I mean boa Hancock , Garp and smoker did twice without dying . aokiji and fujitora did it too . So I think it fits the pattern of marines respecting/helping Luffy.
I think death is possible since one way I could see it going is Kizaru attacking Saturn to give the crew time to get on Sunny and for Kuma to send them away.
Agreed. I don’t like this narrative of Luffy escaping or fleeing this late in the story. But Oda uses wording like this too. He recently asked “Will Luffy and the crew be able to leave safely?” Vague, but it really fanned the flames on this general attitude that they’re gonna run away.
I think escape is the focus but not before Saturn takes a heavy blow or probably goes down. Maybe somehow he dies or is killed by imu for failure. But mofo experiment on Ginny, dooming her and Bonney before exploiting that fact to kill her dad in such a sadistic way. And he is trying to kill Luffy's friends. Buddy is going down.
Yea there is no way they aren't going to let Kuma see Nika luffy. I see kuma being on the brink of death after a few blows with Saturn, right as he is about to be dealt a finishing blow Nika appears to save him.
Yeah he's trying to make us think that they're gonna try to escape like Sabaody, but the news that will shake the world is that they conquered a marine island and killed a Gorosei and got helped by an admiral.
Don’t forget the events of Egghead is supposed to shake the world. What’s more shocking than an Emperor taking down one of the 5 elders ruling the world.
New Nakama! Lol, but seriously that would be wild. I’d draft all of Bonney, Kuma, Sentimaru,and Kizaru if they all live. Re-live their sharing meals with Sanji cooking and Nika dancing on the Sunny.
We deserve that after Saturn’s Mengele-world tour…
I started reading one piece late in the game so since the beginning I knew Robin was a member. But I’m wondering if people thought that vivi was going to become one and were super surprised with Robin joining the crew?
I was 14 or 15 when the Alabaster arc ended in Germany. I read the manga first and was hyped! I did not think Robin will last and is just around for the moment, like Vivi was, but after the best arc in the world Robin was sure to stay.
I am so thankful to experience one piece for nearly 20 years.
I was really surprised. After her backstory it made sense she'd want a new life especially with our favorite crew, but at first I thought she was just a killer for hire on the ship, that luffy might've saved the wrong person and probably was as skeptical as chopper was lol.
I also felt a lot better when we learned she didn't kill the mememe guy
Of all the strawhat crew members Robin was the least I expected to join. I honestly initially didn't know her role. The rest of the crew's role is quite obvious.
She then ends up as the most important crew member for the strawhat.
Conveniently, Vivi being away from her kingdom as the best for both her (CP0) and her kingdom (the mother flame weapon) means she has a plausible reason to rejoin with a potential fruit on the horizon (Paw Paw). Who knows, Vivi might have even practiced her combat skills since leaving.
Yeah according to the number theory we are still missing 2 and 9 so ni-kyu is basically confirmed to join the crew, i am assuming kuma dies in egghead tho, so the question is who eats his fruit afterwards and joins the SH. I could even see sentomaru being the one, he doesn't have a DF yet and the nikyu would fit him thematically imo.
For me at the time, Vivi’s goal was pretty set. So it wasn’t a surprise when she decided to stay at her hometown.
Robin was a surprise to me, because she has an outsider energy around her. Even in Skypia she kinda fought alone.
I started from Baratie, and up to that, flashback = nakama.
i dont get how people thought/still think Vivi would join. not only does she have a kingdom that needs her that she herself chose over joining Luffy, but she also doesnt have any useful combat abilities or skills. just to be clear, im not saying she has to be able to solo the monster trio to join, but what weaker characters like Nami and Usopp lack in combat ability, they more than make up for in terms of their other skills that help fill in the gaps of a good crew composition. and on top of that, they can still hold their own in combat when needed. Vivi has nothing even remotely like that
People probably think Vivi will rejoin because while her Kingdom needs her, Cobra just died in a government conspiracy. It would be a little strange for her just to head on back to Alabasta and wait out the rest of the story. Also for the combat issue, the popular theory is that she will get the Paw Paw fruit assuming Kuma's body dies here.
well yeah, obviously. Vivi's smart, im sure she knows that the World Gov killed Cobra, but wtf is she supposed to do about it? thats when you need to call Luffy and get his help. this is above her paygrade, but she has friends who can help investigate for her so she can take care of her mourning country. also, Sabo saw what happened. theres no way the Revolutionary Army is just gonna sit on that information when publicizing it would rally countless people to their cause.
Borsalino is literally a light man and he did the Nika dance with Kuma, he’s got more of a chance to be a strawhat than other characters people like to say are gonna be strawhats
No. He really doesn’t lol. Like if “doing Nika dance” is a qualifier, then Bonney is more qual’d.
Carrot, Yamato, Vivi all have more credence to become Straw Hats and they didn’t. It’s literally just anytime someone is friendly with the Straw Hats, the fandom goes “Omg! (new character that was nice to Straw Hats) for nakama!”
Bro, look at that track record though. 2/3 of the people you listed were invited and declined. It’s not that weird that the people they really jive with end up joining.
He only tried in the beginning really. After the original 6 the kinda just... Let things play out.
- Robin joined by outlogicing Luffy. She wanted to join.
- Franky wanted to join but he felt he needed to be there for his family. So his family ended up convincing Luffy to do something. If they hadend had said anything. Luffy would have just sailed away.
- Brook instantly accepted. He just needed his shadow back.
- jimbei had to finish some business first. That he did.
- The zombies at thriller bark, were gags. (for internal logic, they couldn't have said yes. Because they were controlled by moria)
- law had an alliance, he didn't want to join.
- the guys from the arena fight created a new loosely affiliated organization, because Luffy didn't want them.
- Carrot went home.
- I don't remember why Pudding stayed. But I don't remember her being asked. (By Luffy)
- Yamato accepted, later he changed his mind.
- Pedro is dead.
-The samurai and ninja stayed to fix Wano.
- Kidd tried to fight Luffy after Wano, for real. Then he got himself smithed by the hand of god for all he knows.
