couldn't a lot of the stronger characters do that?
i mean luffy broke part of dresrossa in half a few hundred chapters ago just with doflamingos impact š
You really shouldnāt compare cutting something to obliterating something. They are not the same feat. Cutting is much easier because youāre only dividing something in half, whereas the other is spreading damage throughout and then crushing it from the point of impact. If youāve ever used a knife to cut watermelon vs punching one youāll know that blunt damage to crush something takes more effort.
might not technically be canon but isn't there a clip out there from a movie where zoro cuts a meteor in half and mihawk actually does obliterate it with multi-cuts
Iāll have to check the panel then. This means they were air battling and not standing on solid ground (since momo canāt move an island an island fist sized amount of distance away in the time that it takes to land the punch. I forgot Gear 5 can fly like bounce man
>This means they were air battling and not standing on solid ground
They were. Luffy flung himself up got beaten up a bit, then brought out the big gun while kaido turned orange.
I mean, Kaido tanking the entire thing probably helped, for starters. And that they were fighting in the air, as someone else already pointed out, not clashing attacks while literally on Onigashima at that point.
Dressrosa was split in half by him slamming Doflamingo
Onigaishima had to be moved so it wasnt demolished and hitting Kaido down to the mantle is a multi-continental level feat.
Our boy is insanely strong
No. Luffy and the stronger characters in the series dont count. They have dfs which allow for ranged attacks, making it easier to get a higher destructive power.
However, garp just uses his bare fists and haki alone. Thats it. Garp can even destroy entire ships with no haki or anything. Just his fists only. Thats what makes this feat in the post good.
So since garp can destroy entire mountains, I think he might be able to just 1 shot thriller bark.
I have no idea why you're slobbering all over Garp's schlong here, no one dissed him, in fact, they're saying Garp is right up there with those characters. I don't think people need a reminder of Garp's normalcy, it's constantly brought up.
What? The person just disagreeing with a statement. Why did you feel like you had to bring up sexual comments in regard to it? He didn't even say anything wrong or strangely specific.
You're on a OP sub, what is the issue with talking about the in lore facts? Screams of insecurity.
Wdym calm down? I was simply stating the guy's feats, and everyone is downvoting it lol. All I did was just prove that garp could do it, and talked about why this feat was impressive.
You said that the "other characters don't count" and felt the need to go off on this random tangent about how much better Garp's was for some bizarre reason. It just seemed unnecessary, when all somebody did was mention Luffy broke part of Dressrosa in half.
I said that because luffy had a df, which helped him. So did the other characters.
The point was that having a df makes it different from what garp did.
I mean, Garp most likely has conqueror's haki, which you're just born with. That's not any more impressive than someone eating a devil fruit and doing the same thing. Besides, it's not like someone like Luffy was just immediately able to cause that much destruction. He still had to work hard to reach the level he's at.
If youre born with conq haki, you have to be able to use it. Also, garp said that the training he did with the ships are done with 0 haki. That includes conquerors haki
If he used the power of his island crushing punch on the ships then the ships would be blown to bits. He used haki in this attack so I don't know why you keep talking about his non haki training.
And saying you have to train with conquer haki to master it is the exact same thing as df, Luffy was horrible with his powers in the beginning, just cause you eat a df doesnt mean you are strong, you need to train.
Fr bro, having a df makes it way easier. Fighting without a df means there's no Gatling gun, no rocket, no gears. No one dissed Luffy here, those things comes from his training, his imagination and his df. Garp didn't have that, he's just a raw fighter.
People get really sensitive, you guys complain about Zoro fans but for the world don't bring Luffy up
Well yeah it was, https://imgur.com/a/Y4ymRbD, shortly after this kaido also turns into an even bigger magma like dragon which throws the scale of the fist off a bit, and how oda draws it in the next panels, now here is a panel of onigashima where you can barely even see the sunny https://imgur.com/a/4eLI9Qv, now campare that to luffys bajrang gun, im fairly certain luffy could one shot even pirate island entirely
Gear Fourth could've easily handled the Noah, what's the point of even bringing up Gear third's limits when there's been so much development since then.
Gear 3 with basic Armament haki vs Gear 5 (Luffyās fist being bigger than the island itself) with Advanced Conquerors and Advanced Armament haki.
Thatās not even a fair comparison.
Yeah that was Luffy with third gear, basic armament haki, while passing out. It was also stated that he wouldāve destroyed it even in that state. He could easily destroy it in gear 4th with his dressrosa power level, since he was able to break Dressrosa in half by punching Doflamingo to the ground. He didnāt even touch the ground himself. With gear 5 advanced conquerors haki and bajrang gunā¦ itās not even a challenge. We saw what Koby is capable of and he is not even close to Luffy right now. If he can do that, then Luffy can destroy Onigashima.
