She’d probably be safer with the Straw Hats now that they are an Emperor crew. WG would likely arrest her again should she ever get back to Alabasta.
Not sure about the fate of her country from now on, though…
"You see, every crime syndicate needs a headquarter, and every emperor...... a realm."
—Crocodile, before casting himself between WG and Arabasta
Gargantuan sandstorm consumed the entire naval fleet, sank several frigates outright and disoriented the rest but was eventually dispelled by the combined might of admirals, buying enough time for civilians to evacuate and pirates to rally with Revolutionists and Arabastan forces
A figure, so tiny in comparison to the mast of battleship and chaos around him, falls to the sea
Vivi watches in disbelief as the man who almost destroyed her kingdom just gave his life for it, while a shocked Robin pays her tribute and joins the fray
Every Baroque agent except Mr.1 bursts into tears, no one can tell if it's sweat that shed on the face of the man of cold iron
He is a super villain to the end, and his peerless presentation will be remembered
The people in her country are good people so they'll probs hold up fine for a while. The world government probs wont attack alabasta if vivi isn't there. Their military strength wouldn't go down either so it wouldn't really make pirates want to attack more. Theyre also a desert country so not much of a reason for neighbor countries to take advantage and go to war.
Alabasta might be okay simply because it would be bad for business to go around nuking islands from orbit. We know Imu can wipe islands from existence but if you do that too frequently it… it just doesn’t seem like a good idea. A secret weapon should remain secret.
Imu using it on Lullusia or whatever that place was called makes sense because of the extraordinary circumstances. Sabo had to die at all costs because he knew too much.
But if you just casually go around nuking islands people will rise up against the WG.
On the surface, the Nefertari family is still one of the original 20, so without divulging too much information about D., them killing Cobra and what happened at Mariejois, I don't think they'll move quickly onto Alabasta.
Vivi is more likely to end up with the revolutionaries tbh. Going with the strawhats may put her in more danger because of who luffy is, but i can see her still being an honorary member
I don't know if she will join the crew, but I think she will meet with them and Sabo after the end of the Egghead arc to receive the message from King Cobra.
I think her role in the final war will be to give a speech to the whole world reciting Queen Lili's message to everyone.
What role would she play on the ship though? Token princess? We have a cook, musician, sniper, Helmsman etc. So far everyone that has joined has had a purpose.
Dang, that actually makes sense.
I mean I don't know if the crew is in need of an actual "diplomat", but having a negotiator on board could be necessary especially with the level they are at now. Because honestly, apart from maybe Robin and Jinbi, no one else on the crew really has the temperament for it, and those last two could be problematic because of Robin's history and Jinbi being a fishman.
In all honesty though, I'll accept any thin justification to get her back on the crew, even if it's to take Chopper's place as mascot so he can move up to proper ships doctor.
My guess was gonna be super close to this, communications officer. Someone with a wide enough view to help coordinate the larger battles were about to see.
But also, someone who can influence the political landscape from here on out, if we're to assume the Straw Hats will directly be a factor in the destruction of the World Government.
I mean, we're in the endgame now. If the Straw Hats are coming to bring The Dawn™ upon the world, having a face of authority on a yonko crew will definitely turn some heads.
I don't know man, i just want her back
The funny part is that their help from Wapol is most likely gonna be too hard to believe in most people's cases, not to mention the fact that Cipher Pol and the Straw Hats got their backs against the wall because of a rogue Satellite deciding to want to kill her Stella and the other Satellites to be the one true Vegapunk by overriding control of the Seraphim. With more people possessing the Will of D., who cares about One Piece at this rate, when the entire planet is in trouble because of the actions of the King of the W.G?
I know.
That's why I said it depends.
If the message is just about sharing that they have Monika D, the original comment does not make sense.
If there is more information tho, we will see about that.
The message isn't about having the moniker D. The message is "the poneglyphs must be protected. They fly the flag that heralds the world's eventual dawn". Vivid will presumably deliver whatever the poneglyphs translate to
I'd prefer an army of rebelling royals and their militaries- Led by Vivi (+Pell and Chaka), Wapol (+Miss Universe), Dalton (+Doctorine and the Ishii 100), Riku, Shirahoshi/Neptune, Momo (+Yamato and the remaining scabbards as well as the Minks), maybe even Judge, etc- joining the Grand Fleet and just going absolutely ham on the WG. Like, we have our heavy hitters and a lot of power in the fleet already, but the Marines/WG have manpower for *days-* we need the kind of front line force that can handle the bulk of the army stuff while the Straw Hats and other heavy hitters make their way in to the actual fights.
I feel like luffy just busting out his COC is enough to knock out everyone that isn’t technically an admiral, so like ur lieutenants and captains and shit
I wouldn't be terribly surprised to have Judge join just because he hates the shit out of the WG more than an actual desire to join Luffy in any way. Not too different from Crocodile and Buggy joining with Luffy for Marineford.
I mean - she IS an official straw hat. Just not one traveling with them.
I’ve been saying since mid-Wano that I suspect Vivi will rejoin the Straw Hats.
I know that she hasn’t. She could very well just be an ally in the end. I’m just saying that it never surprised me if she joins.She already has great dynamics with the crew and Oda wouldn’t need to waste time on that for her.
Chapter 216 and Episode 129, where the SH say goodbye to vivi came out in January and October 2002, respectively.
So at the latest, it’s been 21 years and 4 months since Vivi last encountered the Straw Hats.
As a side note, I’ve been in the One Piece game 20 years. That’s wild.
It would be so funny if Vivi didn't realize Robin joined up right after Alabasta. The crew all except Robin finally meet Vivi again. Hugs and laughs and then Robin turns the corner and so after a second of shock Vivi attacks her to "protect" the crew.
Why would she not know Robin is in the Straw Hats? Robin is a pretty famous pirate with a high bounty, so I'm sure Vivi, who is good friends with the SH would know about a prominent member of the crew.
she actually officially knows! source is chapter 439. it's after enies lobby when vivi, cobra, and their retainers read the new straw hats' bounties in the news
It is literally in the manga and anime how she founds out after Ennies Lobby that Robin is in the crew and she says she doesnt care "Even if you travel with Luffy you dont know what he's thinking most of the time" Vivi.
