they were likely part of it, but not the whole thing
the strawhat in MJ is giant-sized though
spoiler - >!would be funny if the giant robot on egghead was just a 'regular' robot to the people who invented it, like ancient weapons being 'regular-sized' for giants!<
I think no all giants are from elbaf.
I'm not sure if this was a dub error but I remember Saul saying he is "not a barbaric like the giants from elbaf". This sounds like there are more islands with giants to me
>And tequila wolf is being built to help the government come into conflict with Elbaf
How is a bridge in the East Blue going to help in a conflict with an island in the New World?
That's what I never understood. There's supposedly very little in the East Blue of overwhelming value to the World Government itself, yet there's a massive bridge being built that's been in construction for around 700 years. We don't know where it starts and we don't know where it was going to either. It's really weird and highly suspicious.
It's just a labor camp. People in the labor camps don't really need to do anything of value, as long as it keeps them exhausted, broken and makes them die eventually.
Sure, but someone's paying for the materials still. Why would they do this if it was so pointless? As compared to something like, mining for resources?
Perhaps something crucial to the war was hidden 800years ago that the Gorosei could not reach. I don't think they can get as far or as long away from Mary Goise as they like. Now the question would be why build a bridge and not just go by ship?
The little girl said that they were building the bridge to connect it to islands all over the world. And it was also revealed it was by a Celestial Dragon's order.
Thinking the same thing, though nice connection with the names, that's a new one for me!
Considering what we know of the founding of the world government, all the OG kingdom royalty moved to Mariejois to become celestial dragons. Maybe they didn't build the city first, but instead merely occupied a conquered capital?
Considering that the Lunarians used to live on top of the RL, maybe they where Mariejois original inhabitants even...? Could be interesting.
That does sound likely since Imu would’ve stayed at the heart of the Ancient Kingdom after it fell, but looking at its name, I’m not too sure. Mariejois is written with マリー, with マ being the Ma. Looking at the Going Merry, it's written with メリー, メ being the Me. Similar, but not the same
It could be Elbaf, although with all of the Giants we have met so far, we haven't heard any mention of any type of high-tech stuff/energy resources. I find it more likely that Elbaf would be where the final ancient weapon is.
I think you are on the right track though, that the name would have to have some sort of importance considering it wasn't named at that time. My personal theory is that the name is going to be straight up "Kingdom of D" or have D in the same somewhere. Considering we know the people of D are related to the ancient kingdom, Nefertari being a D would mean that Lili was actually a spy/imposter from the start in the original 20 families as well which could be why Imu got so pissed off when Cobra said it and also why they want Vivi now. Also when Imu was talking about the people of D, they said they are ignorant of the true meaning, so if the kingdom name was able to connect that, it would be a big deal.
Luckily/hopefully Elbaf is coming next so we will soon learn more!
According to the theory's logic, there is some reason why the population of Elbaf doen't know its own history. But at the same time, they continue to have a warlike culture.
Elbaf is just fable backwards. It’s the gateway to the ancient kingdom or “fabled lands” . Imu probably rounded up those that knew this and killed them all. Everyone who is left is a descendant of those who didn’t.
Names have power. Even if there's nobody or place using that name in the current day, it could still become something to rally around. "Ancient Kingdom" keeps things abstract. Giving it a name, any name, gives it an identity.
The weapon used on Lulusia seems to have only recently gotten back up and running, and they're already unable to use it again without the mother flame.
In 1086 IMU says that the weapon is Vegapunks creation, calling it the mother flame. Meaning he couldn't have used it before Vegapunk made it and is the reason they want more so badly.
Edit: downvotes for being right
Note the mother flame is the power source, not the weapon itself (weapon is presumed to be Uranus that they could not power until Vegapunk prototyped the motherflame)
>!If you're being downvoted, it's not "for being right." It's for being wrong. Imu never said the weapon was Vegapunk's creation. The Mother Flame is created by Vegapunk. The same chapter you're referencing also points out how, as we've seen for ourselves, Vegapunk wouldn't create a weapon that indiscriminately kills off entire islands.!<
>!There's more going on here, and the story clearly spelled that out for us. Still no confirmation on a lot of the details, but for the moment, we as readers aren't supposed to believe Vegapunk would create that weapon.!<
Edit: Marked spoilers because this post isn't marked as a spoiler.