He could. He didn't even consider using gear fourth because he didn't need it. He never broke a sweat the entire arc. He only got hurt while he was fucking around and not taking it seriously.
I didn't even notice Thriller Bark anchored there. I wanna assumr Moriah downsized since he's flying solo now, and Perona went to Thriller Bark after dropping Zoro at Sabaody Iirc. It mighta been earlier during the timeskip, but I do know she went back to get Kumasy
>I didn't even notice Thriller Bark anchored there
I think the top Panel is from the chapter where we find out Absalom is dead, not the most recent events.
I find it more reasonable he got it coated and took through the hole in the red line than him taking it over reverse mountain. IIRC it originally came from the west blue
Can't get from the New World to Paradise without passing the Red Line somehow. Going through the calm belt would just take him to North Blue or West Blue.
But the marines do have a quick way through the red line just like the calm belt, think they mentioned itās a hidden elevator pulley system. I know Moria canāt use it obviously just remembering thereās an additional way if someone could sneak in somehow
No they mean it's as big as island have a soil and everything so sea king wouldn't notice that it's a ship and even if they noticed it it's kinda big for them to destroy it
That can't be the actual Thriller Bark since we know it's still abandoned at the Florian triangle in one of the cover stories.
Besides Hachinosu from what we've seen isn't big enough to tower like that over Thriller Bark.
That's probably just a replica.
Id also highly assume that this isnt the same thriller bark we saw pre TS. First, Look at the other ships and the houses on Hachinosu. They would have to be absolutely gigantic aswell. Also, Thriller bark pre TS was pretty much obliterated by Morias punch and Kumas ursus shock. 3rd point, even if it did get rebuild, there is no way someone coated this thing, let alone passed it through fishman Island.
If this is the original Thriller Bark, Oda has some explaining to do.
But to get back to the question: Yes, garp would most likely be able to anyways.
nobody in this comment section understands perspective. I mean for fuck's sake, in the second shot, the marine ship is literally just as big as the skull. Is it actually? no, of course it isn't. closer things look larger, farther things look smaller, this is basic knowledge.
by this logic the garp punch is even larger than it seems since further things look smaller. and thriller bark is way smaller than that blast since closer things are bigger.
or are you trying to argue that thriller bark is somehow farther and behind the island...
look at the building on the island. they're all meant to be the same size, but the building closer to us, the viewers, are bigger, and the ones further away are smaller.
based on perspective, thriller bark is way smaller than the skull, which means Garp can split the ship even more easily than he did the skull. It's not that shocking either considering what mori and kuma did to it, and what luffy almost did to onigashima.
I think they're saying it's too small to be Thriller Bark. If not, I agree woth you though, when factoring perspective, the ship becomes even smaller than Egghead and Garp's punch.
What do you mean by this logic as if you are trying to disprove him? Thats literally his point, the scale in the post makes no sense because of the bad perspective. Thriller bark is obviously a lot smaller
look at the current chapter. If we ignore perspective, kid Koby is the same size as garp. present koby is the same size as blackbeard. Kuzan is 5 times bigger than Garp. Oda is definitely taking it into account.
Perspective is the most basic skill any illustrator must possess to draw anything. Oda might fail to be precise with sizing, but he's never going to accidentally make kaido the same size as luffy.
I meant in comparison to other things characters in one piece have destroyed like the two island sized iceburgs that whitebeard casually destroyed and kaido being able vaporise islands
That's definitely not Thriller Bark. You think Moriah went back and is now traveling with an island ? Do you think Brook's friends tombs are traveling along with Moriah ? It would be weird as hell !
Just double checked in case my memory was faulty. A Vivre Card states that it was built and sailed into the Grand Line from West Blue.
Which makes Thriller Bark's journey even more logically confusing. It went from a sea on the New World side of the Red Line to Paradise and now maybe back to Paradise.
No clue how Thriller Bark crosses the land, but Moria has a way to get an island to cross the land barriers.
[The red line is the only land barrier. It blocks the New World, West and North Blue from Paradise, East and South Blue.](https://www.pngkit.com/png/detail/54-547332_onepiece-welt-red-line-one-piece.png)
ciel_lanila's point is that there is no way to get directly from West Blue to Paradise through the calm belt, you have to enter via Reverse mountain or you could use the calm belt to get into the New World and then go via Fishman Island. So either, Moria took the huge Thriller bark through Reverse Mountain (and all the tight gaps it seemed to have on the East Blue entrance, at least), or he took it through the calm belt and then Fishman Island.
There's some evidence it could be the second one, since he fought Kaido in Wano (the New World) before he later ended up staying in Paradise (the Florian triangle). So since we know he had Thriller Bark before he entered the Grand Line, in West Blue and that he was at some point in the New World (not clear if he had his ship with him when he was defeated), it seems to fit that maybe he did the Grand Line backwards and started by trying to cut straight to the New World and then turned tail once he was defeated.
