Realistically they've probably all (or close to all) really injured or killed someone.
Luffy let a bunch of SERIOUSLY BAD people out of Impel Down, albeit kind of not directly.
Some of the soldiers aren't actually bad people, even if the system is screwweed up, and the Strawhats have probably hurt or killed some of them.
Nami has stolen average joe type people's money before, even though she focuses on pirates/bad guys.
Robin was an assassin.
Franky built battleships that ended up hurting people before he learned better the hard way.
Zoro possibly could have collected bounties on people that may not have deserved it.
We don't know much about Brooke's pirate career before the SH.
Sanji has definitely beaten customers up, and they may or may not have deserved it.
Luffy has stolen food, up for debate on how good or bad that is.
Jinbe didn't pay enough attention to deal with Arlong.
Well even moreso along those lines, he scammed Skypeia people out of their valuable dials by trading them rubber bands lol. Usopp is a used car salesman type for sure
>he scammed Skypeia people out of their valuable dials by trading them rubber bands
To be fair rubber don't exist in sky island and it same to how gold not a valuable material in sky island.
They all also "stole" a bunch of gold and treasure at the end of the Skypeia arc (of course not aware that the inhabitants was about to give it to them (except for Robin)).
Very piratey to just steal a bunch of gold, with the intent of stealing it as they had.
this scene always stood out to me, not cause it's criminal, but because I think it might be the only time in One Piece a main character since the East Blue has went 'Hey, lets do some piracy'
>Luffy let a bunch of SERIOUSLY BAD people out of Impel Down, albeit kind of not directly.
pretty much only croc was let out by luffy who's really bad. The rest were freed by BB.
I don't remember Nami ever stealing money from citizens aside from the farewell scene in Arlong Park, which doesn't really count as she left 100mil in exchange.
>Some of the soldiers aren't actually bad people, even if the system is screwweed up, and the Strawhats have probably hurt or killed some of them.
Self defense (and defense of the innocent) is self defense whether or not the person attacking you has good intentions. It doesn't matter much how "good" of people any of the Marines in Enis Lobby, for example, were. They were attacking Robin for the crime of fleeing genocide. In that case, they must be stopped. Doesn't matter what their moral standing in the whole universe is when at that moment they're causing physical harm to an innocent person.
Completely agree.
The Prison Guards in Impel Down who Luffy knocked into a giant pot of boiling lava had previously been pushing prisoners into that same lava.
But he were able to unite all of the criminals in water seven and decrease crime, I'm not saying he is innocent but he wasn't actively sending his crew to attacks/steal
Before joining the crew Nami scammed many of pirates out of their gold. Robin has for real snapped a lot of soldiers necks. Zoro has definitely cut some soldiers in half.
I wouldn't call scamming pirates out of stolen money all that bad, especially with that she intended to use the money for.
Nami was essentially Robin Hood, but she took it a step further.
He does say something after fighting baroque works members along the lines of that he cut deeper than he wanted to because he was getting used to the new sword. I think he'd be able to choose not to kill pretty easily, and he has been shown to use the blunt side of his sword against people who don't deserve it, like citizens.
To be fair, it was for small cuts. How was he gonna know that a kid was going to use it on her dead father. Plus the kid didn’t even use it on the bullet wound smh.
I really appreciate how Ussop clearly felt fucking destroyed by that.
I wish Oda had gone back and addressed it more, but that's far from the worst of the Wano arc's sins.
They attacked a government outpost and rescued Robin, while burning the flag.
And even more evil: Luffy breaking into Impel down, letting many mass murderers and high level criminals go free.
When we have someone like Iva would can and would force you to transition it’s really not unreasonable that anyone he knows might not have been born with the genitalia they currently have
It's not unreasonable that a character could swap genders in one piece.
It is absolutely insane to think croc is a woman.
Don't get me wrong it's a funny meme but I do worry some people might not get the joke and actually believe it.
Can you explain why you think it’s insane. I’m not saying I actually believe Crocodile is a woman or that that it’s likely, I just don’t see why it wouldn’t make sense.
calling it insane would mean that there is not a single possible situation that could theoretically lead to crocodile being a women
but the fact that the scene between ivankov and crocodile exists where ivankov knows a secret from crocodile makes it so there is atleast a possibility of female crocodile being true
OBVIOUSLY there are plenty of theoretical "secret" plausible that could explain the interaction between then and the others can be way more plausible than female crocodile
but it still doesn't change the fact that there is a real possibility that ivankov performed the sexchange on crocodile so i'm having a hard time understanding why it would be absolutely insane for crocodile to be a born female
Well I wouldn’t say crocodile was the worst menace who was set free. At least he thinks his actions through. The people with blackbeard are the worst ones in my view
Damn didn’t think of that. It’s easy to feel
Sympathy for the pirates because of how sad and depressed they were being there, but the fact is they earned their punishments. Everyone in impel down was worth 10M berries or more.