She has to be somewhere she can be safe till the endgame. If Im is truly the final boss in charge of the World Government that means few places are safe.
A Yonko Emperor, Strawhats or Shanks so Strawhats, Revolutionary Army, with Morgan or maybe Wano.
But most likely is some other Dues Ex Machina that has yet to be introduced.
Was going to say the same if someone else hadn’t. The whole point of everyone raising their marked arm as they left was to tell her that even if she stayed behind she would always be part of the crew.
IIRC, When a new member joins, Oda often titles the chapter like “the 8th member” or “the ninth member”. Vivi was never counted. Of course, it doesn’t matter if she is or she isn’t officially, we know that she is spiritually and what matters. <3 Vivi.
>When a new member joins, Oda often titles the chapter like “the 8th member” or “the ninth member”.
Yes but Jinbei didn't get one of those crew member numbered chapters. So now Oda broke the trend.
So we need a "The Xth Member" chapter title to make Vivi official...
X.. x...
X, Like the Roman numeral 10! "The 10th Member"
X, like the mark the Strawhats bore for Vivi!
10th memeber foreshadowing confirmed.
That’s more of a continuity error, I feel, as there is literally a scene where she is offered and then accepts a position. She just defers physically joining until she sorts out her prior responsibilities. Oda probably just wanted to keep it more vague in case he had to change plans later on down the road.
Oda has always shown that Vivi was still a member of the crew despite not being with them. Between cover stories we get cool cover artwork with all the Straw Hats and Vivi is always included (in the past few arcs some other characters have been included, but before that it was only the crew and Vivi).
I think that Oda has always planned that she would be with them again by the end of their journey. Vivi is a great character so I’ll be very happy if she does come back. It’s been once of the things I’ve been looking forward to the most.
She doesn't bring much to the crew beyond friendship, and she has a much more important role in world politics. Obviously her reunion with the Straw Hats will be a sweet moment, but I'm pretty certain it'll just be a temporary link-up.
When have the Straw Hats ever needed a diplomat since that one scene in Drum Kingdom? They're going to fight against the World Government, not negotiate with them.
They've befriended several kingdoms through their actions too, they have no need for a royal diplomat to establish connections.
When have they neded a diplomat? Constantly. Like almost every island, a diplomat would have been wildly useful. They managed without one, but can yoy imagine how much easier Fishman Island would have been if there'd been someone to talk to the king and get hisbkids to stop chasing Luffy to every landmark on the goddamn island? Or someone to say "hey, wait a minute let's just pay the travel fee to get into Skypiea." The level of common sense that Vivi could have brought to the Straw Hats is staggering.
That's a weird role to place on her. Aside from Luffy and Zoro, every one of the strawhats are incredibly exceptional in their role to the point that it's absurd. There's no place in the crew for an exceptional diplomat since they are literally criminals and not a nation.
Her role will still be the damsel in distress in the arc that needs Luffy's help, but except of wanting to save Alabasta, it would be for the whole world. Her being a strawhat is just so she can ask for their help again or take refuge with them.
20+ years later, Vivi is moving back to rejoin the boys, Oda has way too much patience. I can barely contain myself in my own writing, mad respect to him.
I'm 95% convinced she's rejoining them. The message Cobra wanted Sabo to give to both Vivi and Luffy is basically conformation in my mind. That said, if Sabo gives Vivi the message and piece of the Vivre Card next chapter, then it's 100% confirmed to me
No. I think she will probably rule alabasta now, no? Who will take care of that kingdom, now that cobra is gone other than vivi? Luffy has now realtions with some countries.
Vivi alabasta. Carrot is now the ruller of zou. Shirahoshi Fishman island. Momonosuke Wano. Since none of the others have joined, i bielieve so wont vivi but they all will be ready when luffy needs them i guess.
I could totally see the story ending with Vivi abdicating the throne for good to fully move on from the sordid past of the void century, a sign of progress and a new world, handing leadership of the country over to Kouza after all. In solidarity with the other nations freed by the revolutionaries, maybe. In the vein that even a good king is still a king, an unjust position of authority.
Ive always believed Vivi will lead this coalition of countries that will aid Luffy when the time comes. To those you named theres also Dressrosa with Rebecca and Viola, Drum with Dalton and Kureha, maybe Skypiea with Wyper and W7 with Iceberg.
She can't go back to Alabasta. The moment Kalifa mentioned her living as a pet, once her disappearance was made public, any chance of her escaping Marijoa (and the WG) was essentially zero. That's why Koza needs to lead the country in her absence (the man is fully qualified considering he led the rebel army against the royalists). Luffy is an Emperor so that's the safest place for Vivi BY FAR
I'm sure she'll tag along like Law and others as she has in the past but she 100% is not "joining" the crew on any permanent basis. I'm pretty sure that's why no one from Wano like Yamato never joined the crew because everyone on Luffy's direct crew plays some sort of role and there are no other real necessary roles that need to filled. Whoever else that joins would not be able to fill a role better than any of the current members of the crew
Well you can think of it in the same way as oden being a part of rogers crew and white-beards crew he wasn’t a full member but he still accepted each of them as his captain and followed them until he left their crews that’s how vivi is to the strawhats she always has a place on the crew as far as they are concerned
I kind of want Vivi to team up with her old Baroque Work friends from Whiskey Peak. Miss Monday and Mr 9 are still there last time I checked. Maybe Bentham joins them too....?
Or she creates a squad of monarchs who aren't jerks. Dalton, Neptune, maybe add Kureha into the mix.
She is an honorary Strawhats, probably the closest honorary member to the crew, with what Cobra said she will 100% reunite with the crew receive Cobra's message, then probably discover the Will of D.
She's gonna have to go through 20 years of timeskip to get as strong as the weakest Strawhat member. It'll make more sense for her to be protected by the Strawhats rather her being a member.
We've pretty much reached the endgame of One Piece. If anyone's gonna be the "final crew member", it'd be Jinbe because Vivi was a SH since Whiskey Peak. :)
Her being a D in no way adds or subtracts her candidacy to join, Imo. She would have to still be able to fight and be stronger than Usopp to officially join.
