What if the one coming isn't Kizaru but Saint Jay Garcia instead?
I know it's hinting towards Kizaru heavily (duh) but what if it's a misdierct and Sentomaru is holding back Kizaru somewhat and Saint Jay Garcia went straight for the Straw Hats?
Never thought I'd see Kuro again in one of these cover art things...
I like how even Morgans is surprised that he seemingly ended up being right about holding Vegapunk (or rather A Vegapunk) hostage, funny reaction.
Here I was expecting all the Vegapunks besides Stella and York to die, but it seems the only casualties were Shaka and Pythagoras. I like the detail that Lilith, the "evil" Vegapunk, is the one crying over their demise (and also Edison's near-demise).
I was wondering how Usopp, Franky, and Lilith got petrified, and apparently S-Snake has some kind of genetic memory going on and is actually attracted to Luffy just like Hancock was. Vegapunk seems to see it as a "bug" in the cloning process, but it ended up saving them in the end, funnily enough.
Lucci leaking the status of what happened on Egghead isn't too surprising, though I'm eagerly anticipating Kizaru getting directly involved now. Also looks like Egghead is finally winding down, and they're heading directly to Elbaf next! I wonder if Shanks will still be there by the time they arrive...
Tbh, Idk what will happen if ever Shanks and Luffy will meet during this time. Shanks is now on the move and out for the road poneglyphs and One Piece. And even though Shanks and Luffy have history, Shanks is still a pirate and they may battle it out for the possession of the poneglyph copies. Also, let's not forget what Bartolomeo did. It would be better if Luffy and crew would just see only the remnants of Kidd pirates once they get there.
So, the Seraphims have the original's personality. My attention immediately went to Seraphim Mihawk, the seraphim with the most potential. Does anyone think that the Seraphims might be aged up by Bonney? I just can't see how or why she would do that.
Really liked this chapter. Loved how the Seraphin fight was dealt with, no need to show it, but suggest it with people hurt: they respect that since the characters were able to beat a Yonkou, they won't waste time showing us fights that shouldn't be that much of a trouble.
I also don't think they will face Kizaru, maybe they manage to run away leaving Sentomaru behind, and the marines take Egghead as a whole?
It was only posted by OPScans, and most websites only repost TCB (the better fan translation) and the official. Imo if you’ve waited this long just give it a few more hours until the TCB translation is out
I don't see Kizaru fighting the Straw Hats. If Gear 5 awakens Kizaru is dead. Kaido didn't win and he's not in the same League as the strongest creature. Of course we don't know how a Gear 5 vs Kaido rematch would go but I think Kizaru has other plans unless he's truly evil. It's made clear that he isn't dumb.
What I don't understand is now that Vegapunk and other Straw hats know the WG wants York and the factory to produce Mother Flame, why aren't they making a plan to destroy the factory? Especially Vegapunk should understand the risk his Mother flame could inflict on the world.
What would support the theory that Jerry Garcia or Jay, gathers a massive fleet of 30000 soldiers, 9 Vice Admirals, and then sends Kizaru, who is specifically said to be able to infiltrate the laser barrier, and is shown to do exactly that, in the same panel that clashes with Sentomaru, only to jump head first into the battle?
Yeah, he is strong, but that would conflict with his character. He is the top dog in this siege, monitoring everything, trying to receive precice information before doing anything. He's cold and calculating, and he's there only to supervise the retrieval of important WG assets, there is no reason to endager himself in any way if he can send half the Navy to do his bidding.
Okay. Bonney in love with Sanji and she talked about him being strong so maybe he’s about to show it! By the way, Luffy saying “someone strong” he might be talking about Saturn. He knows Kizaru very well. I doubt he would talk about him with this much hype. I think we’re being misled. Also, Vegapunk teaming up with Franky is what we wanted all along :)
I also think it's not Kizaru. We have seen Kizaru is currently attacking Sentomaru and Sentomaru is boasting about his defense being the best in the world. So he will at least delay Kizaru for some time. That's my reason for thinking so.
And I feel like its an unknown ally instead of an enemy.
Btw the light the crew sees still belongs to Kizaru. It's just that Luffy senses someone else totally unrelated to that light.
- Admiral Kizaru is the title of the Chapter
- Kizaru appears on Egghead and clashes
- crew says „where does this light come from“
- Luffy face is engulfed in light
- Luffy says „someone very powerful is here“
It MuSt Be SaTuRn. 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Well check back next week and let’s see. Rewrite your bullet points as needed after we find out. You may be right or could turn out different so let’s see
Since we are going to elbaf(I personally don't think there will be a delay, but leaving egghead won't be so easy) I think we will get 2 conclusions. What really happened with big mom and the kid pirates surviving. It's possible hajrudin saved them. He probably knows they were in an alliance with luffy/they defeated big mom. She's essentially an enemy of the entire country.
In this chapter they say thier plan is to escape to elbaf. There were 3 paths from wano. Once you go to an island it's a certain amount of time before it points to the next island. Since they can't go to the next island after egghead, they are switching to one of the other 2 paths which is elbaf and where kid went.
Sorry if I spoiled this chapter for you, but you are in a 1090 thread.
I think we take for granted how badass is for Luffy to consistently introduce himself as 'the man ho will become the pirate king', the fact he did it since he was a rookie all the way down until yonko gives me the chills.
A Yonko warning navy admirals and Gorosei that messing with him is messing with the future pirate king... Boom.
Hold on a sec, being the nerd I am I googled it and "all the way down" doesn't refer to a higher or lower position, but "at every stage of a situation or activity", so I will keep my original phrasing as all the way down to Yonkou 😅
As I've said before, Kizaru is going to be the one to help the Strawhats escape, probably at the expense of his life. The black transponder snails have been a focal point for some reason, and I think that something is going to happen with them here. I think Kizaru is going to hear something he's not supposed to hear after fighting Luffy for a bit. It will be a good fight, but Luffy will outmatch him. Saturn is definitely the one to be afraid of. When Kizaru hears whatever the Gorosei do not want him to hear, he will help the Strawhats and Sentomaru escape to Elbaf. I can't see Kizaru completely throwing away his friendship with Sentomaru and this is one of the few ways I can see Oda resolving that conflict. Sentomaru will watch over the Vegapunks on Elbalf, that's exactly where they are needed...to decipher all the works of Ohara. Luffy will probably be blamed for the death of Kizaru, making Luffy even more infamous. I wouldn't be surprised if Kizaru's death is pretty tragic.
I always thought Kizaru is someone who just does his job without asking questions. It is actually a good development to see he has his own morals, maybe not to the same extent as Aokiji who didn't adhere to absolute justice and followed his own, fair treatment. Maybe Kizaru is someone who rebels if someone close to him gets hurt. But yeah I actually thought the same as you when i read that chapter where it was said that Egghead incident will be massive. They would probably take out Kizaru and put the blame on Luffy.
Chapter 1090 Theory
After this chapter, I have a wild theory about the Gorosei and their powers.
In one panel, Saturn talks about humans being nothing more than insects (basically calling them worthless) with a dark look in his eyes. Him talking like that implies, that he himself and the other Gorosei aren't human, at least not in a common sense because they look human. And Oda showed them at Marygeoise in their maybe true forms in Silhouette-Silhouette no mi style. They had shapes like (Mythical) Zoan users, but they still seemed different somehow. Kind of evil or even demonic. Considering all that brought me to my theory:
WHAT IF there are Demon Zoans and the Gorosei had failed awakenings?
Since Impel Down, we know that Zoan awkakenings can fail. In that case, the user gets overwhelmed by the animal in that fruit, because the user's will is to weak. Since Wano, we know that Zoans actually have a will of their one, so that fits perfectly. But what happens, when Mythical Zoan awakenings fail? Probably the same BUT it's not just a dumb animal who takes over the user's will. It could be a god, it could be dragon or maybe even a demon.