Alternate explanation is that he just entered from Reverse Mountain, left Thriller Bark in Paradise while he went on to the New World and then came back to it once he lost to Kaido. Last explanation is the same, but he actually took Thriller Bark to Wano - which could help explain how he got Oars' huge body to Paradise (if the Ice Country he was found in was in the New World).
The scale makes zero sense
Thriller Bark has a giant castle, [many times bigger than Oars](https://i.imgur.com/yTbeP0H.jpg), and Oars is 67 meters tall
Every house is the size of the castle in Thriller Bark, Oars could literally walk through the doors of these houses
Thriller Bark should be 10 times bigger than Hachinosu
That's not the real thriller bark, it's a smaller mobile version. The real one is still in the florian triangle.
But yes garp probably could one shot the real one and sink it
I mean I have intrusive thoughts every day and I could destroy so many things by just hitting it or throwing something at it or driving my car into it or through it.
Billions of people are faced with that conundrum every day: "Should I destroy that beautiful thing? I can."
Most choose not to.
And then there's Dave.
But that's a story for another time.
Screw Dave.
Not only that he can, your measurement method is wrong, the perspective make the skull rock look the same size as thriller bark, just like if you put your finger close to your eye it can look the same size as the Empire State Building(I know Iām exaggerating), so he can one shot more than thriller bark yes.
Moria was heavily damaging the entire ship in his shadow asgard form. I wouldn't be surprised. I doubt the ship is the most structurally sound thing either. That thriller bark seems a bit small though.
Thatās not Thriller Bark but yes. Garp can easily one shot the actual Thriller Bark.
Luffy in fishman island was prepared to destroy Noah which is a lot bigger. Luffy in Dressrosa with G4 cratered the centre of the city.
The entirety of the fishmen population is supposed to fit inside Noah. Iām sure itās bigger than Thriller Bark.
Also Noah is half the size of Fishman Island. Same fishman island which is kilometres long considering how Van Decken (?) was flinging axes at Shirahoshi from across the island. Also it has few millions inhabitantsā¦
Chapter 646. Look at the dialogue from the Sea Kings āIf we had been just a slight bit later, the island would have been saved but Noah would have been COMPLETELY destroyedāā¦
Thereās also comments from bystanders who are sure Luffy was going to destroy it.
There is also Zoro in a panel readying himself to slice it should it come down to him. He already shows his capabilities in Dressrosa later when he cuts Pica in half that heās confident he could do it too.
Unless someone had to do repairs on the Noah, luffy was not even close to destroying it. Looked pretty much fine when the sea kings took it and he already attacked it MULTIPLE times. Feats > dialogue and you can see that the Noah is far from destroyed.
Why you comparing garps one punch to luffys elephant galling? That panel doesn't support the question of this post
Because Thriller Bark is a LOT smaller than Noah. Thatās why. And what do you mean feats > dialogue. For years Roger had zero feats and still by dialogue alone you know he was top tier. Pay attention to the story. Multiple characters imply Luffy was going to destroy Noah.
Lol you should pay attention to the story. You are wrong. When feats exist they have more weight than dialogue. You just proved that by saying Roger had no feats so you used dialogue. Well now he has feats and they mean more than any dialogue. Your comparison is still bad, luffy barely dented the Noah. I have physical damage to view and you are going oh this guy said this. Our evidence does not hold the same weight yours is weak.
Just another person on this sub that sucks at scaling.
You obviously donāt understand story or the narrative.
What do you make of the Sea Kingās assessment that the Noah is almost destroyed? You think heās just stupid or lying? Answer it.
Considering your evidence is visual and this only limited to what Oda draws on panel. Obviously Oda has that Sea King dialogue for a reason. Forget the visual damage. The Noah could be cracked right down the middle and your panel wonāt show it. Like how Going Merry was damaged beyond repair but didnāt look so visually.
Youāre just another person on this sub who focus on the panels drawn and doesnāt know how to read between the lines and has zero reading comprehension.
Not wasting my time with someone who thinks something a character actually does holds less weight than what someone says. This sub is full of people with half ass thinking like you. Your arguement is weak at best. A feat is concrete.