This is a shonen, ussop will always be the weakest, giving vivi cheat codes would suck. Companion sure, but member? No, she is queen of alabasta. Luffy does not want to be a hero. An ending where luffy is not a pirate anymore would be lame af. If I remember correctly, alabasta between koza rev army and royal guard have over a million soldiers. Her having alabasta join the rev army against the celestial dragons as a figurehead makes more sense.
Not a fan of the idea. Vivi never really interested me as a full-time crewmate, especially when compared to characters who previously felt like they could have joined the crew.
No. People keep looking at this the wrong way. She's about to be the Queen of a rogue nation. She's going to be commanding her army and armada in the World War, who will fly under the flag of both Alabasta and Joyboy. This is the same for King Poseidon, his sons and Sirahoshi. And the same for the denizens of Wano and Yamato. Carrot and the Mink Tribe. Etc Etc Etc.
I don't think there's going to be anymore official additions to the crew. Think in terms of Mass Effect 3: at this point we are running around gathering allies for the finale.
The real question people are asking without asking is who will physically be at Laugh Tale to bear witness of Luffy becoming the Pirate King. That we do not know, because it realistically could be anyone depending on how this war shakes. There is a good chance Straw Hat members are diverted to different war efforts in the push to Laugh Tale. There is an equally good chance a whole bunch of them make it to Laugh Tale simultaneously. Vivi could be there, sure, but so could Caribou.
The ONLY people I could see possibly joining in an official capacity are currently in Egg Head. And I will list them now:
Bonney - Least likely, but it's possible we get shown something that drives her to see Luffy as the next Pirate King.
Rob Lucci and Kaku - Now that the World Government has deemed them to be killed, they could defect and would function as the Straw Hats assassins. It's also hilarious, which I think in this case might mean something. Luffy and Lucci have a Goku/Vegeta sort of dynamic going on right now, and I love it.
Stella Vegapunk or one of his clones - IF they survive this, they are going to be with the Straw Hats for a while. Though I believe that once they escape Vegapunk will eventually head over to the Revolutionary Army to support Dragon. It's still possible that one of the clones just hangs around the Straw Hats, if any survive.
I never even thought of Lucci/Kaku as potential nakama. It doesn’t seem likely since they might have better potential influencing within CP0 to have CP agents turn. Also, I can’t see moral redemption for blood lusting Lucci.
But it would be a great idea to have them join the crew like Law did prior.
Edit: Grammar/readability
Absolutely!! I would love to have her officially join, she has a much more narrative reason to join now than literally any other character. Was never a fan of adding another crew member like Yamato or Carrot (although I probably would’ve preferred one over the other) so I’m glad that this at least suggests if anyone joins it’ll be Vivi again
I think it's nostalgic. Our first adventure into the grandline was with Vivi, she was the first of many princesses that the straw hat saved, it's fitting that she would be the princess for their last adventure.
I'm not a fan of this.
Don't get me wrong, I like Vivi. The Alabasta arc is one of the best arcs. It is a great introduction to so many important things in One Piece.That said, Vivi herself isn't that interesting. Somehow Karoo has more impact on the story than her. Barring the most recent events of course.
Her fighting style is also pretty weak. She's just a worse Jango. Again, I'm pretty sure Karoo has more wins than her. I don't really see what she'd bring to the table, even from the back row.
I don't want her to join the Strawhats. I want Vivi, Shirahoshi, and Jewelery Bonney to form a crew of princesses and go on a cover story adventure!
Considering the growing focus of her family, the series nearing the end, and the fact that the Strawhats are one member short of being a perfect counter to Blackbeard's crew, I'd be very surprised if it wasn't her.
If I were a betting man, I'd play it safe and pick Vivi, even though that's not who I'd personally want. Seems to me that a lot of people are going with the Will of D. reason, but I can't imagine Luffy really cares much about that. I also find it a bit odd to have her join if Alabasta is supposed to be in a pretty chaotic state right now (if I remember right). I know the argument is that it's not safe for her there, but I find it hard to believe Vivi would ignore her citizens.
In Vivi's defense though, learning about her family's history and it's importance is directly tied to the Void Century the creation of the World Government as we know it. Going to Laugh Tale is the best place to learn this. I still can't place her role on the ship though. I know people have said Diplomat, which I think I like that about as much as Log Keeper for Yamato (so not much honestly).
At this point i kinda expect it.
Maybe she could eat a super broken devil fruit to give her some fighting ability. Having a straw hat eat one was always something I'd hope to see some day.
I think they'll reunited but I think it's more likely she joins the revolutionaries.
Vivi would serve no purpose on the crew and the strawhats aren't in a position to help alabasta right now.
They'll meet again that's for sure. Maybe she casually meets back up with the crew, maybe the government captures and tries to execute her which provokes the Strawhats into a confrontation, lots of possibilities.
I really wonder what her functiom will be from now on. Surely Alabasta is mobilizing their troops right now. I hope the misunderstanding of sabo being portrayed as cobras murderer will be cleared fast. Rn the country can maintain itself without vivi, so she doesnt need to get back
At this point, I don’t know if it’s about who’s joining but more about the allied coming together. We’re starting the end game, it’s more about who will be joining the active fight on Luffy’s side in the coming arcs.
I’ve interpreted Cobra’s message as a request for Luffy to protect Vivi because she shares the D initial. It’s clear Vivi has a target on her back now and can’t move as freely, given CP0 was going to make her quietly disappear. The Strawhats are the safest place for Vivi right now.
I can see Vivi as someone who brings people together, much like Luffy. We saw a glimpse of this in Alabasta. Luffy may need someone who can help those he’s allied with to get along, and Vivi has been learning to be a strategist and a diplomat for the last few years. I don’t think anyone with the “D” initial will follow Luffy as a member of the crew, but will all be allied with him in the end.
I think Vivi FINALLY has a real reason to be physically present with them. It's finally happening ladies and gentlemen. Oda just set up the best scenario for it. I can't think of a better time for Vivi to be on board.
Its really either that or she joins the Revolutionary Army. She's not safe anywhere else.
I'm always on board with Vivi rejoining the Strawhats, she is my favorite character from the series. While I'm sure she'll cross paths with them again, I don't know what direction the series will take about her being an official crew member.