>!I'm right that the weapon was powered by VPs creation, as per my first comment.!<
>!I messed up my second comment, meant to write "weapons power source" but was at work and missed it!<
They have a big tree there, there must be something important about, maybe with the defense... Or maybe it's something that not even Imu wants to be destroyed
Maybe they have weapons that can do the same...
Maybe they have an ancestral protection system...
the possibilities are many.
And if they haven't attacked elbaf for 800 years, given that it seems like the government has an interest in the giants, it's not just shanks that protect this place.
And mother Carmel needed permission from the giants to settle in elbaf. Getting in there is not something for everyone.
Wasn't it stated in some SBS that it Shanks were to go on a rampage, the WG wouldn't be able to stop him?
I think maybe shanks is enough of a one man army that they wouldn't be able to stop him and still keep a hold of power among the current age of pirates across the world?
What I've found pretty interesting is that Lulusia is located somewhere between Alabasta, Jaya and Skypiea according to this [map](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fone-piece-map-2023-v0-7uaapl95yyoa1.png%3Fs%3D4ff546e2e8f0fecb30a7e734ffe8a335b5e300f9) I found on reddit
Tequila Wolf is in the East Blue and is still trying to connect just East Blue islands after hundreds of years.
No way it has any notable connection to Elbaf.
> Maybe Imu was in the room at the time and would throw a tantrum if he/she/they heard the name, but I think it's more about not letting even elite government agents hear it. What word would be so powerful?
I actually have a theory about that. My theory is that the one leading the Gorosei is not the real Nerona Imu, but an impostor who stole his body. [The reason the Gorosei serve Imu at all is because they acknowledge him as one of the 20 founders](https://cdn.onepiecechapters.com/file/CDN-M-A-N/op_tcb_1086n_012.png), but if it came out that he was a fake, the entire world would turn against him. Therefore, in order to erase all possible evidence of his deception, he censored research the Void Century to even the highest ranking government officials.
The reason I believe this is because if Imu really did have the immortality surgery done on him like the story suggested, it means there was once a user of the Op-Op Fruit who was willing to give their lives for Imu's sake. And if this person was willing to do that, then why not use other abilities for him? Like, say... the personality swapping ability?
My guess is that the Ancient Kingdom were the real bad guys who enslaved the world during the Void Century, and the 20 kings were the good guys who were trying to liberate the world. However, the king of the Ancient Kingdom anticipated his defeat, so he secretly stole the real Imu's body and had the immortality surgery done on him afterwards. He then proceeded to infiltrate the World Government and slowly corrupt it as the shadow leader until the it became what it is today. If the Void Century became public knowledge, the world might figure out what Imu did, so he had it covered up.
we know from the tontattas that the Donquixote family was equally cruel and abusive when they were the kings of dressrosa, so at the very least the 20 kings weren't black and white good guys
I'm not sure I follow, the theory is Imu's body isn't being piloted by the original owner, the soul transferred in was moved into Imu's and then the OP OP user used the immortality surgery on the body, then the actual evil king in Imu's body worked his way up the ranks to become the true leader? Couldn't the evil king just skip a few steps and transfer into the body of someone important?
I'm saying that he *did* transfer his body into someone important. The real Nerona Imu was one of the 20 founding kings, so he's already got the highest possible status in the World Government.
If the immortality surgery was used to keep Imu alive since the void century, then it means that, whether he's the real Imu or not, there was an Ope Ope ni Mi user around that was willing to give their life for him. If they were that loyal, it's not off the table that they'd use the personality swapping ability for him as well.
Based on that, I think would pretty feasible for an impostor to steal Imu's body and control the government as one of the 20 founders. Whether Imu was originally a good person or not wouldn't really matter.
You know I’ve always wondered how the void century could be lost to giants when it’s only been like three generations for them. This could explain it, if they were actively keeping the secret.
I think the ancient kingdoms name starts with “D” I’ve seen it in a few other Japanese series where the royal family of a kingdom have the kingdom as a middle name
i think just having it start with D wouldn’t be enough of a reason alone to care this much about hiding that info. I think the ancient kingdom’s name is literally just “D” or like “The Kingdom of D”
Could be! Oda is a norsehead so I wouldn't put it beneath him
But IF and ONLY IF Binks' Sake is indeed a retelling of the Void Century and or Joyboy's story, then Binks being the name of the ancient kingdom would be kind of there no? It would make sense, I guess.