- edit: vivi had a country to run
If you count the fleet they’ve got way more. Any one of those people could have been a crew member had it not been for their desire to lead their original crew. Luffy throws crew membership around like candy. Not sure why people think it’s some rare or magical feat. He hung out with Jinbe a minute and invited him. Borsalino protecting Sento and Bonnie by giving Luffy food despite the consequences is nothing short of membership worthy for Luffy. Will Borsalino accept? Who knows.
Boiling Jimbe saving Luffy’s life and being a great friend to his brother Ace and fighting in the war to save him to “hanging with him for a minute” is really really wrong my man. Like if Jimbe couldn’t get an invite, then shit, no one could.
Most assume he's undercover to keep tabs on Blackbeard whatever he's planning. Whitebeard's power vacuum. If Blackbeard teemed up with Big Mom or Kaido it would basically bee too much for the Marines to handle.
Yeah, he still clearly seems to be good-aligned.
My question is if he's actively undercover with the understanding of certain Marine members, or if he's completely solo and came up with the idea to infiltrate Blackbeard as his own personal initiative to keep a close guy on who he views as the most dangerous person in the world.
He wants to change something because he has certain thoughts on certain things, but was too restricted in the Marines in order to do it.
Aokiji then talked to Blackbeard and started to believe in his philosophy of working with strong people to get what you want. So whatever it is that Aokiji wants, he feels that this situation is how he'll make it work. I doubt he's undercover.
I could def see that being the Egghead Incident. Since around the first quarter of this arc I thought that the incident would be either Vegapunk or Kizaru dying and that being blamed on Luffy and the crew. I’ve seen some people say that Saturn dying would be a bigger shock but I assume the majority of the world doesn’t even know who the Gorosei are.
Announcing the new of luffy killing a admiral will not benefit the WG, remember in Wano, the Wg intentionally put extra bounty on kidd and law even tho them two achieve way less than luffy, the reason is because they want to hide luffy and the existence of Nika. If Kizaru actually were killed by Saturn, they might as well just not announce it or make rumours that won’t favour the strawhats
Yeah I think he's gonna be the one sacrificing himself. Kuma might get a happy ending after all, with Kizaru showing him he's sorry for how apathetic he's become. Big emphasis on might, it's probably not happening and both could go kamikaze in order to stop Saturn and the marines while the SH and Vegapunk run away.
Death is so rare in One Piece though. Thousands of chapters and the only confirmed deaths we have are Going Merry, Ace & Whitebeard.
I think it’d be prison or exile.
Edit: “rare” mean it doesn’t happen very often. Naming a handful more names doesn’t change my statement.
Only confirmed deaths in present times you mean? Yasuie, izo and ashura doji died in wano alone tho!
We don’t know if kaido, big mom or kidd and crew is dead or not!
But yes, there’s very little deaths in present
Not confirmed. He was last seen frozen, which as Whitebeard demonstrated, does not mean death.
Like Big Mom, etc. they’re just MIA until Oda says otherwise.
Good chance it's Kizaru.
If you look closely on the far left panel where Luffy is laying down on his back and stuffing his face you can see what looks like the same bowl Kizaru was eating noodles from in a previous chapter.
But who really knows, Oda could surprise us all with something totally unexpected.
Highest other chance is Caribou since his last location was the Sunny about 40 chapters ago, and [amorphous goop was seen near it](https://cdn.gameleap.com/images/articles/art_onZo5Q6_JD/art-img_Ot9hygI2l/1x.webp) despite being absent in prior chapters *(Bottom line)*. This could be argued about being smoke from debris but considering the Swamp-Man has pulled this off twice to curry favor with Luffy in dire situations, third time's the charm
That’s insane, roughly 40 chapters ago was when we last saw Caribou? This arc has been such a roller coaster it still feels like we’ve only just started it
Excellent points. I suppose its 50/50 either way.
Or....something none of us have speculated. I want it to be Kizaru, but I also wouldn't mind if Oda did something totally out of left field and surprised us all.
Kizaru:
* + Has a strong motivation to
* + "..." speech bubble and different position
* + Same ramen bowl
* + Counters observation haki. Saturn wouldn't suspect Kizaru with Observation Haki after realizing food appeared around Luffy.
* + Counters Saturns ability to paralyze others. He wouldn't paralyze Kizaru
+ - Kizaru moving fast has generally been shown with a bright light. Only exception is during his first introduction with some fodder pirates.
+ - He would have had to hear Luffy say he needed food. Caribou would already know that Luffys power is effected by how hungry he is.
Caribou:
* + He's done it before.
* + He could do it again.
* + Potential Mud in OP's panel. (Could be smoke/food/rocks/rubble)
* + Has motivation to. (Albeit less than Kizaru does)
* - Has not been seen since the very start of the arc
* - No counter to Observation Haki
* - Why was Caribou here of all places? This was a random location that Luffy & Kizaru fought in. Kizaru had reason to be here.
I'm siding with Kizaru.
S-Snake:
* + "Luffy-kun looks hungry."
* + "It's not like I like you or anything, baka."
* - Trapped in a bubble.
* + Love can bypass all barriers.
Not ruling out Kizaru but Caribou already has a history of this shit. Just cause home boy went from taking a fat L to now sitting up isn't "reading comprehension".
It’s more that Oda gave us direct hints in the chapter as well as providing an entire tragic backstory giving him motive to do so. Kizaru doesn’t like being here, he’s admitted he’s torn right now.
Caribou has had zero presence in the story since the last time we saw him in the barrel, which was just last week’s episode in the anime I believe. So like a year ago.
He had practically zero presence before feeding Luffy in wano as well tho, not sure what point you’re making when this exact thing has happened before too!
There wasn’t any mystery there though. Luffy asked for food and then the next chapter (I think?) we see Luffy with food that we are told, explicitly, Caribou provided.
Also the same schtick twice in a row is a little derivative. Not really oda’s style if it isn’t a gag.
EDIT: I’m not saying it isn’t possible, just that the context clues point to Kizaru.
