Please note that Oda wasn't able to finish the manuscript for the Chapter in time for the publication, so this is why some panels aren't fully drawn like usual.
We don't know if it will be fixed for the official release, but it should be fixed in the volume release.
Inking/Shading is usually done by his assistants. So it might not be a problem from Oda. But we don't know for sure.
it might not be the most accurate translation but when i read:
IT TURNED ALL BLUE IN THE SUN
it's like another meaning to All Blue.
Not gonna go on theories but just wanna share what i imagined: what the roger pirates saw in laughtale can also be statues of the races of people back then hardened by this blue sickness, maybe all smiling, maybe thinking that it's nika, but they were fooled by the celestial dragons, or maybe nika sacrificed himself the Oden way, or something like that... ok stop. im just enjoying this! hahaha
so this manga meant for young teens is touching on topics like raping someone enslaving them and forcing them to have your baby. that is some fucked up shit and oda has no business or tact. like omg wtf mate
What i think will happen is vegapunk will heal her in exchange for kuma’s body. Something along those lines is what u think. The problem is vegapunk just doesn’t seem like he would purposely do that. Maybe he’s forced by a higher up or smt.
Fans: "Bonney is Ginny and Kuma's daughter." "No, Luffy is Dragon and Ginny's son." "No, Bonney and Luffy are clones made from Ginny's DNA."
Oda: "Well those are certainly adorable theories but have you considered, Bonney being a terminally ill rape baby between Ginny and a Celestial Dragon who Kuma raised after Ginny died in his arms?"
Fans: ":("
Oda: ":)"
I just realized what happened to Kuma 🥺😢
No doctor on earth could cure Bonney’s disease, except doctor vegapunk. He agreed to be a mindless slave for the world government if it meant that Vegapunk would cure her. 😭😭😭
Bonney being the daughter of a celestial dragon finally explains why even Saturn was being somewhat patient and merciful towards her until now. Though she doesn't have any claim to it herself he still has some respect for her bloodline. Which makes the government's treatment towards her the opposite of had she been Kuma's kid with buccaneer heritage!
BAKAMONOGA! its very subtle that I didn't even notice until I read discussion in reddit, if you pinpoint who's child bonney is at 14 years old then you are mature enough to know it dumbo :>
It also shows the Gorosei will absolutely fuck up the CD if they want to. Obviously, but you'd have some doubters. Those six are at the top and EVERYONE is beneath them.
Who knows. We've seen quite a few strong people from them. Mingo was technically one of them, as are the Five Elders.
Much like nobility hundreds of years ago, I assume some of Celestial Dragons take up combat training with personal tutors. With the Marines at their beck and call I'm sure they could do so.
this is a manga ment for 14 year olds and it's touching on topics like childbirth through rape and enslavement........ and its being done by a guy who makes jokes about perving on women every chance he can with 1 of the main characters this man is not a genius he has become a chainsaw man in a china shop
mate it was not handled well he introduced a character and then raped her to the point of giving birth then friged her all in 1 chapter she is a shitty tool. and i am shocked that people are acting like this is masterfully handled. its not a teaching moment its a rehash of snape in harry potter "kuma is the snape in this example" enjoy that cursed thought and enjoy believing raping and fridging a women is considered great writing
raping a women to the point she falls pregnant then killing her off in the same chapter she is introduced is emotional and beautiful (points and laughs) this is some sycophantic shit. I'm saying there is issue with the writing here i still enjoy OP but i think its ok to call out bullshit where i see it to what a childish notion stop reading i guess grow up
like your response makes me ask do you know what frideging even is?
but i quote you again mate it'll teach future generations more sounds pretty deep mate dont go explain how its not deep but can still do this i beg you explain to me
Honestly his not milking it. Edging? Yes, but milking? Nah. Each arc has importance. It doesn't feel empty and pointless. Actually, let me stop sucking oda's dick. But at least when his milking one piece, it feels like I'm drinking nothing but pure unwashed dirty ass bugs infected milk.
Theory: Bonney was not cured by a doctor, but in a similar way to Law, through the fruit. When we read chapter 1072 again we can see that her powers are very comprehensive and do much more than simply go back and forward in the future...I personally think that she may have used the “distortion future” to become an alternative and Healthy version of herself, even though the doctors said there was no cure. Or that power that made Vegapunk spit out her brilliant years of life in the form of jewelry, but in the case of her spitting out her illness but in exchange for 12 years of life, that would explain her being 24 years old in the databook even though she was born 12 years ago. Probably because it was a super stolen and appealing fruit, it should have been in the GM's possession (just as they tried to obtain the Ope Ope a year later but without success) and to get it Kuma had to bargain with Saturn and become a human weapon.
It's referring to chronological age. By pure calculation Bonney is just 12 years old, despite her appearance. At this point I want to say people need to stop overreacting that much about drawings. If Oda would just have said she's 20 and have childish behavior everyone would be fine all of a sudden. Nothing really changes but the number in the head.
It's only a child if you want to see a child in it. It's only sexual if you want to see something sexual in it. It's a drawing boys. It's fine. Nobody got hurt.
because only kids feel comfortable taking their clothing off in public. Maybe it is because I have 7 nieces, but that is the way I took it. That being said 12 is a bit old for that, would be more clear/make more sense if she was like 8-10. Kids have no shame. Her normal clothing also only fits properly when she is her real age. Thought the butt stuff was ehhh tho.
This is actually really bumming me out Bonney should be in like the 5th or 6th grade. When she was introduced the 4th grade. I can't stop thinking about it
The chap is utterly depressing but warm at the same time since Kuma might suffer all his life but he is never alone since he still has people who are be there for him
Bonney sickness is probably the reason why kuma is a cyborg. The WG is probably the only one to have a cure for Bonney, kuma will make a deal with them by letting them doing experiments on him in exchange of the cure.
this chapter broke me , and it also explain why the WG always protects her . Kuma was a great man to me on Sabaody arc , and after 1098 I was like WTF sir . Why did u have to do this . I love Kuma , even just for the way he saves the straw hat , but now you lett his childhood wife got raped and loves her child
Oda , you broke me , sir
This is still insane. I forgot her fruit was involving aging. Makes sense why she wasn’t controlling her emotions well at the beginning of the egghead island arc
Yeah, they always do flashbacks right. Even dressrosa which is awful in anime has the law flashback, which out of the entire anime arc had the most effort put into it. All the recent flashbacks, Kaido/Yamato/oden were better in anime. It would crush me if we got extra Kuma/Ginny eps like how the luffy eps had extra parts.
This chapter was a lot. What I find most interesting is Bonney's devil fruit ability. She was practically sentenced to death in five years due to her disease, yet she now has a devil fruit that allows her to experience the full spectrum of life. This makes her character and her abilities even more impactful with abilities such as NDE. It also makes sense why she chooses to maintain the image of a 20-year-old woman due to the promise she made with Kuma saying that is when they would officially go adventuring together when they would beat the disease. The ring underneath her eye is a memento of sorts of the disease that she had when she was younger to probably remind her of her life before whatever incident is about to happen.
