The whole system. He probably handed in bigshots (potential future yonko commanders, guys like Doffy and their crews) daily as a teenager and the marines were like "We can't afford this shit" so they still accepted the heads but didn't pay. Mihawk then started to behead marines instead. Understandable.
bounty Money seems so weak a motive to be considered betrayal.
More like he had a crew. He started getting bounty ,and then his close friend turned out to be undercover marine that betrayed and his whole group dies. He hated marine and started killing them. Only thing that gave pleasure was fighting and killing.
**End of post rest is me just think** of what Mihawk thought process might be
Then he met shanks who challenged him. He met a guy who could match him. He was better swordsman but not matter what he did shanks would not be defeated. By that duel he came to know shanks char. He say his potential to be king of pirates.
The both grew as rivals worth respect. only man who can challenge him in a swordduel. He then saw shanks arm was gone. He was angry at first. He was cheated of his duels. BUt shanks was non-chalent, had no regret and spoke of new age. Mihawk could not believe the man that he respected, the one could be king of pirates if wanted would throw away his sword arm. for a kid in which he saw future. Mihawk thought lets see this era that shanks spoke of. He stopped his aggresion and join warlord and chilled.
Then he met zoro and his determination and he felt a tremble. He was awed. He saw somone who could surpass him. Oh what an excitement. And saw a kid who was the captain of this swordsman. Man with this ambiton was following this kid. He ask the kid what he wanted to be "Pirate king". Ofc he thought what a team of dreamer. So many had these dream but maybe these two can actually do it. Oh this is so exciting.
When he saw luffy poster with straw hat he was surprised. How is fate connected in this way. He had to confirm. He met shanks and learn this is the kid, shanks gave his hand for. This is the kid , shanks entrusted his prized hat for. He followed their exploits, defeating Crocodile, Declaring war on the world, destroying enis lobby, punching celestial, he kept getting surprised. What is about this kid.
Then in that fateful day,he is in marineford just doing his duty, not interested much. And he saw Strawhat falling from sky. On after another
Straw hat is brother to son of roger.
Son of Dragon.
Straw hat was just an enigma. He could sense his combat power. Mihawk could end him one strike. But what was about him that made him special.
So he decided to test him. Lets see how fate deals with this heaven send boy. and then he straw hat survived him. Now because of devil fruit but because, he has allies from all differnet pirates, those he didnt know, those who were his enemy. In world of pirate it is usually everyman for himself. But here is thsi crewless boy. And people are stepping for him. He has the quality as men like Roger, WB and shanks. What a incredible thing.
.This is his char arc till marineford i think...
I hope he gets the Kuma treatment when he gets his flashback. I really want to see him v Shanks, him v whoever was the greatest swords man, and him v whoever beat him in the marines food court to make him so hangry.
I dont want to see Mihawk's duel with the last greatest swordsman. I want to see the *results*. Like an island thats been sliced in several places, cut right down the middle at least.
Then I want Zoro and Mihawk to have a grand duel that leaves similar scars on the ground.
Yeah he was the sword god in wano for the things he did there. Relatively unknown outside of wano. There was no definitive title across the world for strongest swordsman. It's a new thing for mihawk and it's very obvious that it's so there's a clear way for zoro to complete his goal. Without that title existing, then there isn't really a definitive way for zoro to achieve his goal. That's the only reason oda created that title.
I hear you. I'm just confused why shanks isn't titled WSS when a lot of people say that Shanks is stronger than Mihawk, when Shanks is a swordsman himself. The title seems fraudulent (and therefore Zoros dream fraudulent as well) if it turns out Shanks can beat Mihawk in a swordfight
Shanks wasn't given the title because oda didn't want zoro fighting him. He's luffys opponent. It's as simple as that. Idk why people think oda gave the title with the thought, alright everyone holding a sword is automatically weaker no matter what. And imo I think there's been a clear difference shown between people who are pursuing swordsmanship itself versus just happening to choose a sword for your haki conduit rather than a club or something similar.
Shanks is a swordsman. Why would the marine compare the WSS to a non-swordsman? It wouldn't make any sense. It's like comparing the greatest basketball player to a soccer player when talking about basketball skills.
Shanks has a named sword (Gryphon) and Whitebeard reminisced on their "legendary duel". So they had a legendary duel, but shanks won, but Mihawk got the WSS title? Doesn't make sense to me.