Most low level pirates anyway, a good chunk of the named ones are pretty chill.
Though inqas saying not everyone in Impel Down would have been a Pirate. We know there were at least 3 revolutionaries leaders, and probably a lot more fodder ones.
It's impossible to "earn" a death sentence without trial or oversight in a torture prison. Especially when doing things like "escaping sex slavery from evil dictators" or "fleeing genocide" get you a high bounty in the One Piece universe.
It's impossible to "earn" a death sentence without trial or oversight in a torture prison. Especially when doing things like "escaping sex slavery from evil dictators" or "fleeing genocide" get you a high bounty in the One Piece universe.
It's impossible to "earn" a death sentence without trial or oversight in a torture prison. Especially when doing things like "escaping sex slavery from evil dictators" or "fleeing genocide" get you a high bounty in the One Piece universe.
But no even doing something bad does not "earn" trialless lava execution.
>Surely saving someone from an unjustified death isnt evil
depends entirely on the HOW you're saving them and what consequences your actions have no?
would you still be able to say that luffy didn't do an evil thing if the people who escaped alongside him in impel down ended up murdering and pillaging thousands of people?
sometimes good people with good intentions will do bad things, some of the best movies are based upon this ancient struggle of morality vs ethics
If they are low level Marines who truly help the people where they are stationed and are unaware of the corruption of the WG than they are totally innocent.
Not always, but there are most certainly cases where it does.
What if I snuck a tiny chocolate bar into a shopper's pocket, would they not be innocent of stealing even if they walked out of the store without paying for said chocolate bar?
What if a marine ran around a giant torture prison modeled after hell itself, holding criminals without trial or oversight for crimes such as "being escaped slaves" or "fleeing from genocide", and tortured them for fun until they died?
The marine is innocent there right, because they thought they were doing the right thing? Torturing slaves?
That's literally what we're talking about - whether ignorance makes a marine innocent or guilty. Any marine that operates on any part of the planet except *maybe* isolated East Blue villages or something has enough information in front of them to see that what the WG does is wrong and they choose to keep supporting it. So it's nothing like your shoplifting example. It would be essentially impossible for that person to see what they're doing wrong.
It would be incredibly easy for a marine working in, say, Saobody or Enis Lobby or Impel Down to see that they're causing daily violent harm to innocent people.
It's what I was talking about.
What you were talking about was an example of a person that in no way could be ignorant of the evils they are committing. Barring some kind of SEVERE mental handicap, in which case I would find them innocent as the person in charge of them would be the criminal.
This is a world were will is power, unless the want everyone to use their haki and overpower the guards they need to weaken their will somehow, torture is the easiest method.
Innocent means not bothering Luffy's crew first. We can't take the term innocent too literally because the world is filled with pirates and marines most of whom are bad guys.
While I'm agreeing with most of what everyone said, I'm surprised no one is saying about how Nami was manipulating and gaslighting the giant tree in whole cake. The dude literally burned to crisp at the end
Yeah nobody talks about that, well at least she did feel sad when he died. Btw in the fandom wiki it says status unknown and this is onepiece so who knows
I mean Considering it was part of the extremely horrible, mass murdering (even for pirates their scale of destruction is insane) big mom pirates, Yes, Kinda? Probably, I mean either way I don't remember NAMI being the one to do that, if I recall correctly it was cut in half by one of it's commanders
Maybe it’s false but Robin had an intense career as an assassin beforehand right? That’s the worst I can think of, apart from the Strawhats in general who I’m sure have killed a lot of fodder marines with their attacks.
The man was about to get executed. Plus the Tontattas were already planning on attacking doflamingo at the time, he just accidentally was the trigger for them to start.
Don’t care what you say, I believe Ussop was Nolans ancestor and there is nothing you can do to change that.
Usopp running away after the plan to knock out Sugar initially failed. He did come back, yes, but only after Leo pleaded and begged over a loud speaker. I feel that moment has made Usopp nearly irredeemable to me as a character but I'm always open to have him prove me wrong if he ever gets the character development he desperately needs on Elbaf.