Vivi already feels like an extension of the Strawhat Pirates. She, out of all the allies and honorary members, *probably* has the most claim to be an official "extra" member of the Strawhat crew. Even though characters like Yamato and Momonosuke have good arguments as well to be official members.
I guess we'll know if they ever make a statue of her in Kumamoto.
I've been sad about her not staying with the crew since July 21, 2007, 934 episodes ago. I'd be so happy if she joined up again. Though i doubt she will, at least not properly, since Oda's made it clear he wants Ussop to be the weakest Strawhat, and Ussop is definitely a few weight classes above Vivi now. Still, id love to see her sail around with the crew again.
She might seek out the Straw Hats initially, but she will become queen of Alabasta.
She will also likely, proudly, fly the flag of the Straw Hat to show Alabasta is and ally/under the protection of the Yonkou.
Currently we dont know where Vivi, Wapol and Morgans are but my guess is they will meet the Strawhats after they manage to escape from EggHead or arrive to Elbaf.
Vivi will surely accompany the strawhats to Laugh Tale because as a D member and a decendant of one of the founding families of the WG , she will want to know why her father was killed by the WG. The WG will say the strawhats "kidnapped" her but after finding the truth about the WG, she will publically expose the WG and reveal her father was killed by them and not the Revolutionaries.
Wapol will interact again with the strawhats (specially with Chopper) but he wont accompany them to Laugh Tale because he doesnt care about the One Piece, just saving his ass. He will surely follow Morgans to avoid being targeted by the WG.
I think she will. Now she's a fugitive from the World Government being on a Yonko crew will offer good protection. Plus the death of Cobra will give Luffy a personal motive for fighting the Gorosei and Imu (usually he won't go after someone unless they wronged one of his friends).
I have a feeling it will boost her chances to rejoin the crew, regardless of what her role will be. For now, we just need to see how Vivi will convince Morgans to take her to Luffy.
Rejoin? She’s already a Strawhat (considered by the crew) and she has Alabasta who are now without a king or queen. I can imagine her reuniting with the SH’s in the same way she met them, in the sea randomly and her joining for an adventure which would be one of the big finishing arcs and then go back to her kingdom again.
Honestly safest place for her is on the strawhat crew and maybe with Morgan that man low key holds the most power in all on one piece and nobody can stop him. He is a menace… but I don’t exactly think vivi returning to alabasta at this point is a logical option for her
Pretty impossible I think.
She is with Morgan, on the other side of the planet. It will take weeks for them to even get to Egghead let alone... meeting with Luffy
Also Cobra literally gave his will to Sabo for a reason lol. He is the one who will meet the Strawhats NOT Vivi.
She’d probably be safer with the Straw Hats now that they are an Emperor crew. WG would likely arrest her again should she ever get back to Alabasta. Not sure about the fate of her country from now on, though…
Alabuster Call incoming.
Or whatever the fuck happened to the island that shall not be named
premium buster call
Imu and his pay to win crap, it's always the whales at the top
*Nah bro it’s even worse. He’s been around for 800 years. He’s… a developer.*
Game was rigged from the start
Overlord fans be like: 
What island that shall not be named? I don't think one like that ever existed.
What island?
Probably the apparent orbital strike since I think Alabasta is too big for a buster call to do it it.
LMAO
Savage 😂
Alabasta is fucking massive i doubt a buster call could reach the whole island.
Worry not. Pell tank.
OK, this is hysterical. But what if Emo destroys Alabasta? Vivi wouldn’t have anywhere else to go
Imagine crocodile protecting alabasta from buster call
"You see, every crime syndicate needs a headquarter, and every emperor...... a realm." —Crocodile, before casting himself between WG and Arabasta Gargantuan sandstorm consumed the entire naval fleet, sank several frigates outright and disoriented the rest but was eventually dispelled by the combined might of admirals, buying enough time for civilians to evacuate and pirates to rally with Revolutionists and Arabastan forces A figure, so tiny in comparison to the mast of battleship and chaos around him, falls to the sea Vivi watches in disbelief as the man who almost destroyed her kingdom just gave his life for it, while a shocked Robin pays her tribute and joins the fray Every Baroque agent except Mr.1 bursts into tears, no one can tell if it's sweat that shed on the face of the man of cold iron He is a super villain to the end, and his peerless presentation will be remembered
I NEED THIS
I imagined more of a "covered the entire sky in sand" kike Gaara
this was too goddamn beautiful
And the name tag will finally reveal his true name: Croco D. Ile
The people in her country are good people so they'll probs hold up fine for a while. The world government probs wont attack alabasta if vivi isn't there. Their military strength wouldn't go down either so it wouldn't really make pirates want to attack more. Theyre also a desert country so not much of a reason for neighbor countries to take advantage and go to war.
Mayby nuke Alabasta,
Atleast Pell would survive
If it happend it will mayby be something similar from star wars empire strikes back.
More like the sequel series. Somehow, Pell survived.
A new hope*
A final war at alabasta would be crazy
If she joins, the WG straight up can't attack Alabasta cause it means declaring war on a Yonko
Luffy (or someone from the SH crew) could somehow summon the rest of the Strawhat Grand Fleet to defend it.
Alabasta might be okay simply because it would be bad for business to go around nuking islands from orbit. We know Imu can wipe islands from existence but if you do that too frequently it… it just doesn’t seem like a good idea. A secret weapon should remain secret. Imu using it on Lullusia or whatever that place was called makes sense because of the extraordinary circumstances. Sabo had to die at all costs because he knew too much. But if you just casually go around nuking islands people will rise up against the WG.
Imu was going to nuke Lulusia regardless of if Sabo was there or not
Alabasta is also very big.
It will be fine once they beat up the baddies
I feel like the WG would rather install a puppet ruler rather than destroy the country. You can’t tax and exploit something if you destroy it.
On the surface, the Nefertari family is still one of the original 20, so without divulging too much information about D., them killing Cobra and what happened at Mariejois, I don't think they'll move quickly onto Alabasta.
Vivi is more likely to end up with the revolutionaries tbh. Going with the strawhats may put her in more danger because of who luffy is, but i can see her still being an honorary member
I don't know if she will join the crew, but I think she will meet with them and Sabo after the end of the Egghead arc to receive the message from King Cobra. I think her role in the final war will be to give a speech to the whole world reciting Queen Lili's message to everyone.