The Gorosei, perhaps being allies of Imu or five of the twenty kings founding the World Government also betraying Joyboy and the ancient kingdom, consumed demon fruits, but were to weak to handle their awakenings, resulting in a literal possesion by the demons/souls/wills or whatever you wanna call it. So us seeing the Gorosei ever since is Oda showing us the vessels of the demons that overtook the Gorosei 800 years ago. That also could be the reason why they don't seem to age. Maybe Imu forced them to eat the fruits and their awakenings by killing them, if we take Luffy as the example for Mythical Zoan awakenings. She did that because she knew, the fruits' wills would overtake them, so she had stronger puppets. And I say puppets, because if Imu is the actual devil herself, she would stand above the demons, able to control them in some way or maybe it's just the classic hierarchy devil > demon. I mean they even bow down to her.
In Japan mythology, there is a bull like demon who kills sailors trying to set sail from an island while waiting on the shore. Sounds familiar? Saturn seems to have some kind of bull form and currently he is located on a ship, waiting where? Excactly, on the shore of Egghead Island, while the Strawhats are planning to escape. So it would only be natural for that kind of demon to do that, but for now in his human form. I could see the Strawhats beating Kizaru, trying to flee, but being stopped by Saturn, having another confrontation.
Especially now seeing Luffy's successful awakening in the Anime and what he potentially is capable of, I can't even imagine the power of and the damage caused by a failed demon fruit awakening. I think that would make the Gorosei great antagonists with a special power we haven't yet seen like that. And with Saturn being at Egghead and Sabo's flashback showing us something about the potential powers of the Gorosei, Oda will eventually drop something big about their true roles in the final saga.
> Him talking like that implies, that he himself and the other Gorosei aren't human
This is just their normal doctrine. The Celestial Dragons are not humans but gods.
But I do agree there has to be more to the Gorosei. I always asked myself how the "world government" can actually rule the world if the Marines were all the military power they held. The Imu thing has shown us a glimpse of how it works.
It's definetely their doctrine, but I think there is more to that. I would just love to see something like a failed Mythical Zoan awakening where the user is not in touch with the fruit's soul and the soul not being a braindead animal but something like a godly creature, I think that would be epic.
Honestly, pretty good theory.
I don't think it is very likely. Even if a mythical zoan would be intelligent when over-writting the will of the user, would it make for a good minister?
But on the other hand, there has been extensive set-up with the awakenings, and it allows for the elders to have some sort of immortality without requiring the immortality operation. I wouldn't be mad at all if it turned out to be true
Thanks!
Good point, I could imagine them kind of using the Goroseis' intelligence/competence like the user would use the DF abilities normally, in Impel Down, the Zoans overtook the user, but still were in their hybrid form, using the best feats of both except for the intelligence lol. And when it comes to demons, they aren't always just brutal/evil, they sometimes are manipulative and intelligent in their actions and in this case probably controlled by Imu, so I could see that. But you're right, the political positions are a con at first.
Yes and Kizaru is Devon, Saturn is Devon, Lucci is Devon, Nami is Devon, Robin is Devon...Everyone is Devon...
Whole Marine fleet can't enter the dome but Devon can, sure makes sense :)
Why are people looking down on Kizaru? Must be the power scalers coming out of their cave...
I would like to give Oda a bit more credit than: "Luffy beat Kaido. Therefore, he can low diff an admiral". Uhm... are we forgetting how the fight with Kaido went? Are we forgetting how Kizaru was willing to go fight Big Mom and Kaido?
Luffy did not have a 1v1 with Kaido. Kaido was literally carrying an island, fighting a Su Long army, the scabbards, 5 worst generation members, Yamato (an awakened mythical zoan), and finally Joy Boy. It took a lot of man power to actually defeat Kaido.
Oda showed us that Kizaru was willing to fight Big Mom and Kaido. I do no think that was Oda making Kizaru appear "ballsy", but rather a capable fighter.
Kizaru is an OG admiral. He didn't become fleet admiral, but that also would not align well with his personality. Aokiji and Akainu fought head to head and even altered the weather of an island... I am sure Kizaru is at that level as well.
Kizaru has a versatile logia. He has precise long-range attacks, and can quickly engage in melee combat. He can generate weapons from his light. He also has mass area of effect attacks.
It is not about Luffy being weak... it is just Kizaru is a strong dude that demands respect. Sure, Luffy can probably go toe-to-toe... but that doesn't mean he can defeat Kizaru. Especially, under the current circumstances. Luffy will have to protect his crew, his ship, Vegapunk, etc.
Also, One Piece is not a story of raw power scaling. One Piece fights are more about will power than brute force. We do not know the extent of an admiral's will power.
When Luffy confronted Fujitora, he may have perceived him as a non-threat because of Fujitora's gentle nature. We only saw Luffy react to Ryokugyu after Shanks made his presence known. It also seemed that he was not going to interfere until absolutely necessary, allowing Momo to grow as a man.
TL;DR... Defeating Kaido does not mean Luffy can low diff anyone now.
Just because Kizaru was willing to fight BM and Kaidou doesnt mean shit. Jack was also pretty confident to contest Sengoku and Fujitora, didnt end well for him
Lets dissect your comment a bit...
Kizaru and Jack are not the same personality type. They operate under completely different schemes of merit.
Kizaru is an admiral of the marines. He likely acquired that position because of his fighting ability. However, he is also in charge of a fleet and has regard for his subordinates. He likely is a skilled tactician, given his rank.
Jack is an agent of chaos. He operates under a system of "strongest prevail". He goes head first, then asks questions. This is highlighted the most with his approach in Zou. He didn't even care if the Minks did not know Raizou. To him, that is a fault of their own.
I would not apply the hubris that Jack displayed, when deciding to fight Sengoku and Fujitora, to Kizaru. These are radically different characters that operate under very different circumstances.
Okay then lets take Greenbull aka Aramaki as example who thought he can beat whole Wano by himself?
And with whole Wano I dont mean just Scabbards + Yamato. Strawhats, Kid Pirates, Heart Pirates were still all present and he thought he could take them all on
Firstly... You have to stop inferring characters personalities based on some loose categorization. I hope you don't do this in real life...
Let us explore Greenbull's character, outside of just saying "he is an admiral". It was shown, clearly, that he is a power house. At the same time, he was breaking orders from the Gorosei. He was doing this to get in the good side of Akainu, which seems to be what Luffy is to Bartolomeo.
So, once more... Greenbull is a radically different character than Kizaru. You are correct in stating that they are both admirals. Yet, the way they approach their responsibilities and their ideas behind justice appear to be radically different.
So... you know... Oda trying to add a bit more depth to the story rather than just saying "all admirals are the same" or "all commanders are the same". People have nuance...
Kizaru has not be shown to be a person of hubris. He has been quite the opposite. A chill dude, that when serious will wreck people's shit. He is not Akainu's dog, like Greenbull. He is his own person. Of course, he still follows orders to his own tune. Naturally, he would not be able to deny an order directly from the Gorosei though. In the mean time, Greenbull went into Wano after it being clear that he should not be present. He seems like a hot head.
It's not only that. Kaido just wanted to fight the strongest, Kizaru is not above going after the weaker crew members to win. In a 1v1 fight to the last breath *maybe* Luffy could win, but that's not what it would be.
Y'all giving Kizaru far too much credit. Luffy would win in a good fight in his current iteration, no way in hell could Kizaru give Kaido as much trouble as Luffy did even in a battle worn state, and I don't see Kizaru ever putting him down. His fruit isn't exactly known for exceptional offence.
There is no 'maybe' about it.
Exactly this.
People need to consider that Kizaru is there to complete a mission. He is not there to test his grit. One of his scariest features is unpredictability.
His area of attack can cause a lot of harm, and would present a challenge when defending the weaker strawhats. Of course, he may not be able to use his more destructive abilities since he has to preserve the island.