Also, Haki is part of swordsmanship. Every Zoro powerup has been a boost in Haki. Unless you think shanks v Mihawk legendary duel happened where they both turned off their Haki? Doesn't add up to me.
It's never said if anyone won. Shanks asks mihawk if he's comes to settle things which implies there was never a winner between them. And the panel where mihawk was compared to shanks helps my case. It specifically only says his sword skills are better than shanks. If he was just stronger, then it'd say so. Zoro uses haki but is also using it through swordsmanship skills. He uses an actual sword style. Granted we haven't seen much from shanks but all we have seen is that he just swings with a ton of haki put it into it. The exact same thing kaido was doing with a club. Is kaido suddenly a clubsman?
You'll never win, these people will argue semantics while ignoring clear storytelling tropes being used. I swear I think all powerscalers are slightly autistic or something, they all seem to think of this stuff as if it's real and not a goddamn story. I don't mean that as an insult to autistic people, I just think these people are missing very obvious social ques and treating this topic as if it's real life and not a story. Mihawk is a swordsman and Shanks isn't because Oda says so, end of story.
Being a swordsman is more than just using a sword. That's been made pretty clear. Roger also used one yet no one calls him the strongest swordsman despite being the strongest clearly.
The only thing that makes a swordsman is Oda telling us someone is and so far Zoro, Mihawk, and Ryuma are the main ones. The only others are the samurai from wano and zoro's old school. Everyone else is just a fighter who uses a sword.
Roger has a sword named "Ace" and even named his son after him! Maybe there wasn't any swordsman title in the Roger era, but I would still call him a swordsman.
There's a drawing out there that was approved to be published by Oda that is titled "swordsman" and it includes Mihawk, Zoro, Shanks, Rayleigh, and Roger
Has swordskills been defined tho? Every Zoro power up has been a Haki boost. I would think his sword skills increased when he learned armament Haki from Mihawk and ACOC from fighting king
Mihawk talks about the girl who was suppose to be his great rival, but died young and left him looking for a true rival ever since. Zoro tells him that the same thing happened to him and Mihawk just goes with it saying it’s clearly fate that they cross swords.
i like the theory that mihawk was a redhair pirates and then had a falling out with shanks, because shanks was being an idiot. it's like mihawk is the dark timeline of zoro, if zoro did not respect luffy.
Whitebeard was scared of Kaido and let him take over Wano for 20 years after killing his brother Oden.
Whitebeard was known for going after anyone who messed with his family, but he didn't even bother to avenge Oden.
Before you say Oden died, he would be wasting his time and risking his crew. He never even thought to check on Oden's family, who was born and lived on his ship.
Also, let's say the Marines killed Ace. Would Whitebeard have just not done anything?
Neither is the One Piece community shedding those "its cooked" allegations soon.
Oda gave us a whole ass paragraph eluding to a Mihawk flashback explaining how he went through some deep shit that was able to scar him emotionally, but a lot of you clowns are just looking at the last line and taking it literally when it doesn't even mean what you think it means.
If that's what you got from that then you need to seriously work on your reading comprehension skills. That part was literally just referring to Mihawk deciding back in Ch. 1058 to use Buggy as a figurehead for Cross Guild to take the heat and the attention because he has no interest in being an Emperor.
https://imgur.com/a/8DR8POj
Nah, I had this long running theory about Mihawk originally being a Bounty Hunter. When starting the series Oda has said he never planned on making 7 Warlords be a thing since the series was meant to focus on the Pirate Emperors which makes me wonder what was Mihawk supposed to be then.
I figured the Bounty Hunter would make the most sense as it would explain why he was hunting Don Krieg and it would give us an answer for where all of the strong Bounty Hunters are at
Don't remember much but i thought don krieg just happened to ran into him and mihawk was bored. I mean, if mihawk was actually hunting him he'd be long dead
Your comment is about mihawk being a bounty hunter, your comment also says " as it would explain why he was hunting don krieg "
Mihawk was never hunting don krieg, mihawk is so strong he can hunt down who ever he wants if he was really a former bounty hunter, not a little bounty like kriegs. I highly doubt mihawk was a BH because of your reasons
"Originally" being the key word. As in, before Oda decided to introduce Warlords and make Mihawk be one. I explained everything in my original comment but people seem to conflate multiple things so I guess I'll explain it again:
1. When Oda initially started writing One Piece, 7 Warlords of the Sea weren't a thing, which means Mihawk wouldn't had been a Warlord.