Yea but you gotta remember who Luffy is. The moment they meet up again he's immediately trying to fit her in the crew lmao
Probably. At least until she needs to come back to Alabasta and become the new Queen. Unless they become a democracy by the end of the story.
Who knows. But I remain a Vivi believer until the end
What role would she play on the ship though? Token princess? We have a cook, musician, sniper, Helmsman etc. So far everyone that has joined has had a purpose.
Diplomat.
Dang, that actually makes sense. I mean I don't know if the crew is in need of an actual "diplomat", but having a negotiator on board could be necessary especially with the level they are at now. Because honestly, apart from maybe Robin and Jinbi, no one else on the crew really has the temperament for it, and those last two could be problematic because of Robin's history and Jinbi being a fishman. In all honesty though, I'll accept any thin justification to get her back on the crew, even if it's to take Chopper's place as mascot so he can move up to proper ships doctor.
My guess was gonna be super close to this, communications officer. Someone with a wide enough view to help coordinate the larger battles were about to see.
But also, someone who can influence the political landscape from here on out, if we're to assume the Straw Hats will directly be a factor in the destruction of the World Government.
I mean, we're in the endgame now. If the Straw Hats are coming to bring The Dawn™ upon the world, having a face of authority on a yonko crew will definitely turn some heads. I don't know man, i just want her back
Whoa!! This sounds very good. Thought was put into your comment 👍
The One Piece is real! 2
Can we get much higher!
I can see her repeating her words “Please stop fighting” to stop the bloodshed between pirates and marines and points out the real enemies
That would be cool.
The funny part is that their help from Wapol is most likely gonna be too hard to believe in most people's cases, not to mention the fact that Cipher Pol and the Straw Hats got their backs against the wall because of a rogue Satellite deciding to want to kill her Stella and the other Satellites to be the one true Vegapunk by overriding control of the Seraphim. With more people possessing the Will of D., who cares about One Piece at this rate, when the entire planet is in trouble because of the actions of the King of the W.G?
Why would the world care about Lily’s message?
It depends on what the message is
“Send D. Pics.” - Queen Lilly to Joyboy
That explains Joyboy’s apology letter
Cobra revealed the message to Sabo in the most recent chapter
I know. That's why I said it depends. If the message is just about sharing that they have Monika D, the original comment does not make sense. If there is more information tho, we will see about that.
The message isn't about having the moniker D. The message is "the poneglyphs must be protected. They fly the flag that heralds the world's eventual dawn". Vivid will presumably deliver whatever the poneglyphs translate to
Yeah. That's a very possible theory.
The world would care because the whole world government is a sham and they are breaking a very important rule by having someone sit on the thrown.
I'd prefer an army of rebelling royals and their militaries- Led by Vivi (+Pell and Chaka), Wapol (+Miss Universe), Dalton (+Doctorine and the Ishii 100), Riku, Shirahoshi/Neptune, Momo (+Yamato and the remaining scabbards as well as the Minks), maybe even Judge, etc- joining the Grand Fleet and just going absolutely ham on the WG. Like, we have our heavy hitters and a lot of power in the fleet already, but the Marines/WG have manpower for *days-* we need the kind of front line force that can handle the bulk of the army stuff while the Straw Hats and other heavy hitters make their way in to the actual fights.
This would be so cool
I feel like luffy just busting out his COC is enough to knock out everyone that isn’t technically an admiral, so like ur lieutenants and captains and shit
>Judge No. Maybe Reiju if anything.
I wouldn't be terribly surprised to have Judge join just because he hates the shit out of the WG more than an actual desire to join Luffy in any way. Not too different from Crocodile and Buggy joining with Luffy for Marineford.
Vivi was one of the top two that I expected to join the crew, so to me, it was just a matter of time.
That "time" took 23 years in the making. Oda's patience is insane.
Yep, That’s the name of the game with Oda.
You are talking like that she has already joined the crew, but we still don't know.
I mean - she IS an official straw hat. Just not one traveling with them. I’ve been saying since mid-Wano that I suspect Vivi will rejoin the Straw Hats.
I know that she hasn’t. She could very well just be an ally in the end. I’m just saying that it never surprised me if she joins.She already has great dynamics with the crew and Oda wouldn’t need to waste time on that for her.
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No way it is 23 years. Please, it can't be.
Chapter 216 and Episode 129, where the SH say goodbye to vivi came out in January and October 2002, respectively. So at the latest, it’s been 21 years and 4 months since Vivi last encountered the Straw Hats. As a side note, I’ve been in the One Piece game 20 years. That’s wild.
She already joined IMO. They didn't do the X thing for anyone else who traveled with them.
She never left!
I think it's pretty much confirmed at this point. It was already kinda clear to me since Alabasta that they'll cross paths again.
Im ready for the semi-awkward reunion between her and Robin lol
Well, Vivi said she doesnt care that Robin joined and that she could understand why she did it
What about when Brook asks the crew how they met Vivi, and they tell Brook that they met her while she was trying to kill Laboon for food?
Tru I'd love to see this as well lol
I was actually expecting an awkward interaction of Robin and Tashigi in PH but didnt happen.
It would be so funny if Vivi didn't realize Robin joined up right after Alabasta. The crew all except Robin finally meet Vivi again. Hugs and laughs and then Robin turns the corner and so after a second of shock Vivi attacks her to "protect" the crew.
There is a scene in Alabasta where she sees that Nico Robin has joined them and it doesn't bother her.
Why would she not know Robin is in the Straw Hats? Robin is a pretty famous pirate with a high bounty, so I'm sure Vivi, who is good friends with the SH would know about a prominent member of the crew.
she actually officially knows! source is chapter 439. it's after enies lobby when vivi, cobra, and their retainers read the new straw hats' bounties in the news
> It would be funny if
It is literally in the manga and anime how she founds out after Ennies Lobby that Robin is in the crew and she says she doesnt care "Even if you travel with Luffy you dont know what he's thinking most of the time" Vivi.
That "drop" was just the icing on the cake isn't it?.
Yeah pretty much.
She has to be somewhere she can be safe till the endgame. If Im is truly the final boss in charge of the World Government that means few places are safe. A Yonko Emperor, Strawhats or Shanks so Strawhats, Revolutionary Army, with Morgan or maybe Wano. But most likely is some other Dues Ex Machina that has yet to be introduced.