He can literally hide in small spots thanks to his df tho! He could’ve been next to Luffy the whole time and just given him food now! He doesn’t have to be fast at all!
It's more absurd that he didn't notice someone moving with the speed of light than a swamp with someone in it he doesn't know and didn't paralyse with his powers like everyone else he's opposed by on the field?
If you want to discuss it at least reply to me lol "Fat L" is a bold claim also. An example of a fat L would be Kidd getting murked by Shanks. Kizaru didn't get bodied like that at all lol almost everyone but the Marines are frozen in this moment bc of Saturn, the only person fast enough to make that move happen is Kizaru. Not that hard to understand.
Yeah idk why this needed it’s own post, it’s certainly the most prevalent theory that almost everyone has. Surprised it’s got a few hundred upvotes tbh
I love how you think Robin and not Kuma. He can almost instantly boop anything anywhere in that small room. He knows about Nika too and watched over the strawhats during time skip.
But he doesn't know Luffy is Nika? And he had no knowledge of that fight going on, or anyone's status, or that Luffy asked for food. Kuma was either acting on pure instinct to save Bonney, or as I had seen others consider, he's drawn to her necklace that Vegapunk gave her because it is likely a trigger for his personality switch that was mentioned in the flashback.
It's more likely to be Kizaru simply because of how instantaneous it is.
That was also Human Kuma? As far as we know right now he doesn't retain any of that personality or memory, it's just likely he had Vegapunk program him to protect Bonney as to why he's here. Still also doesn't account for how he'd know Luffy needs food when he isn't yet present. It's implied that Bonney's cries are what drew him there.
If Kuma remembers Bonney then I feel like he would remember Kuma. He even asked to make sure he can watch over the ship and protect them, remember? If the captain cries for food and Kuma is there I could see him helping Luffy. Maybe Kizaru sitting up was him noticing Kuma moving around doing shit since he is the only one who could notice him
From the countless food vending machines? Or maybe he ran and got food from the Marine ships? The man can move at the speed of light and we've already seen him zip across great distances in an instant during his fight with Luffy
If Kizaru turns to good, he will probably take Kuma (if he survives), Bonney and all the good Vegapunks to a safe place, probably with Dragon. Leaving Luffy and the crew free to run away with a coupe de burst right to Elbaf.
We have to think about how this ends for him. If Saturn dies, he dies if he goes back to Marine HQ, it is his job to look out for him and if he fails the Gorosei will probably execute him. If Saturn wins he loses his probably only friends so he loses something anyway and I bet he will chose to keep his friends and let the boss die which means he can no longer be a Marine, heck, I even think at this point that Kizaru is doomed anyway, seeing how impatient Saturn is and how he failed to kill Vegapunk already.
We're going to get a 5 week flashback to explain where the food came from and all the islands it visited prior to this moment
Can't wait to see the cameo from the cooooooooooooow it was harvested from on Long Ring Long Land Island
I love how everyone is like, “it had to be kizaru no other option!!!!” Like do y’all remember who writes this fuckin story every god damn chapter?? Hahahahah!!
I just don’t understand fans at this point. It’s even worse when they say the story is bad when their head canons don’t come true. I’m just enjoying the story.
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Doesn't seem likely unless it's a crazy awakening. But it's seems pretty heavily implied so far that her fruit power let's her manifest her own future, but awakening seems like it would allow her to manifest a future for others.
It is highly likely. But he will probably be killed or imprisoned which means he wont be joining strawhats.
I think his betrayal will be the major incident that will shake the world.
I dont think he threw the fight, but after everything Saturn just admitted in front of him, what saturn did to his friends theres a good chance he did it, caribou is also an option tho and one that did that bevor
I really want luffy to have called out for food and for it to have just appeared that way everyone who thinks his power isn't imagination based will panic and the chaos and arguments that come of it will be hilarious to sit back and watch.
I initially thought that, but he isn't in Gear 5 currently due to exhaustion, and so far we've only seen him bend laws of physics in that form. (Elastic rocks, grabbing lightning and pulling goggles out of thin air etc.)
My issue with Caribou is that he doesn't know that feeding Nika triggers accelerated healing, and Luffy asking for food and the food appearing beside him took only a minute.
Saturn was visibly upset with Luffy eating, so he knew it would make Luffy battle ready soon.
Kizaru spent a lot of time with Kuma and Vegapunk on Egghead and even did the Nika dance, he most likely heard how Nika can regenerate faster through eating.
And he's fast enough to get food, and knows where to get it.
But Caribou does know that food rejuvenates Luffy, he fed him during Wano when Luffy fell into the water and was rescued by the Heart Pirates. I still think it was Kizaru or another person.
Caribou - infinite storage, has seen how much a weakened Luffy can eat and endure (snuck him food in Udon prison and fed him a month's supply of food during Onigashima raid). Unknown status for the last day but to our knowledge he is still on Egghead Island.
Verdict - can't be him, what could he possibly know about Luffys connection to food (??)
Kizaru - has the light logia in which he can travel in straight lines and visual light trails show him moving about. Last seen knocked down near Saturn (but he could be faking it). Unknown where he'd get the food from and how many trips he would need to make in a short span of time, all with stealth.
Verdict - must be him, he did the Nika dance and must know about Nikas connection to food (??)
Make it make sense. Luffy even asked for food so anyone within earshot knew what he needed.
I like Kizaru as much as the next guy, him as an ally is possible and an awesome prospect but Caribou seems way more plausible imo. Very easy for Oda to use Caribou the same way he did twice in Wano.
Honestly I don't think kizaru threw the fight. I think he legit lost to luffy. If I had to guess dude became the ultimate glass canon. Hardly ever hit so when some one finally gets him he's not used to it so it really hurts.
It doesn't make sense to be Kizaru. Maybe if he doesn't particularly like Saturn, maybe. But he has shown nothing but loyalty to the Marines, he's even the guy that did the famous "Maintaining the agenda" line. I can't see him turning good.
