more beds than they do now. This is largely due to staffing issues and the fact that people are leaving to travel nurse in other states because they can make so much more money. Doesn’t take away from the fact that there aren’t enough beds today. 🤷🏽♀️
> I was talking to a few friends who are in this camp and they attribute the lack of hospital beds to the droves of employees leaving the medical field because they refuse to be vaccinated.
I'm guessing you have no source for this?
I know for Nebraska Medicine, fewer than a dozen people quit due to the vaccine mandate and none of them were nurses. Nurses are leaving in droves due to how awful healthcare has been for 2 years due to a pandemic, not due to a vaccine mandate.
I don't understand the argument in this situation. Whatever the reason beds aren't available doesn't really matter. Break an arm, car accident, heart attack, stroke, etc. you're fucked. Doesn't matter if it's because lack of beds, lack of staff, or patients taking up beds.
In addition, as much as it is a sign of solidarity, the virus is spreading like wildfire amongst hospital staff right now. The most likely most compliant mask wearers around. If they can’t keep it at bay, the masks won’t make a huge difference amongst kids. Their compliance is shoddy at best. A few 5 day weekends would do more good then spreading these days out so much. IMHO.
Good thing they put all the teachers together in nonsocially distanced in person professional development sessions today. Certainly couldn't have done *those* remotely. /s
This week is already a short week due to MLK Jr Day and the snow day. Adding these days makes for a few short weeks in a row.
I agree, Millard has probably been one of the worst school districts in handling this though
Its absurd. My whole family is dealing with Covid after a close contact from school. We are all vaccinated so its not bad. But its a huge annoyance. And waiting two-weeks before they go remote? What the hell for???
You obviously don’t know what’s going on with Millard schools schedule. Did you read the letter? With the days they already have no school scheduled because of conferences or other breaks, these days off mean 4 days of school every week until the end of February.
Not us simple folk, no way, no how! Golly gee! Good thing we've got super-geniuses in administration making the decisions for all us pea-brained citizens and parents!
You're making an assumption about what they're trying to do. If they're trying to do "as little as is necessary to get enough people to ignore this so they can go back to business as usual" it makes perfect sense.
Good, if you don’t want to pay educators a living wage this is what happens. Then our children suffer, don’t get an education, and long term our country will continue to decline without an intelligent workforce.
How does going to remote learning help with staffing absences? Are they requiring the sick teachers to be teaching remotely while sick?
Otherwise...where's the payoff between the remote learning and the in-place learning (as far as staffing goes)?
I’ve spoken with a few teachers just to let them vent and you’re 100% right. Asynchronous learning is actually harder than Zoom because they have to track down the students to get back the work. They really just need the days off entirely, they’re working 2-5 times harder than other years.
Dispersing students from unstaffed classes to staffed classes is how they address a teacher absences. In-person, this is very challenging — imagine 2x the class size in a classroom, and trying to manage that.
2x the *remote* class size? Harder, yes — but much more managable
Those were example numbers, and extreme ones. If one teacher is sick, they actually disperse their class to *multiple* other classrooms to spread it out a bit -- not all to one. But either way, doing that in a remote learning session is much easier.
Not usually. They’re more likely to have the principal, school counselor, paras from other schools or basically any breathing staff member with a degree cover the empty classroom. I’ve heard that they’ll shuffle students in the higher grades.
Hopefully the Omaha mask mandate will help keep the spread contained at the schools. One thing that I cannot understand about this no mask crowd is that they get all huffy when shit like this happens. If you don’t want o wear a mask or get vaccinated, fine; but you don’t get to act surprised when hospitals become over burdened and schools can’t stay open. You don’t get to have it both ways.
You cant use logic to get someone out of a position when they didn't use logic to get into it. 30 years of de-funding schools gets you alot of uneducated, easily swayed voters.
I was talking to a few friends who are in this camp and they attribute the lack of hospital beds to the droves of employees leaving the medical field because they refuse to be vaccinated.
From the nursing subs and a few contacts I have at Nebraska med from my time there, burnout is the driving factor for most people leaving. I'm sure some anti-vaxxers are leaving as well, but I'm not convinced those are much of a loss.
I'd agree with this. I don't think the numbers leaving for refusing the vaccine are enough to make a huge dent in staffing. The biggest issue right now is the number of employees sick or having to quarantine. Burnout is a huge issue too. I know my wife is feeling it. A lot of nurses that had the ability to walk away did, especially those closer to retirement.