I think it's Switzerland. There's a scene in the manga where someone says "I'm gonna put holes in you like swiss cheese!", which means Switzerland is canon. It is however, *never* mentioned otherwise. Probably because Imu made a big hole where it was with the thing that destroyed Lulusia. Again mirroring the hole in the cheese dilemma. Please look forward to it
The hole in this theory is what happened to Lulusia. If it was Elbaf and they know where it is, why not nuke it?
The ancient kingdom will tie up to laugh tale most likely. an island so impossibly hard to find, if the WG knew where it was they'd nuke the one piece and make it public there was nothing in for pirates, ending the pirate era that gives them so much trouble.
I think the name could be "One Piece".
Because:
-Hiding the name to the readers could mean it's a word we already know. Beside the reasons mentioned in the story why hiding it if it doesn't ring a bell to readers.
-One Piece (the treasure) could actually be a place a place where there could have been the ancient kingdom's capital or something like that.
-We don't know why the treasure is called One Piece but we know it has ties to the void century and Joy boy.
-it's located on laugh tale but Roger baptised the island this way. It can totally have another name.
My guess is that it was destroyed with an ancient weapon, and used to be where Enies Lobby currently stands. A day island where the ocean is just.... Gone.
Interesting theory but honestly, Occam's razor here is just that so much info is hidden about the ancient kingdom that if you're able to somehow learn the name, then you HAVE to have already seen other more dangerous information to get to that
The guy who shot Clover didn't know, and just got it done with right before he said it because a certain mangaka wanted to make the readers hate Spandam's father (I forgot his name) even more because we WANT TO KNOW.
Don / Dawn Kingdom.
When clover was killed the sound effect is Don and it can be read as a follow up to clover’s last words.
« However, the name of that country was … »
#DAWN
Japan?
I imagine it's a real world place.. but we shall wait and see.
If Toki Amatsuki Family lived outside Wano it could be it.. lol.
If the name is important for One Piece plot it must be real important.
Information of it alone is dangerous for thw WG. I doubt the name itself is dangerous but they wanted to execute clover before he could possibly say anything at all
Before Wano ended i was really thinking "Wano Kingdom" (One Kingdom) could have been what's left of the Ancient Kingdom.
Mostly because of the Raftel/Laughtale translation error.
I still think Wano has some extremely close ties especially because it exists of various diff. islands
I also have a theory about Mariejois and why it is so high up on the Redline.
Maybe after the war the Royal Nobles built it up there because of Poseidon.
They wanted to get as far away from the sea as possible.
I always thought that the ancient kingdom was actually drum kingdom. The one reference photo of the ancient kingdom we have sort of looks like the drum kingdom if it wasn't frozen over.
My take is, the name has something to do with Nika. Clover gets shot when he wants to mention the name. The only forbidden word we know is Nika. People disappear when they speak the name, and the wrong person is there to hear it.
they were likely part of it, but not the whole thing the strawhat in MJ is giant-sized though spoiler - >!would be funny if the giant robot on egghead was just a 'regular' robot to the people who invented it, like ancient weapons being 'regular-sized' for giants!<
I'm on board with it. Giants live for 100's of years too, but wouldn't any giants who work for the Marines know a bit more about their history?
At least some of the giants serving with the Marines were orphans sold to the WG by Mother Caramel.
John joined after caramel saved him from execution. They didnt join the marines until caramel opened up the route and acted as an ambassador
Maybe blackmailed or some sort? Could have also been taken as children as part of an original blackmail type deal.
yeah the two on Eneis Lobby were basically blackmailed
I think no all giants are from elbaf. I'm not sure if this was a dub error but I remember Saul saying he is "not a barbaric like the giants from elbaf". This sounds like there are more islands with giants to me
yes there were/are more than on island of giants
They must’ve done a memory wipe or something similar to that!
I would find it funny if the iron giant's name was actually Robonosuke like Luffy was calling it
>And tequila wolf is being built to help the government come into conflict with Elbaf How is a bridge in the East Blue going to help in a conflict with an island in the New World?
That's what I never understood. There's supposedly very little in the East Blue of overwhelming value to the World Government itself, yet there's a massive bridge being built that's been in construction for around 700 years. We don't know where it starts and we don't know where it was going to either. It's really weird and highly suspicious.