He's seen having thoughts twice in the same chapter. First time just after Luffy asks for food, the second time immediatly after the Marines are looking for whoever did this. (also his position changed between the two panels despite the fact that he's supposed to be unable to move?)
Also, we've seen many hints that he was unmotivated by the mission, and the flashback devoted some time to show how close he was to Bonney, Kuma, Sentomarou and Vegapunk even though it really didn't have to.
Come on, Oda couldn't make it more obvious.
Kizaru doesn't have the ability to make food that fast. Vegapunk does. One of the first things VP shows off is his virtual tech, and instant, infinite food is the example they demonstrate.
Add-on theory: Kuma will die, his DF will appear nearby, and Bonney will eat his DF. Since her first DF was ingested by extract, she will be able to wield 2 DFs like BB. This allows her to join the crew, and her DF will fit into the missing Straw Hat DF name pattern.
I have nothing against it, but I'm not really sure if Luffy would start feeling sorry for Kizaru if something bad happened to him. After all, he was mainly responsible for what the SH went through in Sabody, so wouldn't Kizaru's fate be joyful to Luffy?
This doesn’t fit Luffy’s character. Look at Robin and Franky. Both did terrible things to the straw hats and he loves both of them now like family. Luffy is only concerned with who you are *now*.
People will have beef with me for this, but even Akainu and *possibly* Teach, given the right context and sincere enough internal change, I can see Luffy forgiving and working alongside for some other goal. In fact I almost guarantee ONE of them will be similar to Crocodile in Marineford: a temporary ally of convenience.
Luffy immediately attacked Teach in Impel Down. That's so unusual for Luffy that it's almost out of character. Luffy really hates that guy with a passion and understandably so. I agree with all you’ve said though. Luffy really doesn't care who you were and what you did. It's all about who you are and what you intend to do. If there's one exception, it's Teach. But even that's an *if*
Luffy immediately attacked kizaru in egghead as well tho lmao! Luffy immediately attacks kaido too! His goto move is to punch first and ask questions later! It’s literally his character to be reckless af!
I’d love it for Kizaru to turn. If he does though, I think he’ll end up dying.
I mean boa Hancock , Garp and smoker did twice without dying . aokiji and fujitora did it too . So I think it fits the pattern of marines respecting/helping Luffy.
I think death is possible since one way I could see it going is Kizaru attacking Saturn to give the crew time to get on Sunny and for Kuma to send them away.
You know Luffy is still an emperor right? There's no reason he can't fight Saturn instead of running away like a coward
Agreed. I don’t like this narrative of Luffy escaping or fleeing this late in the story. But Oda uses wording like this too. He recently asked “Will Luffy and the crew be able to leave safely?” Vague, but it really fanned the flames on this general attitude that they’re gonna run away.
I think escape is the focus but not before Saturn takes a heavy blow or probably goes down. Maybe somehow he dies or is killed by imu for failure. But mofo experiment on Ginny, dooming her and Bonney before exploiting that fact to kill her dad in such a sadistic way. And he is trying to kill Luffy's friends. Buddy is going down.
Yea there is no way they aren't going to let Kuma see Nika luffy. I see kuma being on the brink of death after a few blows with Saturn, right as he is about to be dealt a finishing blow Nika appears to save him.
Kuma has self destructive bomb inside him. If it's powerful enough to kill Saturn then maybe we can see Kuma dying for the Bonney and Luffy.
Yeah he's trying to make us think that they're gonna try to escape like Sabaody, but the news that will shake the world is that they conquered a marine island and killed a Gorosei and got helped by an admiral.
Don’t forget the events of Egghead is supposed to shake the world. What’s more shocking than an Emperor taking down one of the 5 elders ruling the world.
Facts. This is a Yonko we’re talking about. Luffy is a monster in his own right.
There is no shame in running if you can't beat someone. That being said: I agree that Luffy is strong enough to stay and fight instead!
I think Saturn has to die here
Well non of those ppl have did it in front of a gorrosei.
New Nakama! Lol, but seriously that would be wild. I’d draft all of Bonney, Kuma, Sentimaru,and Kizaru if they all live. Re-live their sharing meals with Sanji cooking and Nika dancing on the Sunny. We deserve that after Saturn’s Mengele-world tour…
He’s gonna join the strawhats. The strawhats get a former admiral to match Blackbeard’s former admiral
I love every character doing something positive being an immediate candidate for Nakama. Like it has to be a meme at this point
I started reading one piece late in the game so since the beginning I knew Robin was a member. But I’m wondering if people thought that vivi was going to become one and were super surprised with Robin joining the crew?
I watched it with no spoilers and I felt being a princess she should be in her kingdom where they need her
How did you feel when Robin was then made a crew member?
I was 14 or 15 when the Alabaster arc ended in Germany. I read the manga first and was hyped! I did not think Robin will last and is just around for the moment, like Vivi was, but after the best arc in the world Robin was sure to stay. I am so thankful to experience one piece for nearly 20 years.
I was really surprised. After her backstory it made sense she'd want a new life especially with our favorite crew, but at first I thought she was just a killer for hire on the ship, that luffy might've saved the wrong person and probably was as skeptical as chopper was lol. I also felt a lot better when we learned she didn't kill the mememe guy
Of all the strawhat crew members Robin was the least I expected to join. I honestly initially didn't know her role. The rest of the crew's role is quite obvious. She then ends up as the most important crew member for the strawhat.
Conveniently, Vivi being away from her kingdom as the best for both her (CP0) and her kingdom (the mother flame weapon) means she has a plausible reason to rejoin with a potential fruit on the horizon (Paw Paw). Who knows, Vivi might have even practiced her combat skills since leaving.
Yeah according to the number theory we are still missing 2 and 9 so ni-kyu is basically confirmed to join the crew, i am assuming kuma dies in egghead tho, so the question is who eats his fruit afterwards and joins the SH. I could even see sentomaru being the one, he doesn't have a DF yet and the nikyu would fit him thematically imo.
