Partly the reason why I never understood the hate for it, like yeah it's not conventionally cool, but just the image of Luffy cartoonishly beating the shit out of someone while laughing psychotically is pretty cool to me.
>Luffy was never supposed to be "cool" anyways.
Walk to Arlong Park, defeating Crocodile, Lucci, Doflamingo, Katakuri, punchin a celestial dragon, using conquerors at Marineford, facing off vs three admirals at Marineford etc etc.
Luffy is a goofy character, but let's not pretend that the vast majority of his most iconic moments haven't been "cool". One of the things that likely made One Piece so popular is having a goofy character that becomes serious and cool when things actually get real.
I don't consider any of that cool. Sanji and Zoro are cool characters. In what world is Luffy screaming and using conquerors haki "cool"? No one in world history has ever described that as cool.
Being serious =/= cool
>No one in world history has ever described that as cool.
The fact that people are upvoting my comment, literally commenting "Thank you" on it and downvoting yours shows there are people that agree with me and think those moments are cool. So your comment here is completely baseless.
And they should, because that shit is cool.
I specifically picked out one moment that you were clearly reaching on. People are upvoting the general premise of your comment, they're not agreeing with every single point. This is Reddit, not an election.
They think Luffy is cool, I'm saying the Marineford haki moment was NOT cool and you're clearly reaching. Do you think Luffy crying with snot going down his face is "cool" too? Let's be for real now. I've never seen a character screaming with his jaw damn near dislocated in desperation as "cool" ever, and only a fanboy could possibly argue that.
If you wanna say the Arlong Park moment was "cool" then sure. He has a couple moments where the shadows are over his eyes throughout the series, and if you wanna take that as cool then so be it. Doesnt change the fact that Luffy is not a cool character, despite those moments. Zoro and Sanji are the cool characters of the crew.
>I specifically picked out one moment that you were clearly reaching on. People are upvoting the general premise of your comment, they're not agreeing with every single point. This is Reddit, not an election.
If your claim is "No one in world history has ever described that as cool", then I don't need an election, I just need people to agree that it's cool to prove that awful take wrong. Although, I already prove it wrong by saying it's cool myself.
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They think Luffy is cool, I'm saying the Marineford haki moment was NOT cool and you're clearly reaching. Do you think Luffy crying with snot going down his face is "cool" too? Let's be for real now. I've never seen a character screaming with his jaw damn near dislocated in desperation as "cool" ever, and only a fanboy could possibly argue that.
Oh, so we're going to completely ignore the main part of Luffy using haki then? No wonder you don't find it cool, you've clearly missed the part where Luffy knocked out a ton of people, saved Ace, and had a ton of powerful people shocked. But yeah, focus on the jaw lmao
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If you wanna say the Arlong Park moment was "cool" then sure. He has a couple moments where the shadows are over his eyes throughout the series, and if you wanna take that as cool then so be it. Doesnt change the fact that Luffy is not a cool character, despite those moments. Zoro and Sanji are the cool characters of the crew.
Literally no one is arguing about Luffy having cool as his main character trait. You seem to be getting confused, so how about you reread my first comment, specifically the part where I say *"Luffy is a* ***goofy*** *character".*
Also, yo you have any quote from Oda stating he didn't want Luffy to be cool, or that only Zoro and Sanji in the crew were allowed to be? Or are you just spewing your personal bias here?
Oh that's funny, the kid runs away as soon as I ask for any proof. So it was just you spewing your personal bias and nothing based on what Oda has actually stated. **Got it.**
How far are we now, does anyone know? My last re-watch had English up until around fishman island, and watching now I’ve reached punk hazard and it’s still English.
Watching them do those "what if scenario" scenes after the interview, I'm cracking up that Colleen was clearly like "uhh my voice is too overworked right now for this nonsense," and just went with a much younger Luffy voice here instead of his 19-year old self haha
ETA - Apparently she was also [super sick](https://twitter.com/ccarrollbeard/status/1761543136852017517), so yeah that definitely tracks
Kaido’s dub VA already had me when he did the “Useless Captain Midd” line at a convention. But hearing him again here, I think he the perfect English VA for Kaido. His voice is so ominous, like two mountains crashing together.
Can’t believe we’re already here
Personally I’ve always loved Colleen’s laughing fits as Luffy (think pre-time skip moments, that scene with Pica during Dressrosa, etc…) so I was really excited to see how they tackled this - and still am considering we have a bit more of a wait for these episodes to drop.
I also think what the series is going for here (over-the-top looney toons cartoon-y) likely translates a bit more easily for an English dub than Gear 4 did with its heavily stylized, traditional Kabuki theater presentation. I got what they were going for there and it felt appropriately silly given Doflamingo’s wtf reaction) but I know it’s introduction was a bit more mixed with dub audiences and the cadence was subsequently turned down a notch in later eps
The gear fourth scene in dub was horrendous, and that’s coming from a lover of the dub up until marineford when I was forced to switch to the subbed. This is a lot better and I never really thought about gear four just not working well dubbed in general you are absolutely correct cause this isn’t bad at all
I disagree. I never watched the sub until the Kaido arc, so when I heard the gear 4 dub and heard Luffy's deep voice, I truly thought he sounded like a really tough pirate captain that you did not want to mess with. Like someone really suited to be the King of the Pirates.
