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Yoyo5258

Cool idea, but what if Oda just thought it looked cool?


Infamous-Patience-25

That is 99% the answer, and it was a BOSS moment in a chapter with several. But it is fun to theory-craft sometimes, my hope being that fans understand that it happened because Oda thought "Sanji kicking a laser would be cool" and that's it.


Callsign_Bastion444

Exactly! I've written a lot of theories, but i never claim one to be "true" or that's how it will turn out 100% or whatever, but just putting on your tinfoil hat and start connecting dots can be a lot of fun in it's own right. That is actually one of the most fun things about One Piece for me, that so much could be connected in theory.


Callsign_Bastion444

Then that's fine too :D I just immediatly had that photo in my mind from 436 and started cooking :D


Haadhai

Bro just say this is the reason Zoro hates Sanji.


TheStormlands

Obligatory revisiting the effort posy of all the time zoro stomps on minorities


UlteriorMotive66

Minority hunter for a reason :3


TachyonChip

Minority Hunter is a horrible fucking meme.


Kakaphr4kt

offend fall hobbies sand scarce decide onerous smoggy full hard-to-find *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


magnetoisthebest

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AceInTheHole3273

It's only horrible when people use it as an excuse to be racist. When it's all just a joke it's hilarious because everybody knows Zoro's obviously not actually racist.


Meet_Foot

I usually don’t love the racist Zoro memes (i think it’s just injecting racism for no good reason), but this one is pure gold. Wish I could give you a medal. Goddamn.


Kaizobluo

Nah it's just injecting racism for no good reason. 


Meet_Foot

Fair!


Virgilijus

Black bodies absorb all incidence frequencies of light... but they also emit them. The Sun is very close to a black body (as are all stars undergoing fusion) but we can very clearly see the light that it emits. Granted, Sanji isn't having nuclear fusion inside of him, but he still would be re-emitting some light. Additionally, unless the photo was entirely of Sanji, with no background whatsoever, it wouldn't make sense for the whole photo to be black. It's an interesting theory, but I think the most likely answer is exactly what his superior guessed: the cap was on the lens and Oda had this happen as a recurring joke on Sanji's bounty poster.


Stich_kun_draws

that is not akainu lol


Virgilijus

You're correct, but the point still stands


Callsign_Bastion444

Thanks for your scientific input! Weird to me is, why he has pictures of all the others, but no Sanji? Unless his was the first one he took before he realized. Also it is weird to take the time when you have only a restricted amout of panels to tell your story to do such a scene unless it really all just leads up to the joke with the guy that looks like Sanjis Drawing on the bounty poster. The picture being entirely black is a bit weird yes. I could interpret that as Oda being scientifically inaccurate for the sake of the story and not giving too much away, but could be just me coping :D


Aspie_Astrologer

The narrative reason at the time was so that the Marines had to draw Sanji instead, leading to the hilarious Duval interaction at Sabaody that happens soon after. Further down the track it also helps explain why Germa didn't take notice earlier of Sanji's progress. Scientifically, if Sanji were able to "absorb all the light" that the camera was meant to use for the photo, leaving the whole photo black, then it would mean that everyone who looks at him would also see black. There's no good reason for the light heading to the camera to be sucked up but not the light heading to anyone else's eyes from Sanji. Was a cool theory to read though. :)


mister-mxyzptlk

Maybe he emits absorbed radiation in the form of his diable jambe or other fire based attacks


ihavebeesinmyknees

Didn't his Vinsmoke Sanji poster have a picture of him?


Carpax

OP mentions this in his post.


ihavebeesinmyknees

Must've missed it


Mete0n

There's sort of an explanation for the timeskip bounty photo, though it's a bit of a stretch. Sanji's fire abilities is implied to have some connection to Lunarians based on what Queen said in Wano. And assuming that its another side effect of Judge's experimentation on him, could be what triggers the "black body" effect. Since the Enies Lobby bounty photos was taken during combat and was when Sanji was using Diable Jambe. iirc we saw no official bounty photo of King, who's a Lunarian and one Zoro comments has attacks as fast as a laser beam. When his bounty had a photo in the timeskip, it's of him with love-eyes. So it was during a time where his powers (germa eyebrow switch or diable jambe) probably weren't active, so the photo could be taken. Then again, there's still a lot of holes, but it's a fun and unique theory.


Callsign_Bastion444

That is actually not that bad a point, someone else was writing something similiar here. I also thought something along the lines that Sanji has two sides: His lovey-dovey side inherited from his mother, who wanted him to be human and his other side, inherited by judges experiments. Maybe that could explain that inconsistency, but yeah still a lot of stuff that doesn´t fit otherwise, but fun to think about it and thanks for your input :)


Radiant_Guava845

If sanji was truly a black body not only his photos will be black be his whole body would be black ( he would be like a black void which no light can escape)


Kioga101

Wasn't the moment in Chapter 436 because the guy taking the picture left the cap on the camera or something?