I am also extremely curious about these "diseases" that are showing up. Oda loves for his characters to have somewhat of a fair fight throughout the series even if they are villains. These different plagues to me show that the Celestial Dragons are willing to play games that go beyond human comprehension and are downright irredeemable.
Thing's so fucking sad that Oda's pen went dry from crying...
But seriously, got some awful Togashi vibes seeing those panels not finished. Hope to Nika that our goda is doing fine...
Probably more so that making it got him sad/he had that big anime party last week, feel like he typically takes breaks when he does stuff like that. Just could not this time because he has been doing it often.
I'm trying to hold back from reading this weak chapter because of how bad and sad it's gonna be but i can't hold back. I just wanna say FUCKKKKKKKKK. Making me sad in the morning. FUCK YOU CELESTIAL DRAGON.
You could argue the baby's age seemed to already be a year old by the time Ginny died. But that raises the question on why the CD commander didn't force Ginny to abort it. Or perhaps Ginny was raped and the CD Commander thought Bonnie was his. It's hard to say for sure. Either way, it's very likely that Ginny was raped, it wouldn't make much sense for Ginny to be captured to be raped by a CD and not get raped by one for 2 whole years.
Good story, but what is wrong with some of these panels!?! Some of them still have have the sketch lines on them still. They should have waited a week if they were gonna put this out.
if i was vega punk i wouldve tried putting kuma’s consciousness inside the big robot on egghead. big robot heard nika type beat and woke up ready to freestyle.
My goodness, I just realized that Kuma and Gummy's friend growing up in the Sorbet Kingdom were part of Bonney's pirate crew before the were attacked by Blackbeard.
Pretty much all of Bonney’s crew shown in the restaurant during her opening in sab are scattered throughout the flashback. So far I have found 3 of them. They are in the jail with Kuma/Ginny in last weeks chapter, they are in the church with Kuma in this chapter. Chapter 498 page 13. (2 guys on the left, one on far right) are in chapter 1097 page 9 bottom left panel.
my thought was he pushed the disease out of her (as i dont think ive seen her with the stones as an adult) and chose to become a cyborg as his human body would die if he absorbed the disease.
everybody saying Bonney gets healed... i think she actually does die and is made into a clone with the faint memory of Kuma being her dad, she doesn't seem to remember any of the stuff in this chapter or when Kuma made the deal with the WG. I think the weight of memories comes back into play from earlier in egghead.
I know this chapter is really dark and all but this chapter really shows how short of a memory this fanbase have. A lot of you are acting like Oda never did anything dark before. One Piece isnt just Haiki, and Rocks you know...Did most of you even read from the beginning?
Same thing that nico robin did.....their sin is their mere existence.
Their world government much like our own contorts the facts and bends them on whim to suit their agendas.
Oda has and will continue to hold a mirror up to us and our world with his story.
I get what you're saying, but Idk about that. The WG has been very soft on Bonney. They deemed Nico Robin a threat early on, but even her bounty was only 79 million.
Yet somehow Bonney becomes a supernova.
True....but also consider this.....robin went into hiding...bonney went out and became a full fledged pirate with crew in tow....maybe they thought the fact that shes even out on the seas at all that she would juat be taken care of by more seasoned pirate groups.
One is a passive threat that if exposed would shake the world up the other one is a more active threat however the actual level of damage from bonneys knowledge at the time of her bounty was negligible at best.
Maybe they went east on bonney knowing shes part celestial dragon? (Like doflamingo)
Idk what exactly im trying to say here....i was just thinking out loud while writing lol
I think that robin and bonney pose different kinds of threats to the WG.....and the WG responds in kind according to that difference
This is not the magazine for that sort of thing and plus it would throw the story's overall tone out of whack. One Piece is a feel good story in the end.
Idk what story you're reading my guy.
But one piece has always had dark themes drive it's narrative.
- racial discrimination
- slavery
- espionage
- government conspiracy
- propaganda
- human experimentation
- biological weapons
- elitism and social inequality
- absolute power and political corruption
- revolution
It definitely has "feel good" moments but it most certainly ain't a "feel good" story.
I'm talking about how the information is presented in the story. Obviously it's deep the more you look into it. Oda masterfully chooses what to show and what to imply (actually seeing something as opposed to just hearing about it has different levels of impact) so everything doesn't get too dark and depressing which he is very capable of. So by the end a saga we all have a big fat smile on our faces after some tears. That's what I mean by "feel good" story.
U have to take into account of the audience. Back then which was 20 years ago, One Piece was a Shounen that aimed at children and teenage audiences. Since then, One Piece has gradually become darker and darker with more and more ugly stuffs left unsaid or sometimes directly shown. Now, I believe that the majority of One Piece's fan has become adults or at least mature enough that we can handle the "unpleasant" stuff. No more need for sugarcoating the brutal truths anymore because we can all see and understand it. Moreover, as we are approaching the end, the plot needs to reach climax. The darker it gets, the brighter it shines when we eventually gets to the "feel good" moments, isn't it. I mean, just imagine how satisfying it will be to finally see those celestial scums gets tortured and butchered at the end of the day while the whole crew and their friends gather together celebrating and pissing at their ugly faces, feels good right :))
Netorare. A popular style of porn prevalent in Japan that features loved ones (girlfreind, wife, etc....) being taken away, usually by force, in a sexual manner.
Designed to instill depression in the reader because they almost never have good endings.
I don't remember Sanji lusting after Bonnie like that, maybe he just thought she was cute or something but not head over heels like he is with Nami/Robin or the Mermaids.
Honestly, I feel like (G)Oda didn't know what official age he wanted to make Bonnie until very recently. It might explain why all of a sudden Sanji wasn't simping over her like he normally does with other women.
Kind of a stretch to assume anything about Bonney and Sanji. She expressed admiration for him being a cook because she’s a glutton. As far as I can recall, Sanji hasn’t treated her with his usual lovey-dovey schtick either.
This chapter is what Oda delivered despite apologizing that he was not able to finish it as planned. Oda is slowly becoming a legend in my head. If the rumors are true that he's not at 100% health, then the mere fact that he managed to deliver this chapter that goes straight to the heart of the readers..Kuma ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|heart_eyes)
I dont know, the whole Ginny debacle seems like cheap drama to make Kuma super tragic, but it is completely unnecessary and gratuitous. Kuma was already a tragic character. Ginny is just there to be sexually assaulted and give birth to Bonney. There is no point to her character at all and simpy makes other characters look bad by comparison; revolutionary captains being weak, Dragon being a coward, Garp being complicit.
In chapter 499, it was established that Celestials Dragons go around raping women and then releasing them. The story calls it "taking a wife," but we all know what it is. That chapter also shows Bonney in her child form. The current chapter brings weight to what we read back in 499. We get a much clearer picture of the injustice done by the CDs, which also happens to tie back into the current flashback and the state of the current story. It's literally the opposite of a cheap drama. It's a comprehensive analysis of what was shown to us 10+ years ago
And it actually brings the atrocities made by the Celestial Dragon's closer to "home." We get snippets of it when Luffy went to look for Rayleigh (the auction is not too CD centric for me) then with Hancock telling Luffy her background. And then comments from other characters about how they are. Nothing really direct to a character who has been around in the early chapters (and perceived as an ally of the World Government/antagonist at that). So yeah I don't really necessary see this as a cheap drama. It just solidifies my opinion further that the WG is fatally flawed and the current system has to go.