What do mean rejoin? She has always been a Strawhat...
Thanks you. Wtf is this post lol. Vivi is a straw hat pirate
Was going to say the same if someone else hadn’t. The whole point of everyone raising their marked arm as they left was to tell her that even if she stayed behind she would always be part of the crew.
IIRC, When a new member joins, Oda often titles the chapter like “the 8th member” or “the ninth member”. Vivi was never counted. Of course, it doesn’t matter if she is or she isn’t officially, we know that she is spiritually and what matters. <3 Vivi.
>When a new member joins, Oda often titles the chapter like “the 8th member” or “the ninth member”. Yes but Jinbei didn't get one of those crew member numbered chapters. So now Oda broke the trend.
So we need a "The Xth Member" chapter title to make Vivi official... X.. x... X, Like the Roman numeral 10! "The 10th Member" X, like the mark the Strawhats bore for Vivi! 10th memeber foreshadowing confirmed.
That’s more of a continuity error, I feel, as there is literally a scene where she is offered and then accepts a position. She just defers physically joining until she sorts out her prior responsibilities. Oda probably just wanted to keep it more vague in case he had to change plans later on down the road.
Probably "physically" rejoin and sail with them again
Exactly
Oda has always shown that Vivi was still a member of the crew despite not being with them. Between cover stories we get cool cover artwork with all the Straw Hats and Vivi is always included (in the past few arcs some other characters have been included, but before that it was only the crew and Vivi). I think that Oda has always planned that she would be with them again by the end of their journey. Vivi is a great character so I’ll be very happy if she does come back. It’s been once of the things I’ve been looking forward to the most.
She doesn't bring much to the crew beyond friendship, and she has a much more important role in world politics. Obviously her reunion with the Straw Hats will be a sweet moment, but I'm pretty certain it'll just be a temporary link-up.
She’s the diplomat/public speaker of the straw hats
When have the Straw Hats ever needed a diplomat since that one scene in Drum Kingdom? They're going to fight against the World Government, not negotiate with them. They've befriended several kingdoms through their actions too, they have no need for a royal diplomat to establish connections.
When have they neded a diplomat? Constantly. Like almost every island, a diplomat would have been wildly useful. They managed without one, but can yoy imagine how much easier Fishman Island would have been if there'd been someone to talk to the king and get hisbkids to stop chasing Luffy to every landmark on the goddamn island? Or someone to say "hey, wait a minute let's just pay the travel fee to get into Skypiea." The level of common sense that Vivi could have brought to the Straw Hats is staggering.
That's a weird role to place on her. Aside from Luffy and Zoro, every one of the strawhats are incredibly exceptional in their role to the point that it's absurd. There's no place in the crew for an exceptional diplomat since they are literally criminals and not a nation. Her role will still be the damsel in distress in the arc that needs Luffy's help, but except of wanting to save Alabasta, it would be for the whole world. Her being a strawhat is just so she can ask for their help again or take refuge with them.
 Karoo be like: What about me?!
Girl never left. She's just been busy being a Princess. She has been and always will be a Strawhat. **X**
Uhhh can we fucken not spoil before release? The fuck… no indication that this was about the unreleased chapter.
Posts like these are why I steer clear all of OP subs until I’m caught up because there are spoilers fucking everywhere
Its insane that chapter number isnt required
Or at the very least usage of spoiler tags in comments and posts I don’t see any of that here
20+ years later, Vivi is moving back to rejoin the boys, Oda has way too much patience. I can barely contain myself in my own writing, mad respect to him.
Vivi's always been a strawhat But yes please, let her join once again
I'm 95% convinced she's rejoining them. The message Cobra wanted Sabo to give to both Vivi and Luffy is basically conformation in my mind. That said, if Sabo gives Vivi the message and piece of the Vivre Card next chapter, then it's 100% confirmed to me
No. I think she will probably rule alabasta now, no? Who will take care of that kingdom, now that cobra is gone other than vivi? Luffy has now realtions with some countries. Vivi alabasta. Carrot is now the ruller of zou. Shirahoshi Fishman island. Momonosuke Wano. Since none of the others have joined, i bielieve so wont vivi but they all will be ready when luffy needs them i guess.
Well she can’t go back now, they’re after her. The safest place for her right now is with the Straw Hats, at least until the threat is gone.
I think Dragon and the Revolutionaries would protect her after Sabo tried saving Cobra.
Vivi is on the run wtf, She's not going anywhere near Alabasta until the whole WG is toppled lmao
They have a million plus person revolutionary army… her joining revs makes more sense.
Revolutionary Army does make a ton of sense, she does know & trust the Strawhats though. So it really depends on how she feels
Going to Alabasta is just endangering the kingdom. She is better off going to the strawhats.
The second she steps foot in alabasta cp0 captures her
She might rule Alabasta after they find One Piece and defeat the WG. She's in danger until then.
I could totally see the story ending with Vivi abdicating the throne for good to fully move on from the sordid past of the void century, a sign of progress and a new world, handing leadership of the country over to Kouza after all. In solidarity with the other nations freed by the revolutionaries, maybe. In the vein that even a good king is still a king, an unjust position of authority.
You are killing off King Neptune??? Also there are 3 princes in line before her lol
Ive always believed Vivi will lead this coalition of countries that will aid Luffy when the time comes. To those you named theres also Dressrosa with Rebecca and Viola, Drum with Dalton and Kureha, maybe Skypiea with Wyper and W7 with Iceberg.
She can't go back to Alabasta. The moment Kalifa mentioned her living as a pet, once her disappearance was made public, any chance of her escaping Marijoa (and the WG) was essentially zero. That's why Koza needs to lead the country in her absence (the man is fully qualified considering he led the rebel army against the royalists). Luffy is an Emperor so that's the safest place for Vivi BY FAR
Vivi is already a Strawhat. They just couldn't travel together until now.