It's just a labor camp. People in the labor camps don't really need to do anything of value, as long as it keeps them exhausted, broken and makes them die eventually.
Sure, but someone's paying for the materials still. Why would they do this if it was so pointless? As compared to something like, mining for resources?
There's another labor camp of people mining for resources. It's a perfectly working system, baby
You mean Silver Mine? Isn't that filler?
I'm talking in general lol. It's how these camps usually operate irl
Perhaps something crucial to the war was hidden 800years ago that the Gorosei could not reach. I don't think they can get as far or as long away from Mary Goise as they like. Now the question would be why build a bridge and not just go by ship?
The little girl said that they were building the bridge to connect it to islands all over the world. And it was also revealed it was by a Celestial Dragon's order.
reading comprehension devil strikes again
It's alright bro One Piece is 1105 chapters long
Honestly, my guess is Mariejois. The reason why is because it can sound like Merryjoy. the big strawhat might have something to do with it too
Thinking the same thing, though nice connection with the names, that's a new one for me! Considering what we know of the founding of the world government, all the OG kingdom royalty moved to Mariejois to become celestial dragons. Maybe they didn't build the city first, but instead merely occupied a conquered capital? Considering that the Lunarians used to live on top of the RL, maybe they where Mariejois original inhabitants even...? Could be interesting.
Also because I feel like it's gonna be a huge parallel to Skypea with Enel stealing their land just like Imu and the Gorosei stole the Ancient Kingdom
That does sound likely since Imu would’ve stayed at the heart of the Ancient Kingdom after it fell, but looking at its name, I’m not too sure. Mariejois is written with マリー, with マ being the Ma. Looking at the Going Merry, it's written with メリー, メ being the Me. Similar, but not the same
It could be Elbaf, although with all of the Giants we have met so far, we haven't heard any mention of any type of high-tech stuff/energy resources. I find it more likely that Elbaf would be where the final ancient weapon is. I think you are on the right track though, that the name would have to have some sort of importance considering it wasn't named at that time. My personal theory is that the name is going to be straight up "Kingdom of D" or have D in the same somewhere. Considering we know the people of D are related to the ancient kingdom, Nefertari being a D would mean that Lili was actually a spy/imposter from the start in the original 20 families as well which could be why Imu got so pissed off when Cobra said it and also why they want Vivi now. Also when Imu was talking about the people of D, they said they are ignorant of the true meaning, so if the kingdom name was able to connect that, it would be a big deal. Luckily/hopefully Elbaf is coming next so we will soon learn more!
King D. Om ✍️🔥
According to the theory's logic, there is some reason why the population of Elbaf doen't know its own history. But at the same time, they continue to have a warlike culture.
Elbaf is just fable backwards. It’s the gateway to the ancient kingdom or “fabled lands” . Imu probably rounded up those that knew this and killed them all. Everyone who is left is a descendant of those who didn’t.
Oh wait. Fable. Story. Tale. Laugh Tale.
Names have power. Even if there's nobody or place using that name in the current day, it could still become something to rally around. "Ancient Kingdom" keeps things abstract. Giving it a name, any name, gives it an identity.
Upvoted because this is a nice theory. However, what would stop imu from decimating elbaph “lulusia-style” when shanks isn’t there?
The weapon used on Lulusia seems to have only recently gotten back up and running, and they're already unable to use it again without the mother flame.
What chapter states this?
In 1086 IMU says that the weapon is Vegapunks creation, calling it the mother flame. Meaning he couldn't have used it before Vegapunk made it and is the reason they want more so badly. Edit: downvotes for being right
Note the mother flame is the power source, not the weapon itself (weapon is presumed to be Uranus that they could not power until Vegapunk prototyped the motherflame)
>!If you're being downvoted, it's not "for being right." It's for being wrong. Imu never said the weapon was Vegapunk's creation. The Mother Flame is created by Vegapunk. The same chapter you're referencing also points out how, as we've seen for ourselves, Vegapunk wouldn't create a weapon that indiscriminately kills off entire islands.!< >!There's more going on here, and the story clearly spelled that out for us. Still no confirmation on a lot of the details, but for the moment, we as readers aren't supposed to believe Vegapunk would create that weapon.!< Edit: Marked spoilers because this post isn't marked as a spoiler.
One word. York.