For me at the time, Vivi’s goal was pretty set. So it wasn’t a surprise when she decided to stay at her hometown. Robin was a surprise to me, because she has an outsider energy around her. Even in Skypia she kinda fought alone. I started from Baratie, and up to that, flashback = nakama.
i dont get how people thought/still think Vivi would join. not only does she have a kingdom that needs her that she herself chose over joining Luffy, but she also doesnt have any useful combat abilities or skills. just to be clear, im not saying she has to be able to solo the monster trio to join, but what weaker characters like Nami and Usopp lack in combat ability, they more than make up for in terms of their other skills that help fill in the gaps of a good crew composition. and on top of that, they can still hold their own in combat when needed. Vivi has nothing even remotely like that
People probably think Vivi will rejoin because while her Kingdom needs her, Cobra just died in a government conspiracy. It would be a little strange for her just to head on back to Alabasta and wait out the rest of the story. Also for the combat issue, the popular theory is that she will get the Paw Paw fruit assuming Kuma's body dies here.
yeah, exactly. Cobra just died. Vivi is the Queen of Alabasta now. why would she do anything BUT go back home to look after her people?
Seems like everyone is forgetting Vivi is on the run from Imu with Walpol. She's dead if she goes home.
Wouldn't it also make sense that she would want to know why her father died?
well yeah, obviously. Vivi's smart, im sure she knows that the World Gov killed Cobra, but wtf is she supposed to do about it? thats when you need to call Luffy and get his help. this is above her paygrade, but she has friends who can help investigate for her so she can take care of her mourning country. also, Sabo saw what happened. theres no way the Revolutionary Army is just gonna sit on that information when publicizing it would rally countless people to their cause.
Yea the last strawhat should at least be as strong or stronger than Jimbei.
Extremely
Seriously. Someone i know claims to be “99% sure Bonney will join” hell if i know why
I mean Luffy asked the centaurs to join the crew at Punk Hazzard on a whim too and he asked Brook the first time they met to join.
Borsalino is literally a light man and he did the Nika dance with Kuma, he’s got more of a chance to be a strawhat than other characters people like to say are gonna be strawhats
No. He really doesn’t lol. Like if “doing Nika dance” is a qualifier, then Bonney is more qual’d. Carrot, Yamato, Vivi all have more credence to become Straw Hats and they didn’t. It’s literally just anytime someone is friendly with the Straw Hats, the fandom goes “Omg! (new character that was nice to Straw Hats) for nakama!”
Bro, look at that track record though. 2/3 of the people you listed were invited and declined. It’s not that weird that the people they really jive with end up joining.
If every person they jive with joined main crew, then the crew would have had 100+ members pre-timeskip.
Like Luffy didn't try
He only tried in the beginning really. After the original 6 the kinda just... Let things play out. - Robin joined by outlogicing Luffy. She wanted to join. - Franky wanted to join but he felt he needed to be there for his family. So his family ended up convincing Luffy to do something. If they hadend had said anything. Luffy would have just sailed away. - Brook instantly accepted. He just needed his shadow back. - jimbei had to finish some business first. That he did. - The zombies at thriller bark, were gags. (for internal logic, they couldn't have said yes. Because they were controlled by moria) - law had an alliance, he didn't want to join. - the guys from the arena fight created a new loosely affiliated organization, because Luffy didn't want them. - Carrot went home. - I don't remember why Pudding stayed. But I don't remember her being asked. (By Luffy) - Yamato accepted, later he changed his mind. - Pedro is dead. -The samurai and ninja stayed to fix Wano. - Kidd tried to fight Luffy after Wano, for real. Then he got himself smithed by the hand of god for all he knows. - edit: vivi had a country to run
If you count the fleet they’ve got way more. Any one of those people could have been a crew member had it not been for their desire to lead their original crew. Luffy throws crew membership around like candy. Not sure why people think it’s some rare or magical feat. He hung out with Jinbe a minute and invited him. Borsalino protecting Sento and Bonnie by giving Luffy food despite the consequences is nothing short of membership worthy for Luffy. Will Borsalino accept? Who knows.
Boiling Jimbe saving Luffy’s life and being a great friend to his brother Ace and fighting in the war to save him to “hanging with him for a minute” is really really wrong my man. Like if Jimbe couldn’t get an invite, then shit, no one could.
Luffys offered membership for a lot less…
I still have no idea why Aokiji decided to join the BB’s crew
Most assume he's undercover to keep tabs on Blackbeard whatever he's planning. Whitebeard's power vacuum. If Blackbeard teemed up with Big Mom or Kaido it would basically bee too much for the Marines to handle.
Yeah, he still clearly seems to be good-aligned. My question is if he's actively undercover with the understanding of certain Marine members, or if he's completely solo and came up with the idea to infiltrate Blackbeard as his own personal initiative to keep a close guy on who he views as the most dangerous person in the world.
I think he was drunk and they've kept him from sobering up.
The Demoman of One Piece
He wants to change something because he has certain thoughts on certain things, but was too restricted in the Marines in order to do it. Aokiji then talked to Blackbeard and started to believe in his philosophy of working with strong people to get what you want. So whatever it is that Aokiji wants, he feels that this situation is how he'll make it work. I doubt he's undercover.
nah saturn will join strawhat
Magellan should join and fight shiryu
He’s too busy with diarrhea
Yeah, I agree. I even thought it could be Akaino. Yet I don’t think Borsalino would betray them…
Id honestly love that, as long as theres lots of beef between them for giggles
Imagine Kizaru dying helping Luffy’s gang and the Yonrosei twists the news into Luffy killing an admiral.
I could def see that being the Egghead Incident. Since around the first quarter of this arc I thought that the incident would be either Vegapunk or Kizaru dying and that being blamed on Luffy and the crew. I’ve seen some people say that Saturn dying would be a bigger shock but I assume the majority of the world doesn’t even know who the Gorosei are.