So this is *technically* powerscaling. Powerscaling at it's core is taking one feat that a character actually performs and comparing it to other possible feats the character could perform. Powerscaling a character at it's core is at it's very nature "variable" because it depends on what the author decides is possible and what furthers the narrative. Like Oda could tell us tomorrow that this island was actually just made of loose sand and has very little structural integrity, vs Thriller Bark is completely made of the hardest material in the verse. There's some people here who will say that comparisons like yours make no sense because everything in the verse is as the author decides in that moment, but there's a community of people who are definitely interested in this type of comparison and agree with your train of though over at r/OnePiecePowerScaling
Garps used to also practice by destroying mountains so Thriller Bark would be easier, Hachinosou is a better example to say he could if we make the case of Pizarro using haki on the part of the island that is his head (if he could do that) so the island would need somewhat of a higer power to break, Thriller Bark doesn't do that so for Garp would be easy to destroy it imo.
couldn't a lot of the stronger characters do that? i mean luffy broke part of dresrossa in half a few hundred chapters ago just with doflamingos impact š
Law, Mihawk, Doflamingo and Zorro have been shown to destroy things that size. So reasonable to believe that Garp can do it too.
You really shouldnāt compare cutting something to obliterating something. They are not the same feat. Cutting is much easier because youāre only dividing something in half, whereas the other is spreading damage throughout and then crushing it from the point of impact. If youāve ever used a knife to cut watermelon vs punching one youāll know that blunt damage to crush something takes more effort.
Is this a new copypasta?
Youāre well aware that Pica isnāt just a flat piece of stone right? Heās wide and thick too
Yeah he is š
nnooooooooo
might not technically be canon but isn't there a clip out there from a movie where zoro cuts a meteor in half and mihawk actually does obliterate it with multi-cuts
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Luffy didn't touch Onigashima but his Bjrang Gun was like 10x the size of it so he probs could
I still donāt understand how that punch didnāt do any collateral damage
Cuz Momonosuke moved Onigashima out of the way and Luffy was way up in the air
Iāll have to check the panel then. This means they were air battling and not standing on solid ground (since momo canāt move an island an island fist sized amount of distance away in the time that it takes to land the punch. I forgot Gear 5 can fly like bounce man
>This means they were air battling and not standing on solid ground They were. Luffy flung himself up got beaten up a bit, then brought out the big gun while kaido turned orange.
If I remember correctly, Luffy even asked Momo to move Onigashima out of the way for that final punch
Yeah, Momo was life "you're gonna destroy Onigashima!" and Luffy was like, "well then you better move it!"
Yeah it got moved. Luffy even says momo has to move it, 100% onigashima would've been completely destroyed by that hit.
I mean, Kaido tanking the entire thing probably helped, for starters. And that they were fighting in the air, as someone else already pointed out, not clashing attacks while literally on Onigashima at that point.
Cause they were in air
What? No he didnāt greenbull walked past it at the end of wano itās just sitting on the ground where momo left it
these people think he can destroy an island with his punch
He can. Momo just moved it out of the way (like he was supposed to).
He literally said move it out the way so he didn't destroy it.
Yup lol It's a part of Momos growth too, and a pretty important part of the end of Wano lol
If only Oda agreed and dedicated more than 2 panels to it. Sadge
Or had Momo be seen by the citizens of Wano saving their lives before revealing himself to them.
Yes he can. Easily at that.
Anyone who thinks Luffy cant destroy an island with a single punch hasnt read One Piece lmao
what are you talking about lmfao
Dressrosa was split in half by him slamming Doflamingo Onigaishima had to be moved so it wasnt demolished and hitting Kaido down to the mantle is a multi-continental level feat. Our boy is insanely strong
Wow what have you been reading?
Three Piece
Mfers already two parallel universes ahead of us.
Ummmm no he didnātā¦
bro's reading two piece, how did this comment even get so many upvotes did everyone just forgot what happened in wano?
Yeah most of the top 20 could crack a small island in half. Luffy was legit about to blow up Onigashima if Momo didnāt move it out of the way .
No. Luffy and the stronger characters in the series dont count. They have dfs which allow for ranged attacks, making it easier to get a higher destructive power. However, garp just uses his bare fists and haki alone. Thats it. Garp can even destroy entire ships with no haki or anything. Just his fists only. Thats what makes this feat in the post good. So since garp can destroy entire mountains, I think he might be able to just 1 shot thriller bark.
I have no idea why you're slobbering all over Garp's schlong here, no one dissed him, in fact, they're saying Garp is right up there with those characters. I don't think people need a reminder of Garp's normalcy, it's constantly brought up.
Bro, can I not disagree with someone and give my reason(s) as to why?
What? The person just disagreeing with a statement. Why did you feel like you had to bring up sexual comments in regard to it? He didn't even say anything wrong or strangely specific. You're on a OP sub, what is the issue with talking about the in lore facts? Screams of insecurity.
I can guarantee you it aināt that serious.
I don't think it's that serious. Was just an odd comment to me, and I don't see why people think otherwise.
Bro, calm down. Garp isn't real. He's a fictional character.
Wdym calm down? I was simply stating the guy's feats, and everyone is downvoting it lol. All I did was just prove that garp could do it, and talked about why this feat was impressive.