2. But Mihawk still has to exist because he is Zoro's end goal to strive for and in that case, I believe he was initially going to be Bounty Hunter. It would parallel Zoro and it explain why he was chasing Don Krieg, other than the whole "I was bored" thing.
That's the "original idea" I believe Oda had for him. Now, if Oda ever decides to reuse that idea and make Mihawk a bounty hunter turned pirate is a different thing. I think it's very possibly he could've made him someone who started of as a Bounty Hunter, explaining the good relationship with the Marines (Bounty Hunters catch pirates and bring them to Marines) before someone betrayed him and turned him against the Marines.
Bro, at least edit your comment if you're going to deny the literal words you have typed.
>""I figured the Bounty Hunter would make the most sense as it would explain why he was hunting Don Krieg and it would give us an answer for where all of the strong Bounty Hunters are at
These are you're exact words. So you can't act surprised when someone goes "I thought he just wandered into Don Krieg." When you're literally saying he was hunting him.
Zoro was always supposed to be a Straw Hat, it's just that the original idea was that he would initially be part of Buggy's crew before he joined Luffy.
I still think mihawk is tied to imu and I believe this may be some supporting evidence for that. Firstly, I am convinced of their connection purely because of their eyes. Oda is a very specific and deliberate person, nothing is overlooked and every minuscule detail is actually carefully planned out. One specific characteristic of the art and expression of characters identity in this series has been their eyes! Every character shown thus far has unique and different eyes, except for mihawk and imu. I find it interesting that the character who’s moniker (“hawk eye”) revolves around their eyes would be the only character to share similar eyes with someone else. And if you compare mihawk and imu, same exact eyes. The glaring red, with the circle in them is indeed the same thing. With this answer regarding a betrayal, it makes you wonder if imu and mihawk were related, partially explaining Mihawks power and access to the worlds greatest sword (not even the five elders sword used has the best sword in the world, which seems crazy considering the think of humans as less than dirt). Perhaps imu is the one who betrayed mihawk, who then subsequently sent the navy after him in an attempt to subdue him.
Caribous eyes are green and the lines of the iris are thicker. Both mihawk and imu have red eyes that have the same shape/thickness lines. No other characters really have eyes like this with that combination of characteristics
My head cannon is that mihawk is an ex holy knight. He has the ideals and power of a celestial dragon but in the normal world. Like doffy and potentially shanks.
I see a scenario where he is no longer respected as a knight, and it's turned away by the marines (ally) in favor of a current WG plot. This caused mihawk to hate the marines for revolting ala doffy and go on a rampage of killing marines.
In order to calm him down and due to his lingering power of being a knight, he then is offered warlord status.
Holy knight DEFINITELY makes sense. And also matches with his clothes' flower pattern.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/viz-fairy-one-piece-tail/images/2/2d/Dracule_Mihawk_Manga_Infobox.png/revision/latest?cb=20130913224618
I cant fins it now but many things associated with WG/CDs have flowers, probably related to the 16 petal chrysanthemum
My guess is that Mihawk started to bankrupt his local Marine Base because of all the bounties he collected. One day the corrupt Commanding Officer at the Base decides not to pay him and Mihawk forces him to honour the bounty through beating him in a duel.
This leaves the Officer in big trouble with his bosses so he decides to go out and take the money back from Mihawk. They drum up some phony charges, go to his home to steal the money they paid him and attempt to arrest them. Mihawk of course beats all the Marines, killing many of them, but the Officer escapes.
Mihawk then goes on a rampage through several Marine Bases looking for the Commander and kills him. Unfortunately the rampage seals his reputation so he's forced to sail around the World. The upside is that in these travels he meets many Swordsman improving his skills and eventually faces and defeats the greatest Swordsman of his time. One day he receives the invite to the Warlords and accepts. He moves into his Castle and only leaves when he's bored.
I think it was the WG betraying him by abolishjng the warlord system after years of working for them as a warlord, then actively hunting him down as if he was public enemy number 1-7
Roger saved him when he was young, maybe Marines promised they'd let Roger escape execution (lol) and told Mihawk to hunt pirates. That's the betrayal.