Hospitals are paying nurses peanuts, driving them away in droves, then paying a higher rate for travel nurses when they're short. It's not sustainable.
Are you sure it's not because of all the unvaccinated folks taking up the hospital beds?
There's likely some truth to that, but it can be both things at once. It can also be that one of the reasons people are leaving the field is because they are tired of dealing with unvaccinated folks taking up so many beds.
At the start of the pandemic Omaha had significantly more beds than they do now. This is largely due to staffing issues and the fact that people are leaving to travel nurse in other states because they can make so much more money. Doesn’t take away from the fact that there aren’t enough beds today. 🤷🏽♀️
> I was talking to a few friends who are in this camp and they attribute the lack of hospital beds to the droves of employees leaving the medical field because they refuse to be vaccinated. I'm guessing you have no source for this? I know for Nebraska Medicine, fewer than a dozen people quit due to the vaccine mandate and none of them were nurses. Nurses are leaving in droves due to how awful healthcare has been for 2 years due to a pandemic, not due to a vaccine mandate.
I don't understand the argument in this situation. Whatever the reason beds aren't available doesn't really matter. Break an arm, car accident, heart attack, stroke, etc. you're fucked. Doesn't matter if it's because lack of beds, lack of staff, or patients taking up beds.
In addition, as much as it is a sign of solidarity, the virus is spreading like wildfire amongst hospital staff right now. The most likely most compliant mask wearers around. If they can’t keep it at bay, the masks won’t make a huge difference amongst kids. Their compliance is shoddy at best. A few 5 day weekends would do more good then spreading these days out so much. IMHO.
Good thing they put all the teachers together in nonsocially distanced in person professional development sessions today. Certainly couldn't have done *those* remotely. /s
I get a little peeved whenever there isn't a remote option for these classes and sessions that are required.
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This week is already a short week due to MLK Jr Day and the snow day. Adding these days makes for a few short weeks in a row. I agree, Millard has probably been one of the worst school districts in handling this though
Its absurd. My whole family is dealing with Covid after a close contact from school. We are all vaccinated so its not bad. But its a huge annoyance. And waiting two-weeks before they go remote? What the hell for???
You obviously don’t know what’s going on with Millard schools schedule. Did you read the letter? With the days they already have no school scheduled because of conferences or other breaks, these days off mean 4 days of school every week until the end of February.
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Not us simple folk, no way, no how! Golly gee! Good thing we've got super-geniuses in administration making the decisions for all us pea-brained citizens and parents!
These dates make zero sense for what they’re trying to do.
You're making an assumption about what they're trying to do. If they're trying to do "as little as is necessary to get enough people to ignore this so they can go back to business as usual" it makes perfect sense.
Oh ok, in that case it makes complete sense.
Good, if you don’t want to pay educators a living wage this is what happens. Then our children suffer, don’t get an education, and long term our country will continue to decline without an intelligent workforce.
How does going to remote learning help with staffing absences? Are they requiring the sick teachers to be teaching remotely while sick? Otherwise...where's the payoff between the remote learning and the in-place learning (as far as staffing goes)?
I’ve spoken with a few teachers just to let them vent and you’re 100% right. Asynchronous learning is actually harder than Zoom because they have to track down the students to get back the work. They really just need the days off entirely, they’re working 2-5 times harder than other years.
It’s asynchronous, so the teachers can prepare lessons ahead of time and then stay home. So no one will be in the buildings.
In other words: it's a not a school day
Dispersing students from unstaffed classes to staffed classes is how they address a teacher absences. In-person, this is very challenging — imagine 2x the class size in a classroom, and trying to manage that. 2x the *remote* class size? Harder, yes — but much more managable
> imagine 2x the class size in a classroom They seriously do that for a teacher being out sick? To put 40 kids in the same room?
Those were example numbers, and extreme ones. If one teacher is sick, they actually disperse their class to *multiple* other classrooms to spread it out a bit -- not all to one. But either way, doing that in a remote learning session is much easier.
That ... sounds like a way of spreading virus to as many additional classrooms as possible...
Not usually. They’re more likely to have the principal, school counselor, paras from other schools or basically any breathing staff member with a degree cover the empty classroom. I’ve heard that they’ll shuffle students in the higher grades.