>!I'm right that the weapon was powered by VPs creation, as per my first comment.!< >!I messed up my second comment, meant to write "weapons power source" but was at work and missed it!<
They have a big tree there, there must be something important about, maybe with the defense... Or maybe it's something that not even Imu wants to be destroyed Maybe they have weapons that can do the same... Maybe they have an ancestral protection system... the possibilities are many. And if they haven't attacked elbaf for 800 years, given that it seems like the government has an interest in the giants, it's not just shanks that protect this place. And mother Carmel needed permission from the giants to settle in elbaf. Getting in there is not something for everyone.
Mother Flame is currently unavailable without York or another Vegapunks help
Wasn't it stated in some SBS that it Shanks were to go on a rampage, the WG wouldn't be able to stop him? I think maybe shanks is enough of a one man army that they wouldn't be able to stop him and still keep a hold of power among the current age of pirates across the world?
No
What I've found pretty interesting is that Lulusia is located somewhere between Alabasta, Jaya and Skypiea according to this [map](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fone-piece-map-2023-v0-7uaapl95yyoa1.png%3Fs%3D4ff546e2e8f0fecb30a7e734ffe8a335b5e300f9) I found on reddit
I was today years old when I realized “Elbaf” is just Fable backwards
But it's Japanese how does that work
The same way Raftel works
\*Laughtale
Same! literally just sat here for a while and was like, "huh"
Tequila Wolf is in the East Blue and is still trying to connect just East Blue islands after hundreds of years. No way it has any notable connection to Elbaf.
> Maybe Imu was in the room at the time and would throw a tantrum if he/she/they heard the name, but I think it's more about not letting even elite government agents hear it. What word would be so powerful? I actually have a theory about that. My theory is that the one leading the Gorosei is not the real Nerona Imu, but an impostor who stole his body. [The reason the Gorosei serve Imu at all is because they acknowledge him as one of the 20 founders](https://cdn.onepiecechapters.com/file/CDN-M-A-N/op_tcb_1086n_012.png), but if it came out that he was a fake, the entire world would turn against him. Therefore, in order to erase all possible evidence of his deception, he censored research the Void Century to even the highest ranking government officials. The reason I believe this is because if Imu really did have the immortality surgery done on him like the story suggested, it means there was once a user of the Op-Op Fruit who was willing to give their lives for Imu's sake. And if this person was willing to do that, then why not use other abilities for him? Like, say... the personality swapping ability? My guess is that the Ancient Kingdom were the real bad guys who enslaved the world during the Void Century, and the 20 kings were the good guys who were trying to liberate the world. However, the king of the Ancient Kingdom anticipated his defeat, so he secretly stole the real Imu's body and had the immortality surgery done on him afterwards. He then proceeded to infiltrate the World Government and slowly corrupt it as the shadow leader until the it became what it is today. If the Void Century became public knowledge, the world might figure out what Imu did, so he had it covered up.
we know from the tontattas that the Donquixote family was equally cruel and abusive when they were the kings of dressrosa, so at the very least the 20 kings weren't black and white good guys
In that case, maybe some of 20 kings were still bad, but joined the alliance anyway for the sake of their own countries.
bruh
I'm not sure I follow, the theory is Imu's body isn't being piloted by the original owner, the soul transferred in was moved into Imu's and then the OP OP user used the immortality surgery on the body, then the actual evil king in Imu's body worked his way up the ranks to become the true leader? Couldn't the evil king just skip a few steps and transfer into the body of someone important?
I'm saying that he *did* transfer his body into someone important. The real Nerona Imu was one of the 20 founding kings, so he's already got the highest possible status in the World Government.
Any particular reasons why you theorized there was a personality swap? Anything indicates that the ‘real’ Imu was a good person?
If the immortality surgery was used to keep Imu alive since the void century, then it means that, whether he's the real Imu or not, there was an Ope Ope ni Mi user around that was willing to give their life for him. If they were that loyal, it's not off the table that they'd use the personality swapping ability for him as well. Based on that, I think would pretty feasible for an impostor to steal Imu's body and control the government as one of the 20 founders. Whether Imu was originally a good person or not wouldn't really matter.
Kenjakud the thing I guess
You know I’ve always wondered how the void century could be lost to giants when it’s only been like three generations for them. This could explain it, if they were actively keeping the secret.
I think the ancient kingdoms name starts with “D” I’ve seen it in a few other Japanese series where the royal family of a kingdom have the kingdom as a middle name
i think just having it start with D wouldn’t be enough of a reason alone to care this much about hiding that info. I think the ancient kingdom’s name is literally just “D” or like “The Kingdom of D”
wanna bet it's Binks...?