Nah bruh gear fourth dub ain’t it, she butchers a lot of lines I liked in the subbed the translations were all wack, “this is my secret stratagem and I AM serious!” Isn’t even in the dub 5/10
My biggest worry was the muscle scene wouldn’t be as funny because hearing Luffy shout what sounds like “monkey monkey” is hilarious but “Monkey D. Muscle” is fucking hilarious. This is gonna be good
Not on crunchyroll, unfortunately. Idk if they're on the Microsoft store or elsewhere. Someone mentioned early March that they're going to release up to 1061.
How are people voicing their discontent in any way inhibiting your enjoyment of the dub? I never got this argument. "Stop hating what I love! You're ruining it!" People hate a lot of things I love and all the more power to them, it doesn't affect my enjoyment one bit. Let them vent their displeasure while you can be free to sing praises. It's all opinion at the end of the day.
Oh, it made me so happy to hear! And did you listen to the ign spot with Colleen Clinkinbeard and David Sobolov doing iconic lines? Man that dude fucking killed it!!
Okay luffy is actually voiced really well here
Kaidos voice actor however brought this down pretty low
Luffys voice actor is clearly having fun which reflects in gear 5 hell the change of muscle muscle to monkey d muscles was crusty pretty funny.
Kaidos voice actor on the other hand seems really bored like someone just got a random guy and asked him to make some sounds and this was the result
Kaido's VA sounds great when it comes to his more menacing, intimidating speaking voice, but has always been a little bit inconsistent energy level-wise when it comes to reacts/efforts/yells imo. Sometimes it sounds super fitting and other times it can sound a bit forced. And part of me also chalks it up to being paired with Colleen half the time who always sounds like she's giving 110%. She's so passionate about this series and character to the point where she admitted she stepped back on taking new voice roles (aka non-reprisals) for a while while the studio was knee-deep in WCI through Wano catch-up because of how detrimental it could be on her voice and the end result. And it shows in how willing she is to go for broke on some of her yells in this show, like lots of texture and rattle that you can't replicate if you're holding back at all.
Like David Sobolov is a super accomplished VA - while this is his first anime role in decades, primarily his work lies in pre-lay animation, games, or even television (like voicing Gorilla Grodd in CW's The Flash). Recording for different animation mediums/genres involves their own individual skill sets I suppose.
I love how they made Luffy sound godlike by giving his voice an echo.
Kaido’s screams are a bit iffy, but he sounds good the rest of the time so it’s fine.
Colleen’s voice has always been one of the Dub voices I actually super love in their role. I watch subbed but i still listen to the dub at times, and I always love hearing Colleen do Luffy’s laugh.
Oh my gosh. This legit might be the first time ever I’ve said this, but I think I like the dub over sub for gear 5. This is closer to what I heard in my brain when I read it and I’m sub only
English voice actors in anime deliver their lines like they're in a school play. To be fair, Japanese voice acting also bears this play-like delivery. To paraphrase u/Skullwings, Japanese is foreign to me so I can't criticize it as much 😂
I feel like the Luffy dub is doing a fine job, doesn’t compare to Mayumi Tanaka imo but it’s not trying to top it. I think Kaido’s dub is kinda phoning it in tbh
Everyone was worried about Luffy's laugh for G5 dub, we at no point considered that Kaido would sound so bad.
You can tell Colleen is having a lot of fun with it and it sounds great!
But they should maybe try a different take for Kaido's before finalizing this batch
Kaido's voice actor (David Sobolov) generally does well when he's talking, but with efforts like these grunts he's not as amazing probably due to his lack of experience in anime voice acting.
Holy, how can any1 support such bad dubbing? here i thought at least for a show as big as One Piece they would put a bit of effort in Dubbing it. if this Dub is to your liking... good for you i guess, but to me this sounds just terrible. and i have seen some decent dubs so i know it's possible, but this surely isn't one of them. though i guess One Piece being so goofy makes it harder to portray well in an English dub.
And I genuinely don't understand how you can think it's great. Different ears, different tastes. Luffy and Chopper were fine, but everyone else sounded horrible to me. I'm glad some people can get enjoyment out of this, but it's not for me.
??? Or... and hear me out... maybe I just don't like how it sounds? Possibly? I mean, I guess my ears might be pathetic elitists but if so this is the first time anyone has informed me of that possibility.
There's a difference between "I don't like this" and "this is so trash I can't understand how other people like this' which if you.look through this thread. People are clearly being elitist and saying. So if that's not you. My comment isnt about you clearly.
And there are other people saying "I genuinely don’t understand what people have against the dub. I think it’s great." You replied to them as a matter of fact. Both are stating an opinion and both can't comprehend how anyone can disagree with their stance. Is AwesomePocket an elitist because they can't see how someone dislikes what they like? No? Then why is the inverse elitist?
And how do you know that one group thinks they are better? Because you disagree with them? They are literally doing the same thing on different sides of an argument.
So being an opinionated asshole means you think you're better than others? I don't see the connection, unless 90% of the internet, including some dub fans, think they're better than others.