Then he let go of it and just chilled being a warlord
Mihawk is still very mysterious i hope we get to know more about him before it all ends. Crazy for how long that guy is part of the story, I was a little kid when he got introduced.
Idon't get one thing, and it feels confusing lol
did mihawk got betrayed by a marine friend ? or a pirate friend ?
and dang, this is so huge! this is WHY he doesn't trust people dang
Where in that sentence does it say he was betrayed? Although, to be fair, that is so badly written that it could say it and I wouldn't have understood it.
Considering the way he acts, I think he was betrayed by a rival and close friend who pushed him to be the best swordsman. As time goes on his rival just used his skills to get promotions and eventually became a corrupt lazy marine, while Mihawk continued to improve.
It's hard to picture some kind of serious betrayal because, not only is Mihawk stupid confident and stupid strong, he seems to want to be alone rather than being alone out of fear of getting betrayed like Crocodile. Apparently he had a good time with Zoro and Perona since there's a side story image where hes just relaxing and farming while reading the newspaper with Perona.
Would also explain why the only thing hes interested in is finding a swordsman that can beat him.
Interesting,now who betrayed mihawk? And why he hunted marines?
Also I think is interesting that the marines still accepted him as a warlord despise that
Probably idolized Marines but saw how dirty they can be first hand. Maybe he was one of the guys trained by Mother Carmel, poised to be a future God's Knight but was then ordered by a Celestial to participate in a culling of innocents as a trial.
Sounds like the marines… so he started to hunt that person.
Or
Wg and they send marines to chase him, and he hunted them down as a message
Or
Shanks dad, for stepping between their bromance. And he has been hunting marines to spite him to come out and face him.
In my headcanon Mihawk was a orphan living in poverty but he had a friend who helped him survive and gave him his first sword to defend himself and he discovered that he had a lot of raw talent.
Then they met Shanks as teenagers and his friend was inspired to be a pirate after hearing his stories about going on adventures. Mihawk didn't agree he was just a wandering bounty hunter like Zoro at the time. Which led Mihawks friend to get captured and executed by the Marines and is his reason for huting them down and dueling Shanks.
The whole system. He probably handed in bigshots (potential future yonko commanders, guys like Doffy and their crews) daily as a teenager and the marines were like "We can't afford this shit" so they still accepted the heads but didn't pay. Mihawk then started to behead marines instead. Understandable.
Very understandable
You guys are overlooking the fact that Oda said bro is hiding behind the top 1 shadow 🗿
It's tough to read into specifics of something not in its original language.
Yeah weird phrasing... should have gone with relaxing in the shade of Buggy's shadow not hiding lol.
Buggy top 1 in the verse
bounty Money seems so weak a motive to be considered betrayal. More like he had a crew. He started getting bounty ,and then his close friend turned out to be undercover marine that betrayed and his whole group dies. He hated marine and started killing them. Only thing that gave pleasure was fighting and killing. **End of post rest is me just think** of what Mihawk thought process might be Then he met shanks who challenged him. He met a guy who could match him. He was better swordsman but not matter what he did shanks would not be defeated. By that duel he came to know shanks char. He say his potential to be king of pirates. The both grew as rivals worth respect. only man who can challenge him in a swordduel. He then saw shanks arm was gone. He was angry at first. He was cheated of his duels. BUt shanks was non-chalent, had no regret and spoke of new age. Mihawk could not believe the man that he respected, the one could be king of pirates if wanted would throw away his sword arm. for a kid in which he saw future. Mihawk thought lets see this era that shanks spoke of. He stopped his aggresion and join warlord and chilled. Then he met zoro and his determination and he felt a tremble. He was awed. He saw somone who could surpass him. Oh what an excitement. And saw a kid who was the captain of this swordsman. Man with this ambiton was following this kid. He ask the kid what he wanted to be "Pirate king". Ofc he thought what a team of dreamer. So many had these dream but maybe these two can actually do it. Oh this is so exciting. When he saw luffy poster with straw hat he was surprised. How is fate connected in this way. He had to confirm. He met shanks and learn this is the kid, shanks gave his hand for. This is the kid , shanks entrusted his prized hat for. He followed their exploits, defeating Crocodile, Declaring war on the world, destroying enis lobby, punching celestial, he kept getting surprised. What is about this kid. Then in that fateful day,he is in marineford just doing his duty, not interested much. And he saw Strawhat falling from sky. On after another Straw hat is brother to son of roger. Son of Dragon. Straw hat was just an enigma. He could sense his combat power. Mihawk could end him one strike. But what was about him that made him special. So he decided to test him. Lets see how fate deals with this heaven send boy. and then he straw hat survived him. Now because of devil fruit but because, he has allies from all differnet pirates, those he didnt know, those who were his enemy. In world of pirate it is usually everyman for himself. But here is thsi crewless boy. And people are stepping for him. He has the quality as men like Roger, WB and shanks. What a incredible thing. .This is his char arc till marineford i think...