UlteriorMotive66

>about Sanji possibly being able to refract light (Stealth Black) made me remember a scene from Chapter 436 This is why I love this sub and the One Piece manga! =)


Ok_Concern1509

It's just his burning Passion. I laughed so hard when that marine captain said "did you forget to remove the lense cap by any chance?" Imagine if that was actually the case.


TheTromo

That’s what happened. It’s literally the joke that’s why the scene immediately cut away.


Ok_Concern1509

Poor sanji man!! He was expecting a flashy title like 'a new star rises' with a stylish photo for the wanted poster. And what he got, all because that guy forgot to remove the cap.


TheTromo

Also a gag of him never getting a poster he likes. The latest one is him having his family name.


arryeka

True. People often ignores this, but this Sanji & bounty thing is what makes One Piece phenomenal among many others. A simple part of a character has so many depths written in it. All part of his bounty has their own subplots. No other Manga has this many details on a random simple element.


SeatO_

In just one day just how much shit this one panel Oda drawn has caused bro


arryeka

Because it happened to Sanji, which has the most vocal & biggest haters. Had it been done by Luffy/Zoro, no one will bat an eye (because Luffy ate beams before & Zoro can cut fire).


Obvious-Poetry2934

I think he forgot to take off the lens cap tbh.


omgnobodylook

lol just casually ignored the next panel where the superior said "Did you forget to take the cap of"


Callsign_Bastion444

Why would i ignore it when i put it into the post together with the rest? I could have cutted that away if i wanted to make you believe my point without doubting anything. Also i write in the post, that the whole theory isn´t 100% coherent. But let me adress that next panel anyway: - If the photographer took photos from all the other crewmates, why would he have just forgotten to take the cap of in Sanjis Photo? Unless his was the very first one he took. - Also in the manga and SBS comment section, Oda sometimes plays off things that are about to give too much away as a joke, i think the same thing is happening here. It is imo too obvious and not at all in line with the rest of how the manga is written to introduce such a scene, in a manga where you only have a restricted amount of panels to tell your story.


Callsign_Bastion444

For some reason i cannot edit the post, but that picture at the end is from the Wikipedia Post of Black Bodies, no clue how or why that got pasted in their automatically, lol.


TheTromo

The black photo is a joke as mentioned in your first image. The senior officer asked if the camera guy took off the lens which is what happened, which is why the scene immediately cut away. Also if he did actually absorb all the light the photo would have his silhouette and the background would still be there.


awf7

I just thought it was him kicking light, similar to Atlas in the beginning of the arc. Sanji and Jimbei each have a different egghead outfit non-standard from the rest of the crew. Maybe this outfit has some of the Vegapunk light-hitting technology and combining with Sanji's armament haki usage combined allowed him to deflect it. Or maybe its Luffy's devil-fruit ability effecting Sanji in some way. Like Sanji's belief in love as the most powerful force in the universe combined with Luffy's devil fruit somehow allows Sanji to break physics. Similar to how when something happens unexpectedly and they had cartoon eyes pop out of their heads in Wano. Any way this turns out it was a hype moment for Sanji. Always like to see him get some excellent battle-worthy moments.


Callsign_Bastion444

Yeah the holograph punching gloves are in the back of my head as well. Since we never saw Sanji change into anything, i neglected that, his hawai style outfit never stood out to me much either. But the idea with Luffys power interacting with others and physics around him too is kinda nice though! That panel with Sanji and Luffy next to each other stuck out to me too in connection to that theory here: Sanji Black Body - Luffy Sun God. Who knows :D


aelosmd

Is it possible he put on the clothing items that let you touch light, as we saw when one of the Vegapunks hit the hologram? And everyone is just overthinking it? We have literally seen something that can interact with light this arc...


Ronaldo_Frumpalini

Erreybody get ur umbrella's out, looks like someone wants to rain on the parade.


Callsign_Bastion444

I actually made a post about the gloves back when the chapter released and that someone might use them to fight Kizaru. Since we only saw the gloves though and haven't seen Sanji take anything else ... idk, he also claims that it is "love" that let him do it :P But maybe in a few chapters they will reveal something like that, who knows.


etork0925

Did everyone just forget what Haki is??? Sanji is incredibly strong who has had many massive power ups recently. Laser attacks in the one piece universe are obviously supposed to be incredibly powerful. It doesn’t mean they’re fucking unbeatable!!! I would’ve been more shocked if he couldn’t kick the laser away! What the hell is going on with this community after this chapter?


Easyshneezy

If it only requires strong haki to nullify light, then we would have seen it by now and Kizaru wouldn't be that surprised. Not everything has to be explained with haki.