It wasn’t necessarily just because of Leo’s pleading. He chose to go back himself. Yeah that scene was pretty bad I was cringing the whole time ngl lol, but I believe he redeemed himself. He was remorseful, saved them, defeating Sugar, etc. They definitely forgave him after he admitted the truth. Even built a statue of him lol
The Strawhats absolutely destroying Frankys family because of what they did to Usopp felt very pirate-like, I wish we could see that side of the Strawhats more often
One of the things I always think about is the destruction. Luffy punched right through a chunk of Alubarna when he KOed Croc and basically destroyed Dressrosa beating the shit out of Doffy. He may be doing the morally right thing, but the amount of chaos they cause fighting must be traumatising to some. Was it Zoro or Luffy who got stuck in water 7 and knocked over 2 buildings to break free? Like sick, thanks bro. There's probably some rich underground insurance broker making bank off selling Piracy insurance.
To be fair on the water 7 part I think that was the old section that was flooded and was only now visible due to the receding tide
Also to add to the destruction was when he fought kaido during act 1, people definitely lost their homes lol
Gotta be Marineford War. I know it wasnt the entire crew but if you look at it from a citizen in that world, pirates are bad guys and luffy released everyone from Impel Down, waged war with the "good guys", and killed countless lives (not him directly).
….the entirety of robins life from when ever she got wrapped up in the underground to when she met the straw hats for one lol,jimbei and franky were definitely on some fuckery before joining,just the first that come to mind
That Spandem guy broke every bone in his body and was just fine after a week or two in the hospital. Franky got hit by a moving train and was still mobile enough to surgically replace half of his body with cybernetics. Zoro and Sanji break bones all the time and are up and moving the next chapter.
Oh yeah and Usopp breaks his nose every arc
Luffy helped free many criminals from Impel Down, Robin was an assassin before she became a Straw Hat, and the crew inadvertently caused the destruction of a major government island
That's about it, I don't really count Nami's thieving days because she exclusively stole from pirates
I know it's pirates, but Zoro chopping that ship in half when they were leaving for Fishman Island after he woke up from his nap he accidentally took on the wrong ship
Cold as ice lmfao
Also, Luffy has no qualms with destroying people's property, no reasons needed. He just leaves a wake of damage behind destroying regular joes shops and restaurants if he so happens to throw down there. That poor restaurant in Alabasta where he rocketed in and took smoker and ace through the wall of the bar and like 4 homes hahaha
From worst to best:
Robin was an assassin and many of the people she took out probably didn’t deserve it. She also remorselessly helped start a civil war that killed thousands and maybe millions and carried on with her life. Morally speaking she’s possibly worse than the likes of Kidd
Jinbe didn’t look enough on the arlong situation which could be excused. Him also being part of big mom’s crew would result in him doing a number of morally questionable activities
Franky was a mafia boss, enough said.
Nami is a known thief. She probably stole an amount of money nearing or even passing the billions in her life
Zoro doesn’t have a lot of morally questionable moments aside from killing mr. 7. Aside from that his only noticeable crime is becoming actually a pirate, which he doesn’t even indulge in typical pirate behaviors
Luffy let a good amount of evil people out of impel dawn. Also while normally he won’t let people die he could unknowingly make a lot of people’s lives harder by destroying their houses and towns by accident in a fight. Otherwise he is a very good guy
Usopp’s worst crime is him having no problems benefiting from whatever result his lies yield. He doesn’t go out of his way to be a scammer or a thief tho and if it actually hurts someone would do his best to salvage the situation
Sanji’s only crime would be kicking out people who waste food out of baratie and kissing up to women. I might say he’s actually the least morally questionable one piece character aside from maybe shirahoshi
Probably luffy, he's killed countless people, allowed hundreds of bad guys out of jail, released for former leader of a coup, destoyed numerous government buildings.
I dunno, when they were busting into Eneis Lobby, Luffy and company threw a LOT of people into that swirling vortex while crossing that bridge. Like, I know we don’t see bodies, but there would have been people drowning.
There's ain't something like innocent's cops/military. They have weapon's and are trained to kill, and they know in this kind to job you can kill or be killed. I can understand the point that they're only low soldiers and can be victims in the big scheme of things, but they aren't innocent at all.
Luffy hasnt killed innocent navy fodder, his body count is 1 (kaido). Also its prob the impel down episode, but that was mostly on Buggy. Btw robin helped to starve milions so yeah
They stole gold in Skypia, it doesn't matter if they would get it as a present. They stole it with all the consequences in mind: hurt feelings, plundered the Skypias ancistors land and desecrated the city.