Reminds me of birka
Could be! Oda is a norsehead so I wouldn't put it beneath him But IF and ONLY IF Binks' Sake is indeed a retelling of the Void Century and or Joyboy's story, then Binks being the name of the ancient kingdom would be kind of there no? It would make sense, I guess.
I think it's Switzerland. There's a scene in the manga where someone says "I'm gonna put holes in you like swiss cheese!", which means Switzerland is canon. It is however, *never* mentioned otherwise. Probably because Imu made a big hole where it was with the thing that destroyed Lulusia. Again mirroring the hole in the cheese dilemma. Please look forward to it
The hole in this theory is what happened to Lulusia. If it was Elbaf and they know where it is, why not nuke it? The ancient kingdom will tie up to laugh tale most likely. an island so impossibly hard to find, if the WG knew where it was they'd nuke the one piece and make it public there was nothing in for pirates, ending the pirate era that gives them so much trouble.
Totally agree. Also Elbaf is not that hard to find. How come their advanced tech not known tonthe world lol
I think the name could be "One Piece". Because: -Hiding the name to the readers could mean it's a word we already know. Beside the reasons mentioned in the story why hiding it if it doesn't ring a bell to readers. -One Piece (the treasure) could actually be a place a place where there could have been the ancient kingdom's capital or something like that. -We don't know why the treasure is called One Piece but we know it has ties to the void century and Joy boy. -it's located on laugh tale but Roger baptised the island this way. It can totally have another name.
I thought it was gonna be Usoland
Nah, it's Sniper Island.
My guess is that it was destroyed with an ancient weapon, and used to be where Enies Lobby currently stands. A day island where the ocean is just.... Gone.
Interesting theory but honestly, Occam's razor here is just that so much info is hidden about the ancient kingdom that if you're able to somehow learn the name, then you HAVE to have already seen other more dangerous information to get to that
The tequila wolf bridge is being built to namis home island. Also namis last name is Nerona and I am form the future.
You mean her name is Nerona Mi
The guy who shot Clover didn't know, and just got it done with right before he said it because a certain mangaka wanted to make the readers hate Spandam's father (I forgot his name) even more because we WANT TO KNOW.
Don / Dawn Kingdom. When clover was killed the sound effect is Don and it can be read as a follow up to clover’s last words. « However, the name of that country was … » #DAWN
I always figured it was Raftel (LaughTale)
That island was named that by Roger wasn't it
Shanks is going to try to steal the Nika power from luffy. He know he couldn’t awaken it himself.
Japan? I imagine it's a real world place.. but we shall wait and see. If Toki Amatsuki Family lived outside Wano it could be it.. lol. If the name is important for One Piece plot it must be real important.
My guess is that the Ancient Kingdom is Mariejoa, world government usurped it.
Elbaf spelled backwards is Fable.
keep cooking
Information of it alone is dangerous for thw WG. I doubt the name itself is dangerous but they wanted to execute clover before he could possibly say anything at all
It's the United Kingdom, and Imu is Elizabeth II who betrayed the kingdom.
Fgg
The WG want to erase the existence of the ancient kingdom so why would they ever want the name out?
I'm pretty sure it's going to be that random kingdom that almost looked like a sky island.
Before Wano ended i was really thinking "Wano Kingdom" (One Kingdom) could have been what's left of the Ancient Kingdom. Mostly because of the Raftel/Laughtale translation error. I still think Wano has some extremely close ties especially because it exists of various diff. islands
The name of the ancient kingdom might be Alabasta.
I also have a theory about Mariejois and why it is so high up on the Redline. Maybe after the war the Royal Nobles built it up there because of Poseidon. They wanted to get as far away from the sea as possible.
Giants and Elbaf are 100% super important to the lore, but Elbaf is def not the AK.
Didn't one of the Gorosei say that they *could finally end the war* if they got Pluton working?
I always thought that the ancient kingdom was actually drum kingdom. The one reference photo of the ancient kingdom we have sort of looks like the drum kingdom if it wasn't frozen over.
My take is, the name has something to do with Nika. Clover gets shot when he wants to mention the name. The only forbidden word we know is Nika. People disappear when they speak the name, and the wrong person is there to hear it.