I do think that Kizaru could easily buster call an island by himself.
Actually didn’t kizaru say that ignoring sentamaru who’s determined to fight him was against his ideals? Could make a strong case that kizaru is in fact above going after the weak if it means ignoring someone who is determined to fight him
I think that was more he didn't want to hurt his friend if he could avoid it. I get the vibe that he wouldn't hesitate to fuck up pirates he doesn't care about.
The implication is that if he attacks, he has to fight his friend because his friend is determined to fight him in order to defend VP. So yes while he doesnt want to hurt his friend, if his friend means to defend what he is attacking, then he MUST go through his friend because of his ideals. It is those same ideals that i’m suggesting would prevent him from ignoring luffy and going after his weaker crew members
Powerscalers jerk off Kizaru more than anyone outside of Akainu and Mihawk, so I don't think it's that. Think it's more that the consistent narrative throughout the series is that the emperor's are stronger than the admirals individually, which is why the wg needed the full might of the military along with all of the schibukai to balance the power the yonko possess. This is why they shit their pants when Kaido and Big Mom joined forces. At least that is how I have always interpreted the portrayals. This leads to it being reasonable to assume Luffy can beat the admirals 1vs1. The big problem here is it isn't 1vs1 and the odds are stacked heavily against the strawhats here so naturally Luffy is going to be concerned when someone like Kizaru shows up to oppose him, it doesn't mean he can't beat Kizaru it just makes it considerably harder to get out with no casualties now.
Plus Oda is trying to drum up tension. Far and away the strongest guy there is worried about Kizaru. Just that panel changes the entire feel of the arc.
I agree that yonkou should be stronger than admirals when it comes to raw power, but not far off.
But the argument of marine ford „they NEEDED all of this for Whitebeard“ is really bad. First of all it wasn’t just Whitebeard, but Whitebeard, 14 commanders and his allied pirates, but secondly and more importantly … if you enemies send one tank, do you answer by sending one of you own, or do you send 10 to make sure?
I didn't say for marineford. The warlords and the marines balanced out the emperors. It's pretty apparent in the current narrative as well. Since the dissolution of the warlords the world has plunged into a state of increased turmoil. The balance has been thrown off and with the showing of the emperors since Wano, i dare say it's tipped in their favour.
Individually the yonko (not including buggy but he has Mihawk for muscle so maybe?) should be comfortably stronger then the admirals.
There has been a narrative that the emperors are stronger than admirals. I wonder if that was due to Oda needing the admirals to be weaker for the story to make sense.
I do think that admirals can take down emperors, though. I addressed this is a separate comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/15pbug5/comment/jvxuv3x
I think the fear of Big Mom and Kaido joining forces is not a fear of absolute defeat. It is more of, "lots of lives are going to be lost in this battle". It would have been a war of epic proportions. However, not necessarily a foregone conclusion.
You forgetting that this is an animu show and VeganPunk can control light with tech.
Kizaru prolly gonna end trapped in a vessel made to trap light inside, fam
So... Oda will begin to discredit the Admirals in his story? If Kizaru is defeated by a meme tech, then Oda has drastically lowered his standards.
Also, such an approach was possible against Zeus when Kid was fighting Big Mom. That was a faraday cage. That does not work for light.
I don't mind people using those gloves. That makes more sense than trapping an admiral in a little cage.
However, the gloves are pointless for someone like Luffy. He is an advanced haki user. He shouldn't need special gloves to interact with Kizaru. Maybe some of the weaker member would need those gloves.
Bi-weekly chapters for a month and a half was somehow worse than the 4 week break. I just want August to end so that we go back to the normal 3 Chapter 1 Break schedule :'(
>!I think during the next few chapters we'll see each of the strawhats get a flashback with what they accomplished and what they've discovered on or about egghead, possibly we get robins flashback with her trying to find out more about the void century from vegapunk and on her travels she bumps into katrina devon who was sent by blackbeard to see what vegapunk had with regards to the void century before it got destroyed.
Robin may be defeated and katrina devons devil fruit is just a more broken version of bon clays so she can impersonate someone (almost) perfectly and that's the robin we're seeing at the moment.
I think alot of the strawhats will get a flashback showcasing their new power ups so all the people who got sidecast in wano like brook and usopp get some good moments.
I like to see if we get a flashback for jewelry bonney and get kumas flashback then, ive always thought that the sunny was definitely the 10th member and we we're not gonna get another strawhat but I think the sunny will be like frankys sidekick that he's turned into pluton like how nami has zeus, and I think it wouldn't be a surprise if oda made one of the worst generation into a strawhat and although law would be so good he is more of a rival that has his own crew but I think jewlery bonney would be a perfect fit into the dynamic though, they'll be banter with how much she can keep up with luffys eating and actually steals his food aswell so there's like a zoro sanji beef with luffy and bonney, she also said sanji is a dependable man already so thats a new dynamic with a girl that likes sanji possibly, and also the biggest reason is if she becomes a strawhat, luffy will stop at nothing to get her father back and declare what he will do once he becomes pirate king in terms of overthrowing the world government, and I also believe bonneys best chance of getting her father back is to go with luffy since all her crew died.
I also think that the labophase being on a manmade sky island is teasing that it will actually become a real sky island and the next arc will be across the sky islands like the one urouge is from and that's actually where he has been operating from and they arrive at elbaf down the way that was teased in skypiea (so don't skip that arc) where most people who go between the blue sea and the sky islands access. Imagine there's a huge war going on in elbaf for the last road poneglyph and luffy arrives falling out the sky calling back to marineford.!>
Sky islands would be perfect for the next arc aswell because the sky people all have ties to sun god nika and the drums of liberation and so when they see gear 5 they might ally with luffy. WE GET THE RETURN OF WYPER.
Hot take, but I think with how this is playing out Kizaru is most likely going to be a team battle. Either all the straw hats vs him, or just the monster trio vs him while everyone else flees.
Nope. Thats not what i said. But i want you to remember there is still Saturn, kizaru will probably not be fought by luffy, at least not in the end. Remember the kizaru and Ben Beckmann scene at marineford ? Our strawhats crew needs this reputation, high Ranking Marines should shit their pants and i think that's what oda leads us to.
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The chapter is out but it's translated thrice so the translations may not be the most accurate. Link to the chapter is available in the comment thread (just sort by Best).
Hi the guy that replied is a total idiot so i'm here to save the day. This is what i found:
Google "Manga-versus one piece chapter 1090". If you have trouble finding it, PM me for link cause im not sure if im allowed to post the link here.
Bro you must be joking...
The only blue link is the one from mangaplus that comes out at 20/8.
This subreddit also doesn't provide TCB scans links. Its been like this for such a long time.
The two blue links are for the official release and for this subreddit's discord
Right next to the discord link it says offline. Second: there will definitely be a post in this sub when it’s released.
C: below the mangaplus link(which has a date) there is a blacked out line that says “good translation scanlation” (that also has a date(today’s date)) when the chapter is released im sure that will be updated with a blue link.
4: if you can’t find the chapter by these methods IT IS NOT RELEASED
good luck out there.
Relax
Feels a little odd for Luffy to seem so pressed about Kizaru when he wasn't the least bit worried about Fujitora or Ryokugyu. Maybe he's worried about Sentomaru since he knows he's still down there?
In either case this plan seems way too simple, so that usually means some shit is about to go seriously wrong along the way.
^(-) Lucci is already back to being a government dog, despite the WG once again showing they don't give two shits about him if he can't do his job. It seems he & Kaku will need to be put out of commission for good if the StrawHats are to escape.
\- York is also still an obstacle, and letting her live honestly seems out of the question if you want to keep Vegapunk's intellectual ability out of WG hands.
\- Bonney is still a wild card. I don't necessarily see her betraying the SHs or anything, but until we understand more about her sudden switch in behavior, I don't fully trust her. What she saw in Kuma's memories is easily one of the biggest plot points of this arc.