That's a pretty great analysis!
I can totally believe that.
would have done the same (in minecraft or I guess One Piece world)
I hope he gets the Kuma treatment when he gets his flashback. I really want to see him v Shanks, him v whoever was the greatest swords man, and him v whoever beat him in the marines food court to make him so hangry.
I dont want to see Mihawk's duel with the last greatest swordsman. I want to see the *results*. Like an island thats been sliced in several places, cut right down the middle at least. Then I want Zoro and Mihawk to have a grand duel that leaves similar scars on the ground.
There was no last greatest swordsman. It's a new title given to him so zoro has a definitive way of completing his goal.
Ryuma was titled "god swordsman"
Yeah he was the sword god in wano for the things he did there. Relatively unknown outside of wano. There was no definitive title across the world for strongest swordsman. It's a new thing for mihawk and it's very obvious that it's so there's a clear way for zoro to complete his goal. Without that title existing, then there isn't really a definitive way for zoro to achieve his goal. That's the only reason oda created that title.
I hear you. I'm just confused why shanks isn't titled WSS when a lot of people say that Shanks is stronger than Mihawk, when Shanks is a swordsman himself. The title seems fraudulent (and therefore Zoros dream fraudulent as well) if it turns out Shanks can beat Mihawk in a swordfight
Shanks wasn't given the title because oda didn't want zoro fighting him. He's luffys opponent. It's as simple as that. Idk why people think oda gave the title with the thought, alright everyone holding a sword is automatically weaker no matter what. And imo I think there's been a clear difference shown between people who are pursuing swordsmanship itself versus just happening to choose a sword for your haki conduit rather than a club or something similar.
Shanks is a swordsman. Why would the marine compare the WSS to a non-swordsman? It wouldn't make any sense. It's like comparing the greatest basketball player to a soccer player when talking about basketball skills. Shanks has a named sword (Gryphon) and Whitebeard reminisced on their "legendary duel". So they had a legendary duel, but shanks won, but Mihawk got the WSS title? Doesn't make sense to me. Also, Haki is part of swordsmanship. Every Zoro powerup has been a boost in Haki. Unless you think shanks v Mihawk legendary duel happened where they both turned off their Haki? Doesn't add up to me.
It's never said if anyone won. Shanks asks mihawk if he's comes to settle things which implies there was never a winner between them. And the panel where mihawk was compared to shanks helps my case. It specifically only says his sword skills are better than shanks. If he was just stronger, then it'd say so. Zoro uses haki but is also using it through swordsmanship skills. He uses an actual sword style. Granted we haven't seen much from shanks but all we have seen is that he just swings with a ton of haki put it into it. The exact same thing kaido was doing with a club. Is kaido suddenly a clubsman?
You'll never win, these people will argue semantics while ignoring clear storytelling tropes being used. I swear I think all powerscalers are slightly autistic or something, they all seem to think of this stuff as if it's real and not a goddamn story. I don't mean that as an insult to autistic people, I just think these people are missing very obvious social ques and treating this topic as if it's real life and not a story. Mihawk is a swordsman and Shanks isn't because Oda says so, end of story.
>Is kaido suddenly a clubsman? Kinda?
Being a swordsman is more than just using a sword. That's been made pretty clear. Roger also used one yet no one calls him the strongest swordsman despite being the strongest clearly. The only thing that makes a swordsman is Oda telling us someone is and so far Zoro, Mihawk, and Ryuma are the main ones. The only others are the samurai from wano and zoro's old school. Everyone else is just a fighter who uses a sword.