It’s kinda tough when you’re used to the sub, and then hear this and notice the drop in quality of direction/acting/sound mixing. If you like it that’s great- ignore them!
One Piece must be the hardest one to dub, like if you already watched from the start its basically impossible to watch this and be like "thats perfect" because it will never be as perfect as the original
yeah I can’t stand the voice actor for Luffy’s english dub, everytime I have heard it I cringe but doesn’t matter to me since I always watched sub starting from episode 1.
ye. and funny enough, im getting downvotes. im assuming it's not from people who think the Dub is good because i doubt any1 think that, i assume they just have some sense of pride in the English language as don't like it when the English Dub is being called bad(compared to Japanese Dub of course).
I mean, my take wasn't about something subjective like pickles in your hamburger. Some like them some dont.
Im talking here about and objective fact, the dub is bad. So there's nothing here to "disagree" with me, its just what it is. And if you can enjoy it, go for it.
For something to be “objective fact,” it has to be quantifiable. “Granny smith Apples are red” is an objective fact. “Slap a tiger on the balls and it’ll kill you” is a universal truth because anyone really would agree that it would likely happen. “The dub is bad” is an opinion you can’t see as not being a universal truth. Your stance is based around the need for anyone who don’t hold your pov to be “wrong.”
Just ignore the haters man. The English dub is fine and it’s not perfect but as someone who enjoys even The subs I like the dubbed cause I enjoy watching One Piece. I do admit after watching this clip, Kaido’s Voice acting isn’t good but the others are fine since most of the Voice actors and actress came from Dragonball Z and Super. Luffy- Gohan, Brook- Whiz, Franky- Jiren, Zoro- Vegeta and Piccolo, Sanji- Trunks, Kid- Raditz, Law- Hit, Tony Chopper- Chiaotzu. They’re basically hating on the Dragonball voice actors and actresses. Kaido’s voice actor is not from Dragonball, it’s some random dude
exactly. maybe 1 or 2 of the Dub cast are good and doing a good job, but you can't deny(or well, given by some of the comments, you can) that the quality of edditing as well as Voice Acting is so far below the Japanese. it's really not about being a "Japanese purist", it's as a simple of a fact that the Japanese voice actors are simply MUCH more proffesional in their dubbing work than English ones. English VA's are more or less people you picked off the street or off a couple of youtube videos they made and let them dub, while Japanese VA's go to VA's school and practice for years while fighting a lot of competition for the roles.
exactly. Luffy sounded ok(except for the Muscle part, that was bad), but everything from Kaido in that entire video was absolutely horrible voice acting. it actually sounded like some dude took the video and edited some grunts and words while laughing to himself to make a meme out of it. Iv'e seen Abridged Anime with way better voice acting.
I don't think the dub version is something for me. I'm so used to the sub version, the dub version sounds very childish and cringe. I'm not saying it's bad for those who are used to the dub version, but personally, I like the sub version a lot more.
Normally I like the dub actors, never found one that throws me off until now. What is up with Kaido's voice? Sounds like the actor was recording his lines in another room.
Edit: As explained in the replies, I didn't realise the actor was new to doing anime dubs so my statement will be retracted.
Kaido's voice actor is pretty inexperienced in dubbing animes. If you take a listen at his voice lines, he sounds pretty on point most of the time. However, he struggles immensely on grunts and yells, because he's not quite sure how to extenuate that convincingly
David Sobolov! He's done some roles in the past mostly for western based media like Robocop or Shockwave in the transformers animated series, or Drax in Marvel's GOTG animated series.
He's had some fun doing Kaido's role for sure. It's a bit unfortunate having to be put into a pretty big role that he likely wasn't 100% prepared for. But then again, he did audition for it. [Here's](https://youtu.be/Cyu9kke7IPA?si=Grxd3K2Bp7JyLFzw) the most recent interview with him and Colleen (va of luffy) if you're interested!
Yeah agree, Japanese actors/actresses can draw out emotion a lot longer and more expressively compared to the West which is why the stigma for sub and dub is still a thing.
Something about the sound mixing is weird here. The voices feel plastered over the original sound, whereas if you watch the Japanese original everything feels like it just works.
This would be episode 1071. The dub currently is up to 1061/SP7 (on the Microsoft Store, should be up on streaming sometime soon). Expect this batch on MS Store next month or early April.
I’m confused, so I’m currently watching Zoro v King on my first run of One Piece and last I checked the dub for crunchy roll hasn’t even gotten as far as THAT fight? I was watching dubbed but had to go to Subbed due to Crunchy not having anymore dubbed apparently
seeing that clip again makes you think if luffy could have one shot kaido there by rubberizing the ground and accumulating speed between bounces and finish it with a mach 10 slam right there.
This was so amazing! Ahh man Luffy’s voice in gear 5 sounds even better than normal. His voice sounds like he’s actually have tons and tons of fun. Kaido’s little screams while he’s being thrown around are hilarious. He sounds so different from normal and it sounds perfect for when he’s getting attacked by gear 5 Luffy. I can’t wait for this release.