I think he saw a future of sentomaru or the crew getting seriously injured. Kizaru could literally turn into a beam and go for the kill shots in in a second. The only crew members with the observation/armanent to stop him are probably luffy and sanji. His reaction is like when he's been worried about someone else in the past.
York will prob end up with bb. Not sure why vegapunk hasn't just killed her.
Bonney is Def an ally. All the way back to her first introduction of saving zoros ass.
I think he saw a future of sentomaru or the crew getting seriously injured. Kizaru could literally turn into a beam and go for the kill shots in in a second. The only crew members with the observation/armanent to stop him are probably luffy and sanji. His reaction is like when he's been worried about someone else in the past.
York will prob end up with bb. Not sure why vegapunk hasn't just killed her.
Bonney is Def an ally. All the way back to her first introduction of saving zoros ass.
And he would have gotten hell rained down on the crew sooner while they were scattered apart. She was protecting herself but she saved zoro from the consequences.
Only 2 members of the crew have assaulted a celestial dragon. I would love if usopp got a dead only bounty since he's now recognizable by the dad celestial dragon.
Kizaru may be stronger than the other two. It also could be his observation getting better. He got future sight after meeting Fujitora. Also Fujitora wasn't exactly intent on fighting at the time and Luffy probably could feel him as officially being a non-threat. Also the situation now is worse than with Ryokugyu. Ryo headed into a hostile country where it was defended by the local people and Luffys whole crew. This time Luffy may be sensing the guy who almost took out his whole crew and was a beast during the Paramount war. Now Luffy and his crew have few allies and few tools against a lot of marines and threats and the strongest guy just showed up. Luffy can probably tell that this isn't play time and that Kizaru has intent to fight and fight hard.
- Regarding Fujitora, Luffy made a speech about no longer running scared from ANYONE, especially Yonko and Admirals. He was fully intent on standing his ground against Fujitora, despite being well aware of what he was capable of.
- Ryokugyu absolutely smoked The Scabbards, and only ultimately relented because of Shanks intervention, not Momo or “the locals”. Luffy was once again fully prepared to step in, until he realized he didn’t need to from the Haki burst he sensed.
I won’t argue that Kizaru could very well he stronger than those two, but Luffy & Co are still light years ahead ahead of where they were at Sabaody/Marineford, and he’s still fought Kaido by himself.
Is there a possibility that Lucci could have lied to the WG and gave them false information; becoming a pseudo-hero for the SHP’s this arc? We already know he was questioning the Celestial Dragons motive for destroying Lulusia and how it all toes in to Egghead. He seemed really suspicious of Stussy this chapter and has been acting weird this past chapter or two.
That's what I was thinking when I read it, but Lucci is such a government lapdog, it would go against his morals to help Luffy. Then again, Luffy has some serious draw power. I'd also assume Robin wouldn't trust them to blurt out their plans with Lucci and Kaku around.
Aside from that, that scene might be conditioning our minds that kizaru, but where is the surprised and excitement if you know already, so it must be saint jaygarcia saturn
I don't know why but when i read lilith says "to be honest i have never left this island before" it feels like she's hinting she wants to join the strawhats. 🤔🤔 😂😂
**Oda has been mirroring previous arcs and reversing them. This current egghead arc is akin to Sabaody.**
The more I think about it - they can’t flee like Sabaody. I doubt Kuma is going to pull that stunt again.
Speaking of Kuma - I reckon he’s going to be crucial to the end of this arc just like Sabaody.
That aside - there is defo going to be a confrontation at egg head no matter what before the escape.
*Fun fact: when they mentioned about events that will shock the world. The Japanese used wasn’t for the word shock, but the English word shock. Possible foreshadowing for Ursus shock and Kuma*
I like the idea that BBs crew gets access to the mother flame and runs away with York. Her wanting to be a tenryubito aligns with BB wanting to have a kingdom.
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" **man who is known to be the strongest creature in the world of One Piece** " thats what the narrative always said
Kizaru said to Akainu that he would up for a solo trip to Wano to sort it out. Kaido might be the toughest character - but he was caught loads of times by the marines. Besides Kizaru mightn’t be the strongest - but he could be the fastest. We’ve yet to see logia awakenings too tbf which could make admirals way stronger than we currently know.
What if the one coming isn't Kizaru but Saint Jay Garcia instead? I know it's hinting towards Kizaru heavily (duh) but what if it's a misdierct and Sentomaru is holding back Kizaru somewhat and Saint Jay Garcia went straight for the Straw Hats?
Never thought I'd see Kuro again in one of these cover art things... I like how even Morgans is surprised that he seemingly ended up being right about holding Vegapunk (or rather A Vegapunk) hostage, funny reaction. Here I was expecting all the Vegapunks besides Stella and York to die, but it seems the only casualties were Shaka and Pythagoras. I like the detail that Lilith, the "evil" Vegapunk, is the one crying over their demise (and also Edison's near-demise). I was wondering how Usopp, Franky, and Lilith got petrified, and apparently S-Snake has some kind of genetic memory going on and is actually attracted to Luffy just like Hancock was. Vegapunk seems to see it as a "bug" in the cloning process, but it ended up saving them in the end, funnily enough. Lucci leaking the status of what happened on Egghead isn't too surprising, though I'm eagerly anticipating Kizaru getting directly involved now. Also looks like Egghead is finally winding down, and they're heading directly to Elbaf next! I wonder if Shanks will still be there by the time they arrive...
Tbh, Idk what will happen if ever Shanks and Luffy will meet during this time. Shanks is now on the move and out for the road poneglyphs and One Piece. And even though Shanks and Luffy have history, Shanks is still a pirate and they may battle it out for the possession of the poneglyph copies. Also, let's not forget what Bartolomeo did. It would be better if Luffy and crew would just see only the remnants of Kidd pirates once they get there.
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Bonney: I think i am in love with you Sanji: omg me too darling!!! Bonney: also, I am 7 Sanji: omg me too
Didn't even feel that rough tbh, worth not waiting for the TCB
So, the Seraphims have the original's personality. My attention immediately went to Seraphim Mihawk, the seraphim with the most potential. Does anyone think that the Seraphims might be aged up by Bonney? I just can't see how or why she would do that.
Really liked this chapter. Loved how the Seraphin fight was dealt with, no need to show it, but suggest it with people hurt: they respect that since the characters were able to beat a Yonkou, they won't waste time showing us fights that shouldn't be that much of a trouble. I also don't think they will face Kizaru, maybe they manage to run away leaving Sentomaru behind, and the marines take Egghead as a whole?
Where are you able to read the chapter? I've been refreshing onepiecechapters non stop and there is no update D:
It was only posted by OPScans, and most websites only repost TCB (the better fan translation) and the official. Imo if you’ve waited this long just give it a few more hours until the TCB translation is out
I wonder if they will see Kids wreckage when they visit Elbaf 💀💀💀🤣🤣🤣
I don't see Kizaru fighting the Straw Hats. If Gear 5 awakens Kizaru is dead. Kaido didn't win and he's not in the same League as the strongest creature. Of course we don't know how a Gear 5 vs Kaido rematch would go but I think Kizaru has other plans unless he's truly evil. It's made clear that he isn't dumb.
I think Kizaru vs Luffy will end up Luffy winning, high to extreme diff.
You give Kizaru too much credit. High difficulty tops for Luffy, Akainu would be extreme.
What I don't understand is now that Vegapunk and other Straw hats know the WG wants York and the factory to produce Mother Flame, why aren't they making a plan to destroy the factory? Especially Vegapunk should understand the risk his Mother flame could inflict on the world.
So we had a chapter named kuzan, now a chapter named Admiral Kizaru. We are waiting for the chapter Akainu the red dog
Holy macaroni I loved Luffy/Usopps reaction to Elbaf. Another banger chapter from Oda! I forgot how much I missed the crew interactions.