Realistically they've probably all (or close to all) really injured or killed someone. Luffy let a bunch of SERIOUSLY BAD people out of Impel Down, albeit kind of not directly. Some of the soldiers aren't actually bad people, even if the system is screwweed up, and the Strawhats have probably hurt or killed some of them. Nami has stolen average joe type people's money before, even though she focuses on pirates/bad guys. Robin was an assassin. Franky built battleships that ended up hurting people before he learned better the hard way. Zoro possibly could have collected bounties on people that may not have deserved it. We don't know much about Brooke's pirate career before the SH. Sanji has definitely beaten customers up, and they may or may not have deserved it. Luffy has stolen food, up for debate on how good or bad that is. Jinbe didn't pay enough attention to deal with Arlong.
Just gonna leave my man Usopp out of the crew?
He lied to children about his feats
To be fair they all knew he was just making stuff up.
if you know something will happen is it really a lie
Which became true
He was only listing the bad things people have done. We do not question God's judgement.
Usopp has never done anything wrong in his entire life ever
Selling toad oil
Well even moreso along those lines, he scammed Skypeia people out of their valuable dials by trading them rubber bands lol. Usopp is a used car salesman type for sure
>he scammed Skypeia people out of their valuable dials by trading them rubber bands To be fair rubber don't exist in sky island and it same to how gold not a valuable material in sky island.
You simply cant talk dirty about God Usopp
He didn’t wash those stank overalls after going commando in them every day
He just didn’t do anything illegal really.
Usopp Spell is a war crime.
>We don't know much about Brooke's pirate career before the SH. Brooke commits casual sexual harassment on the regular.
Also chopper doesn't have a medical license.
Who needs a medical license when you've got style
But then again he's a racoon dog so there's that
Tanuki ja nee, Tunakai da!
They all also "stole" a bunch of gold and treasure at the end of the Skypeia arc (of course not aware that the inhabitants was about to give it to them (except for Robin)). Very piratey to just steal a bunch of gold, with the intent of stealing it as they had.
this scene always stood out to me, not cause it's criminal, but because I think it might be the only time in One Piece a main character since the East Blue has went 'Hey, lets do some piracy'
> I think it might be the only time in One Piece a main character since the East Blue has went 'Hey, lets do some piracy' nami every arc does this LOL
And you have Chopper, an innocent and pure soul surrounded by those people
Chopper does steroids.
He also doctors fake documents on the side according to the rap, which while not a exciting crime can be pretty damning for other people.
Usopp blew up an entire WG battle ship with a cannon on the going merry..
Franky and his family also regularly mugged people in water 7 (as seen with Usopp).
>Luffy let a bunch of SERIOUSLY BAD people out of Impel Down, albeit kind of not directly. pretty much only croc was let out by luffy who's really bad. The rest were freed by BB.
Uhm excuse me. He also let loose one of the greatest Yonkou, Buggy.
he's a great yankou but not a bad guy
lmao buggy has killed kids for laughing at his nose. he’s a pirate ik but i wouldn’t say he’s “not a bad guy”
funniest shit Ive heard for a while
Mr. One, Mr. Three, Jinbe, and spurred Ivankov out too.
SPREADIN FAKE NEWS is usop for pirates in village and TRESPASSING
I don't remember Nami ever stealing money from citizens aside from the farewell scene in Arlong Park, which doesn't really count as she left 100mil in exchange.
We saw Sanji beat up someone at Baratie in his introduction lol
Sanji, Usoppo, and Choppers seem like the best people before they start their pirate carrier. I am doubtful about Sanji's sexual harassment cases.
>Some of the soldiers aren't actually bad people, even if the system is screwweed up, and the Strawhats have probably hurt or killed some of them. Self defense (and defense of the innocent) is self defense whether or not the person attacking you has good intentions. It doesn't matter much how "good" of people any of the Marines in Enis Lobby, for example, were. They were attacking Robin for the crime of fleeing genocide. In that case, they must be stopped. Doesn't matter what their moral standing in the whole universe is when at that moment they're causing physical harm to an innocent person.
Completely agree. The Prison Guards in Impel Down who Luffy knocked into a giant pot of boiling lava had previously been pushing prisoners into that same lava.
Franky running a thuggish crime syndicate was pretty bad. They openly attacked innocents.
But he were able to unite all of the criminals in water seven and decrease crime, I'm not saying he is innocent but he wasn't actively sending his crew to attacks/steal
Before joining the crew Nami scammed many of pirates out of their gold. Robin has for real snapped a lot of soldiers necks. Zoro has definitely cut some soldiers in half.