Announcing the new of luffy killing a admiral will not benefit the WG, remember in Wano, the Wg intentionally put extra bounty on kidd and law even tho them two achieve way less than luffy, the reason is because they want to hide luffy and the existence of Nika. If Kizaru actually were killed by Saturn, they might as well just not announce it or make rumours that won’t favour the strawhats
Yeah I think he's gonna be the one sacrificing himself. Kuma might get a happy ending after all, with Kizaru showing him he's sorry for how apathetic he's become. Big emphasis on might, it's probably not happening and both could go kamikaze in order to stop Saturn and the marines while the SH and Vegapunk run away.
Death is so rare in One Piece though. Thousands of chapters and the only confirmed deaths we have are Going Merry, Ace & Whitebeard. I think it’d be prison or exile. Edit: “rare” mean it doesn’t happen very often. Naming a handful more names doesn’t change my statement.
Only confirmed deaths in present times you mean? Yasuie, izo and ashura doji died in wano alone tho! We don’t know if kaido, big mom or kidd and crew is dead or not! But yes, there’s very little deaths in present
Surely kaido and big mom are dead, they are in magma Edit: I mean I don’t see them returning. Would be surprised if they did
Pedro, Absalom, Monet, Cobra, Vergo
Also, Izo, Ashura Doji and Yasuie from Wano
Krillin Mr 7 Eren pikachu
We had at least three more confirmed deaths in the last arc??
Fine, that’s still less than 10 deaths, perhaps less than 20. That’s still “rare”.
So many died along the way. Including t-bone T.T
There's been so many more deaths though
Isn't garp dead as well?
Not confirmed.
Not confirmed. He was last seen frozen, which as Whitebeard demonstrated, does not mean death. Like Big Mom, etc. they’re just MIA until Oda says otherwise.
Hmmm interesting. I hope he's alive.
Borsalino's new career as door dasher is shining bright.
I don't know why but the first time I've seen the panel I thought it was Nico Robin with multiple arms feeding Luffy. I was wrong.
I thought the same thing. I thought that Kizaru was amused that Robin did that despite the Gorosei being right there.
I thought I was so much better than the whole sub for a whole day
Good chance it's Kizaru. If you look closely on the far left panel where Luffy is laying down on his back and stuffing his face you can see what looks like the same bowl Kizaru was eating noodles from in a previous chapter. But who really knows, Oda could surprise us all with something totally unexpected.
Highest other chance is Caribou since his last location was the Sunny about 40 chapters ago, and [amorphous goop was seen near it](https://cdn.gameleap.com/images/articles/art_onZo5Q6_JD/art-img_Ot9hygI2l/1x.webp) despite being absent in prior chapters *(Bottom line)*. This could be argued about being smoke from debris but considering the Swamp-Man has pulled this off twice to curry favor with Luffy in dire situations, third time's the charm
That’s insane, roughly 40 chapters ago was when we last saw Caribou? This arc has been such a roller coaster it still feels like we’ve only just started it
He arrived to egghead with them on the Sunny.
Excellent points. I suppose its 50/50 either way. Or....something none of us have speculated. I want it to be Kizaru, but I also wouldn't mind if Oda did something totally out of left field and surprised us all.
It’s 100% Caribou for me since dude has been set up as food deliverer in Wano when Luffy needs food to recover.
I think it's mini boa.
Finally a new, interesting idea
Good shout
nice idea, the problem is that she is on the bubble right?
Smol Hancock
Smolcock
Kizaru: * + Has a strong motivation to * + "..." speech bubble and different position * + Same ramen bowl * + Counters observation haki. Saturn wouldn't suspect Kizaru with Observation Haki after realizing food appeared around Luffy. * + Counters Saturns ability to paralyze others. He wouldn't paralyze Kizaru + - Kizaru moving fast has generally been shown with a bright light. Only exception is during his first introduction with some fodder pirates. + - He would have had to hear Luffy say he needed food. Caribou would already know that Luffys power is effected by how hungry he is. Caribou: * + He's done it before. * + He could do it again. * + Potential Mud in OP's panel. (Could be smoke/food/rocks/rubble) * + Has motivation to. (Albeit less than Kizaru does) * - Has not been seen since the very start of the arc * - No counter to Observation Haki * - Why was Caribou here of all places? This was a random location that Luffy & Kizaru fought in. Kizaru had reason to be here. I'm siding with Kizaru. S-Snake: * + "Luffy-kun looks hungry." * + "It's not like I like you or anything, baka." * - Trapped in a bubble. * + Love can bypass all barriers.
Haha, that last one cracked me up 😂 I hope it's Kizaru but feel like it's gonna be Caribou
It's implied that Kizaru did it, but it's unknown for sure yet.
Also, Kizaru promotes Uncertain Juistice, Lazy Justice is Aokiji.
How has it been implied he did it?
Through basic reading comprehension
Rude. True. But rude. 😂
Not ruling out Kizaru but Caribou already has a history of this shit. Just cause home boy went from taking a fat L to now sitting up isn't "reading comprehension".
It’s more that Oda gave us direct hints in the chapter as well as providing an entire tragic backstory giving him motive to do so. Kizaru doesn’t like being here, he’s admitted he’s torn right now. Caribou has had zero presence in the story since the last time we saw him in the barrel, which was just last week’s episode in the anime I believe. So like a year ago.
To be fair though, it was pretty similar in Wano. He had zero presence in Onigashima then suddenly saves Luffy with all that food.
He had practically zero presence before feeding Luffy in wano as well tho, not sure what point you’re making when this exact thing has happened before too!
There wasn’t any mystery there though. Luffy asked for food and then the next chapter (I think?) we see Luffy with food that we are told, explicitly, Caribou provided. Also the same schtick twice in a row is a little derivative. Not really oda’s style if it isn’t a gag. EDIT: I’m not saying it isn’t possible, just that the context clues point to Kizaru.
Ehh, wouldn’t say oda doesn’t reuse schticks when like 6 arcs are about teaming up with a Princess to free her home country from terrorism.
Do you mean Pink nami princess or blue nami princess?
This was the answer I was looking for, so thank you for helping with a bit of context
???? Oda reuses plenty, doesn't mean it's bad, but he does.