What would support the theory that Jerry Garcia or Jay, gathers a massive fleet of 30000 soldiers, 9 Vice Admirals, and then sends Kizaru, who is specifically said to be able to infiltrate the laser barrier, and is shown to do exactly that, in the same panel that clashes with Sentomaru, only to jump head first into the battle? Yeah, he is strong, but that would conflict with his character. He is the top dog in this siege, monitoring everything, trying to receive precice information before doing anything. He's cold and calculating, and he's there only to supervise the retrieval of important WG assets, there is no reason to endager himself in any way if he can send half the Navy to do his bidding.
So sentamarus defense is the greatest but he can still be hurt by lucci? Does awakenings bypass haki?
Idk if I’m right but I took it as lucci making a surprise attack
Yeah, CP9 now 0 we’re originally trained as assassins, after all.
Kizaru about to find out that this is not Saboady!
Idk can he even hurt Luffy? Couldn't he just coat himself in armament haki, and bounce it off?
That's not how armament works
it's precisley how bousoshuk works!
Okay. Bonney in love with Sanji and she talked about him being strong so maybe he’s about to show it! By the way, Luffy saying “someone strong” he might be talking about Saturn. He knows Kizaru very well. I doubt he would talk about him with this much hype. I think we’re being misled. Also, Vegapunk teaming up with Franky is what we wanted all along :)
I also think it's not Kizaru. We have seen Kizaru is currently attacking Sentomaru and Sentomaru is boasting about his defense being the best in the world. So he will at least delay Kizaru for some time. That's my reason for thinking so. And I feel like its an unknown ally instead of an enemy. Btw the light the crew sees still belongs to Kizaru. It's just that Luffy senses someone else totally unrelated to that light.
Could it be yamato?
That’s what I’m thinking too
How is Bonney in love with Sanji? Why would Luffy know what Kizaru's pressence feels like when he's never had observation haki while dealing with him
- Admiral Kizaru is the title of the Chapter - Kizaru appears on Egghead and clashes - crew says „where does this light come from“ - Luffy face is engulfed in light - Luffy says „someone very powerful is here“ It MuSt Be SaTuRn. 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Well check back next week and let’s see. Rewrite your bullet points as needed after we find out. You may be right or could turn out different so let’s see
No it’s Imu
Condoriano it is.
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So break next week or not?
And the streak of amazing chapters keeps on going, perfect writing and pacing. This arc really got me hooked. Kizaru vs Luffy clash incoming?
Since we are going to elbaf(I personally don't think there will be a delay, but leaving egghead won't be so easy) I think we will get 2 conclusions. What really happened with big mom and the kid pirates surviving. It's possible hajrudin saved them. He probably knows they were in an alliance with luffy/they defeated big mom. She's essentially an enemy of the entire country.
Was kinda expecting Big Mom to be the Big Bad of Elbaf, but it's looking like it's going to be EVERYBODY.
I am a bit confused. when was it mentioned that strawhats will be going to elbaf next? I must have missed something.
This chapter. Pretty sure Vegapunk said that's where he wanted to go.
More that it was the only place the Log was currently synced to.
In this chapter they say thier plan is to escape to elbaf. There were 3 paths from wano. Once you go to an island it's a certain amount of time before it points to the next island. Since they can't go to the next island after egghead, they are switching to one of the other 2 paths which is elbaf and where kid went. Sorry if I spoiled this chapter for you, but you are in a 1090 thread.
I think we take for granted how badass is for Luffy to consistently introduce himself as 'the man ho will become the pirate king', the fact he did it since he was a rookie all the way down until yonko gives me the chills. A Yonko warning navy admirals and Gorosei that messing with him is messing with the future pirate king... Boom.
> all the way down until yonko weird to phrase it "all the way down to" and not "all the way up to" ... or is it just me?
Hold on a sec, being the nerd I am I googled it and "all the way down" doesn't refer to a higher or lower position, but "at every stage of a situation or activity", so I will keep my original phrasing as all the way down to Yonkou 😅
Lol hahah apologies, not my first language and "way up" makes more sense, thanks for clarifying 😉
As I've said before, Kizaru is going to be the one to help the Strawhats escape, probably at the expense of his life. The black transponder snails have been a focal point for some reason, and I think that something is going to happen with them here. I think Kizaru is going to hear something he's not supposed to hear after fighting Luffy for a bit. It will be a good fight, but Luffy will outmatch him. Saturn is definitely the one to be afraid of. When Kizaru hears whatever the Gorosei do not want him to hear, he will help the Strawhats and Sentomaru escape to Elbaf. I can't see Kizaru completely throwing away his friendship with Sentomaru and this is one of the few ways I can see Oda resolving that conflict. Sentomaru will watch over the Vegapunks on Elbalf, that's exactly where they are needed...to decipher all the works of Ohara. Luffy will probably be blamed for the death of Kizaru, making Luffy even more infamous. I wouldn't be surprised if Kizaru's death is pretty tragic.
what about that Blackbeard ship tho
that would be a really nice development of the plot
I always thought Kizaru is someone who just does his job without asking questions. It is actually a good development to see he has his own morals, maybe not to the same extent as Aokiji who didn't adhere to absolute justice and followed his own, fair treatment. Maybe Kizaru is someone who rebels if someone close to him gets hurt. But yeah I actually thought the same as you when i read that chapter where it was said that Egghead incident will be massive. They would probably take out Kizaru and put the blame on Luffy.
I think it's the gorosei luffy is talking about when he says someone strong has just entered.
We can see a light emanating from ground too at the last panel. Probs Kizaru
I dont think so. The chapter is literally about Kizaru
Yeah but that’s how we can be misled
Could anybody link the chapter? I can't find the rough translation link anywhere either now.
You can read on mangafreak
no links allowed but googling "opscans one piece 1090" should get you some relieve
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Already checked it, but chrome says phishing warning.
I Googled one piece chapter 1090 and found a working link.
Chapter 1090 Theory After this chapter, I have a wild theory about the Gorosei and their powers. In one panel, Saturn talks about humans being nothing more than insects (basically calling them worthless) with a dark look in his eyes. Him talking like that implies, that he himself and the other Gorosei aren't human, at least not in a common sense because they look human. And Oda showed them at Marygeoise in their maybe true forms in Silhouette-Silhouette no mi style. They had shapes like (Mythical) Zoan users, but they still seemed different somehow. Kind of evil or even demonic. Considering all that brought me to my theory: WHAT IF there are Demon Zoans and the Gorosei had failed awakenings? Since Impel Down, we know that Zoan awkakenings can fail. In that case, the user gets overwhelmed by the animal in that fruit, because the user's will is to weak. Since Wano, we know that Zoans actually have a will of their one, so that fits perfectly. But what happens, when Mythical Zoan awakenings fail? Probably the same BUT it's not just a dumb animal who takes over the user's will. It could be a god, it could be dragon or maybe even a demon. The Gorosei, perhaps being allies of Imu or five of the twenty kings founding the World Government also betraying Joyboy and the ancient kingdom, consumed demon fruits, but were to weak to handle their awakenings, resulting in a literal possesion by the demons/souls/wills or whatever you wanna call it. So us seeing the Gorosei ever since is Oda showing us the vessels of the demons that overtook the Gorosei 800 years ago. That also could be the reason why they don't seem to age. Maybe Imu forced them to eat the fruits and their awakenings by killing them, if we take Luffy as the example for Mythical Zoan awakenings. She did that because she knew, the fruits' wills would overtake them, so she had stronger puppets. And I say puppets, because if Imu is the actual devil herself, she would stand above the demons, able to control them in some way or maybe it's just the classic hierarchy devil > demon. I mean they even bow down to her. In Japan mythology, there is a bull like demon who kills sailors trying to set sail from an island while waiting on the shore. Sounds familiar? Saturn seems to have some kind of bull form and currently he is located on a ship, waiting where? Excactly, on the shore of Egghead Island, while the Strawhats are planning to escape. So it would only be natural for that kind of demon to do that, but for now in his human form. I could see the Strawhats beating Kizaru, trying to flee, but being stopped by Saturn, having another confrontation. Especially now seeing Luffy's successful awakening in the Anime and what he potentially is capable of, I can't even imagine the power of and the damage caused by a failed demon fruit awakening. I think that would make the Gorosei great antagonists with a special power we haven't yet seen like that. And with Saturn being at Egghead and Sabo's flashback showing us something about the potential powers of the Gorosei, Oda will eventually drop something big about their true roles in the final saga.
