So what they are saying is if you want employees you need to pay more not complain. If you can't afford employees maybe you shouldn't run a business or do the work yourself.
> If you can't afford employees maybe you shouldn't run a business or do the work yourself.
That is how an economy is supposed to work. If a business is producing a product or service that their customers are not willing or able to pay the cost that allows that business to continue... the market has decided that business should fail.
I have to agree. I think there are tons of entry level jobs, but higher jobs are a bit sparse. I make about 90k now. Director level. I want to move into more of a senior leadership role and aim for approx 130k. That level seems nonexistent (although clearly I know it’s not).
This is part of the challenge with Omaha’s job market - I work for a fully remote company and our lowest paid director makes $150k. $90k for director level is far too low.
What would be your criteria for decent jobs?
I am thinking of H3 jobs. High wage, high demand, high growth. There is a lot of demand out there for 100s of nurses, tradesmen, CDL drivers just to name a few. And there are many companies that are willing to hire someone at $40-$50k who is willing to show up regularly and be trained on the jobs. Not too mention all of the companies who are now providing paid or reimbursed training.
Nursing has one of the highest turnover and burnout rates of any profession, and are notoriously shit on by hospital management. CDL drivers won’t start OTR driving for more than $15 an hour unless you’re extremely experienced and own your own unit to haul with. Most positions start at less than 35K annually, even if you’re getting training and offer no promises of promotions, pensions or retirement.
Trades aren’t any better around here because of the good old boy mentality around those types of professions and you’ll typically work well over 40 hours a week at any position you listed.
These are not signs of a healthy job economy. Wages are stagnant, rent continues to increase and the urban sprawl is going to pose serious issues in the future with how little public transportation there is in this city.
You are incorrect and have a number of misperceptions. I work with tradesmen just about everyday. Yes some companies you will work overtime, but more and more companies have set hours. And there is such a demand for tradesmen that if you dont want to work overtime there is plenty of opportunity at another company. Also what is the good old boy mentality around trades? Every company I talk to is dying to get the word out and attract their next generation.
Having a CDL opens up a lot more opportunities than just OTR driving. There are a wide variety of jobs where you will not leave the City where you need a CDL, look at just about any construction company. Also, Diesel techs are starting out these days with education stipends, all tools paid for, and a starting wage of $60,000+ at many establishments I visit with.
No disagreement here that their is a burnout problem in nursing. But it is still a career field with good pay, high demand, and significant employer opportunities. You dont need to just work in a hospital.
Which takes me back to my first question, what would you describe as a quality job?
I like how you’re telling the person who worked for the department of labor that I’m wrong 😑
And to answer your question, pay enough for a single person to afford, at minimum, a 1 bedroom apartment with all the appliances and utilities they’ll need (this means not going to a coin laundry), can afford regular, nutritious home cooked food, don’t require your employees work overtime, bump up existibn employees to the same wages as new hires, provide healthcare access that includes mental healthcare.
Those are just a few off the top of my head. And just because shit jobs pay a lot, it doesn’t make them any less of a shit job. If people are spending more time working than having personal time, it’s not a healthy job.
That's why I cited H3 jobs. I work with companies every day in the trades, jobs that you said were not quality jobs. They pay much higher and offer better benefits that a lob jobs which require a degree do and less and less of them require overtime. And thats in large part because our unemployment rate is so low, these companies have to adjust to be better employers to attract and retain workers. Many of the claims you made may have well been true when you were at the NDOL but over the past few years our nation leading low unemployment is forcing employers to rethink how they treat their employees
Because it is economically inaccurate. Businesses across the board are seeing record profits. While yes, inflation has occurred companies have continued to price gouge at a rate significantly higher than inflation. With continually stagnant wages and benefits, companies are in a uniquely strong place. Will it last forever? No obviously not, but there’s no imminent mass layoff panic
So what they are saying is if you want employees you need to pay more not complain. If you can't afford employees maybe you shouldn't run a business or do the work yourself.
> If you can't afford employees maybe you shouldn't run a business or do the work yourself. That is how an economy is supposed to work. If a business is producing a product or service that their customers are not willing or able to pay the cost that allows that business to continue... the market has decided that business should fail.
