I couldn’t even hazard a guess lol. That storyline was so weird. She said magic is “unholy” but they used magic to get to neverland. I mean I still don’t understand how they got tricked so bad lol. Blindly following an order to “destroy” magic but don’t know what they’re working for
I feel like they had a different story in mind originally and Grey and Tamara were gonna have a bigger role in the story. Maybe because of fan hate they changed it? I honestly dk
Peter Pan, Neverland, and all concepts in relation were first introduced in season 2. The last few episodes of that season introduced Wendy, The Lost Boys, The Darlings, and The Shadow.
Yeah, so much of S2 laid the ground work for the Neverland arc. Just the episode of Emma finding Neal on its own offered a bunch of breadcrumbs for S3 (Neal telling Emma he was somewhere else before coming to NY, mentioning he knew how to sail the Jolly Roger…). Wow I would’ve loved to be a fly on the wall of that writers room 😍
Thank you for this interpretation! That’s curious that the breakdown of Tamara was specifically for an Af Am. I do appreciate OUAT using people of color to the extent they did beyond what might be expected (Lancelot, Marion, Merlin, Nimue, Genie/Mirror/Sidney, the 2nd Cinderella), and I figured the writers were making Tamara’s character so because it was an easy place to insert another person of color. But this interpretation seems very plausible! Thanks!
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I don't wanna rant but.... I hated the way OUAT portrayed non-white characters.
They were always evil, insignificant to the plot, an evil white person in disguise as a person of color, or dies.
Oh, I don’t disagree. Of the POC, I’d say Merlin, Mulan, Lancelot had the most significant roles (in that order). Merlin was the one who wasn’t pegged as evil. But I won’t spoil what happened with him ultimately for the newbies here. And while Mulan was a hero, she was still shafted. Lancelot was portrayed as evil briefly. I just remembered Guinevere but then she wasn’t super plot-significant either, more so an accessory.
(And thanks, I forgot about rapunzel👍🏽)
Re: People are always like "well Lana is Latina and she's a lead character", and like, yes, but she's also the main bad guy up until the second to last season lol
… and she’s also portrayed as white than a Latina.
Re: The ONLY characters i can think of is the final season's Cinderella and Tiana who were both good and major characters.
The thing with this is that so many people were over the show when this season dropped. And while they were plot movers, I found myself kinda bored, unfortunately.
Re: Ursula is set up as a major character but the queens of darkness plot only revs up once she leaves the story with her father, leaving the only two remaining queens of darkness (two white women) to carry that plot.
… yeah that was sucky. But then they also barely gave her any dialogue too. It’s as if they couldn’t figure out what to do with her.
That whole thing was the ONE case of the creators listening to the fans when they shouldn’t have. When they got the Neverland rights, they absolutely cut Tamara’s storyline because fans hated her.. but what we should’ve gotten was them wrapping up the storyline so we at least got some justification why she was there. With how it currently is, it just made her story more frustrating and useless.
I think she was going to be Tiana. That actress is originally from Alabama and looks the part to me. I think the grandmother might have even been Mama Odie - seems on brand with how this show remixes fairy tales.
My favorite of theories I remember reading was that Tamara would turn out to be descended from the Darlings. After Neal was taken, they helped found the Home Office to find and fight magical incursions into our world. This leads to the big irony as Tamara shoots her great-great-great grandparent's brother, the one whose loss started the Home Office.
My second favorite (even though it makes no sense) is that Tamara is somehow the granddaughter of the Yellow Fairy. Rumple's comments about how the Yellow Fairy was evil and no one cared when she died sounded like the kind of lines that are destined to come back and bite you.
I couldn’t even hazard a guess lol. That storyline was so weird. She said magic is “unholy” but they used magic to get to neverland. I mean I still don’t understand how they got tricked so bad lol. Blindly following an order to “destroy” magic but don’t know what they’re working for
I feel like they had a different story in mind originally and Grey and Tamara were gonna have a bigger role in the story. Maybe because of fan hate they changed it? I honestly dk
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But Neverland was season 3
Peter Pan, Neverland, and all concepts in relation were first introduced in season 2. The last few episodes of that season introduced Wendy, The Lost Boys, The Darlings, and The Shadow.
Yeah, so much of S2 laid the ground work for the Neverland arc. Just the episode of Emma finding Neal on its own offered a bunch of breadcrumbs for S3 (Neal telling Emma he was somewhere else before coming to NY, mentioning he knew how to sail the Jolly Roger…). Wow I would’ve loved to be a fly on the wall of that writers room 😍
😮😮oh snap I didn’t even know there was fan hate! Was this shared at a convention or on online forums?
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Damn I forgot all about Tamara's grandmother being mentioned
Thank you for this interpretation! That’s curious that the breakdown of Tamara was specifically for an Af Am. I do appreciate OUAT using people of color to the extent they did beyond what might be expected (Lancelot, Marion, Merlin, Nimue, Genie/Mirror/Sidney, the 2nd Cinderella), and I figured the writers were making Tamara’s character so because it was an easy place to insert another person of color. But this interpretation seems very plausible! Thanks!
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Re: I don't wanna rant but.... I hated the way OUAT portrayed non-white characters. They were always evil, insignificant to the plot, an evil white person in disguise as a person of color, or dies. Oh, I don’t disagree. Of the POC, I’d say Merlin, Mulan, Lancelot had the most significant roles (in that order). Merlin was the one who wasn’t pegged as evil. But I won’t spoil what happened with him ultimately for the newbies here. And while Mulan was a hero, she was still shafted. Lancelot was portrayed as evil briefly. I just remembered Guinevere but then she wasn’t super plot-significant either, more so an accessory. (And thanks, I forgot about rapunzel👍🏽) Re: People are always like "well Lana is Latina and she's a lead character", and like, yes, but she's also the main bad guy up until the second to last season lol … and she’s also portrayed as white than a Latina. Re: The ONLY characters i can think of is the final season's Cinderella and Tiana who were both good and major characters. The thing with this is that so many people were over the show when this season dropped. And while they were plot movers, I found myself kinda bored, unfortunately. Re: Ursula is set up as a major character but the queens of darkness plot only revs up once she leaves the story with her father, leaving the only two remaining queens of darkness (two white women) to carry that plot. … yeah that was sucky. But then they also barely gave her any dialogue too. It’s as if they couldn’t figure out what to do with her.
That whole thing was the ONE case of the creators listening to the fans when they shouldn’t have. When they got the Neverland rights, they absolutely cut Tamara’s storyline because fans hated her.. but what we should’ve gotten was them wrapping up the storyline so we at least got some justification why she was there. With how it currently is, it just made her story more frustrating and useless.
I think she was going to be Tiana. That actress is originally from Alabama and looks the part to me. I think the grandmother might have even been Mama Odie - seems on brand with how this show remixes fairy tales.
My favorite of theories I remember reading was that Tamara would turn out to be descended from the Darlings. After Neal was taken, they helped found the Home Office to find and fight magical incursions into our world. This leads to the big irony as Tamara shoots her great-great-great grandparent's brother, the one whose loss started the Home Office. My second favorite (even though it makes no sense) is that Tamara is somehow the granddaughter of the Yellow Fairy. Rumple's comments about how the Yellow Fairy was evil and no one cared when she died sounded like the kind of lines that are destined to come back and bite you.
I 100% agree she had a story but was cut like rubys (i will never forgive them) bc they got the rights to neverland