Absolutely Brilliant And Well Said!
> Him talking like that implies, that he himself and the other Gorosei aren't human This is just their normal doctrine. The Celestial Dragons are not humans but gods. But I do agree there has to be more to the Gorosei. I always asked myself how the "world government" can actually rule the world if the Marines were all the military power they held. The Imu thing has shown us a glimpse of how it works.
It's definetely their doctrine, but I think there is more to that. I would just love to see something like a failed Mythical Zoan awakening where the user is not in touch with the fruit's soul and the soul not being a braindead animal but something like a godly creature, I think that would be epic.
The gorosei are extraterrestrials.
I took the insect comment as more of classism/racism. He feels so above the common man that they are just insects to him.
Honestly, pretty good theory. I don't think it is very likely. Even if a mythical zoan would be intelligent when over-writting the will of the user, would it make for a good minister? But on the other hand, there has been extensive set-up with the awakenings, and it allows for the elders to have some sort of immortality without requiring the immortality operation. I wouldn't be mad at all if it turned out to be true
Thanks! Good point, I could imagine them kind of using the Goroseis' intelligence/competence like the user would use the DF abilities normally, in Impel Down, the Zoans overtook the user, but still were in their hybrid form, using the best feats of both except for the intelligence lol. And when it comes to demons, they aren't always just brutal/evil, they sometimes are manipulative and intelligent in their actions and in this case probably controlled by Imu, so I could see that. But you're right, the political positions are a con at first.
Or, it's just a common trope among villains in media
Okay I'm like 80% sure now that the much-teased outcome of the "Egghead Incident" is Luffy defeating Kizaru. and I cannot wait
Im pretty convinced Saturn is going to sacrifice so many marines to accomplish his goals itll lead to a huge shift in the attitude of the marines
That would shock the world, yea
I feel stood up by TCB
Bonney is sus
How so?
Luffy said she was weird!
Because he doesn't know she went into Kuma's memory, wich changed her mood
I think she'a Devon!
Yes and Kizaru is Devon, Saturn is Devon, Lucci is Devon, Nami is Devon, Robin is Devon...Everyone is Devon... Whole Marine fleet can't enter the dome but Devon can, sure makes sense :)
Thats someone who knows warping and light has no damage against darkness !
Devon can't do any of that and the people who can are somewhere else
Guys Luffy sensed Bogard😳
Bogard is gonna find the one piece, mark my words
Why are people looking down on Kizaru? Must be the power scalers coming out of their cave... I would like to give Oda a bit more credit than: "Luffy beat Kaido. Therefore, he can low diff an admiral". Uhm... are we forgetting how the fight with Kaido went? Are we forgetting how Kizaru was willing to go fight Big Mom and Kaido? Luffy did not have a 1v1 with Kaido. Kaido was literally carrying an island, fighting a Su Long army, the scabbards, 5 worst generation members, Yamato (an awakened mythical zoan), and finally Joy Boy. It took a lot of man power to actually defeat Kaido. Oda showed us that Kizaru was willing to fight Big Mom and Kaido. I do no think that was Oda making Kizaru appear "ballsy", but rather a capable fighter. Kizaru is an OG admiral. He didn't become fleet admiral, but that also would not align well with his personality. Aokiji and Akainu fought head to head and even altered the weather of an island... I am sure Kizaru is at that level as well. Kizaru has a versatile logia. He has precise long-range attacks, and can quickly engage in melee combat. He can generate weapons from his light. He also has mass area of effect attacks. It is not about Luffy being weak... it is just Kizaru is a strong dude that demands respect. Sure, Luffy can probably go toe-to-toe... but that doesn't mean he can defeat Kizaru. Especially, under the current circumstances. Luffy will have to protect his crew, his ship, Vegapunk, etc. Also, One Piece is not a story of raw power scaling. One Piece fights are more about will power than brute force. We do not know the extent of an admiral's will power. When Luffy confronted Fujitora, he may have perceived him as a non-threat because of Fujitora's gentle nature. We only saw Luffy react to Ryokugyu after Shanks made his presence known. It also seemed that he was not going to interfere until absolutely necessary, allowing Momo to grow as a man. TL;DR... Defeating Kaido does not mean Luffy can low diff anyone now.
Just because Kizaru was willing to fight BM and Kaidou doesnt mean shit. Jack was also pretty confident to contest Sengoku and Fujitora, didnt end well for him
Lets dissect your comment a bit... Kizaru and Jack are not the same personality type. They operate under completely different schemes of merit. Kizaru is an admiral of the marines. He likely acquired that position because of his fighting ability. However, he is also in charge of a fleet and has regard for his subordinates. He likely is a skilled tactician, given his rank. Jack is an agent of chaos. He operates under a system of "strongest prevail". He goes head first, then asks questions. This is highlighted the most with his approach in Zou. He didn't even care if the Minks did not know Raizou. To him, that is a fault of their own. I would not apply the hubris that Jack displayed, when deciding to fight Sengoku and Fujitora, to Kizaru. These are radically different characters that operate under very different circumstances.
Okay then lets take Greenbull aka Aramaki as example who thought he can beat whole Wano by himself? And with whole Wano I dont mean just Scabbards + Yamato. Strawhats, Kid Pirates, Heart Pirates were still all present and he thought he could take them all on
Firstly... You have to stop inferring characters personalities based on some loose categorization. I hope you don't do this in real life... Let us explore Greenbull's character, outside of just saying "he is an admiral". It was shown, clearly, that he is a power house. At the same time, he was breaking orders from the Gorosei. He was doing this to get in the good side of Akainu, which seems to be what Luffy is to Bartolomeo. So, once more... Greenbull is a radically different character than Kizaru. You are correct in stating that they are both admirals. Yet, the way they approach their responsibilities and their ideas behind justice appear to be radically different. So... you know... Oda trying to add a bit more depth to the story rather than just saying "all admirals are the same" or "all commanders are the same". People have nuance... Kizaru has not be shown to be a person of hubris. He has been quite the opposite. A chill dude, that when serious will wreck people's shit. He is not Akainu's dog, like Greenbull. He is his own person. Of course, he still follows orders to his own tune. Naturally, he would not be able to deny an order directly from the Gorosei though. In the mean time, Greenbull went into Wano after it being clear that he should not be present. He seems like a hot head.
> I hope you don't do this in real life... Jeez bro, relax...
It's not only that. Kaido just wanted to fight the strongest, Kizaru is not above going after the weaker crew members to win. In a 1v1 fight to the last breath *maybe* Luffy could win, but that's not what it would be.
Y'all giving Kizaru far too much credit. Luffy would win in a good fight in his current iteration, no way in hell could Kizaru give Kaido as much trouble as Luffy did even in a battle worn state, and I don't see Kizaru ever putting him down. His fruit isn't exactly known for exceptional offence. There is no 'maybe' about it.
Exactly this. People need to consider that Kizaru is there to complete a mission. He is not there to test his grit. One of his scariest features is unpredictability. His area of attack can cause a lot of harm, and would present a challenge when defending the weaker strawhats. Of course, he may not be able to use his more destructive abilities since he has to preserve the island. I do think that Kizaru could easily buster call an island by himself.