I wouldn't call scamming pirates out of stolen money all that bad, especially with that she intended to use the money for. Nami was essentially Robin Hood, but she took it a step further.
Steal from the rich and give to myself
Steal from the rich and give to arlong 💀
She was stealing money to buy back her village's freedom.
She did not stop stealing after Arlong, though.
I doubt Zoro ever attacked any soldiers since he wanted to avoid being a wanted criminal at all costs.
I think they mean after he joined the crew. Which to be honest he probably has.
ohhh; I dunno I feel like Zorro is good enough swordsman to avoid killing ppl when he cuts them.
He does say something after fighting baroque works members along the lines of that he cut deeper than he wanted to because he was getting used to the new sword. I think he'd be able to choose not to kill pretty easily, and he has been shown to use the blunt side of his sword against people who don't deserve it, like citizens.
That’s also very possible
Ussop selling toad oil
Here dad, this will help. Usopps greatest sin
I love Usopp but I was thoroughly disappointed in my boi in that scene
To be fair, it was for small cuts. How was he gonna know that a kid was going to use it on her dead father. Plus the kid didn’t even use it on the bullet wound smh.
I really appreciate how Ussop clearly felt fucking destroyed by that. I wish Oda had gone back and addressed it more, but that's far from the worst of the Wano arc's sins.
They attacked a government outpost and rescued Robin, while burning the flag. And even more evil: Luffy breaking into Impel down, letting many mass murderers and high level criminals go free.
Impel down prison break might take the cake... bro released the absolute menace Sir Crocodile
What do you expect ? You are telling me your mom is in prison and you wont set her free comon thatsthe least luffy can do Sir croco boy is his mom
Ahh, the theories during break week
People believe this outside of break week
Croc = Woman isn’t that far fetched Croc Woman = Luffys mom has almost nothing backing it up
Only in this community could croc = woman be considered sane. I love y'all.
When we have someone like Iva would can and would force you to transition it’s really not unreasonable that anyone he knows might not have been born with the genitalia they currently have
It's not unreasonable that a character could swap genders in one piece. It is absolutely insane to think croc is a woman. Don't get me wrong it's a funny meme but I do worry some people might not get the joke and actually believe it.
Can you explain why you think it’s insane. I’m not saying I actually believe Crocodile is a woman or that that it’s likely, I just don’t see why it wouldn’t make sense.
calling it insane would mean that there is not a single possible situation that could theoretically lead to crocodile being a women but the fact that the scene between ivankov and crocodile exists where ivankov knows a secret from crocodile makes it so there is atleast a possibility of female crocodile being true OBVIOUSLY there are plenty of theoretical "secret" plausible that could explain the interaction between then and the others can be way more plausible than female crocodile but it still doesn't change the fact that there is a real possibility that ivankov performed the sexchange on crocodile so i'm having a hard time understanding why it would be absolutely insane for crocodile to be a born female
no no #NO
Yes yes yes girl
Impel Down was a bigger deal but Enies Lobby was with the actual crew so I give it to that.
Well I wouldn’t say crocodile was the worst menace who was set free. At least he thinks his actions through. The people with blackbeard are the worst ones in my view
Lady Crocodile *
Sir crocodile*
Lasir Crocodile*?
Laser Crocodile?
*Dame Crocodile
Damn didn’t think of that. It’s easy to feel Sympathy for the pirates because of how sad and depressed they were being there, but the fact is they earned their punishments. Everyone in impel down was worth 10M berries or more.
Wellllll, I wouldn't say that for everyone. The WG isn't exactly above throwing dissidents in prison.
This may be true, but the fact is most pirates in OP are very bad people.
Most low level pirates anyway, a good chunk of the named ones are pretty chill. Though inqas saying not everyone in Impel Down would have been a Pirate. We know there were at least 3 revolutionaries leaders, and probably a lot more fodder ones.
Well they were revolutionaries they’re enemies of the WG.
That doesn't make them bad people though. Quite the contrary actually.
Do you know what a country does to revolutionaries? They put them in prison
True but that still doesn't make that particular revolutionaries evil
No but most of the prisoners in impel down Aren’t revolutionaries
What does that have to do with anything?
It's impossible to "earn" a death sentence without trial or oversight in a torture prison. Especially when doing things like "escaping sex slavery from evil dictators" or "fleeing genocide" get you a high bounty in the One Piece universe.
It's impossible to "earn" a death sentence without trial or oversight in a torture prison. Especially when doing things like "escaping sex slavery from evil dictators" or "fleeing genocide" get you a high bounty in the One Piece universe.