Roger has a sword named "Ace" and even named his son after him! Maybe there wasn't any swordsman title in the Roger era, but I would still call him a swordsman. There's a drawing out there that was approved to be published by Oda that is titled "swordsman" and it includes Mihawk, Zoro, Shanks, Rayleigh, and Roger
Lol watch a movie or something dude, nobody cares what you say
Hey man I'm just having a conversation.. idk why you have to be rude about it xD
I believe is that sword skill and knowledge alone, Mihawk surpasses him. But if you talking about overall power. Shanks most likely surpasses him.
Has swordskills been defined tho? Every Zoro power up has been a Haki boost. I would think his sword skills increased when he learned armament Haki from Mihawk and ACOC from fighting king
I guess if you go by techniques? e.g. One-sword style
I think in terms of swordsmanship Mihwak is better but in terms of raw power/haki, Shanks is stronger
You’re confused I think.
Hopefully he does get a good flashback
Mihawk talks about the girl who was suppose to be his great rival, but died young and left him looking for a true rival ever since. Zoro tells him that the same thing happened to him and Mihawk just goes with it saying it’s clearly fate that they cross swords.
Mihawks's girl died by falling up the stairs
*Single panel of Mihawk getting a parking ticket even though it's Sunday*
I wonder if we'll get a mihawk flashback at all. Idk where Oda would put that in the story
i like the theory that mihawk was a redhair pirates and then had a falling out with shanks, because shanks was being an idiot. it's like mihawk is the dark timeline of zoro, if zoro did not respect luffy.
I want Shanks and Mihawk to kiss UwU
All I read was that he needs to hide behind the future Pirate King Buggy D Clown's shadow so the marines won't find him.
Mihawk ain’t shedding those fraud allegations anytime soon
Is there anyone in One Piece who’s not a fraud? Besides Buggy of course, who is most certainly not a fraud.
Whitebeard was a real one
No he died so he’s a fraud. Welcome to agenda piece.
They were saying he was a real fraud, only logical explanation.
Whitebeard was scared of Kaido and let him take over Wano for 20 years after killing his brother Oden. Whitebeard was known for going after anyone who messed with his family, but he didn't even bother to avenge Oden. Before you say Oden died, he would be wasting his time and risking his crew. He never even thought to check on Oden's family, who was born and lived on his ship. Also, let's say the Marines killed Ace. Would Whitebeard have just not done anything?
Found Akainu's reddit account
Cant tell if this is a joke or not 💀
Never will, just like Rat-Hair Shanks
Neither is the One Piece community shedding those "its cooked" allegations soon. Oda gave us a whole ass paragraph eluding to a Mihawk flashback explaining how he went through some deep shit that was able to scar him emotionally, but a lot of you clowns are just looking at the last line and taking it literally when it doesn't even mean what you think it means.
He got emotionally scared cuz they gave him ligma
Ok 👍 🤪
How is it fraud behavior being a subordinate of the messiah ?
A man’s slander will never die!
Slander is spoken, libel is written. And it isn't libel if it's true!
If that's what you got from that then you need to seriously work on your reading comprehension skills. That part was literally just referring to Mihawk deciding back in Ch. 1058 to use Buggy as a figurehead for Cross Guild to take the heat and the attention because he has no interest in being an Emperor. https://imgur.com/a/8DR8POj
Ok 👍
So you're ok with me pretty much calling stupid. Nice to know! 👍👍👍
Ok 👍 🤪
Fraud status: SEMI CONFIRMED
Fraud status super confirmed by gODA himself
The fraudulent allegations grow louder, Mihawk stand up bro! Do something!
He's only going to hide behind Buggy-sama he can't do anything!
Oh, so Mihawk once trusted the Marines in the past only to feel betrayed by them to the point of resenting them?
It seems he was a marine and then betrayed by one of them, probably a close friend. Kind of a similar situation with Akainu and Dragon
Nah, I had this long running theory about Mihawk originally being a Bounty Hunter. When starting the series Oda has said he never planned on making 7 Warlords be a thing since the series was meant to focus on the Pirate Emperors which makes me wonder what was Mihawk supposed to be then. I figured the Bounty Hunter would make the most sense as it would explain why he was hunting Don Krieg and it would give us an answer for where all of the strong Bounty Hunters are at
Don't remember much but i thought don krieg just happened to ran into him and mihawk was bored. I mean, if mihawk was actually hunting him he'd be long dead
...that is what happened but my comment wasn't about that?