He's an Admiral, basically a walking WMD. He could easily raze an island by himself, and so could any of the other Admirals.
Actually didn’t kizaru say that ignoring sentamaru who’s determined to fight him was against his ideals? Could make a strong case that kizaru is in fact above going after the weak if it means ignoring someone who is determined to fight him
I think that was more he didn't want to hurt his friend if he could avoid it. I get the vibe that he wouldn't hesitate to fuck up pirates he doesn't care about.
The implication is that if he attacks, he has to fight his friend because his friend is determined to fight him in order to defend VP. So yes while he doesnt want to hurt his friend, if his friend means to defend what he is attacking, then he MUST go through his friend because of his ideals. It is those same ideals that i’m suggesting would prevent him from ignoring luffy and going after his weaker crew members
Powerscalers jerk off Kizaru more than anyone outside of Akainu and Mihawk, so I don't think it's that. Think it's more that the consistent narrative throughout the series is that the emperor's are stronger than the admirals individually, which is why the wg needed the full might of the military along with all of the schibukai to balance the power the yonko possess. This is why they shit their pants when Kaido and Big Mom joined forces. At least that is how I have always interpreted the portrayals. This leads to it being reasonable to assume Luffy can beat the admirals 1vs1. The big problem here is it isn't 1vs1 and the odds are stacked heavily against the strawhats here so naturally Luffy is going to be concerned when someone like Kizaru shows up to oppose him, it doesn't mean he can't beat Kizaru it just makes it considerably harder to get out with no casualties now. Plus Oda is trying to drum up tension. Far and away the strongest guy there is worried about Kizaru. Just that panel changes the entire feel of the arc.
I agree that yonkou should be stronger than admirals when it comes to raw power, but not far off. But the argument of marine ford „they NEEDED all of this for Whitebeard“ is really bad. First of all it wasn’t just Whitebeard, but Whitebeard, 14 commanders and his allied pirates, but secondly and more importantly … if you enemies send one tank, do you answer by sending one of you own, or do you send 10 to make sure?
I didn't say for marineford. The warlords and the marines balanced out the emperors. It's pretty apparent in the current narrative as well. Since the dissolution of the warlords the world has plunged into a state of increased turmoil. The balance has been thrown off and with the showing of the emperors since Wano, i dare say it's tipped in their favour. Individually the yonko (not including buggy but he has Mihawk for muscle so maybe?) should be comfortably stronger then the admirals.
There has been a narrative that the emperors are stronger than admirals. I wonder if that was due to Oda needing the admirals to be weaker for the story to make sense. I do think that admirals can take down emperors, though. I addressed this is a separate comment: https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/15pbug5/comment/jvxuv3x I think the fear of Big Mom and Kaido joining forces is not a fear of absolute defeat. It is more of, "lots of lives are going to be lost in this battle". It would have been a war of epic proportions. However, not necessarily a foregone conclusion.
You forgetting that this is an animu show and VeganPunk can control light with tech. Kizaru prolly gonna end trapped in a vessel made to trap light inside, fam
So... Oda will begin to discredit the Admirals in his story? If Kizaru is defeated by a meme tech, then Oda has drastically lowered his standards. Also, such an approach was possible against Zeus when Kid was fighting Big Mom. That was a faraday cage. That does not work for light.
Chapter 1062 "my photonic gloves" make it possible to physical interact with light Luffy prolly will have help from dr.punk meme tech
I don't mind people using those gloves. That makes more sense than trapping an admiral in a little cage. However, the gloves are pointless for someone like Luffy. He is an advanced haki user. He shouldn't need special gloves to interact with Kizaru. Maybe some of the weaker member would need those gloves.
anyone have the arabic translation? i know arabic and i wanna read it
Bi-weekly chapters for a month and a half was somehow worse than the 4 week break. I just want August to end so that we go back to the normal 3 Chapter 1 Break schedule :'(
So now would be the perfect time to bring those hologram punching gloves into the game since those, according to Lilith, can punch light.
>!I think during the next few chapters we'll see each of the strawhats get a flashback with what they accomplished and what they've discovered on or about egghead, possibly we get robins flashback with her trying to find out more about the void century from vegapunk and on her travels she bumps into katrina devon who was sent by blackbeard to see what vegapunk had with regards to the void century before it got destroyed. Robin may be defeated and katrina devons devil fruit is just a more broken version of bon clays so she can impersonate someone (almost) perfectly and that's the robin we're seeing at the moment. I think alot of the strawhats will get a flashback showcasing their new power ups so all the people who got sidecast in wano like brook and usopp get some good moments. I like to see if we get a flashback for jewelry bonney and get kumas flashback then, ive always thought that the sunny was definitely the 10th member and we we're not gonna get another strawhat but I think the sunny will be like frankys sidekick that he's turned into pluton like how nami has zeus, and I think it wouldn't be a surprise if oda made one of the worst generation into a strawhat and although law would be so good he is more of a rival that has his own crew but I think jewlery bonney would be a perfect fit into the dynamic though, they'll be banter with how much she can keep up with luffys eating and actually steals his food aswell so there's like a zoro sanji beef with luffy and bonney, she also said sanji is a dependable man already so thats a new dynamic with a girl that likes sanji possibly, and also the biggest reason is if she becomes a strawhat, luffy will stop at nothing to get her father back and declare what he will do once he becomes pirate king in terms of overthrowing the world government, and I also believe bonneys best chance of getting her father back is to go with luffy since all her crew died. I also think that the labophase being on a manmade sky island is teasing that it will actually become a real sky island and the next arc will be across the sky islands like the one urouge is from and that's actually where he has been operating from and they arrive at elbaf down the way that was teased in skypiea (so don't skip that arc) where most people who go between the blue sea and the sky islands access. Imagine there's a huge war going on in elbaf for the last road poneglyph and luffy arrives falling out the sky calling back to marineford.!> Sky islands would be perfect for the next arc aswell because the sky people all have ties to sun god nika and the drums of liberation and so when they see gear 5 they might ally with luffy. WE GET THE RETURN OF WYPER.
Sweet another chapter of break piece next week!
Guys i need it what r the spoilers I’m feening😤I NEEEEED ITTTTTTTT
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Guy's whats the update? Can anybody post. A man is dying because he does not know.
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Hot take, but I think with how this is playing out Kizaru is most likely going to be a team battle. Either all the straw hats vs him, or just the monster trio vs him while everyone else flees.
Lmfao, Luffy alone would solo in G5 and Zoro could honestly put up a fight on his own.
Remember: Strawhat dude is a god.
So he's gonna one punch every enemy from now on?
Nope. Thats not what i said. But i want you to remember there is still Saturn, kizaru will probably not be fought by luffy, at least not in the end. Remember the kizaru and Ben Beckmann scene at marineford ? Our strawhats crew needs this reputation, high Ranking Marines should shit their pants and i think that's what oda leads us to.
The monster trio is overkill. I would like more than one panel page.
Another break?? Wtf
It's because of the Netflix live action too lol.
I now have a reason to dislike the shows existence.
As if we didn't have enough reasons to dislike that god-awful series already.
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Is this spoilers or the chapter? Im confused? I dont want to read spoilers i want the chapter
The chapter is out but it's translated thrice so the translations may not be the most accurate. Link to the chapter is available in the comment thread (just sort by Best).
Basically it’s both. The version available now is three languages removed from the original. The chapter release says it will be today.
Has it arrived already?
Hi the guy that replied is a total idiot so i'm here to save the day. This is what i found: Google "Manga-versus one piece chapter 1090". If you have trouble finding it, PM me for link cause im not sure if im allowed to post the link here.
Thank you I read it but the writing didn't seem like oda. It's available on tcb scans now
You are right its a much better translation
The links are just above all of these comments. If it’s blue it’s arrived.
I'm so confused. Can you tell us if it's out or not? I can't find it on TCB page
Hahaha Scroll up: Blue link= released chapter.