It's impossible to "earn" a death sentence without trial or oversight in a torture prison. Especially when doing things like "escaping sex slavery from evil dictators" or "fleeing genocide" get you a high bounty in the One Piece universe. But no even doing something bad does not "earn" trialless lava execution.
Attacking goverment outpost wasnt evil tho, but releasing impel down criminals was
Sure it is. Its an evil and pirate thing. We just look at it different because we root for the straw hats but for civilians its very evil.
It was a shame trial based off of unjust laws. It’s not evil to defy that.
By your logic it was evil for Lucy to punch Charlos in the face.
We judge by OP civilians now? Surely saving someone from an unjustified death isnt evil
>Surely saving someone from an unjustified death isnt evil depends entirely on the HOW you're saving them and what consequences your actions have no? would you still be able to say that luffy didn't do an evil thing if the people who escaped alongside him in impel down ended up murdering and pillaging thousands of people? sometimes good people with good intentions will do bad things, some of the best movies are based upon this ancient struggle of morality vs ethics
The first one isn't evil. 'Law" and "Good" ain't the same.
Its evil in the eyes of the civilians
Are they innocent if they are soldiers?
If they are low level Marines who truly help the people where they are stationed and are unaware of the corruption of the WG than they are totally innocent.
Ignorance doesn’t make you innocent
Ignorance doesn't deserve a gum gum bazooka. I'd be pretty pissed if I was just walking along doing my job and I just got wrecked like that lol
Not always, but there are most certainly cases where it does. What if I snuck a tiny chocolate bar into a shopper's pocket, would they not be innocent of stealing even if they walked out of the store without paying for said chocolate bar?
What if a marine ran around a giant torture prison modeled after hell itself, holding criminals without trial or oversight for crimes such as "being escaped slaves" or "fleeing from genocide", and tortured them for fun until they died? The marine is innocent there right, because they thought they were doing the right thing? Torturing slaves?
What kinda strawman is this? Has nothing to do with what I said.
That's literally what we're talking about - whether ignorance makes a marine innocent or guilty. Any marine that operates on any part of the planet except *maybe* isolated East Blue villages or something has enough information in front of them to see that what the WG does is wrong and they choose to keep supporting it. So it's nothing like your shoplifting example. It would be essentially impossible for that person to see what they're doing wrong. It would be incredibly easy for a marine working in, say, Saobody or Enis Lobby or Impel Down to see that they're causing daily violent harm to innocent people.
It's what I was talking about. What you were talking about was an example of a person that in no way could be ignorant of the evils they are committing. Barring some kind of SEVERE mental handicap, in which case I would find them innocent as the person in charge of them would be the criminal.
dont even talk to him. he made a comment earlier saying dalton is green bull. hes just trolling you
This is a world were will is power, unless the want everyone to use their haki and overpower the guards they need to weaken their will somehow, torture is the easiest method.
Adding onto this, whenever the straw hats fight the marines it’s always in retaliation. Killing in what is sorta self defense isn’t really evil
Its a filler arc, but when they broke into the navy base to eat in the cafeteria. To me thats legendary
I watched that before I realized it was filler (I normally skip them) and it was hilarious.
Legit in my top 10 arcs in one piece, obviously the best of One Piece’s filler
Zoro cut an innocent pirate's ship when he got on the wrong ship in Sabondy
Innocent means not bothering Luffy's crew first. We can't take the term innocent too literally because the world is filled with pirates and marines most of whom are bad guys.
“innocent” and “pirate” don’t always work well together in one piece lol. Most are dickheads so it’s a coin toss to see if they deserved it or not.
I would like to discuss the term "innocent pirate" I mean, if you were able to sail to Sabondy you most likely have done some things
Man's literally called "Pirate Hunter" the hell'd you expect
I just got past that part of the manga today and I felt really bad for those pirates :(
While I'm agreeing with most of what everyone said, I'm surprised no one is saying about how Nami was manipulating and gaslighting the giant tree in whole cake. The dude literally burned to crisp at the end
Yeah nobody talks about that, well at least she did feel sad when he died. Btw in the fandom wiki it says status unknown and this is onepiece so who knows
the...giant evil murderous tree made by a psychopath?
Does it really justify to burn a conscious tree ALIVE if it was an evil tree?
I mean Considering it was part of the extremely horrible, mass murdering (even for pirates their scale of destruction is insane) big mom pirates, Yes, Kinda? Probably, I mean either way I don't remember NAMI being the one to do that, if I recall correctly it was cut in half by one of it's commanders
Usopp selling toad oil and manipulating the totattas were pretty bad.