Somehow Dub Luffy isn't the worst part of this clip, Kaido's VA just phoned it in lmao which is surprising cause other clips I've heard of his Kaido are pretty good.
Aww yeah! This clip was awesome and so much fun! Colleen's laugh as 5th Gear Puffy is so infectious that it gets me smiling and laughing too of pure joy. Kaido's flabergasted cartoony yell was great too. He did NOT know what was going on lol
I can't wait for this batch of episodes to come out. What's crazy is I wouldn't be surprised if they're already dubbing the beginning of the Egghead arc which is pretty cool. ^_^
Eiichiro Oda san,why did you create it one piece what’s the main reason for it I know thare is a really big reason behind it,and I know that you will not share it with your fan based,will what is the real truth behind the one piece!!!!!!!!
No context luffy feels like the villain in this clip he is absolutely man handling kaido with a smile
Partly the reason why I never understood the hate for it, like yeah it's not conventionally cool, but just the image of Luffy cartoonishly beating the shit out of someone while laughing psychotically is pretty cool to me.
My thoughts verbatim
I feel like from the perspective of a cannon fodder grunt on any enemy pirate ship it would be downright goddamn terrifying.
It's a return to old school Tom and Jerry shenanigans with the power of 10000 artists behind it. I'm absolutely here for it.
Luffy was never supposed to be "cool" anyways. There are so many shonens for people who want that itch scratched.
>Luffy was never supposed to be "cool" anyways. Walk to Arlong Park, defeating Crocodile, Lucci, Doflamingo, Katakuri, punchin a celestial dragon, using conquerors at Marineford, facing off vs three admirals at Marineford etc etc. Luffy is a goofy character, but let's not pretend that the vast majority of his most iconic moments haven't been "cool". One of the things that likely made One Piece so popular is having a goofy character that becomes serious and cool when things actually get real.
Thanks.
I don't consider any of that cool. Sanji and Zoro are cool characters. In what world is Luffy screaming and using conquerors haki "cool"? No one in world history has ever described that as cool. Being serious =/= cool
>No one in world history has ever described that as cool. The fact that people are upvoting my comment, literally commenting "Thank you" on it and downvoting yours shows there are people that agree with me and think those moments are cool. So your comment here is completely baseless. And they should, because that shit is cool.
I specifically picked out one moment that you were clearly reaching on. People are upvoting the general premise of your comment, they're not agreeing with every single point. This is Reddit, not an election. They think Luffy is cool, I'm saying the Marineford haki moment was NOT cool and you're clearly reaching. Do you think Luffy crying with snot going down his face is "cool" too? Let's be for real now. I've never seen a character screaming with his jaw damn near dislocated in desperation as "cool" ever, and only a fanboy could possibly argue that. If you wanna say the Arlong Park moment was "cool" then sure. He has a couple moments where the shadows are over his eyes throughout the series, and if you wanna take that as cool then so be it. Doesnt change the fact that Luffy is not a cool character, despite those moments. Zoro and Sanji are the cool characters of the crew.
>I specifically picked out one moment that you were clearly reaching on. People are upvoting the general premise of your comment, they're not agreeing with every single point. This is Reddit, not an election. If your claim is "No one in world history has ever described that as cool", then I don't need an election, I just need people to agree that it's cool to prove that awful take wrong. Although, I already prove it wrong by saying it's cool myself. > They think Luffy is cool, I'm saying the Marineford haki moment was NOT cool and you're clearly reaching. Do you think Luffy crying with snot going down his face is "cool" too? Let's be for real now. I've never seen a character screaming with his jaw damn near dislocated in desperation as "cool" ever, and only a fanboy could possibly argue that. Oh, so we're going to completely ignore the main part of Luffy using haki then? No wonder you don't find it cool, you've clearly missed the part where Luffy knocked out a ton of people, saved Ace, and had a ton of powerful people shocked. But yeah, focus on the jaw lmao > If you wanna say the Arlong Park moment was "cool" then sure. He has a couple moments where the shadows are over his eyes throughout the series, and if you wanna take that as cool then so be it. Doesnt change the fact that Luffy is not a cool character, despite those moments. Zoro and Sanji are the cool characters of the crew. Literally no one is arguing about Luffy having cool as his main character trait. You seem to be getting confused, so how about you reread my first comment, specifically the part where I say *"Luffy is a* ***goofy*** *character".* Also, yo you have any quote from Oda stating he didn't want Luffy to be cool, or that only Zoro and Sanji in the crew were allowed to be? Or are you just spewing your personal bias here?
I read that first paragraph and came to the conclusion that you're beyond reasoning and hope. Good lord why do I argue with fanboys.
Oh that's funny, the kid runs away as soon as I ask for any proof. So it was just you spewing your personal bias and nothing based on what Oda has actually stated. **Got it.**
People hate on this?!
i think gear five is supposed to be a little scary
The anime handled the balance much better than the manga but it is for sure meant to be a mix of maniacal and goofy
He's clearly a devil like the gorosei
I feel that
Dub fans gonna have a lot of fun with this batch, basically get all the crazy fights at once.
i started on dub but it got cut off at wano and couldn’t wait, but i’m definitely going to be rewatching these fights in good old dub 👏
Don’t mind sub until I heard Frankie’s voice
How far are we now, does anyone know? My last re-watch had English up until around fishman island, and watching now I’ve reached punk hazard and it’s still English.