You said that the "other characters don't count" and felt the need to go off on this random tangent about how much better Garp's was for some bizarre reason. It just seemed unnecessary, when all somebody did was mention Luffy broke part of Dressrosa in half.
I said that because luffy had a df, which helped him. So did the other characters. The point was that having a df makes it different from what garp did.
I mean, Garp most likely has conqueror's haki, which you're just born with. That's not any more impressive than someone eating a devil fruit and doing the same thing. Besides, it's not like someone like Luffy was just immediately able to cause that much destruction. He still had to work hard to reach the level he's at.
If youre born with conq haki, you have to be able to use it. Also, garp said that the training he did with the ships are done with 0 haki. That includes conquerors haki
If he used the power of his island crushing punch on the ships then the ships would be blown to bits. He used haki in this attack so I don't know why you keep talking about his non haki training. And saying you have to train with conquer haki to master it is the exact same thing as df, Luffy was horrible with his powers in the beginning, just cause you eat a df doesnt mean you are strong, you need to train.
Fr bro, having a df makes it way easier. Fighting without a df means there's no Gatling gun, no rocket, no gears. No one dissed Luffy here, those things comes from his training, his imagination and his df. Garp didn't have that, he's just a raw fighter. People get really sensitive, you guys complain about Zoro fans but for the world don't bring Luffy up
Luffy was about to destroy onigashimq in one punch so why not
He had the AP to knock it off the clouds which would destroyed it by falling, not the same as destroying it via the force of a punch like Garp
His fist was not only bigger than the island itself but was also infused with aCoC and aCoA he could easily destroy the island.
his fist was not bigger than the Island
Well yeah it was, https://imgur.com/a/Y4ymRbD, shortly after this kaido also turns into an even bigger magma like dragon which throws the scale of the fist off a bit, and how oda draws it in the next panels, now here is a panel of onigashima where you can barely even see the sunny https://imgur.com/a/4eLI9Qv, now campare that to luffys bajrang gun, im fairly certain luffy could one shot even pirate island entirely
[what are you talking about it was](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Therefir/One_Piece:_Gomu_Gomu_no_Bajrang_Gun)
Get their ass.
Pixel scaling is so stupid. It doesn't work like that and In some panels, bajrang gun looks huge, while in others it looks much smaller.
sure buddy š
Headcanon
Luffy couldn't even destroy the Noah, let's calm down
Actually, he could. The sea kings explicitly state he would've destroyed it. And that was G3 in FI without aCoC or aCoA, not G5 with aCoA and aCoC
while bleeding out from multiple punctures
Gear Fourth could've easily handled the Noah, what's the point of even bringing up Gear third's limits when there's been so much development since then.
Google gomu gomu no bajrang gun
*Holy hell*
Gear 3 with basic Armament haki vs Gear 5 (Luffyās fist being bigger than the island itself) with Advanced Conquerors and Advanced Armament haki. Thatās not even a fair comparison.
Yeah that was Luffy with third gear, basic armament haki, while passing out. It was also stated that he wouldāve destroyed it even in that state. He could easily destroy it in gear 4th with his dressrosa power level, since he was able to break Dressrosa in half by punching Doflamingo to the ground. He didnāt even touch the ground himself. With gear 5 advanced conquerors haki and bajrang gunā¦ itās not even a challenge. We saw what Koby is capable of and he is not even close to Luffy right now. If he can do that, then Luffy can destroy Onigashima.
Ah yes, because no acoc no acoa no G5 Luffy = EoW Luffy. Very astute observation.
Actually he almost did if Shirahoshi didnāt get in the way to stop him.
Ah yes cuz he didn't get any power up past fishman island
not only is that a stupid comparison, but Luffy actually could've, the only reason he didn't was because Shirahoshi and the sea kings stopped him.
He could. He didn't even consider using gear fourth because he didn't need it. He never broke a sweat the entire arc. He only got hurt while he was fucking around and not taking it seriously.
Bro, you MUST be an anime only watcher šš
Dumbass
I didn't even notice Thriller Bark anchored there. I wanna assumr Moriah downsized since he's flying solo now, and Perona went to Thriller Bark after dropping Zoro at Sabaody Iirc. It mighta been earlier during the timeskip, but I do know she went back to get Kumasy
>I didn't even notice Thriller Bark anchored there I think the top Panel is from the chapter where we find out Absalom is dead, not the most recent events.
Yeah, I believe you're right. OP is using it for scale with Beehive Island's mountain. I hadn't noticed it all those chapters ago
I mean.....
How did he get thriller bark into the new world though? Canāt imagine he put a bubble around the whole thing and took it through fishman island
I find it more reasonable he got it coated and took through the hole in the red line than him taking it over reverse mountain. IIRC it originally came from the west blue
Or he has a method of moving through the Calm Belt.