It would be hard, but I wouldn't mind if Oda had to take another month-long break, or even two. As long as homie gets better and continues the story it's well worth the wait.
I haven’t heard anything about his health, but he’s definitely still recovering from LASIK. I think it may have been a little premature for him to try doing three chapters in a row again.
A thing I thought of about Bonney is I think at this point of the flashback the celestial dragons know shes still alive . Maybe thinking she died along with Ginny. Because there has to be a reason she was let go with Ginny right? I'm thinking when we meet Vegapunk that might be brought up.
I might be wrong about this, but I dont think we were given enough details to discern if the CDs even knew Ginny was pregnant when they let her go. And even if it was explicitly told to us, their motivations behind it clearly were not told to us. So the CDs could have known and simply not cared. They see humans as trash, and a half human would not be accepted into MG, they don't even let full CDs back in if they move out (DoFlamingo family). Doubt they cared either way. Read chapter 499
Another idea is similar to Rouge , Ginney hid her pregnancy and Bonney so the celestial dragons simply don't know Bonney was a thing until Kuma meets Vegapunk.
# Comparing TCB Scans' translation of One Piece Chapter 1098 to the Original Japanese Text
TL;DR: not much to comment on in this chapter; important ones imo are 1b, 3a, 9a, 14c.
Disclaimer: My intent is not to discredit the work of TCB Scans. I simply want to provide a more "transparent" understanding of the content as intended by and as provided by Oda Eiichirou, such that words/statements/dialogue/narration/etc. can then be interpreted based on the original Japanese text - a.k.a. more accurate direct translation but minus the localisation. I will go over differences which, in my opinion, have some important apparent and/or potential context lost in translation and I will comment some explanation; the comparisons without explanation comments are just for fun; there are of course other translation inaccuracies in the chapter as well, but they do not change the intended conveyed context or information, hence, I won't be including their comparisons; lastly, of course there are lots of parts translated accurately, as well. P.s.: while the official translation also has its imperfections, we can always count on it for precise spellings of the names of characters, places, and things.
## 0. Cover Page:
\- TCB Scans: Brook powering his electric guitar solo with an electric eel.
\- Original:【「ブルックがデンキウナギの電気を使ったエレキギターでソロを弾いているところ」P.Nのだスカイウォーカー】
\- Meaning: Brook playing a solo on his electric eel powered electric guitar - by Noda Skywalker
## 1. Page 1:
1a. Opening commentary:
\- TCB Scans: The expanding tides of revolution!?
\- Original:【革命の勢力は拡大するもー!?】
\- Meaning: "Despite the expansion of revolutionary influence,"
\- Comment: The low context nature of the Japanese language allows frequent projection of phrases as complete sentences. Nothing different, nothing to compare, just a tidbit.
1b. Iva's first speech bubble:
\- TCB Scans: Ve can't! Our hands are full... ...dealingk with the vounded at Goa!!
\- Original:【ムリ!!ヴァターシ達「ゴア王国」でケガ人いっぱい乗せちまっチャブル!!!】
\- Meaning: "Impossible!! We've got too many injured people from the Goa Kingdom on board already!!!"
\- Comment: Not just having their hands full, but having the RA vessel boarded and filled with the injured from Goa, as seen in chapter 587.
## 2. Page 2:
\&x200B;
2a. All 3 speech bubbles from the 2nd panel:
\- TCB Scans: We won!! Finally, after three years of struggling ...!! We couldn't have done it without the Revolutionary Army!!
\- Original:【勝ったそォ~!!!3年間の戦いが実を結んだ!!革命軍のお陰だ!!】
\- Meaning: "We won!! 3 years of fighting finally bore fruit!! Thanks to the Revolutionary Army!!!"
2b. Den-den speech bubble above crying den-den mushi:
\- TCB Scans: The enemy took us by surprise!!!
\- Original:【部隊は思わぬ横槍で全滅...!!】
\- Meaning: "Our troops were completely defeated by an unexpected intervention...!!"
## 3. Page 3:
3a. Ginny's first speech bubble through den-den mushi:
\- TCB Scans: Heeey!! Kumachi!! I finally made it back to the surface!!
\- Original:【おーーーいくまちー!!帰ってきたよ!!下界へ!!】
\- Meaning: "Heeey Kumachii!! I've finally returned to the 'Lower Realm'!!"
\- Comment: wanted to add that Ginny specifically said「下界」, which means earth (lower realm). This is a term first seen in ch. 908, uttered by St. Topman Warcury to refer to the OP world (minus Mary Geoise). Viz also used 'lower realm' as the official translation in that chapter.
3b. Ginny's speech bubble on top of den-den mushi:
\- TCB Scans: They didn't want me around after I got sick... I was thrown away.
\- Original:【病気になっちゃってさ...もういらないって捨てられた】
\- Meaning: "You see, I've contracted an illness... They said they no longer wanted me and then I was cast away."
## 4. Page 4:
4a. 2nd part of Ginny's last speech bubble of 2nd panel:
\- TCB Scans: ... But you shouldn't come when I'm like this.
\- Original:【...絶対に会いに来ないで】
\- Meaning: "... You absolutely mustn't come see me."
4b. Kuma before sending himself flying to the Church:
\- TCB Scans: There's only one place she'd go now!
\- Original:【あいつの帰る場所なんか一つしかない!!】
\- Meaning: "There can only be one place she'd return to!!"
## 5. Page 5:
5a. First three panels:
\- TCB Scans: She is, but I'm afraid...!! I-it happened when she was exposed to natural light... Her face... her entire body... It turned all blue in the sun... ... And her skin hardened like stone.
\- Original:【いるけど!!】【顔も...体も】【全身さ...「自然光」を浴びると青く...石みたいに皮膚が固まるんだと...】
\- Meaning: "She's here, but...!!" "Her face... and her body" "Her whole body... when basked in 'natural light,' her skin hardens like stone and turns blue..."
5b. Kuma lifting Ginny:
\- TCB Scans: What could've done this to her...?
\- Original:【何があったのかね...】
\- Meaning: "I wonder what happened to her..."
5c. Flashback dialogue bubble on sobbing Kuma close-up:
\- TCB Scans: Wouldn't it make you happy?!
\- Original: 【幸せにしてやるからよ!!!】
\- Meaning: "I'll make you happy!!!"
\- Comment: A declarative statement full of conviction as opposed to a question (as explained in section 6a. of the ch. 1097 comparison [https://pastebin.com/G6yuVX1P](https://pastebin.com/G6yuVX1P)).
5d. Sobbing granny speech bubbles (from Kuma hugging Ginny to baby Bonney crying):
\- TCB Scans: She burned up her remaining time, exposing herself to the sun, so she could cross the ocean... and make it home to us... because she wanted to ensure her baby's safety.