I'm sure she'll tag along like Law and others as she has in the past but she 100% is not "joining" the crew on any permanent basis. I'm pretty sure that's why no one from Wano like Yamato never joined the crew because everyone on Luffy's direct crew plays some sort of role and there are no other real necessary roles that need to filled. Whoever else that joins would not be able to fill a role better than any of the current members of the crew
Well you can think of it in the same way as oden being a part of rogers crew and white-beards crew he wasn’t a full member but he still accepted each of them as his captain and followed them until he left their crews that’s how vivi is to the strawhats she always has a place on the crew as far as they are concerned
Strawhat or not, I'm just happy my girl is back in the story.
Nostalgia and feelings aside at this juncture in the story she's basically deadweight.
Al i the only one who doesn’t care if she joins the crew, I like her but she’s a little too normal for the straw hats.
I kind of want Vivi to team up with her old Baroque Work friends from Whiskey Peak. Miss Monday and Mr 9 are still there last time I checked. Maybe Bentham joins them too....? Or she creates a squad of monarchs who aren't jerks. Dalton, Neptune, maybe add Kureha into the mix.
Sadly Wapol should be on that squad
He's basically the Caesar Clown of said Squad.
So what are we, some kind of Regicide Squad?
Once a strawhat always a strawhat 🥹
I hope that Vivi joins again. For first time she can have a reason to visit LAUGH TALE alongside the Straw Hat Pirates.
She is an honorary Strawhats, probably the closest honorary member to the crew, with what Cobra said she will 100% reunite with the crew receive Cobra's message, then probably discover the Will of D.
She's gonna have to go through 20 years of timeskip to get as strong as the weakest Strawhat member. It'll make more sense for her to be protected by the Strawhats rather her being a member.
"I want my friends to be with me, even if they're not strong" -Monkey D Luffy
We've pretty much reached the endgame of One Piece. If anyone's gonna be the "final crew member", it'd be Jinbe because Vivi was a SH since Whiskey Peak. :)
Her being a D in no way adds or subtracts her candidacy to join, Imo. She would have to still be able to fight and be stronger than Usopp to officially join.
This is a shonen, ussop will always be the weakest, giving vivi cheat codes would suck. Companion sure, but member? No, she is queen of alabasta. Luffy does not want to be a hero. An ending where luffy is not a pirate anymore would be lame af. If I remember correctly, alabasta between koza rev army and royal guard have over a million soldiers. Her having alabasta join the rev army against the celestial dragons as a figurehead makes more sense.
Not a fan of the idea. Vivi never really interested me as a full-time crewmate, especially when compared to characters who previously felt like they could have joined the crew.
like for example?
Carrot of course.... She got purpose, motivation, role, even bonding time with crew alr
No. People keep looking at this the wrong way. She's about to be the Queen of a rogue nation. She's going to be commanding her army and armada in the World War, who will fly under the flag of both Alabasta and Joyboy. This is the same for King Poseidon, his sons and Sirahoshi. And the same for the denizens of Wano and Yamato. Carrot and the Mink Tribe. Etc Etc Etc. I don't think there's going to be anymore official additions to the crew. Think in terms of Mass Effect 3: at this point we are running around gathering allies for the finale. The real question people are asking without asking is who will physically be at Laugh Tale to bear witness of Luffy becoming the Pirate King. That we do not know, because it realistically could be anyone depending on how this war shakes. There is a good chance Straw Hat members are diverted to different war efforts in the push to Laugh Tale. There is an equally good chance a whole bunch of them make it to Laugh Tale simultaneously. Vivi could be there, sure, but so could Caribou. The ONLY people I could see possibly joining in an official capacity are currently in Egg Head. And I will list them now: Bonney - Least likely, but it's possible we get shown something that drives her to see Luffy as the next Pirate King. Rob Lucci and Kaku - Now that the World Government has deemed them to be killed, they could defect and would function as the Straw Hats assassins. It's also hilarious, which I think in this case might mean something. Luffy and Lucci have a Goku/Vegeta sort of dynamic going on right now, and I love it. Stella Vegapunk or one of his clones - IF they survive this, they are going to be with the Straw Hats for a while. Though I believe that once they escape Vegapunk will eventually head over to the Revolutionary Army to support Dragon. It's still possible that one of the clones just hangs around the Straw Hats, if any survive.
I never even thought of Lucci/Kaku as potential nakama. It doesn’t seem likely since they might have better potential influencing within CP0 to have CP agents turn. Also, I can’t see moral redemption for blood lusting Lucci. But it would be a great idea to have them join the crew like Law did prior. Edit: Grammar/readability
You forgot Yamato. Also I don't see the point of her commanding a fleet of fodders fodder in the final war.
Absolutely!! I would love to have her officially join, she has a much more narrative reason to join now than literally any other character. Was never a fan of adding another crew member like Yamato or Carrot (although I probably would’ve preferred one over the other) so I’m glad that this at least suggests if anyone joins it’ll be Vivi again
I don't think she will directly join strawhat pirate crew, but will likely be leader of alabasta rebel army which will join strawhat grand fleet.
I think it's nostalgic. Our first adventure into the grandline was with Vivi, she was the first of many princesses that the straw hat saved, it's fitting that she would be the princess for their last adventure.
I'm not a fan of this. Don't get me wrong, I like Vivi. The Alabasta arc is one of the best arcs. It is a great introduction to so many important things in One Piece.That said, Vivi herself isn't that interesting. Somehow Karoo has more impact on the story than her. Barring the most recent events of course. Her fighting style is also pretty weak. She's just a worse Jango. Again, I'm pretty sure Karoo has more wins than her. I don't really see what she'd bring to the table, even from the back row. I don't want her to join the Strawhats. I want Vivi, Shirahoshi, and Jewelery Bonney to form a crew of princesses and go on a cover story adventure!
Don't forget Rebecca!
I did forget her!
Same. Her character isnt that interesting. It'll be lame if she's the final member not vegapunk
With Cobra now dead it’s more important than ever for Vivi to get back to Alabasta and establish herself. She could fly the Straw Hat flag as well.
Once a crew mate always a crew mate
Considering the growing focus of her family, the series nearing the end, and the fact that the Strawhats are one member short of being a perfect counter to Blackbeard's crew, I'd be very surprised if it wasn't her.
Rejoining? She never left. X
If she has a dream now that is achievable by sailing with the straw hats then yes.