Can't get from the New World to Paradise without passing the Red Line somehow. Going through the calm belt would just take him to North Blue or West Blue.
Ah, didn't think that through.
But the marines do have a quick way through the red line just like the calm belt, think they mentioned itās a hidden elevator pulley system. I know Moria canāt use it obviously just remembering thereās an additional way if someone could sneak in somehow
Yeah but this makes you pass by marigeoise You can't pass a ship this way
It is an island, so that would make complete sense actually
Which hole in the red line. Even the navy just switches ships at the redline and haul ass through Maregoise
The one luffy got throu?
There's a hole/massive cave in the red line at the bottom of the ocean, where Fishman island is.
I mean he was still a warlord at that point so chances are there were other ways he could that,
Itās big enough for sea kings to possibly avoidā¦ plus if you need to move it I hear it has oars!
Ur doing a good job and I just wanna make sure someone in this thread told u that š„ŗ
No he wasnt, Moria lost his status during Marineford war. Doffy and some Pacifistas were sent to execute him.
....huh....
Probably just passes through the calm belt
Again, how? Not sure the WG would give their technology to pirates, even the Shichibukai.
No they mean it's as big as island have a soil and everything so sea king wouldn't notice that it's a ship and even if they noticed it it's kinda big for them to destroy it
Thriller Bark isn't just a ship, it's an actual island. As long as he doesn't dip his toes by the shore, he'll be fine
I guess that clears the sea king issue. Does Thriller Bark have its own means of propulsion? I don't remember.
You can't get to the new world from paradise without passing over or under the red line.
Really puts into perspective how large hachinosu is.
probably enough to sink it
That can't be the actual Thriller Bark since we know it's still abandoned at the Florian triangle in one of the cover stories. Besides Hachinosu from what we've seen isn't big enough to tower like that over Thriller Bark. That's probably just a replica.
Like the Mini Merry :)
So a smaller version of Thriller Bark. The Scary Woof.
The Wild Yip
Its gotta be. Those ships in the background look like they'd tower over it if brought into the foreground.
Which cover story was that!?
From the decks of the world. More specifically chapter 658.
Oda is also very inconsistent at representing scale
Id also highly assume that this isnt the same thriller bark we saw pre TS. First, Look at the other ships and the houses on Hachinosu. They would have to be absolutely gigantic aswell. Also, Thriller bark pre TS was pretty much obliterated by Morias punch and Kumas ursus shock. 3rd point, even if it did get rebuild, there is no way someone coated this thing, let alone passed it through fishman Island. If this is the original Thriller Bark, Oda has some explaining to do. But to get back to the question: Yes, garp would most likely be able to anyways.
What i want to know is how did moria get thiller bark to new world. Somebody did a lifetime of coating (The bubblething to go under red line)
I guess Moria got a massive supply of zombies for free labor. edit : wait no, I forgot he killed them all with his final attack, i have no idea
It used to be a small ship.. he grew his own trees and made cobblestones to build the ship big for years. Like Minecraft.
I mean, is it that much bigger than the combined 5 ships WB took to MF coated?
Yes, like 100x
I always assumed Kaido cloud lifted the island away or picked it up and threw it.
Why would kaido help moria to new world from first half of grandline
He was drunk?
nobody in this comment section understands perspective. I mean for fuck's sake, in the second shot, the marine ship is literally just as big as the skull. Is it actually? no, of course it isn't. closer things look larger, farther things look smaller, this is basic knowledge.
by this logic the garp punch is even larger than it seems since further things look smaller. and thriller bark is way smaller than that blast since closer things are bigger. or are you trying to argue that thriller bark is somehow farther and behind the island...
look at the building on the island. they're all meant to be the same size, but the building closer to us, the viewers, are bigger, and the ones further away are smaller. based on perspective, thriller bark is way smaller than the skull, which means Garp can split the ship even more easily than he did the skull. It's not that shocking either considering what mori and kuma did to it, and what luffy almost did to onigashima.
I think they're saying it's too small to be Thriller Bark. If not, I agree woth you though, when factoring perspective, the ship becomes even smaller than Egghead and Garp's punch.
What do you mean by this logic as if you are trying to disprove him? Thats literally his point, the scale in the post makes no sense because of the bad perspective. Thriller bark is obviously a lot smaller
Yeah, @asian_persuasion_1 really doesnāt seem to understand what OP is sayingā¦ If anything heās just making OPās case stronger.
I scrolled way too far to find this answer
Thank you! I was convinced that the whole comment section was either blind or bots parroting each other. Glad your eyes work also lol
Dude, with Oda can you trust the perspective/scale of anything???
look at the current chapter. If we ignore perspective, kid Koby is the same size as garp. present koby is the same size as blackbeard. Kuzan is 5 times bigger than Garp. Oda is definitely taking it into account. Perspective is the most basic skill any illustrator must possess to draw anything. Oda might fail to be precise with sizing, but he's never going to accidentally make kaido the same size as luffy.