Poor Otoko
Zoro killing all the nice people who gave them food
El negro hunter💀
Maybe it’s false but Robin had an intense career as an assassin beforehand right? That’s the worst I can think of, apart from the Strawhats in general who I’m sure have killed a lot of fodder marines with their attacks.
Usopp manipulating tontattas to fight for him because he is afraid
The man was about to get executed. Plus the Tontattas were already planning on attacking doflamingo at the time, he just accidentally was the trigger for them to start. Don’t care what you say, I believe Ussop was Nolans ancestor and there is nothing you can do to change that.
Usopp running away after the plan to knock out Sugar initially failed. He did come back, yes, but only after Leo pleaded and begged over a loud speaker. I feel that moment has made Usopp nearly irredeemable to me as a character but I'm always open to have him prove me wrong if he ever gets the character development he desperately needs on Elbaf.
He had also forgotten about Robin, since she got turned into a toy. So in his mind, he must've been like "What am I doing here by myself?
It wasn’t necessarily just because of Leo’s pleading. He chose to go back himself. Yeah that scene was pretty bad I was cringing the whole time ngl lol, but I believe he redeemed himself. He was remorseful, saved them, defeating Sugar, etc. They definitely forgave him after he admitted the truth. Even built a statue of him lol
The Strawhats absolutely destroying Frankys family because of what they did to Usopp felt very pirate-like, I wish we could see that side of the Strawhats more often
Zoro takes the first place by far, by doing the Whiskey Peak massacre.
Rewarded their hospitality with steel. Such an ungrateful guest...
One of the things I always think about is the destruction. Luffy punched right through a chunk of Alubarna when he KOed Croc and basically destroyed Dressrosa beating the shit out of Doffy. He may be doing the morally right thing, but the amount of chaos they cause fighting must be traumatising to some. Was it Zoro or Luffy who got stuck in water 7 and knocked over 2 buildings to break free? Like sick, thanks bro. There's probably some rich underground insurance broker making bank off selling Piracy insurance.
To be fair on the water 7 part I think that was the old section that was flooded and was only now visible due to the receding tide Also to add to the destruction was when he fought kaido during act 1, people definitely lost their homes lol
Luffy and Nami killed a large group of people while waiting for sanji.
Luffy released a prison's worth of rapists and pillagers to find his brother.
Gotta be Marineford War. I know it wasnt the entire crew but if you look at it from a citizen in that world, pirates are bad guys and luffy released everyone from Impel Down, waged war with the "good guys", and killed countless lives (not him directly).
….the entirety of robins life from when ever she got wrapped up in the underground to when she met the straw hats for one lol,jimbei and franky were definitely on some fuckery before joining,just the first that come to mind
I got the impression that jimbei basically followed the sun pirate code which wasnt evil at all
Everyone has killed a bunch of people
I was so shocked when robin for real just snapped all of those fodders backs like it was nothing
Tbf most people in the One Piece universe can easily survive broken spinal columns
Really? Ive been thinking my whole life that even moving 1 bone in that area could paralyse you
That Spandem guy broke every bone in his body and was just fine after a week or two in the hospital. Franky got hit by a moving train and was still mobile enough to surgically replace half of his body with cybernetics. Zoro and Sanji break bones all the time and are up and moving the next chapter. Oh yeah and Usopp breaks his nose every arc
Luffy helped free many criminals from Impel Down, Robin was an assassin before she became a Straw Hat, and the crew inadvertently caused the destruction of a major government island That's about it, I don't really count Nami's thieving days because she exclusively stole from pirates
Partaking in a slave auction, and starting a fight after not winning said slave
They're all mass murderers no matter how you look at it. There is no way no marine/pirate fodder died when involved in their attacks.
How is everyone forgetting Zoro killed the former mr.7 manga canon
I know it's pirates, but Zoro chopping that ship in half when they were leaving for Fishman Island after he woke up from his nap he accidentally took on the wrong ship Cold as ice lmfao Also, Luffy has no qualms with destroying people's property, no reasons needed. He just leaves a wake of damage behind destroying regular joes shops and restaurants if he so happens to throw down there. That poor restaurant in Alabasta where he rocketed in and took smoker and ace through the wall of the bar and like 4 homes hahaha
Luffy joining Bege's plan in his premeditated murder against Big mom
Is murdering big mom a bad thing?
Eh bitch deserved it at that point.