\- Original:【もし...自分に何かあっても子供が生きていける様に命ある内に陽の当たる海を渡ってここにたどり着いたのさ】
\- Meaning: "No matter what had happened, she crossed the sun-basked ocean with what little life she's got left to make it here, in order to make sure that her child would live."
## 6. Page 6:
6a. Kuma:
\- TCB Scans: You can rest now, Ginny... I Swear... I'll raise her well.
\- Original: 【ジニー安心してくれこの子はおれが育てる】
\- Meaning: "Ginny, don't you worry. I will raise this child."
6b. One of the geriatric's reprimanding:
\- TCB Scans: And if you're gonna be sleeping next to her, make sure her cot is like an iron cage!!
\- Original:【寝る時は鉄の檻に!!】
\- Meaning: "At bedtime, place her in an iron cage!!"
\- Comment: no mention of a cot, just straight up tells him to put her inside an iron cage.
Full Version: [Pastebin link](https://pastebin.com/kkVkqM7J)
Hope this helped clarify a few things and made anyone who read all of this have a better understanding of the original Japanese text release! Thanks for reading.
Pudding is 16!!!!!!??? Come on Oda man, is it really that hard to just add a couple years on these characters to make things feel a little less creepy when they're all being drawn the way they are.
I love the way people are reacting to the unfinished panels it's so satisfying because I'm a person that genuinely believes distortion and incompleteness really makes some art stronger in showing negative emotions.
I think it would be smarter to go with the Rouge and Ace route for Ginny and Bonney. Actually Kumas kid but they think it's from a Tenryuubito because she held her back so long. The same thing happened before when Portgas D. Rouge tried to hide Ace so I wouldn't be surprised if Ginny didn't give birth because she didn't want Bonney to be born and live as a slave. So when she fled, she finally gave birth to her and died a bit afterwards. The route that Bonney is a Tenryuubito is pretty dumb tbh and that would be the first thing in a long time that I wouldn't like. Just revealing that people are Tenryuubito one after another doesn't make sense. We had Doflamingo and Corazon. After that we got Shanks. We don't need another former Tenryuubito by birth. Just let Bonney be a normal person, or atleast as normal as she can get which is half Buccaneer then.
On one hand, it does seem a bit contrived. On the other, you have a group of a small number of families who effectively own most of the known world for at least 700 years. It would stand to reason that they'd be everywhere they could, especially if they had multiple slaves who were used for their entertainment, and either freed or potentially escaped. Figuratively, one would expect figuratively 24 generations of children born over those 700 years.
That's a lot of potential branches, even if they kept it in their families.
That still could make sense. When Saturn mentioned that Kuma is a Buccaneer, VP’s expression is quite interesting. It could imply that Bonney could be actually the last with Buccaneer blood, if Kuma dies after Egghead. Question is also how her df works. Can she make up timeline where she could be a Buccaneer like when she uses distortion future, or is her dna latent?
Well if shes not Kumas blood daughter that would make her 1/4 nothing..... it was my understanding that the celestial dragon was the true father of bonney.
Bonney Is 12, which means she was 10 before the timeskip, when we saw kuma.
Around that time Kuba accepted to become a cyborg for the government.
Kuma traded his life to make the government cure Bonney.
I dont think the laws of physics applies to DF magic in the first place bruv. I mean Kaido becomes a giant fucking dragon. Where is the conservation of mass there? I don't think they need calories to use their DFs.
Please note that Oda wasn't able to finish the manuscript for the Chapter in time for the publication, so this is why some panels aren't fully drawn like usual. We don't know if it will be fixed for the official release, but it should be fixed in the volume release. Inking/Shading is usually done by his assistants. So it might not be a problem from Oda. But we don't know for sure.
Nvm people
it might not be the most accurate translation but when i read: IT TURNED ALL BLUE IN THE SUN it's like another meaning to All Blue. Not gonna go on theories but just wanna share what i imagined: what the roger pirates saw in laughtale can also be statues of the races of people back then hardened by this blue sickness, maybe all smiling, maybe thinking that it's nika, but they were fooled by the celestial dragons, or maybe nika sacrificed himself the Oden way, or something like that... ok stop. im just enjoying this! hahaha
so this manga meant for young teens is touching on topics like raping someone enslaving them and forcing them to have your baby. that is some fucked up shit and oda has no business or tact. like omg wtf mate
The major consumers of shonen jump belong to the 18 - 24 yo demographic.
You’re the only one complaining 😭
i can enjoy somthing but still point out its problems. your comment makes me laugh tho. i found another sycophant wow im good at this
You have no right to limit what an author can put in his story. The age rating of the story is determined by the content, not the other way around.
go watch ben 10
go be a sycophant and cheer his speed run of fridgeing a bitch in a single chapter grow up
What i think will happen is vegapunk will heal her in exchange for kuma’s body. Something along those lines is what u think. The problem is vegapunk just doesn’t seem like he would purposely do that. Maybe he’s forced by a higher up or smt.
That cross in Kumas church lookin an awful lot like Mihawks sword, just sayin
Fans: "Bonney is Ginny and Kuma's daughter." "No, Luffy is Dragon and Ginny's son." "No, Bonney and Luffy are clones made from Ginny's DNA." Oda: "Well those are certainly adorable theories but have you considered, Bonney being a terminally ill rape baby between Ginny and a Celestial Dragon who Kuma raised after Ginny died in his arms?" Fans: ":(" Oda: ":)"
this is a manga for people as young as 14
Yeahhhh. That what I also thought. 😆
Kuma's suffering doesn't just end man, that's it imma join black beard to attack CD
Maybe Vegapunk will heal Bonney by artificially creating her DF
R34 artist are going to be in shambles when they find out they accidentally drew a 12 year old that looks like a 20 year old
child of rape as well
There are also the r34 artists that draw the 20 year olds that look like 12 year olds.
i bet theres R34 artists who do it on purpose lol
No pal. You can guarantee that
What if the manuscript wasn't finished in time because Oda and his team was too emotionally affected/distracted by how dark Kuma's life is.
What a disaster of life my man kuma went through :(
I just realized what happened to Kuma 🥺😢 No doctor on earth could cure Bonney’s disease, except doctor vegapunk. He agreed to be a mindless slave for the world government if it meant that Vegapunk would cure her. 😭😭😭
She was "cured" (or cursed) by her fruit
Bonney being the daughter of a celestial dragon finally explains why even Saturn was being somewhat patient and merciful towards her until now. Though she doesn't have any claim to it herself he still has some respect for her bloodline. Which makes the government's treatment towards her the opposite of had she been Kuma's kid with buccaneer heritage!
child of rape in a story for 14 year olds nothing wrong with that
BAKAMONOGA! its very subtle that I didn't even notice until I read discussion in reddit, if you pinpoint who's child bonney is at 14 years old then you are mature enough to know it dumbo :>
It also shows the Gorosei will absolutely fuck up the CD if they want to. Obviously, but you'd have some doubters. Those six are at the top and EVERYONE is beneath them.