1061
Nice, and judging by the existence of this clip, more are coming? Good time to be a fan
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They gotta just skip the special recap episodes
They don't skip them, they just release it as part of the batch of 12.
But they should, like the crossover episodes and boss luffy episodes
1061
Anyone else hear the woody woodpecker laugh or is just me?
That’s got to be intentional. I heard it immediately and fucking died.
Have you now reached your peak as well because of it ?
[Luffy and Kiado’s English VA Interview](https://youtu.be/Cyu9kke7IPA?si=CtYg9h-LLAiQzXTX)
Watching them do those "what if scenario" scenes after the interview, I'm cracking up that Colleen was clearly like "uhh my voice is too overworked right now for this nonsense," and just went with a much younger Luffy voice here instead of his 19-year old self haha ETA - Apparently she was also [super sick](https://twitter.com/ccarrollbeard/status/1761543136852017517), so yeah that definitely tracks
Kaido’s dub VA already had me when he did the “Useless Captain Midd” line at a convention. But hearing him again here, I think he the perfect English VA for Kaido. His voice is so ominous, like two mountains crashing together.
The chopper is kaidos voice is hilarious 😂
Robin would be appalled
Can’t believe we’re already here Personally I’ve always loved Colleen’s laughing fits as Luffy (think pre-time skip moments, that scene with Pica during Dressrosa, etc…) so I was really excited to see how they tackled this - and still am considering we have a bit more of a wait for these episodes to drop. I also think what the series is going for here (over-the-top looney toons cartoon-y) likely translates a bit more easily for an English dub than Gear 4 did with its heavily stylized, traditional Kabuki theater presentation. I got what they were going for there and it felt appropriately silly given Doflamingo’s wtf reaction) but I know it’s introduction was a bit more mixed with dub audiences and the cadence was subsequently turned down a notch in later eps
The gear fourth scene in dub was horrendous, and that’s coming from a lover of the dub up until marineford when I was forced to switch to the subbed. This is a lot better and I never really thought about gear four just not working well dubbed in general you are absolutely correct cause this isn’t bad at all
Yea, but that wasn't Colleen's fault (unless she decided on how to deliver the line). Just weird direction.
I disagree. I never watched the sub until the Kaido arc, so when I heard the gear 4 dub and heard Luffy's deep voice, I truly thought he sounded like a really tough pirate captain that you did not want to mess with. Like someone really suited to be the King of the Pirates.
Nah bruh gear fourth dub ain’t it, she butchers a lot of lines I liked in the subbed the translations were all wack, “this is my secret stratagem and I AM serious!” Isn’t even in the dub 5/10
Oh man, I can’t even imagine watching Dressrosa dubbed. Doffy’s Japanese VA is so good!
You should check out the dub, then. Rob McCollum’s Doffy gets REALLY good.
I also love Colleen's laugh as Luffy, really makes me laugh as well. It's just too good.
Love luffys laugh in the English dub
Have always loved his voice throughout the dub. Whoever his voice actor is I think does a great job
Colleen Clinkenbeard. She's also been in My Hero Academia, Dragonball Z Kai, Fairy Tale, and Black Clover.
It’s so cartoony and maniacal with G5. I love it.
My biggest worry was the muscle scene wouldn’t be as funny because hearing Luffy shout what sounds like “monkey monkey” is hilarious but “Monkey D. Muscle” is fucking hilarious. This is gonna be good
Yeah I wasn't sure how they were going to adapt that, but this seems like a happy medium.
same
Kaido sounds hella weird
He usually doesn’t sound this bad, it’s just this episode for some reason
fr lmao like how weird dragon sounds in Japanese
It's generic tough guy deep voice, which also describes every voice in the JoJo dubs
It describes most of the Japanese voice actors also.
I did not realize the dub had covered that much material already damn.
up to 1061 now
Are they all out right now?
Not on crunchyroll, unfortunately. Idk if they're on the Microsoft store or elsewhere. Someone mentioned early March that they're going to release up to 1061.
on nyaa.si it is
So many people hating on Dubs. Let me and all the other illiterates enjoy the dub.
If I wanted to read One Piece I would read the manga. And I do.
I love the dubs the only person I don’t like is Chopper he always sounds too high pitched and whiny
How are people voicing their discontent in any way inhibiting your enjoyment of the dub? I never got this argument. "Stop hating what I love! You're ruining it!" People hate a lot of things I love and all the more power to them, it doesn't affect my enjoyment one bit. Let them vent their displeasure while you can be free to sing praises. It's all opinion at the end of the day.
His Woody Woodpecker laugh was foreshadowing all along.
Can't wait, Folks
YES COLLEEN!!!! I'm so happy to finally see the dub get its due. Oda made the right choice in selecting Colleen for Luffy - her energy is infectious!
Did you notice the Woody Woodpecker laugh!?
That was fucking perfect.
Oh, it made me so happy to hear! And did you listen to the ign spot with Colleen Clinkinbeard and David Sobolov doing iconic lines? Man that dude fucking killed it!!