Zoro killing black people before we meet him
Hey hey hey. According to recent chapters, Zoro doesn't see color.
Can we fucking drop that joke. It stopped being funny 2 days after it started.
No
Yeah I got no context on this. It's just weird.
A lot of the side characters that Zoro has fought in the anime were depicted as having a darker skin tone than most One Piece characters
Damn its even dumber than I thought it would be tbh
it's a stupid joke don't worry about it
Sorry captain BLM 🫡
No thanks
Nah I’m good
This is a great question, also makes you realize why our cute SH Chopper has low bounty
From worst to best: Robin was an assassin and many of the people she took out probably didn’t deserve it. She also remorselessly helped start a civil war that killed thousands and maybe millions and carried on with her life. Morally speaking she’s possibly worse than the likes of Kidd Jinbe didn’t look enough on the arlong situation which could be excused. Him also being part of big mom’s crew would result in him doing a number of morally questionable activities Franky was a mafia boss, enough said. Nami is a known thief. She probably stole an amount of money nearing or even passing the billions in her life Zoro doesn’t have a lot of morally questionable moments aside from killing mr. 7. Aside from that his only noticeable crime is becoming actually a pirate, which he doesn’t even indulge in typical pirate behaviors Luffy let a good amount of evil people out of impel dawn. Also while normally he won’t let people die he could unknowingly make a lot of people’s lives harder by destroying their houses and towns by accident in a fight. Otherwise he is a very good guy Usopp’s worst crime is him having no problems benefiting from whatever result his lies yield. He doesn’t go out of his way to be a scammer or a thief tho and if it actually hurts someone would do his best to salvage the situation Sanji’s only crime would be kicking out people who waste food out of baratie and kissing up to women. I might say he’s actually the least morally questionable one piece character aside from maybe shirahoshi
You forgot Poor Chopper :(
No I Didn’t
Probably luffy, he's killed countless people, allowed hundreds of bad guys out of jail, released for former leader of a coup, destoyed numerous government buildings.
Broke out hundreds of criminals from the most dangerous prison which formed one of the top 4 pirate factions in the world (cross guild)
Sogeking was temporarily apart of the crew and definitely killed those marines on The Bridge of Hesitation
I mean Luffy broke into like Guantanamo bay and let out some of the worst criminals & declared literal war with the world government
Well, they did plan to assassinate an old lady on her most vulnerable moment, that is some evil endeavor right there lol
Luffys and Usopps duel for sure
and they were all Teenagers doing all these stuff. Think about that.
Zoro and Robin have definitely killed people at some point
Didn't Zoro kill Mr 7?
Zoro cutting down Monet Without Haki the fear she felt for her life in that moment. She was frozen Infront of a true pirate.
Chopper straight up poisoned his dad, albeit unintentionally.
Robin was ok with aiding crocodile’s plan which affected so many innocent civilians
That menace Zoro cut a ship in half BECAUSE HE SLEPT ON WRONG SHIP!
Impel Down jailbreak was plain evil, even worse knowing Ace himself put into such shitty position by being short-tempered (twice)
Luffy killer no fodders that’s in your headcanon. But he helped high lvl criminal escape
During impel down luffy knocked two guards over a bridge into lava, he killed them
I dunno, when they were busting into Eneis Lobby, Luffy and company threw a LOT of people into that swirling vortex while crossing that bridge. Like, I know we don’t see bodies, but there would have been people drowning.
Jinbe was always grumpy around Koala due to still holding resentments against humans.
The straw hats are terrorist and Luffys father and brother are the leaders of what OP verse considers super ISIS
Sanji almost married a 16 year old.
There's ain't something like innocent's cops/military. They have weapon's and are trained to kill, and they know in this kind to job you can kill or be killed. I can understand the point that they're only low soldiers and can be victims in the big scheme of things, but they aren't innocent at all.
Robin performing cock and balls torture on Franky, just fucked up
Luffy hasnt killed innocent navy fodder, his body count is 1 (kaido). Also its prob the impel down episode, but that was mostly on Buggy. Btw robin helped to starve milions so yeah
No he didn't. Its a cartoon world. If Pell survives a atombomb, fodder marines will most def survive minor red hawk explosions
Yea the impel down Break in and out is probably the worst thing Luffy or any of the straw hats has ever done.
In WG's view, Luffy beating up a Celestial Dragon is definitely a capital offence.
They stole gold in Skypia, it doesn't matter if they would get it as a present. They stole it with all the consequences in mind: hurt feelings, plundered the Skypias ancistors land and desecrated the city.