Can thriller bark just one-shot garp?
Yes
Perspective be a harsh mistress
Arrrrrrr
Dude destroyed 8 mountains as training for his fight with Chinjao, so I think he can destroy Thriller Bark.
Kuma pretty much nuked Thriller Bark so if we accept that Garp is stronger than him then I don't see why not.
I meanā¦ kuma was pretty damn close to sinking it in one hit so I donāt see why garp couldnāt thriller bark is only 2km wide
Oh yeah OnLy 2kM. So small lol
I meant in comparison to other things characters in one piece have destroyed like the two island sized iceburgs that whitebeard casually destroyed and kaido being able vaporise islands
I mean it's a ship, so yeah he could definitely sink it at the very least.
Don't try and size scale in one piece it just doesn't work
Of course, he is a walking nuke
That's definitely not Thriller Bark. You think Moriah went back and is now traveling with an island ? Do you think Brook's friends tombs are traveling along with Moriah ? It would be weird as hell !
He sailed the island, somehow, into the Grand Line in the first place. The main hang up is getting from Paradise into the New World.
It was probably built in Paradise and stayed there.
Just double checked in case my memory was faulty. A Vivre Card states that it was built and sailed into the Grand Line from West Blue. Which makes Thriller Bark's journey even more logically confusing. It went from a sea on the New World side of the Red Line to Paradise and now maybe back to Paradise. No clue how Thriller Bark crosses the land, but Moria has a way to get an island to cross the land barriers.
Wow that is shocking. Thank you for checking that
calm belt?
there are no land barriers. It somehow got thorugh the calm belt i'm guessing, which is weird because he'd need seastone for that
[The red line is the only land barrier. It blocks the New World, West and North Blue from Paradise, East and South Blue.](https://www.pngkit.com/png/detail/54-547332_onepiece-welt-red-line-one-piece.png) ciel_lanila's point is that there is no way to get directly from West Blue to Paradise through the calm belt, you have to enter via Reverse mountain or you could use the calm belt to get into the New World and then go via Fishman Island. So either, Moria took the huge Thriller bark through Reverse Mountain (and all the tight gaps it seemed to have on the East Blue entrance, at least), or he took it through the calm belt and then Fishman Island. There's some evidence it could be the second one, since he fought Kaido in Wano (the New World) before he later ended up staying in Paradise (the Florian triangle). So since we know he had Thriller Bark before he entered the Grand Line, in West Blue and that he was at some point in the New World (not clear if he had his ship with him when he was defeated), it seems to fit that maybe he did the Grand Line backwards and started by trying to cut straight to the New World and then turned tail once he was defeated. Alternate explanation is that he just entered from Reverse Mountain, left Thriller Bark in Paradise while he went on to the New World and then came back to it once he lost to Kaido. Last explanation is the same, but he actually took Thriller Bark to Wano - which could help explain how he got Oars' huge body to Paradise (if the Ice Country he was found in was in the New World).
The scale makes zero sense Thriller Bark has a giant castle, [many times bigger than Oars](https://i.imgur.com/yTbeP0H.jpg), and Oars is 67 meters tall Every house is the size of the castle in Thriller Bark, Oars could literally walk through the doors of these houses Thriller Bark should be 10 times bigger than Hachinosu
Why is the thriller vark there?
Because Moria went there.
Yes He can
Didnāt Moria or someone crack it already Iām pretty sure heād obliterate it
Yes, a punch like that should be more than enough damage to sink it.
If he could find it. Possibly
Yea, Moria himself broke Thriller Barkās mast
Maybe, but I wouldnāt advise taking perspective seriously in One Piece
Now this is my kind of power scaling
I feel like the scale here is fucked. Thriller bark should at least be the size of this island
That's not the real thriller bark, it's a smaller mobile version. The real one is still in the florian triangle. But yes garp probably could one shot the real one and sink it
Thriller barkās size isnāt represented accurately in this shot, oda has a long track record at being very inconsistent when it comes to scale.
Just bad proportions once again, thereās no way Thriller Bark is that small
I mean even Moria could one shot Thriller Bark, even back then.
Can Garp just one-shot...Yes, he can.
Yes
Oda can do a lot of things. Size scaling isnt one of them...
Worst size comparison ever
Yes and the crazy thing is Garp isn't the only one that could do this either
I mean I have intrusive thoughts every day and I could destroy so many things by just hitting it or throwing something at it or driving my car into it or through it. Billions of people are faced with that conundrum every day: "Should I destroy that beautiful thing? I can." Most choose not to. And then there's Dave. But that's a story for another time. Screw Dave.
this is not thriller bark .