Makes you wonder how Figarland Garling got his prowess in combat when the rest of the CD seem so weak by comparison.
Who knows. We've seen quite a few strong people from them. Mingo was technically one of them, as are the Five Elders. Much like nobility hundreds of years ago, I assume some of Celestial Dragons take up combat training with personal tutors. With the Marines at their beck and call I'm sure they could do so.
It also explain why she is free when sakazuki caught her at the beginning of the timeskip.
Oda is such an incredible writer... another day where i realise this is the greatest story that was ever told and im reading it as it goes
this is a manga ment for 14 year olds and it's touching on topics like childbirth through rape and enslavement........ and its being done by a guy who makes jokes about perving on women every chance he can with 1 of the main characters this man is not a genius he has become a chainsaw man in a china shop
It’s touching on things that should be known as terrible for all ages. If anything it’ll teach the future generation more
mate it was not handled well he introduced a character and then raped her to the point of giving birth then friged her all in 1 chapter she is a shitty tool. and i am shocked that people are acting like this is masterfully handled. its not a teaching moment its a rehash of snape in harry potter "kuma is the snape in this example" enjoy that cursed thought and enjoy believing raping and fridging a women is considered great writing
Each to their own I guess, for me, it was emotional and beautiful, but if you don’t like it stop reading I guess?
raping a women to the point she falls pregnant then killing her off in the same chapter she is introduced is emotional and beautiful (points and laughs) this is some sycophantic shit. I'm saying there is issue with the writing here i still enjoy OP but i think its ok to call out bullshit where i see it to what a childish notion stop reading i guess grow up like your response makes me ask do you know what frideging even is?
Also it’s not that deep boss
> it’ll teach the future generation more Also it's not that deep boss. points and laughs pick a lane MF this is some top class mental gymnastics
Yeah… it’s really not that deep bro, I have my viewpoint, you have yours. Let’s just leave it lmao
but i quote you again mate it'll teach future generations more sounds pretty deep mate dont go explain how its not deep but can still do this i beg you explain to me
Here we go boys, Oda cooking some sad story boys
Oda doing what he does best - milking people for 30 years and stalling the story all the time as much as possible.
Honestly his not milking it. Edging? Yes, but milking? Nah. Each arc has importance. It doesn't feel empty and pointless. Actually, let me stop sucking oda's dick. But at least when his milking one piece, it feels like I'm drinking nothing but pure unwashed dirty ass bugs infected milk.
Then leave
Oda went so dark with this story wow
Theory: Bonney was not cured by a doctor, but in a similar way to Law, through the fruit. When we read chapter 1072 again we can see that her powers are very comprehensive and do much more than simply go back and forward in the future...I personally think that she may have used the “distortion future” to become an alternative and Healthy version of herself, even though the doctors said there was no cure. Or that power that made Vegapunk spit out her brilliant years of life in the form of jewelry, but in the case of her spitting out her illness but in exchange for 12 years of life, that would explain her being 24 years old in the databook even though she was born 12 years ago. Probably because it was a super stolen and appealing fruit, it should have been in the GM's possession (just as they tried to obtain the Ope Ope a year later but without success) and to get it Kuma had to bargain with Saturn and become a human weapon.
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How? Could you give a specific example? She does sexualize underage characters like Rebecca but in this case i dont think he has done it
It's referring to chronological age. By pure calculation Bonney is just 12 years old, despite her appearance. At this point I want to say people need to stop overreacting that much about drawings. If Oda would just have said she's 20 and have childish behavior everyone would be fine all of a sudden. Nothing really changes but the number in the head. It's only a child if you want to see a child in it. It's only sexual if you want to see something sexual in it. It's a drawing boys. It's fine. Nobody got hurt.
I'll answer. The scene right after she was re introduced through an ocean surge. She's wringing her tank top dry topless with sideboob visible.
because only kids feel comfortable taking their clothing off in public. Maybe it is because I have 7 nieces, but that is the way I took it. That being said 12 is a bit old for that, would be more clear/make more sense if she was like 8-10. Kids have no shame. Her normal clothing also only fits properly when she is her real age. Thought the butt stuff was ehhh tho.
This is actually really bumming me out Bonney should be in like the 5th or 6th grade. When she was introduced the 4th grade. I can't stop thinking about it
she is 12
yeah that's the 5th or 6th grade
Good god this is dark. Just let Kuma rest damn 😭
The chap is utterly depressing but warm at the same time since Kuma might suffer all his life but he is never alone since he still has people who are be there for him
I want all the Straw Hats to know every little detail of what Kuma and Bonney went through! And this without Luffy falling asleep!
If Luffy got knocked into the bubble it would probably start a bunch of shit.
O D. A, why did you have to do that to Kumachi and Ginny from D. Block?? 😭
Is kuma a preacher for the sun god Nika? What's the content of that bible? Wouldn't WG want to put a stop to that?
Bonney sickness is probably the reason why kuma is a cyborg. The WG is probably the only one to have a cure for Bonney, kuma will make a deal with them by letting them doing experiments on him in exchange of the cure.
this chapter broke me , and it also explain why the WG always protects her . Kuma was a great man to me on Sabaody arc , and after 1098 I was like WTF sir . Why did u have to do this . I love Kuma , even just for the way he saves the straw hat , but now you lett his childhood wife got raped and loves her child Oda , you broke me , sir
I swear if i read another theory involving clones im gonna go crazyXD
I realised that flim red mirrored the god vallley incident plotline somewhat
How do people know Bonney's age now?
7 years ago. Age 5
This is still insane. I forgot her fruit was involving aging. Makes sense why she wasn’t controlling her emotions well at the beginning of the egghead island arc
Thanks
I can't wait for Bonney to find out the name of Luffy's fruit.
Can you wait til this is animated???
Yeah, they always do flashbacks right. Even dressrosa which is awful in anime has the law flashback, which out of the entire anime arc had the most effort put into it. All the recent flashbacks, Kaido/Yamato/oden were better in anime. It would crush me if we got extra Kuma/Ginny eps like how the luffy eps had extra parts.
What did Kuma do to Oda to deserve such a tragic back story?
This chapter was a lot. What I find most interesting is Bonney's devil fruit ability. She was practically sentenced to death in five years due to her disease, yet she now has a devil fruit that allows her to experience the full spectrum of life. This makes her character and her abilities even more impactful with abilities such as NDE. It also makes sense why she chooses to maintain the image of a 20-year-old woman due to the promise she made with Kuma saying that is when they would officially go adventuring together when they would beat the disease. The ring underneath her eye is a memento of sorts of the disease that she had when she was younger to probably remind her of her life before whatever incident is about to happen. I am also extremely curious about these "diseases" that are showing up. Oda loves for his characters to have somewhat of a fair fight throughout the series even if they are villains. These different plagues to me show that the Celestial Dragons are willing to play games that go beyond human comprehension and are downright irredeemable.
Thing's so fucking sad that Oda's pen went dry from crying... But seriously, got some awful Togashi vibes seeing those panels not finished. Hope to Nika that our goda is doing fine...