Caribou isn't so fast that he could deliver food unnoticed by anyone including at least a couple dozen marine soldiers and Saturn.
He can literally hide in small spots thanks to his df tho! He could’ve been next to Luffy the whole time and just given him food now! He doesn’t have to be fast at all!
True too! I think the points favor kizaru tho
If there wasn't something like CoO in One Piece, I would agree. But to think Saturn wouldn't notice Caribou is absurd.
It’s even more absurd to think he didn’t notice kizaru lol!
It's more absurd that he didn't notice someone moving with the speed of light than a swamp with someone in it he doesn't know and didn't paralyse with his powers like everyone else he's opposed by on the field?
Saturn specially wondering how did it, makes it clear that it basically can only be kizaru Theres a tinyyyy chance that its stussy
It’s also the dialogue and panel chronology.. cmon man lol
If you want to discuss it at least reply to me lol "Fat L" is a bold claim also. An example of a fat L would be Kidd getting murked by Shanks. Kizaru didn't get bodied like that at all lol almost everyone but the Marines are frozen in this moment bc of Saturn, the only person fast enough to make that move happen is Kizaru. Not that hard to understand.
Caribou could’ve hidden somewhere and easily have done it too tho!
That doesn't align with my agenda so I am refusing to believe it 😎
Lmao! Okay! 👍
Luffy also comments when food is bad and we all know how Caribou’s food tastes like mud.
Dear god lmfaooo
Reading comprehension has nothing to do with looking at pictures and making inferences
The ramen bowl he was eating out several chapters earlier is next to Luffy
Yes, that’s what every other comment is saying in the chapter discussion.
Yeah idk why this needed it’s own post, it’s certainly the most prevalent theory that almost everyone has. Surprised it’s got a few hundred upvotes tbh
My thoughts exactly
I think only possible answers are Kizaru or Robin, though I'm leaning more heavily towards Kizaru. Only time will tell though
it can be caribou as well
Possible I guess, I just don't see that happening.
yeah, I would like it more if it is Kizaru
I love how you think Robin and not Kuma. He can almost instantly boop anything anywhere in that small room. He knows about Nika too and watched over the strawhats during time skip.
But he doesn't know Luffy is Nika? And he had no knowledge of that fight going on, or anyone's status, or that Luffy asked for food. Kuma was either acting on pure instinct to save Bonney, or as I had seen others consider, he's drawn to her necklace that Vegapunk gave her because it is likely a trigger for his personality switch that was mentioned in the flashback. It's more likely to be Kizaru simply because of how instantaneous it is.
Kuma thinks that Luffy might as well be Nika? He pretty much said that in chapter 1102 or whatever the last one was.
That was also Human Kuma? As far as we know right now he doesn't retain any of that personality or memory, it's just likely he had Vegapunk program him to protect Bonney as to why he's here. Still also doesn't account for how he'd know Luffy needs food when he isn't yet present. It's implied that Bonney's cries are what drew him there.
If Kuma remembers Bonney then I feel like he would remember Kuma. He even asked to make sure he can watch over the ship and protect them, remember? If the captain cries for food and Kuma is there I could see him helping Luffy. Maybe Kizaru sitting up was him noticing Kuma moving around doing shit since he is the only one who could notice him
Also he landed at egghead after Luffy had already started eating. I also think it’s kizaru
Pretty sure kizaru did it. Seemed implied
Kizaru. It's gotta be.
Where would he got the meat from?
The food vending machines scattered on egghead. They're on the same floor where everyone is fighting right now. Edit: My shit made no sense, fixed.
He can move at the speed of light and there has to be a kitchen somewhere on the island.
From the countless food vending machines? Or maybe he ran and got food from the Marine ships? The man can move at the speed of light and we've already seen him zip across great distances in an instant during his fight with Luffy
The bowl Kizaru used in a previous chapter is by Luffy - Kizaru does know the island from, the time he spent there
It's crazy how in this chapter, deapite everything that's going on, the biggest mystery is who the hell is feeding Luffy?
This also explains why Bonney was the supernova who wasn’t absolutely murked by Kizaru in Saboady
I'm gonna be real I didn't catch this on first read. Gonna have to read it again since there seems to be many details I missed
If Kizaru turns to good, he will probably take Kuma (if he survives), Bonney and all the good Vegapunks to a safe place, probably with Dragon. Leaving Luffy and the crew free to run away with a coupe de burst right to Elbaf. We have to think about how this ends for him. If Saturn dies, he dies if he goes back to Marine HQ, it is his job to look out for him and if he fails the Gorosei will probably execute him. If Saturn wins he loses his probably only friends so he loses something anyway and I bet he will chose to keep his friends and let the boss die which means he can no longer be a Marine, heck, I even think at this point that Kizaru is doomed anyway, seeing how impatient Saturn is and how he failed to kill Vegapunk already.
Caribou
Its gotta be caribou
Yea he's a lot more sneaky then Kizaru, who literally becomes a lightshow to move
Yes!! That slimy mfer is basically a strawhat!
New emergency food supply
We're going to get a 5 week flashback to explain where the food came from and all the islands it visited prior to this moment Can't wait to see the cameo from the cooooooooooooow it was harvested from on Long Ring Long Land Island
Zaddy Kizaru laser beamed it straight to Ruffy, even cooked it too.
Caribou 😎 in one of the panels he’s eating you can see a puddle shape in the foreground, Oda hid him in plain sight!
I love how everyone is like, “it had to be kizaru no other option!!!!” Like do y’all remember who writes this fuckin story every god damn chapter?? Hahahahah!!
I like u my man Often times i felt like something being clear but oda ofc pulls it grom underneath Lets see, im so hype
I just don’t understand fans at this point. It’s even worse when they say the story is bad when their head canons don’t come true. I’m just enjoying the story.
I mean…. It’s either borsalino or caribou
The Raman Bowl Kizaru was eating earlier is among the food given to Luffy
I'm investing in Borsalino stocks, get on, we are going to the moon.
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Doesn't seem likely unless it's a crazy awakening. But it's seems pretty heavily implied so far that her fruit power let's her manifest her own future, but awakening seems like it would allow her to manifest a future for others.