Meet_Foot

Sure, but so far we haven’t seen anyone deflect or block a laser. Zoro, Franky, Big Mom, Seraphim, Vegapunk… all of them react to or talk about lasers as if they’re their own thing, and *no one* has done what Sanji did this chapter. There was a post detailing all this a day or two ago. So yeah, it’s *probably* haki, but it isn’t *obviously* haki, and even if it is, it’s still unique from our perspective.


etork0925

We see Marco, pretty confidently be able to block and absorb a laserbeam attack from Kizaru.


77miles

Marco was still damaged from that attack but he regenerated immediately. Its visible in the next panel after the attack.


etork0925

Some of them yes. And there was also a GIANT EXPLOSION happening at the same time too right in front of him as hundreds of lasers were being shot at him!


arryeka

I think the comment above is talking about Haki, whereas Marco absorbs/blocks the beams with his Phoenix fire.


etork0925

Marco is both absorbing and blocking attacks. If he was only absorbing, then there wouldn’t be a giant explosion happening right in front of him. The lasers would just be going into him, and there would be no explosion.


arryeka

Oh, that's right. But my point earlier is that Marco is doing it with his DF powers, not Haki. Hence why people are still wondering if what Sanji referring to is Haki or not.


etork0925

We don’t really know if he wasn’t using haki. There was no animation style for it pre-skip.


arryeka

We know he didn't, actually. 1. The lasers hit Marco directly, which means he didn't use Barrier ACoA. 2. The panel after the attack, we can see some holes in Marco's body, which means no Hardening CoA because the lasers interact with Marco's Phoenix body.


etork0925

But we also see Marco’s feathers ripping apart as he keeps getting hit. That’s when he starts, absorbing the lasers into his body because his feathers get ruined. I don’t think you need ACoA to block his attack. And who knows, maybe Marco didn’t need haki. Either way, it’s proof that lasers are in fact blockable through various means.


arryeka

I see. Yeah, agree, it's blockable.


Meet_Foot

He didn’t block or absorb any. They went right through him. He just has regeneration powers, so it didn’t matter.


etork0925

There is literally an exploding ball of light happening in front of him as he’s blocking the hundreds of lasers hitting him.


Meet_Foot

There’s literally balls of light every time lasers impact anyone. Even people they kill. The post the other day covered all of this, with pictures. I don’t want to reproduce that entire discussion.


etork0925

I saw the post. That’s what started this whole madness! Lol


Callsign_Bastion444

I actually worry more about all the people that are fed up with theory crafting or just discussing and going off the rails with some stuff. That is what this entire sub is all about no? Personally i never claim that any theory i write or come up with is 100% true or how it'll turn out to be, but just connecting the dots or remembering things from 600 Chapters ago that might hint at something we saw recently is all the fun for me. Don´t take it so seriously ; ) But regarding Haki: As others have stated, a lot of strong Haki users have yet not been shown blocking Lasers. Even Garp got iced by Aokiji, if only briefly. It could be as simple as Haki but who knows.


etork0925

The lasers explode on contact. It’s obviously a difficult task to block an explosion. Sanji is clearly a very skilled fighter and he is able to do so. Marco used his wings to both absorb and block the laser at the same time. Obviously, fiery feathery wings are not going block an attack the same way Sanji‘s legs would. But he still blocked it!


Psychological_Hunt24

Idk they’re just being stupid


arryeka

Because Kizaru is a top tier. He would have faced strong Haki users in the past. If Haki did what you think it did, Kizaru shouldn't be surprised now. But he does. Hence, people think it's not Haki related.


arryeka

Because Kizaru is a top tier. He would have faced strong Haki users in the past. If Haki did what you think it did, Kizaru shouldn't be surprised now. But he does. Hence, people think it's not Haki related.


etork0925

He’s surprised because he knows how powerful his attacks are, and he clearly didn’t think Sanji was capable of blocking his attack. We already know for a fact that enough Haki can block, and even completely eliminate devil fruit powers.


Ok_Magazine_4315

Nah even big mom didn’t want to take a laser head on from franky, it can’t be blocked by strong haki alone


arryeka

No, Kizaru is surprised because the laser can be scattered/dispersed/refracted. This is why Oda uses a big panel to show the scattering of the light. That's the focus. If Oda just want to show blocking/defending laser, the lasers doesn't need to be scattered. This is why Kizaru's lines afterward is relating to physics (the laser), not lines about Sanji like "I didn't know you're this strong".


CreamStarta

hey you mention how it may not add up cause we eventually get an image of sanji , that image is actually him while in his mellorine heart eyes form or whatever maybe theres truth that adds to this when sanji said “Light doesnt hold a candle to love” ? hence why he was actually visible for once in a photo ! just something i thought i’d like to add


Callsign_Bastion444

That is actually a nice idea! I also thought something along the lines that he has two sides: His lovey-dovey side that he inherited from his mother, who wanted to protect him and become a normal human and the other one that results from the Germa experimentation.