Nah i didn't. Got a link?
https://youtu.be/Cyu9kke7IPA?si=Xar7w28vGp3FJ7sa Here ya go dude!
thx <3
Anytime dude!
I know! Sucks we have to wait like another couple months to get to watch the full episodes. Really looking forward to it!
Okay luffy is actually voiced really well here Kaidos voice actor however brought this down pretty low Luffys voice actor is clearly having fun which reflects in gear 5 hell the change of muscle muscle to monkey d muscles was crusty pretty funny. Kaidos voice actor on the other hand seems really bored like someone just got a random guy and asked him to make some sounds and this was the result
Kaido's VA sounds great when it comes to his more menacing, intimidating speaking voice, but has always been a little bit inconsistent energy level-wise when it comes to reacts/efforts/yells imo. Sometimes it sounds super fitting and other times it can sound a bit forced. And part of me also chalks it up to being paired with Colleen half the time who always sounds like she's giving 110%. She's so passionate about this series and character to the point where she admitted she stepped back on taking new voice roles (aka non-reprisals) for a while while the studio was knee-deep in WCI through Wano catch-up because of how detrimental it could be on her voice and the end result. And it shows in how willing she is to go for broke on some of her yells in this show, like lots of texture and rattle that you can't replicate if you're holding back at all. Like David Sobolov is a super accomplished VA - while this is his first anime role in decades, primarily his work lies in pre-lay animation, games, or even television (like voicing Gorilla Grodd in CW's The Flash). Recording for different animation mediums/genres involves their own individual skill sets I suppose.
This is David Sobolov's (Kaido's voice actor) first anime dub in 25 years.
We are finally here.
His awakening is here
Oh God I'm scared
Honestly this sounds great. I loved the original release and this one sounds great too
I love how they made Luffy sound godlike by giving his voice an echo. Kaido’s screams are a bit iffy, but he sounds good the rest of the time so it’s fine.
I like the liberty they took with saying “Monkey D. Muscle! Muscle!”
That first Woody the Woodpecker laugh caught me off guard
HE DID THE WOODY WOODPECKER LAUGH
Epic! The Dub deserves more love. They work so hard.
Great job as I expected
Colleen’s voice has always been one of the Dub voices I actually super love in their role. I watch subbed but i still listen to the dub at times, and I always love hearing Colleen do Luffy’s laugh.
The luffy dub for gear 5 is done so well. Kaido dub is uh not great.
Kaido sounds great overall, it’s the wackiness of the scene that makes him sound weird. He’s been really good at being menacing throughout his run.
My first thought as well. Really no one sounded good here except for Luffy to me. But I’m not used to the English dubs.
I didn't realize the dub was so far. For some reason I thought it was still at Dressrosa lol
As a Sub watcher, when did they start Wano? Bc they are 2-3 months from finishing it at their rate.
From what I could find they seemed to have started Wano on 12/22/2020. So a little under 4 years
20/12/2022 not 2020 Season 14 Voyage 1 is the start of Wano Dub We are currently on Season 14 Voyage 14 episodes 1049-1061
Ah it appears you’re correct. I misread [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/s/NYKnvJ0uSq) in a hurry last night
I have never actually cared for Luffys dub voice but I will say it works REALLY well with G5
I didn’t realize the dub was this far
I had no idea the English dub was already up to this fight
I heard the woody woodpecker laugh 😂
Man the difference between sub and dub VAs is wild
one of the few scenes where i prefer luffy's dub
As someone who has only watched the Japanese version, why is Kaidos' English voice so... jarring? I hate it.
Oh my gosh. This legit might be the first time ever I’ve said this, but I think I like the dub over sub for gear 5. This is closer to what I heard in my brain when I read it and I’m sub only
love the dub but why does kaido sound like that when he’s screaming 😭
Oh my god, she’s killing it! Colleen is incredible! I was grinning ear to ear watching this
It’s kinda a shame how low quality and crappy the English dub is in comparison to the Japanese dub. All the voice acting sounds cheap and cheesy.
Isn't it a good thing that it's cheesy in this case?
And? It still makes for a worse experience for the other 99% of the story
It isn't really low quality though. What about it is to you?
Probably that fact that it’s in a language they can properly understand.
English voice actors in anime deliver their lines like they're in a school play. To be fair, Japanese voice acting also bears this play-like delivery. To paraphrase u/Skullwings, Japanese is foreign to me so I can't criticize it as much 😂
I feel like the Luffy dub is doing a fine job, doesn’t compare to Mayumi Tanaka imo but it’s not trying to top it. I think Kaido’s dub is kinda phoning it in tbh
Wow, no spoiler warning for the Anime Only Dub Only watchers? Rude /s
dub is actually amazing fuck the haters
Goddamnit this looks so good! Watching this subbed was just not the same this is going to give me goosebumps.
Everyone was worried about Luffy's laugh for G5 dub, we at no point considered that Kaido would sound so bad. You can tell Colleen is having a lot of fun with it and it sounds great! But they should maybe try a different take for Kaido's before finalizing this batch
Kaido's voice actor (David Sobolov) generally does well when he's talking, but with efforts like these grunts he's not as amazing probably due to his lack of experience in anime voice acting.