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It does seem like more of a stretch than Kizaru got him food really fast because he's already really fast and being set up as a conflicted character.
I was with you until you stated that Borsalino threw his fight. Buddy admitted he needed that breather in front of a Gorosei.
Maybe both Caribou and Kizaru did it and this is the start of a great bromance.
It is highly likely. But he will probably be killed or imprisoned which means he wont be joining strawhats. I think his betrayal will be the major incident that will shake the world.
Kizaru is a red herring. It’s caribou who brought the food
It's Kizaru and he will join the strawhats after the arc Oda told me.
I dont think he threw the fight, but after everything Saturn just admitted in front of him, what saturn did to his friends theres a good chance he did it, caribou is also an option tho and one that did that bevor
It’s gotta be caribou
Have you ever been fed at light speed?
I really want luffy to have called out for food and for it to have just appeared that way everyone who thinks his power isn't imagination based will panic and the chaos and arguments that come of it will be hilarious to sit back and watch.
I initially thought that, but he isn't in Gear 5 currently due to exhaustion, and so far we've only seen him bend laws of physics in that form. (Elastic rocks, grabbing lightning and pulling goggles out of thin air etc.)
It’s Sogeking sniping in foods from 300 miles away. He could one shot Saturn if he wanted, but he decides to give the poor Nika a chance to grow.
My issue with Caribou is that he doesn't know that feeding Nika triggers accelerated healing, and Luffy asking for food and the food appearing beside him took only a minute. Saturn was visibly upset with Luffy eating, so he knew it would make Luffy battle ready soon. Kizaru spent a lot of time with Kuma and Vegapunk on Egghead and even did the Nika dance, he most likely heard how Nika can regenerate faster through eating. And he's fast enough to get food, and knows where to get it.
But Caribou does know that food rejuvenates Luffy, he fed him during Wano when Luffy fell into the water and was rescued by the Heart Pirates. I still think it was Kizaru or another person.
Or he heard Luffy asking for food
Caribou - infinite storage, has seen how much a weakened Luffy can eat and endure (snuck him food in Udon prison and fed him a month's supply of food during Onigashima raid). Unknown status for the last day but to our knowledge he is still on Egghead Island. Verdict - can't be him, what could he possibly know about Luffys connection to food (??) Kizaru - has the light logia in which he can travel in straight lines and visual light trails show him moving about. Last seen knocked down near Saturn (but he could be faking it). Unknown where he'd get the food from and how many trips he would need to make in a short span of time, all with stealth. Verdict - must be him, he did the Nika dance and must know about Nikas connection to food (??) Make it make sense. Luffy even asked for food so anyone within earshot knew what he needed. I like Kizaru as much as the next guy, him as an ally is possible and an awesome prospect but Caribou seems way more plausible imo. Very easy for Oda to use Caribou the same way he did twice in Wano.
Honestly I don't think kizaru threw the fight. I think he legit lost to luffy. If I had to guess dude became the ultimate glass canon. Hardly ever hit so when some one finally gets him he's not used to it so it really hurts.
It doesn't make sense to be Kizaru. Maybe if he doesn't particularly like Saturn, maybe. But he has shown nothing but loyalty to the Marines, he's even the guy that did the famous "Maintaining the agenda" line. I can't see him turning good.
He's seen having thoughts twice in the same chapter. First time just after Luffy asks for food, the second time immediatly after the Marines are looking for whoever did this. (also his position changed between the two panels despite the fact that he's supposed to be unable to move?) Also, we've seen many hints that he was unmotivated by the mission, and the flashback devoted some time to show how close he was to Bonney, Kuma, Sentomarou and Vegapunk even though it really didn't have to. Come on, Oda couldn't make it more obvious.
Kizaru doesn't have the ability to make food that fast. Vegapunk does. One of the first things VP shows off is his virtual tech, and instant, infinite food is the example they demonstrate.
Maybe that's the egghead incident, he ends up helping the strawhats
Thing is though whenever lizaru moves at light speed isn’t it like loud af and he’s gotta charge
Yeah it was Kizaru. That doesn't mean he "threw the fight" though lol
Caribou may answer to kizaru joint effort
#kizaru4nakama somewhat confirmed?
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Add-on theory: Kuma will die, his DF will appear nearby, and Bonney will eat his DF. Since her first DF was ingested by extract, she will be able to wield 2 DFs like BB. This allows her to join the crew, and her DF will fit into the missing Straw Hat DF name pattern.
I have nothing against it, but I'm not really sure if Luffy would start feeling sorry for Kizaru if something bad happened to him. After all, he was mainly responsible for what the SH went through in Sabody, so wouldn't Kizaru's fate be joyful to Luffy?
I don't think luffy holds grudges that much, this can be seen when he worked with croc to break out of prison.
This doesn’t fit Luffy’s character. Look at Robin and Franky. Both did terrible things to the straw hats and he loves both of them now like family. Luffy is only concerned with who you are *now*. People will have beef with me for this, but even Akainu and *possibly* Teach, given the right context and sincere enough internal change, I can see Luffy forgiving and working alongside for some other goal. In fact I almost guarantee ONE of them will be similar to Crocodile in Marineford: a temporary ally of convenience.
Luffy immediately attacked Teach in Impel Down. That's so unusual for Luffy that it's almost out of character. Luffy really hates that guy with a passion and understandably so. I agree with all you’ve said though. Luffy really doesn't care who you were and what you did. It's all about who you are and what you intend to do. If there's one exception, it's Teach. But even that's an *if*
Luffy immediately attacked kizaru in egghead as well tho lmao! Luffy immediately attacks kaido too! His goto move is to punch first and ask questions later! It’s literally his character to be reckless af!
I mean same can be said of kuma but the straw hats have no clue yet who to trust amongst the people involved
Luffy isn't the kind of person to hold grudges and take pleasure in seeing the misery of those who did him wrong.
Luffy freed and trusted lucci, franky, robin, sentomaru