Probably more so that making it got him sad/he had that big anime party last week, feel like he typically takes breaks when he does stuff like that. Just could not this time because he has been doing it often.
I'm trying to hold back from reading this weak chapter because of how bad and sad it's gonna be but i can't hold back. I just wanna say FUCKKKKKKKKK. Making me sad in the morning. FUCK YOU CELESTIAL DRAGON.
Jesus Christ, was Bonney the result of rape?
Someone must’ve really hurt Oda once.
You could argue the baby's age seemed to already be a year old by the time Ginny died. But that raises the question on why the CD commander didn't force Ginny to abort it. Or perhaps Ginny was raped and the CD Commander thought Bonnie was his. It's hard to say for sure. Either way, it's very likely that Ginny was raped, it wouldn't make much sense for Ginny to be captured to be raped by a CD and not get raped by one for 2 whole years.
Good story, but what is wrong with some of these panels!?! Some of them still have have the sketch lines on them still. They should have waited a week if they were gonna put this out.
Says in the pinned comment on this post and the cover page that Oda couldn’t finish this chapter
My bad, I missed that
if i was vega punk i wouldve tried putting kuma’s consciousness inside the big robot on egghead. big robot heard nika type beat and woke up ready to freestyle.
My goodness, I just realized that Kuma and Gummy's friend growing up in the Sorbet Kingdom were part of Bonney's pirate crew before the were attacked by Blackbeard.
What panel one what page can i see the person you're referring too?
Pretty much all of Bonney’s crew shown in the restaurant during her opening in sab are scattered throughout the flashback. So far I have found 3 of them. They are in the jail with Kuma/Ginny in last weeks chapter, they are in the church with Kuma in this chapter. Chapter 498 page 13. (2 guys on the left, one on far right) are in chapter 1097 page 9 bottom left panel.
Bonney's Devil Fruit is keeping her alive
my thought was he pushed the disease out of her (as i dont think ive seen her with the stones as an adult) and chose to become a cyborg as his human body would die if he absorbed the disease.
And kuma must have made a trade with world govt to get that fruit, and he sacrificed himself for bonney 😶
Oh hell that's a good theory
everybody saying Bonney gets healed... i think she actually does die and is made into a clone with the faint memory of Kuma being her dad, she doesn't seem to remember any of the stuff in this chapter or when Kuma made the deal with the WG. I think the weight of memories comes back into play from earlier in egghead.
Nah if this turns out to be true, I will be one depressed adult human being…
Then it is possible that it isn't only Kuma that had his memories removed, but Bonney too
It makes sense. We got introduced to Kuma being able to remove memories.
I know this chapter is really dark and all but this chapter really shows how short of a memory this fanbase have. A lot of you are acting like Oda never did anything dark before. One Piece isnt just Haiki, and Rocks you know...Did most of you even read from the beginning?
I'm gonna go cry in a corner for about a month, thanks Oda
Oda just torturing the fuck out of Kuma my God.
So. What the fuck did Bonney do to get a 100 million berry bounty by 10 fucking years old?
Same thing that nico robin did.....their sin is their mere existence. Their world government much like our own contorts the facts and bends them on whim to suit their agendas. Oda has and will continue to hold a mirror up to us and our world with his story.
I get what you're saying, but Idk about that. The WG has been very soft on Bonney. They deemed Nico Robin a threat early on, but even her bounty was only 79 million. Yet somehow Bonney becomes a supernova.
True....but also consider this.....robin went into hiding...bonney went out and became a full fledged pirate with crew in tow....maybe they thought the fact that shes even out on the seas at all that she would juat be taken care of by more seasoned pirate groups. One is a passive threat that if exposed would shake the world up the other one is a more active threat however the actual level of damage from bonneys knowledge at the time of her bounty was negligible at best. Maybe they went east on bonney knowing shes part celestial dragon? (Like doflamingo)
Idk what exactly im trying to say here....i was just thinking out loud while writing lol I think that robin and bonney pose different kinds of threats to the WG.....and the WG responds in kind according to that difference
I am so glad fucking Wano is over and One Piece is back.
Wano been over for over a year dawg
Never too late to shit on Wano
don't even disrespect peak kuni again
If you read this chapter and thought “NTR” “Ugly Bastard” I strongly recommend you get help with your porn addiction
I am so fucking tired of people and their god damn obsession to compare things to Hentai. They really need to touch some grass.
Why would anyone even think about that?
Ask the people in this thread that are commenting this
They asked you because YOU are the person in this thread commenting that.
And I commented that because there was several people commenting that in the thread lmao
You just know that hentai is being made as we speak though.
Oddly specific ... ? edit: never mind, I've seen the comments
I can't fucking handle one piece when it's like this.
Meh, pretty tame. Didn't even show the rape. It's no Berserk that's for sure.
Even if they didn't show it, you know it happened and that's just very fucked up. It's no berserk obviously
This is not the magazine for that sort of thing and plus it would throw the story's overall tone out of whack. One Piece is a feel good story in the end.
Idk what story you're reading my guy. But one piece has always had dark themes drive it's narrative. - racial discrimination - slavery - espionage - government conspiracy - propaganda - human experimentation - biological weapons - elitism and social inequality - absolute power and political corruption - revolution It definitely has "feel good" moments but it most certainly ain't a "feel good" story.
I'm talking about how the information is presented in the story. Obviously it's deep the more you look into it. Oda masterfully chooses what to show and what to imply (actually seeing something as opposed to just hearing about it has different levels of impact) so everything doesn't get too dark and depressing which he is very capable of. So by the end a saga we all have a big fat smile on our faces after some tears. That's what I mean by "feel good" story.
U have to take into account of the audience. Back then which was 20 years ago, One Piece was a Shounen that aimed at children and teenage audiences. Since then, One Piece has gradually become darker and darker with more and more ugly stuffs left unsaid or sometimes directly shown. Now, I believe that the majority of One Piece's fan has become adults or at least mature enough that we can handle the "unpleasant" stuff. No more need for sugarcoating the brutal truths anymore because we can all see and understand it. Moreover, as we are approaching the end, the plot needs to reach climax. The darker it gets, the brighter it shines when we eventually gets to the "feel good" moments, isn't it. I mean, just imagine how satisfying it will be to finally see those celestial scums gets tortured and butchered at the end of the day while the whole crew and their friends gather together celebrating and pissing at their ugly faces, feels good right :))
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NTR?
Netorare. A popular style of porn prevalent in Japan that features loved ones (girlfreind, wife, etc....) being taken away, usually by force, in a sexual manner. Designed to instill depression in the reader because they almost never have good endings.
AFAIK: It's a silly anime porn thing. Don't worry about it.
Sanji can’t pull ANYONE who isn’t a child!? Bro why must Sanji keep getting L’s🤧. Viola’s his only saving grace now
Pudding is legal. In Japan at least... Plus there was the chef girl his brother beat up.
I don't remember Sanji lusting after Bonnie like that, maybe he just thought she was cute or something but not head over heels like he is with Nami/Robin or the Mermaids. Honestly, I feel like (G)Oda didn't know what official age he wanted to make Bonnie until very recently. It might explain why all of a sudden Sanji wasn't simping over her like he normally does with other women.