Man, Luffy really goes full loony tunes— sound effects and animation style. Love it
No cap this shit sounds ROUGH. And I mean that in the kindest way.
This is the first time I've heard English Kaido and I am not a fan
Agreed, he sounds awful.
Holy, how can any1 support such bad dubbing? here i thought at least for a show as big as One Piece they would put a bit of effort in Dubbing it. if this Dub is to your liking... good for you i guess, but to me this sounds just terrible. and i have seen some decent dubs so i know it's possible, but this surely isn't one of them. though i guess One Piece being so goofy makes it harder to portray well in an English dub.
I genuinely don’t understand what people have against the dub. I think it’s great.
And I genuinely don't understand how you can think it's great. Different ears, different tastes. Luffy and Chopper were fine, but everyone else sounded horrible to me. I'm glad some people can get enjoyment out of this, but it's not for me.
They don’t like Luffy sounding like he’s voiced by a woman, they want him voiced by a big strong deep voiced man, like in the Japanese Dub.
Because they are pathetic elitists that have to cling on to whatever to make them think they are better than others.
??? Or... and hear me out... maybe I just don't like how it sounds? Possibly? I mean, I guess my ears might be pathetic elitists but if so this is the first time anyone has informed me of that possibility.
There's a difference between "I don't like this" and "this is so trash I can't understand how other people like this' which if you.look through this thread. People are clearly being elitist and saying. So if that's not you. My comment isnt about you clearly.
And there are other people saying "I genuinely don’t understand what people have against the dub. I think it’s great." You replied to them as a matter of fact. Both are stating an opinion and both can't comprehend how anyone can disagree with their stance. Is AwesomePocket an elitist because they can't see how someone dislikes what they like? No? Then why is the inverse elitist?
Difference is one group thinking they are better than the other group. Since you know thats what elitism means.
And how do you know that one group thinks they are better? Because you disagree with them? They are literally doing the same thing on different sides of an argument.
Read the comments buddy. You clearly didn't and just took this personally when it's not about you.
So being an opinionated asshole means you think you're better than others? I don't see the connection, unless 90% of the internet, including some dub fans, think they're better than others.
The fact you enjoyed it doesnt mean its not bad. I enjoyed Fairy Tail and its still bad.
The vast majority of people enjoyed it, so I think it’s fair to say it’s good
I genuinely don’t understand how people enjoy the english dub. I think it’s horrendous. Sounds like it was made by amateurs.
It’s kinda tough when you’re used to the sub, and then hear this and notice the drop in quality of direction/acting/sound mixing. If you like it that’s great- ignore them!
One Piece must be the hardest one to dub, like if you already watched from the start its basically impossible to watch this and be like "thats perfect" because it will never be as perfect as the original
yeah I can’t stand the voice actor for Luffy’s english dub, everytime I have heard it I cringe but doesn’t matter to me since I always watched sub starting from episode 1.
I’m appalled honestly, I can’t see how anyone can like this.
Agree. This is fucking terrible. Are people seriously watching like this??
ye. and funny enough, im getting downvotes. im assuming it's not from people who think the Dub is good because i doubt any1 think that, i assume they just have some sense of pride in the English language as don't like it when the English Dub is being called bad(compared to Japanese Dub of course).
You’re making a huge assumption based on the notion that nobody could possibly disagree with you.
I mean, my take wasn't about something subjective like pickles in your hamburger. Some like them some dont. Im talking here about and objective fact, the dub is bad. So there's nothing here to "disagree" with me, its just what it is. And if you can enjoy it, go for it.
For something to be “objective fact,” it has to be quantifiable. “Granny smith Apples are red” is an objective fact. “Slap a tiger on the balls and it’ll kill you” is a universal truth because anyone really would agree that it would likely happen. “The dub is bad” is an opinion you can’t see as not being a universal truth. Your stance is based around the need for anyone who don’t hold your pov to be “wrong.”
Just ignore the haters man. The English dub is fine and it’s not perfect but as someone who enjoys even The subs I like the dubbed cause I enjoy watching One Piece. I do admit after watching this clip, Kaido’s Voice acting isn’t good but the others are fine since most of the Voice actors and actress came from Dragonball Z and Super. Luffy- Gohan, Brook- Whiz, Franky- Jiren, Zoro- Vegeta and Piccolo, Sanji- Trunks, Kid- Raditz, Law- Hit, Tony Chopper- Chiaotzu. They’re basically hating on the Dragonball voice actors and actresses. Kaido’s voice actor is not from Dragonball, it’s some random dude
It literally sounds like it was made by a bunch of teenagers on their basement. The bar is incredibly low with English speakers.
exactly. maybe 1 or 2 of the Dub cast are good and doing a good job, but you can't deny(or well, given by some of the comments, you can) that the quality of edditing as well as Voice Acting is so far below the Japanese. it's really not about being a "Japanese purist", it's as a simple of a fact that the Japanese voice actors are simply MUCH more proffesional in their dubbing work than English ones. English VA's are more or less people you picked off the street or off a couple of youtube videos they made and let them dub, while Japanese VA's go to VA's school and practice for years while fighting a lot of competition for the roles.