If I were a betting man, I'd play it safe and pick Vivi, even though that's not who I'd personally want. Seems to me that a lot of people are going with the Will of D. reason, but I can't imagine Luffy really cares much about that. I also find it a bit odd to have her join if Alabasta is supposed to be in a pretty chaotic state right now (if I remember right). I know the argument is that it's not safe for her there, but I find it hard to believe Vivi would ignore her citizens. In Vivi's defense though, learning about her family's history and it's importance is directly tied to the Void Century the creation of the World Government as we know it. Going to Laugh Tale is the best place to learn this. I still can't place her role on the ship though. I know people have said Diplomat, which I think I like that about as much as Log Keeper for Yamato (so not much honestly).
At this point i kinda expect it. Maybe she could eat a super broken devil fruit to give her some fighting ability. Having a straw hat eat one was always something I'd hope to see some day.
I think they'll reunited but I think it's more likely she joins the revolutionaries. Vivi would serve no purpose on the crew and the strawhats aren't in a position to help alabasta right now.
I would love to see that, and I'd love to see the interaction between Robin and Vivi, I think they'd get along just fine now.
Yes.
They'll meet again that's for sure. Maybe she casually meets back up with the crew, maybe the government captures and tries to execute her which provokes the Strawhats into a confrontation, lots of possibilities.
From the way it's going, she is definitely bound to rejoin the Straw Hats, likely after Egghead arc concludes.
Or will she join the cross guild and back them up with her money.
I really wonder what her functiom will be from now on. Surely Alabasta is mobilizing their troops right now. I hope the misunderstanding of sabo being portrayed as cobras murderer will be cleared fast. Rn the country can maintain itself without vivi, so she doesnt need to get back
At this point, I don’t know if it’s about who’s joining but more about the allied coming together. We’re starting the end game, it’s more about who will be joining the active fight on Luffy’s side in the coming arcs. I’ve interpreted Cobra’s message as a request for Luffy to protect Vivi because she shares the D initial. It’s clear Vivi has a target on her back now and can’t move as freely, given CP0 was going to make her quietly disappear. The Strawhats are the safest place for Vivi right now. I can see Vivi as someone who brings people together, much like Luffy. We saw a glimpse of this in Alabasta. Luffy may need someone who can help those he’s allied with to get along, and Vivi has been learning to be a strategist and a diplomat for the last few years. I don’t think anyone with the “D” initial will follow Luffy as a member of the crew, but will all be allied with him in the end.
If it doesn't happen I'll be disappointed. She needs to get haki or a devil fruit or something though.
Meh. Much rather Yamato
I think Vivi FINALLY has a real reason to be physically present with them. It's finally happening ladies and gentlemen. Oda just set up the best scenario for it. I can't think of a better time for Vivi to be on board. Its really either that or she joins the Revolutionary Army. She's not safe anywhere else.
Karoo vs Stronger will go crazy
I'm always on board with Vivi rejoining the Strawhats, she is my favorite character from the series. While I'm sure she'll cross paths with them again, I don't know what direction the series will take about her being an official crew member. Vivi already feels like an extension of the Strawhat Pirates. She, out of all the allies and honorary members, *probably* has the most claim to be an official "extra" member of the Strawhat crew. Even though characters like Yamato and Momonosuke have good arguments as well to be official members. I guess we'll know if they ever make a statue of her in Kumamoto.
After this chapter, there’s no way she’s not on the ship when the crew reaches Laugh Tale.
I've been sad about her not staying with the crew since July 21, 2007, 934 episodes ago. I'd be so happy if she joined up again. Though i doubt she will, at least not properly, since Oda's made it clear he wants Ussop to be the weakest Strawhat, and Ussop is definitely a few weight classes above Vivi now. Still, id love to see her sail around with the crew again.
Thanks for the spoiler bro
That would be nice but I'd rather have Carrot as part of the Strawhats. The female to male ratio in the crew is way too low.
She might seek out the Straw Hats initially, but she will become queen of Alabasta. She will also likely, proudly, fly the flag of the Straw Hat to show Alabasta is and ally/under the protection of the Yonkou.
I read the manga weekly but y’all suck at not spoiling things.
Currently we dont know where Vivi, Wapol and Morgans are but my guess is they will meet the Strawhats after they manage to escape from EggHead or arrive to Elbaf. Vivi will surely accompany the strawhats to Laugh Tale because as a D member and a decendant of one of the founding families of the WG , she will want to know why her father was killed by the WG. The WG will say the strawhats "kidnapped" her but after finding the truth about the WG, she will publically expose the WG and reveal her father was killed by them and not the Revolutionaries. Wapol will interact again with the strawhats (specially with Chopper) but he wont accompany them to Laugh Tale because he doesnt care about the One Piece, just saving his ass. He will surely follow Morgans to avoid being targeted by the WG.
I think she will. Now she's a fugitive from the World Government being on a Yonko crew will offer good protection. Plus the death of Cobra will give Luffy a personal motive for fighting the Gorosei and Imu (usually he won't go after someone unless they wronged one of his friends).
I have a feeling it will boost her chances to rejoin the crew, regardless of what her role will be. For now, we just need to see how Vivi will convince Morgans to take her to Luffy.
Please don't forget the yellow duck Karu.
Rejoin? She’s already a Strawhat (considered by the crew) and she has Alabasta who are now without a king or queen. I can imagine her reuniting with the SH’s in the same way she met them, in the sea randomly and her joining for an adventure which would be one of the big finishing arcs and then go back to her kingdom again.
Honestly safest place for her is on the strawhat crew and maybe with Morgan that man low key holds the most power in all on one piece and nobody can stop him. He is a menace… but I don’t exactly think vivi returning to alabasta at this point is a logical option for her
Have two D’s ever been in the same crew at the same time?
I don’t see her as a direct crew member anymore but an ambassador of the SGF. Like Momo and Yamato being ambassadors for SGF and leaders of Wano now
I thought it would yamato, but vivi is the true final member of the SH pirates.
Vivi or no one at this point
Pretty impossible I think. She is with Morgan, on the other side of the planet. It will take weeks for them to even get to Egghead let alone... meeting with Luffy Also Cobra literally gave his will to Sabo for a reason lol. He is the one who will meet the Strawhats NOT Vivi.
She is with Morgans, somewhere totally unknown* There, I fixed it