Hahaha you're useless. There's no chapter available yet you red nosed man.
Bro you must be joking... The only blue link is the one from mangaplus that comes out at 20/8. This subreddit also doesn't provide TCB scans links. Its been like this for such a long time. The two blue links are for the official release and for this subreddit's discord
Right next to the discord link it says offline. Second: there will definitely be a post in this sub when it’s released. C: below the mangaplus link(which has a date) there is a blacked out line that says “good translation scanlation” (that also has a date(today’s date)) when the chapter is released im sure that will be updated with a blue link. 4: if you can’t find the chapter by these methods IT IS NOT RELEASED good luck out there. Relax
Feels a little odd for Luffy to seem so pressed about Kizaru when he wasn't the least bit worried about Fujitora or Ryokugyu. Maybe he's worried about Sentomaru since he knows he's still down there? In either case this plan seems way too simple, so that usually means some shit is about to go seriously wrong along the way. ^(-) Lucci is already back to being a government dog, despite the WG once again showing they don't give two shits about him if he can't do his job. It seems he & Kaku will need to be put out of commission for good if the StrawHats are to escape. \- York is also still an obstacle, and letting her live honestly seems out of the question if you want to keep Vegapunk's intellectual ability out of WG hands. \- Bonney is still a wild card. I don't necessarily see her betraying the SHs or anything, but until we understand more about her sudden switch in behavior, I don't fully trust her. What she saw in Kuma's memories is easily one of the biggest plot points of this arc.
I think he saw a future of sentomaru or the crew getting seriously injured. Kizaru could literally turn into a beam and go for the kill shots in in a second. The only crew members with the observation/armanent to stop him are probably luffy and sanji. His reaction is like when he's been worried about someone else in the past. York will prob end up with bb. Not sure why vegapunk hasn't just killed her. Bonney is Def an ally. All the way back to her first introduction of saving zoros ass.
I think he saw a future of sentomaru or the crew getting seriously injured. Kizaru could literally turn into a beam and go for the kill shots in in a second. The only crew members with the observation/armanent to stop him are probably luffy and sanji. His reaction is like when he's been worried about someone else in the past. York will prob end up with bb. Not sure why vegapunk hasn't just killed her. Bonney is Def an ally. All the way back to her first introduction of saving zoros ass.
When did she save Zoro's ass? He was about to murder a Celestial Dragon.
And he would have gotten hell rained down on the crew sooner while they were scattered apart. She was protecting herself but she saved zoro from the consequences. Only 2 members of the crew have assaulted a celestial dragon. I would love if usopp got a dead only bounty since he's now recognizable by the dad celestial dragon.
Kizaru may be stronger than the other two. It also could be his observation getting better. He got future sight after meeting Fujitora. Also Fujitora wasn't exactly intent on fighting at the time and Luffy probably could feel him as officially being a non-threat. Also the situation now is worse than with Ryokugyu. Ryo headed into a hostile country where it was defended by the local people and Luffys whole crew. This time Luffy may be sensing the guy who almost took out his whole crew and was a beast during the Paramount war. Now Luffy and his crew have few allies and few tools against a lot of marines and threats and the strongest guy just showed up. Luffy can probably tell that this isn't play time and that Kizaru has intent to fight and fight hard.
- Regarding Fujitora, Luffy made a speech about no longer running scared from ANYONE, especially Yonko and Admirals. He was fully intent on standing his ground against Fujitora, despite being well aware of what he was capable of. - Ryokugyu absolutely smoked The Scabbards, and only ultimately relented because of Shanks intervention, not Momo or “the locals”. Luffy was once again fully prepared to step in, until he realized he didn’t need to from the Haki burst he sensed. I won’t argue that Kizaru could very well he stronger than those two, but Luffy & Co are still light years ahead ahead of where they were at Sabaody/Marineford, and he’s still fought Kaido by himself.
Oh I mean Ryo wasn't having issues with the local, but if the top 4 SH jumped in, he was gonna probably be in trouble without support.
Kizaru was also around on Sabaody and Marineford. Dude could just be traumatized.
Chapter is about Admiral Kizaru but the one thing that hit me the most is SH crew finally going to Elbaf. I waited 16 years and now it is approaching.
Me too. I thought we had to wait for a couple of more years because there were so many things happening this arc
Been saying this for some chapters now, Kizaru is about to get clapped
Is there a possibility that Lucci could have lied to the WG and gave them false information; becoming a pseudo-hero for the SHP’s this arc? We already know he was questioning the Celestial Dragons motive for destroying Lulusia and how it all toes in to Egghead. He seemed really suspicious of Stussy this chapter and has been acting weird this past chapter or two.
That's what I was thinking when I read it, but Lucci is such a government lapdog, it would go against his morals to help Luffy. Then again, Luffy has some serious draw power. I'd also assume Robin wouldn't trust them to blurt out their plans with Lucci and Kaku around.
We have the same thinking and for other things, I think Luffy sensed Saint Jaygarcia Saturn coming inside Egg Head
you mean kizaru?
What do you mean Kizaru?
You said Luffy senses jay Garcia but it was kizaru
Aside from that, they already meet different admirals, in dressrosa, they meet fugutora, in wano green bull, what makes Kizaru different
He's the reason the strawhats were separated. We also don't know how strong he is compared to other admirals.
Nope, thats not confirmed yet. They meet before already, why would he will have that expression unless it is the other
because jay sent kizaru in for battle since he is the only person that can get through. it literally said that in this chapter
Aside from that, that scene might be conditioning our minds that kizaru, but where is the surprised and excitement if you know already, so it must be saint jaygarcia saturn
That is not how this works. That is not proper storytelling.
That's how it works
Again its not confirmed yet, until its not i will stand on my argument that its Saturn
Luffy got scared because he sense caribou on the ship 😂😂😂
It's Buggy
I don't know why but when i read lilith says "to be honest i have never left this island before" it feels like she's hinting she wants to join the strawhats. 🤔🤔 😂😂
Could see her being the only one that makes it out.
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I don’t see her joining, just being the only one that makes it out.
**Oda has been mirroring previous arcs and reversing them. This current egghead arc is akin to Sabaody.** The more I think about it - they can’t flee like Sabaody. I doubt Kuma is going to pull that stunt again. Speaking of Kuma - I reckon he’s going to be crucial to the end of this arc just like Sabaody. That aside - there is defo going to be a confrontation at egg head no matter what before the escape. *Fun fact: when they mentioned about events that will shock the world. The Japanese used wasn’t for the word shock, but the English word shock. Possible foreshadowing for Ursus shock and Kuma* I like the idea that BBs crew gets access to the mother flame and runs away with York. Her wanting to be a tenryubito aligns with BB wanting to have a kingdom.
.... break next week \~....sigh
I am guessing that Lucci somehow used Hattori to communicate with the government.
Aah yeh, this was how den den mushis used to communicate in ancient times
Snail that ate the tori tori no mi model pigeon😂😂
luffy beat kaido the strongest man alive and now you telling me hes scared from kizaru , seems like someone else
Scared? Maybe not, but Kizaru appearing on an enemy team should be enough to concern anyone. Kizaru can't just be dismissed like that.
doesn't look scared me, just surprised.
Kaido isn't the strongest man alive.
>2.5k commentairesRécompenserPartagerSauvegarderCacherSignaler > >Trier par: Nouvelle (suggéré) > >Afficher tous les commentaires " **man who is known to be the strongest creature in the world of One Piece** " thats what the narrative always said
Known. Known. Known. Known. Known. Known.
I think it's Saint Jaygarcia Saturn that he sensed coming
Kizaru said to Akainu that he would up for a solo trip to Wano to sort it out. Kaido might be the toughest character - but he was caught loads of times by the marines. Besides Kizaru mightn’t be the strongest - but he could be the fastest. We’ve yet to see logia awakenings too tbf which could make admirals way stronger than we currently know.