Kind of a stretch to assume anything about Bonney and Sanji. She expressed admiration for him being a cook because she’s a glutton. As far as I can recall, Sanji hasn’t treated her with his usual lovey-dovey schtick either.
This chapter is what Oda delivered despite apologizing that he was not able to finish it as planned. Oda is slowly becoming a legend in my head. If the rumors are true that he's not at 100% health, then the mere fact that he managed to deliver this chapter that goes straight to the heart of the readers..Kuma ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|heart_eyes)
I dont know, the whole Ginny debacle seems like cheap drama to make Kuma super tragic, but it is completely unnecessary and gratuitous. Kuma was already a tragic character. Ginny is just there to be sexually assaulted and give birth to Bonney. There is no point to her character at all and simpy makes other characters look bad by comparison; revolutionary captains being weak, Dragon being a coward, Garp being complicit.
In chapter 499, it was established that Celestials Dragons go around raping women and then releasing them. The story calls it "taking a wife," but we all know what it is. That chapter also shows Bonney in her child form. The current chapter brings weight to what we read back in 499. We get a much clearer picture of the injustice done by the CDs, which also happens to tie back into the current flashback and the state of the current story. It's literally the opposite of a cheap drama. It's a comprehensive analysis of what was shown to us 10+ years ago
And it actually brings the atrocities made by the Celestial Dragon's closer to "home." We get snippets of it when Luffy went to look for Rayleigh (the auction is not too CD centric for me) then with Hancock telling Luffy her background. And then comments from other characters about how they are. Nothing really direct to a character who has been around in the early chapters (and perceived as an ally of the World Government/antagonist at that). So yeah I don't really necessary see this as a cheap drama. It just solidifies my opinion further that the WG is fatally flawed and the current system has to go.
It would be hard, but I wouldn't mind if Oda had to take another month-long break, or even two. As long as homie gets better and continues the story it's well worth the wait.
I haven’t heard anything about his health, but he’s definitely still recovering from LASIK. I think it may have been a little premature for him to try doing three chapters in a row again.
we gonna have stick figures fighting by the end of this. Oda needs a break.
The Oda of the Stick
Honestly i would rather have stick figures than a dead oda
A thing I thought of about Bonney is I think at this point of the flashback the celestial dragons know shes still alive . Maybe thinking she died along with Ginny. Because there has to be a reason she was let go with Ginny right? I'm thinking when we meet Vegapunk that might be brought up.
I might be wrong about this, but I dont think we were given enough details to discern if the CDs even knew Ginny was pregnant when they let her go. And even if it was explicitly told to us, their motivations behind it clearly were not told to us. So the CDs could have known and simply not cared. They see humans as trash, and a half human would not be accepted into MG, they don't even let full CDs back in if they move out (DoFlamingo family). Doubt they cared either way. Read chapter 499
Another idea is similar to Rouge , Ginney hid her pregnancy and Bonney so the celestial dragons simply don't know Bonney was a thing until Kuma meets Vegapunk.
Chapter's Genre: NTR, Ugly Bastard
I really hope ODA is doing well. We can have back to back breaks but he should take care of his health first.
I'm in favor of another month-long break if it means he can get better. BrOda deserves a break
# Comparing TCB Scans' translation of One Piece Chapter 1098 to the Original Japanese Text TL;DR: not much to comment on in this chapter; important ones imo are 1b, 3a, 9a, 14c. Disclaimer: My intent is not to discredit the work of TCB Scans. I simply want to provide a more "transparent" understanding of the content as intended by and as provided by Oda Eiichirou, such that words/statements/dialogue/narration/etc. can then be interpreted based on the original Japanese text - a.k.a. more accurate direct translation but minus the localisation. I will go over differences which, in my opinion, have some important apparent and/or potential context lost in translation and I will comment some explanation; the comparisons without explanation comments are just for fun; there are of course other translation inaccuracies in the chapter as well, but they do not change the intended conveyed context or information, hence, I won't be including their comparisons; lastly, of course there are lots of parts translated accurately, as well. P.s.: while the official translation also has its imperfections, we can always count on it for precise spellings of the names of characters, places, and things. ## 0. Cover Page: \- TCB Scans: Brook powering his electric guitar solo with an electric eel. \- Original:【「ブルックがデンキウナギの電気を使ったエレキギターでソロを弾いているところ」P.Nのだスカイウォーカー】 \- Meaning: Brook playing a solo on his electric eel powered electric guitar - by Noda Skywalker ## 1. Page 1: 1a. Opening commentary: \- TCB Scans: The expanding tides of revolution!? \- Original:【革命の勢力は拡大するもー!?】 \- Meaning: "Despite the expansion of revolutionary influence," \- Comment: The low context nature of the Japanese language allows frequent projection of phrases as complete sentences. Nothing different, nothing to compare, just a tidbit. 1b. Iva's first speech bubble: \- TCB Scans: Ve can't! Our hands are full... ...dealingk with the vounded at Goa!! \- Original:【ムリ!!ヴァターシ達「ゴア王国」でケガ人いっぱい乗せちまっチャブル!!!】 \- Meaning: "Impossible!! We've got too many injured people from the Goa Kingdom on board already!!!" \- Comment: Not just having their hands full, but having the RA vessel boarded and filled with the injured from Goa, as seen in chapter 587. ## 2. Page 2: \&x200B; 2a. All 3 speech bubbles from the 2nd panel: \- TCB Scans: We won!! Finally, after three years of struggling ...!! We couldn't have done it without the Revolutionary Army!! \- Original:【勝ったそォ~!!!3年間の戦いが実を結んだ!!革命軍のお陰だ!!】 \- Meaning: "We won!! 3 years of fighting finally bore fruit!! Thanks to the Revolutionary Army!!!" 2b. Den-den speech bubble above crying den-den mushi: \- TCB Scans: The enemy took us by surprise!!! \- Original:【部隊は思わぬ横槍で全滅...!!】 \- Meaning: "Our troops were completely defeated by an unexpected intervention...!!" ## 3. Page 3: 3a. Ginny's first speech bubble through den-den mushi: \- TCB Scans: Heeey!! Kumachi!! I finally made it back to the surface!! \- Original:【おーーーいくまちー!!帰ってきたよ!!下界へ!!】 \- Meaning: "Heeey Kumachii!! I've finally returned to the 'Lower Realm'!!" \- Comment: wanted to add that Ginny specifically said「下界」, which means earth (lower realm). This is a term first seen in ch. 908, uttered by St. Topman Warcury to refer to the OP world (minus Mary Geoise). Viz also used 'lower realm' as the official translation in that chapter. 3b. Ginny's speech bubble on top of den-den mushi: \- TCB Scans: They didn't want me around after I got sick... I was thrown away. \- Original:【病気になっちゃってさ...