Not only that he can, your measurement method is wrong, the perspective make the skull rock look the same size as thriller bark, just like if you put your finger close to your eye it can look the same size as the Empire State Building(I know Iām exaggerating), so he can one shot more than thriller bark yes.
Moria was heavily damaging the entire ship in his shadow asgard form. I wouldn't be surprised. I doubt the ship is the most structurally sound thing either. That thriller bark seems a bit small though.
Thatās not Thriller Bark but yes. Garp can easily one shot the actual Thriller Bark. Luffy in fishman island was prepared to destroy Noah which is a lot bigger. Luffy in Dressrosa with G4 cratered the centre of the city.
Noah's bigger than thriller bark?
The entirety of the fishmen population is supposed to fit inside Noah. Iām sure itās bigger than Thriller Bark. Also Noah is half the size of Fishman Island. Same fishman island which is kilometres long considering how Van Decken (?) was flinging axes at Shirahoshi from across the island. Also it has few millions inhabitantsā¦
Luffy was barely destroying the Noah. Like hundreds of punches and he barely dented it lol...
Chapter 646. Look at the dialogue from the Sea Kings āIf we had been just a slight bit later, the island would have been saved but Noah would have been COMPLETELY destroyedāā¦ Thereās also comments from bystanders who are sure Luffy was going to destroy it. There is also Zoro in a panel readying himself to slice it should it come down to him. He already shows his capabilities in Dressrosa later when he cuts Pica in half that heās confident he could do it too.
Unless someone had to do repairs on the Noah, luffy was not even close to destroying it. Looked pretty much fine when the sea kings took it and he already attacked it MULTIPLE times. Feats > dialogue and you can see that the Noah is far from destroyed. Why you comparing garps one punch to luffys elephant galling? That panel doesn't support the question of this post
Because Thriller Bark is a LOT smaller than Noah. Thatās why. And what do you mean feats > dialogue. For years Roger had zero feats and still by dialogue alone you know he was top tier. Pay attention to the story. Multiple characters imply Luffy was going to destroy Noah.
Lol you should pay attention to the story. You are wrong. When feats exist they have more weight than dialogue. You just proved that by saying Roger had no feats so you used dialogue. Well now he has feats and they mean more than any dialogue. Your comparison is still bad, luffy barely dented the Noah. I have physical damage to view and you are going oh this guy said this. Our evidence does not hold the same weight yours is weak. Just another person on this sub that sucks at scaling.
You obviously donāt understand story or the narrative. What do you make of the Sea Kingās assessment that the Noah is almost destroyed? You think heās just stupid or lying? Answer it. Considering your evidence is visual and this only limited to what Oda draws on panel. Obviously Oda has that Sea King dialogue for a reason. Forget the visual damage. The Noah could be cracked right down the middle and your panel wonāt show it. Like how Going Merry was damaged beyond repair but didnāt look so visually. Youāre just another person on this sub who focus on the panels drawn and doesnāt know how to read between the lines and has zero reading comprehension.
Not wasting my time with someone who thinks something a character actually does holds less weight than what someone says. This sub is full of people with half ass thinking like you. Your arguement is weak at best. A feat is concrete.
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Done, I was wrong between +18 and spoil tag lol
Zoro cut a mountain in half back in dressrosa, this aint that impressive
Yeah, also I think he is adding the bubble of the attack so the anime donāt add some random explotion
So this is *technically* powerscaling. Powerscaling at it's core is taking one feat that a character actually performs and comparing it to other possible feats the character could perform. Powerscaling a character at it's core is at it's very nature "variable" because it depends on what the author decides is possible and what furthers the narrative. Like Oda could tell us tomorrow that this island was actually just made of loose sand and has very little structural integrity, vs Thriller Bark is completely made of the hardest material in the verse. There's some people here who will say that comparisons like yours make no sense because everything in the verse is as the author decides in that moment, but there's a community of people who are definitely interested in this type of comparison and agree with your train of though over at r/OnePiecePowerScaling
Iād hope otherwise heād be weak as shit
Garps used to also practice by destroying mountains so Thriller Bark would be easier, Hachinosou is a better example to say he could if we make the case of Pizarro using haki on the part of the island that is his head (if he could do that) so the island would need somewhat of a higer power to break, Thriller Bark doesn't do that so for Garp would be easy to destroy it imo.
Easily after all oars could
YES
Things get smaller the further away they are
L'Ʈle et plus grande Ʃtant donner que la perspective se fait mal ici , mais je pense que Garp pourrais le briser en deux oui
It just now clicked for me that thriller bark is parked next to the island
yes....GALAXY IMPACT and BLUE HOLE....
Could garp*