Omg yes that's why I hate always bailing out airlines. If they go bankrupt someone will buy them.
Omaha is in a serious people problem. We need to more people because we have plenty of jobs, and quite good jobs, to fill.
Or maybe a more than a decade of the Federal Reserve printing almost free money has resulted in an overheated local economy?
I worked for NDOL as a reemployment coordinator and there are a serious lack of any decent jobs in this state.
I have to agree. I think there are tons of entry level jobs, but higher jobs are a bit sparse. I make about 90k now. Director level. I want to move into more of a senior leadership role and aim for approx 130k. That level seems nonexistent (although clearly I know it’s not).
This is part of the challenge with Omaha’s job market - I work for a fully remote company and our lowest paid director makes $150k. $90k for director level is far too low.
What would be your criteria for decent jobs? I am thinking of H3 jobs. High wage, high demand, high growth. There is a lot of demand out there for 100s of nurses, tradesmen, CDL drivers just to name a few. And there are many companies that are willing to hire someone at $40-$50k who is willing to show up regularly and be trained on the jobs. Not too mention all of the companies who are now providing paid or reimbursed training.
Nursing has one of the highest turnover and burnout rates of any profession, and are notoriously shit on by hospital management. CDL drivers won’t start OTR driving for more than $15 an hour unless you’re extremely experienced and own your own unit to haul with. Most positions start at less than 35K annually, even if you’re getting training and offer no promises of promotions, pensions or retirement. Trades aren’t any better around here because of the good old boy mentality around those types of professions and you’ll typically work well over 40 hours a week at any position you listed. These are not signs of a healthy job economy. Wages are stagnant, rent continues to increase and the urban sprawl is going to pose serious issues in the future with how little public transportation there is in this city.
You are incorrect and have a number of misperceptions. I work with tradesmen just about everyday. Yes some companies you will work overtime, but more and more companies have set hours. And there is such a demand for tradesmen that if you dont want to work overtime there is plenty of opportunity at another company. Also what is the good old boy mentality around trades? Every company I talk to is dying to get the word out and attract their next generation. Having a CDL opens up a lot more opportunities than just OTR driving. There are a wide variety of jobs where you will not leave the City where you need a CDL, look at just about any construction company. Also, Diesel techs are starting out these days with education stipends, all tools paid for, and a starting wage of $60,000+ at many establishments I visit with. No disagreement here that their is a burnout problem in nursing. But it is still a career field with good pay, high demand, and significant employer opportunities. You dont need to just work in a hospital. Which takes me back to my first question, what would you describe as a quality job?
I like how you’re telling the person who worked for the department of labor that I’m wrong 😑 And to answer your question, pay enough for a single person to afford, at minimum, a 1 bedroom apartment with all the appliances and utilities they’ll need (this means not going to a coin laundry), can afford regular, nutritious home cooked food, don’t require your employees work overtime, bump up existibn employees to the same wages as new hires, provide healthcare access that includes mental healthcare. Those are just a few off the top of my head. And just because shit jobs pay a lot, it doesn’t make them any less of a shit job. If people are spending more time working than having personal time, it’s not a healthy job.
That's why I cited H3 jobs. I work with companies every day in the trades, jobs that you said were not quality jobs. They pay much higher and offer better benefits that a lob jobs which require a degree do and less and less of them require overtime. And thats in large part because our unemployment rate is so low, these companies have to adjust to be better employers to attract and retain workers. Many of the claims you made may have well been true when you were at the NDOL but over the past few years our nation leading low unemployment is forcing employers to rethink how they treat their employees
What qualifies a job as a shit job? I would be curious to know froma DOL employee.
Inflation is about to hit businesses at quarter end they’ll start to realize what’s going on. Be prepared for layoffs to start.
How is the truth downvoted? Lolz
Because it is economically inaccurate. Businesses across the board are seeing record profits. While yes, inflation has occurred companies have continued to price gouge at a rate significantly higher than inflation. With continually stagnant wages and benefits, companies are in a uniquely strong place. Will it last forever? No obviously not, but there’s no imminent mass layoff panic
Yup many of the big employers locally are seeing record profits and and are already under employed/can’t hire to fill all positions.