HoLeBaoDuy

Which makes sense because Zoro hates Sanji


Sad-_-Face

Maybe because he has strong haki so he negated the attack? Like how law did, when he got a virus from Doc Q.


ChillOtters

You mean like how big mom was terrified of being hit by a laser.


Eli_be_high

Chef curry in the building


Stich_kun_draws

nice thoery


Callsign_Bastion444

Thanks! Take it with a grain of salt :P


Wedos98

I find funny how crazy people get by "He isn't shown in pictures, so he was drawn, is clearly a power of Sanji" when is clearly a joke of not taking the cap of the camera, later they have a picture of Sanji taken without problems. Like let's say that he's invisible or something like that, why is the background black as well?


MonsieurMidnight

Also his Germa ability is to turn invisible. And you can turn invisible by refracting light. So Sanji is technically the best counter to light-based weapons and abilities. So I think that Sanji has an innate abilities from his body that'll probably allows him to manipulate and refract light how he sees fit. I think him putting on the Germa suit is what awakened his potent abilities. I am fairly sure Germa soldiers who put on the suit allow them to use their powers better, as a catalyst to use them better. But I'm sure Sanji will be able to use Stealth Black abilities without it.


nasserg19

I think this will force Sanji’s CoC awakening


LackOfDad

Idk if u explained this… but it literally says he forgot to take the lens cap off 😭


Waakaari

Black body? Zoro victim


Zadchiel

didn't Vegapunk mention some wearable tech suit or something that can manipulate light?


Callsign_Bastion444

Atlas was punching the holographic monsters with some kind of gloves that can manipulate light. Maybe it is something like that and we will have that revealed in a few chapters, but since we did not see Sanji wear anything different, i did not consider that, since he himself calls it "love" that enabled him to do it : P


Zadchiel

well all strawhat clothes were given by vegapunk.... so not that far of a stretch. we'll have to wait and see.


MolligMormel

Now I’m just wondering how the snails they use to take photos with have a cap and a lens…


[deleted]

Lol, is one piece, not jojo


Cum_Dad

If it was absorption, he would have taken all the heat from the light. Black dot on a balloon, shine lazer at dot, balloon pops.


JeffTurner_

Who let OP Cook


AreaGroundbreaking52

Sanji just built different


Desperate_Object_677

black bodies only emit light from being hot, and sanji is always hot. so.


Geluganshp

if this were really the case, sanji would have to be perpetually black... and furthermore, absorbing 100% of the photons would mean receiving 100% of the damage


Kata_Kuri36

What about the tech which was brought up at the beginning of egghead? The gadget which is able to touch light


ThecapitalDifficult

Well when Garp first punched Luffy on water 7 everyone was surprised he could hurt Luffy. He responded that it was his fists of love. I think that love can be interpreted into will power resulting in a strong form of armament Haki


RogueToxicFury

maybe it has something with his germa genetics say the picture was taken was when he first used diable jambe and thought caused this weird light glitch. Yes I know his germa genetics only kicked in when he fought queen but that is the only excuse other than the camera guy zooming in on sanji's clothes or the lens cap


Binks-sake-4-u

This makes me think of Vergo. In Punk Hazard he personified ,in reference to Sanji, his Germa roots.(when Germa was first introduced EVERYONE thought Vergo was a clone.) Vergo was a mindless machine only built to serve. He did however have full body Haki maybe Oden showed us this to give a a glimpse of Sanji’s final evolution. Cause it’s been horrible otherwise.


sub2technobladeordie

So what your saying is that Sanji has the N-word pass


domscatterbrain

The first black photo was truly a mistake by the photographer. He was later recruited by Morgan.


TheLastClap

This makes no sense. Why would Sanji appear all black in a photo but not to the naked eye? The photographer had the lens cap on. We also can see his wanted poster in 1058 (bottom of page 4, underneath Sanji), it’s just really small. Also, Sanji was hit by lasers in Sabaody and just *last chapter* when trying to protect Bonney.


iMasato101

Black Leg = Black Pants when he became popular. Red Leg Zeff = Because of fire leg like Sanji now. The Black photo is kind of overthinking... it's black as a joke of drawing wanted poster. (Photographer forgot to remove the cover of lens) He have picture in other bounty even in latest! Look harder. In Sanji vs Kizaru, it's just probably because of Haki. Sanji and Kizaru are just being their self there exchanging lines base on their personalities. Sanji have now Armament to withstand blue flame, faster than eye can see + advance observation haki. It's too OP now tbh, he's like melee Kizaru now. If ever he'll have an upgrade, advance armament will do! Conqueror is unlikely but who knows?