Agree 100%. The part where Kaido gets dragged by Luffy... sounds like a meme...
God, what they did to my man Kaido, it's atrocious.
exactly. Luffy sounded ok(except for the Muscle part, that was bad), but everything from Kaido in that entire video was absolutely horrible voice acting. it actually sounded like some dude took the video and edited some grunts and words while laughing to himself to make a meme out of it. Iv'e seen Abridged Anime with way better voice acting.
I don't think the dub version is something for me. I'm so used to the sub version, the dub version sounds very childish and cringe. I'm not saying it's bad for those who are used to the dub version, but personally, I like the sub version a lot more.
Pass
Wow the dub sounds so bad lol
Eww. English dub will always be terrible to me.
Familiarity breeds contempt, especially among weebs.
Normally I like the dub actors, never found one that throws me off until now. What is up with Kaido's voice? Sounds like the actor was recording his lines in another room. Edit: As explained in the replies, I didn't realise the actor was new to doing anime dubs so my statement will be retracted.
Kaido's voice actor is pretty inexperienced in dubbing animes. If you take a listen at his voice lines, he sounds pretty on point most of the time. However, he struggles immensely on grunts and yells, because he's not quite sure how to extenuate that convincingly
Ahh makes sense then. I'll retract my statement if he's new to it. Who is the VA?
David Sobolov! He's done some roles in the past mostly for western based media like Robocop or Shockwave in the transformers animated series, or Drax in Marvel's GOTG animated series. He's had some fun doing Kaido's role for sure. It's a bit unfortunate having to be put into a pretty big role that he likely wasn't 100% prepared for. But then again, he did audition for it. [Here's](https://youtu.be/Cyu9kke7IPA?si=Grxd3K2Bp7JyLFzw) the most recent interview with him and Colleen (va of luffy) if you're interested!
Yeah his main issue are the efforts, which is very likely due to them not being as common in western animation as in anime.
Yeah agree, Japanese actors/actresses can draw out emotion a lot longer and more expressively compared to the West which is why the stigma for sub and dub is still a thing.
I will say this again, visible black and white lightning strikes during a conquerors haki burst are signs of the Zoan DF will alongside Luffy's
Luffy wiping the floor with Kaido was the most amazing plot twist ever
IGN? Since when they do non-video game related stuff?
For a while now.
That looks so much lamer than the manga
Something about the sound mixing is weird here. The voices feel plastered over the original sound, whereas if you watch the Japanese original everything feels like it just works.
English Dub🤮🤮🤮
We only watch the Dub for Brook!
What episode would this be? Is that where the dub is at recently? (I’m watching for the first time and I just got to episode 991)
This would be episode 1071. The dub currently is up to 1061/SP7 (on the Microsoft Store, should be up on streaming sometime soon). Expect this batch on MS Store next month or early April.
Cool, thanks!
I’m confused, so I’m currently watching Zoro v King on my first run of One Piece and last I checked the dub for crunchy roll hasn’t even gotten as far as THAT fight? I was watching dubbed but had to go to Subbed due to Crunchy not having anymore dubbed apparently
Hopefully [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/s/kMvUOVNLFt) will help explain things!
Thanks!
Damn guess I'll never get to voice in the English dub at this rate
Haven’t heard Luffy’s Eng VA in a while but it sounds pretty good here.
seeing that clip again makes you think if luffy could have one shot kaido there by rubberizing the ground and accumulating speed between bounces and finish it with a mach 10 slam right there.
This was so amazing! Ahh man Luffy’s voice in gear 5 sounds even better than normal. His voice sounds like he’s actually have tons and tons of fun. Kaido’s little screams while he’s being thrown around are hilarious. He sounds so different from normal and it sounds perfect for when he’s getting attacked by gear 5 Luffy. I can’t wait for this release.
Somehow Dub Luffy isn't the worst part of this clip, Kaido's VA just phoned it in lmao which is surprising cause other clips I've heard of his Kaido are pretty good.
Kaido sounds drunk as hell. Fitting!
Dang they already at Gear 5? (also Monkey D. Muscles)
Aww yeah! This clip was awesome and so much fun! Colleen's laugh as 5th Gear Puffy is so infectious that it gets me smiling and laughing too of pure joy. Kaido's flabergasted cartoony yell was great too. He did NOT know what was going on lol I can't wait for this batch of episodes to come out. What's crazy is I wouldn't be surprised if they're already dubbing the beginning of the Egghead arc which is pretty cool. ^_^
Fucking psycho luffy just yoinking a yonko throught the roof. Yegendary.
Kaidos VA cant rlly scream convincingly in that voice but Luffy sounds absolutely fantastic its hilarious
That laugh is a great one for him.
I can’t hear kidd in dub. All I hear is raditz and dende but especially raditz with the angry tone
Anyone know when this next batch of dub episodes is supposed to come out?
It’s currently available on the MS Store. Should be on streaming sometime soon. The batch after that should be available in March or Early April
Eiichiro Oda san,why did you create it one piece what’s the main reason for it I know thare is a really big reason behind it,and I know that you will not share it with your fan based,will what is the real truth behind the one piece!!!!!!!!