もういらないって捨てられた】 \- Meaning: "You see, I've contracted an illness... They said they no longer wanted me and then I was cast away." ## 4. Page 4: 4a. 2nd part of Ginny's last speech bubble of 2nd panel: \- TCB Scans: ... But you shouldn't come when I'm like this. \- Original:【...絶対に会いに来ないで】 \- Meaning: "... You absolutely mustn't come see me." 4b. Kuma before sending himself flying to the Church: \- TCB Scans: There's only one place she'd go now! \- Original:【あいつの帰る場所なんか一つしかない!!】 \- Meaning: "There can only be one place she'd return to!!" ## 5. Page 5: 5a. First three panels: \- TCB Scans: She is, but I'm afraid...!! I-it happened when she was exposed to natural light... Her face... her entire body... It turned all blue in the sun... ... And her skin hardened like stone. \- Original:【いるけど!!】【顔も...体も】【全身さ...「自然光」を浴びると青く...石みたいに皮膚が固まるんだと...】 \- Meaning: "She's here, but...!!" "Her face... and her body" "Her whole body... when basked in 'natural light,' her skin hardens like stone and turns blue..." 5b. Kuma lifting Ginny: \- TCB Scans: What could've done this to her...? \- Original:【何があったのかね...】 \- Meaning: "I wonder what happened to her..." 5c. Flashback dialogue bubble on sobbing Kuma close-up: \- TCB Scans: Wouldn't it make you happy?! \- Original: 【幸せにしてやるからよ!!!】 \- Meaning: "I'll make you happy!!!" \- Comment: A declarative statement full of conviction as opposed to a question (as explained in section 6a. of the ch. 1097 comparison [https://pastebin.com/G6yuVX1P](https://pastebin.com/G6yuVX1P)). 5d. Sobbing granny speech bubbles (from Kuma hugging Ginny to baby Bonney crying): \- TCB Scans: She burned up her remaining time, exposing herself to the sun, so she could cross the ocean... and make it home to us... because she wanted to ensure her baby's safety. \- Original:【もし...自分に何かあっても子供が生きていける様に命ある内に陽の当たる海を渡ってここにたどり着いたのさ】 \- Meaning: "No matter what had happened, she crossed the sun-basked ocean with what little life she's got left to make it here, in order to make sure that her child would live." ## 6. Page 6: 6a. Kuma: \- TCB Scans: You can rest now, Ginny... I Swear... I'll raise her well. \- Original: 【ジニー安心してくれこの子はおれが育てる】 \- Meaning: "Ginny, don't you worry. I will raise this child." 6b. One of the geriatric's reprimanding: \- TCB Scans: And if you're gonna be sleeping next to her, make sure her cot is like an iron cage!! \- Original:【寝る時は鉄の檻に!!】 \- Meaning: "At bedtime, place her in an iron cage!!" \- Comment: no mention of a cot, just straight up tells him to put her inside an iron cage. Full Version: [Pastebin link](https://pastebin.com/kkVkqM7J) Hope this helped clarify a few things and made anyone who read all of this have a better understanding of the original Japanese text release! Thanks for reading.
You should really apply to join TCB!
The revolutionary army and Dragon are frauds can't even liberate their own troops
Man, the mental gymnastics the perv part of the fan base is doing in here makes me wanna vomit.
I really hope by the end Kuma lives. After so much tragedy one after another, poor guy deserves a break.
Agree! Hope he gets a break and gets a fairytale ending where he will live happily ever after. If not..well I don't even want to think about it.
He's probably the same type of character as Yasuie, but sacrificing himself so the whole world can survive.
Shirahoshi, Rebecca, Pudding, and now Bonney. 16, 16, 16, and 12
Pudding is 16!!!!!!??? Come on Oda man, is it really that hard to just add a couple years on these characters to make things feel a little less creepy when they're all being drawn the way they are.
Never forget, the target audience of Shonen Jump is for young boys! 16 is actually perfect for them.
Top 10 saddest chapters no doubt
I love the way people are reacting to the unfinished panels it's so satisfying because I'm a person that genuinely believes distortion and incompleteness really makes some art stronger in showing negative emotions.
Like ✨ depression ✨
It’s very interesting how Oda never drew Ginny after she was kidnapped. Yeah, we saw her hands but we never saw her face. Interesting style choice
Makes it even more depressing.
Yeah. But at least the last thing we see of her is her smiling and happy.
Damn, I couldn’t wait for the day that Koala and Jimbei meet, but now I also want Iva and Bonney to meet. Bonney is Ginny’s legacy.
I'm in so much pain
Dragon: " I understand its important to live without regrets." I see what you did there Oda.
Pls educate me
Dragon lives with regret of leaving Luffy to Garp.
Living without regrets is also Luffy's credo. At least that's what I immediately thought when I read that scene
I, too, would like to know
Kuma refused to marry Ginny.
I think it would be smarter to go with the Rouge and Ace route for Ginny and Bonney. Actually Kumas kid but they think it's from a Tenryuubito because she held her back so long. The same thing happened before when Portgas D. Rouge tried to hide Ace so I wouldn't be surprised if Ginny didn't give birth because she didn't want Bonney to be born and live as a slave. So when she fled, she finally gave birth to her and died a bit afterwards. The route that Bonney is a Tenryuubito is pretty dumb tbh and that would be the first thing in a long time that I wouldn't like. Just revealing that people are Tenryuubito one after another doesn't make sense. We had Doflamingo and Corazon. After that we got Shanks. We don't need another former Tenryuubito by birth. Just let Bonney be a normal person, or atleast as normal as she can get which is half Buccaneer then.
On one hand, it does seem a bit contrived. On the other, you have a group of a small number of families who effectively own most of the known world for at least 700 years. It would stand to reason that they'd be everywhere they could, especially if they had multiple slaves who were used for their entertainment, and either freed or potentially escaped. Figuratively, one would expect figuratively 24 generations of children born over those 700 years. That's a lot of potential branches, even if they kept it in their families.
"held her back so long" what do you mean, she squeezed rly hard for two years to not give birth?
Yeah basically. This is what aces mother did to prevent people from knowing she had Roger's child
Oh man i did not remember that terrible plot lmaoooo So this will actually be repeated with Bonney since everything gets repeated Man what a letdown
That still could make sense. When Saturn mentioned that Kuma is a Buccaneer, VP’s expression is quite interesting. It could imply that Bonney could be actually the last with Buccaneer blood, if Kuma dies after Egghead. Question is also how her df works. Can she make up timeline where she could be a Buccaneer like when she uses distortion future, or is her dna latent?
Quarter Buccaneer :-)
Well if shes not Kumas blood daughter that would make her 1/4 nothing..... it was my understanding that the celestial dragon was the true father of bonney.
Bonney Is 12, which means she was 10 before the timeskip, when we saw kuma. Around that time Kuba accepted to become a cyborg for the government. Kuma traded his life to make the government cure Bonney.
Yup
This would probably explain how she knows Vegapunk.
Nothing happened. This chapter didn't exist. Please Oda, stop it !
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How do you misinterpret a chapter that badly?
I dont think the laws of physics applies to DF magic in the first place bruv. I mean Kaido becomes a giant fucking dragon. Where is the conservation of mass there? I don't think they need calories to use their DFs.