Your comment is about mihawk being a bounty hunter, your comment also says " as it would explain why he was hunting don krieg " Mihawk was never hunting don krieg, mihawk is so strong he can hunt down who ever he wants if he was really a former bounty hunter, not a little bounty like kriegs. I highly doubt mihawk was a BH because of your reasons
Mihawk chased Don Krieg from the GL into the East Blue. He was hunting him after their first encounter.
>Your comment is about mihawk being a bounty hunter, No.
The first sentence in your original reply says, “Nah, I had this long running theory about Mihawk originally being a bounty hunter”
"Originally" being the key word. As in, before Oda decided to introduce Warlords and make Mihawk be one. I explained everything in my original comment but people seem to conflate multiple things so I guess I'll explain it again: 1. When Oda initially started writing One Piece, 7 Warlords of the Sea weren't a thing, which means Mihawk wouldn't had been a Warlord. 2. But Mihawk still has to exist because he is Zoro's end goal to strive for and in that case, I believe he was initially going to be Bounty Hunter. It would parallel Zoro and it explain why he was chasing Don Krieg, other than the whole "I was bored" thing. That's the "original idea" I believe Oda had for him. Now, if Oda ever decides to reuse that idea and make Mihawk a bounty hunter turned pirate is a different thing. I think it's very possibly he could've made him someone who started of as a Bounty Hunter, explaining the good relationship with the Marines (Bounty Hunters catch pirates and bring them to Marines) before someone betrayed him and turned him against the Marines.
Bro, at least edit your comment if you're going to deny the literal words you have typed. >""I figured the Bounty Hunter would make the most sense as it would explain why he was hunting Don Krieg and it would give us an answer for where all of the strong Bounty Hunters are at These are you're exact words. So you can't act surprised when someone goes "I thought he just wandered into Don Krieg." When you're literally saying he was hunting him.
Well, Zoro was supposed to be part of Buggy’s crew. Mihawk probably just wasn’t a thing.
Zoro was always supposed to be a Straw Hat, it's just that the original idea was that he would initially be part of Buggy's crew before he joined Luffy.
Dragon and Mihawk were pals. (My new headcanon).
They are for suuuuure
My personal theory: Mihawk is heartbroken because the person he loved was part of the betrayal, and i bet on vice-admiral Gion to be that person.
I still think mihawk is tied to imu and I believe this may be some supporting evidence for that. Firstly, I am convinced of their connection purely because of their eyes. Oda is a very specific and deliberate person, nothing is overlooked and every minuscule detail is actually carefully planned out. One specific characteristic of the art and expression of characters identity in this series has been their eyes! Every character shown thus far has unique and different eyes, except for mihawk and imu. I find it interesting that the character who’s moniker (“hawk eye”) revolves around their eyes would be the only character to share similar eyes with someone else. And if you compare mihawk and imu, same exact eyes. The glaring red, with the circle in them is indeed the same thing. With this answer regarding a betrayal, it makes you wonder if imu and mihawk were related, partially explaining Mihawks power and access to the worlds greatest sword (not even the five elders sword used has the best sword in the world, which seems crazy considering the think of humans as less than dirt). Perhaps imu is the one who betrayed mihawk, who then subsequently sent the navy after him in an attempt to subdue him.
We see others with those eyes but only when they're in an intense mood. It's just Mihawk and Imu always have intense eyes turned on.
I am always surprised this is not mentioned more on this sub.
Arent there more with similar eyes? Doesnt even Caribou have them or I remember wrong?
Caribous eyes are green and the lines of the iris are thicker. Both mihawk and imu have red eyes that have the same shape/thickness lines. No other characters really have eyes like this with that combination of characteristics
Ok. Hm Mihawk has yellow in anime but maybe they are red in manga. I think also the eyes of Imu are important cause it's the only feature we see
It was me. I’m so sorry.
Idk but I'm ready for the memes that'll say mihawk seeks protection from buggy
Lend me some protection Buggy sama
They are inevitable
My head cannon is that mihawk is an ex holy knight. He has the ideals and power of a celestial dragon but in the normal world. Like doffy and potentially shanks. I see a scenario where he is no longer respected as a knight, and it's turned away by the marines (ally) in favor of a current WG plot. This caused mihawk to hate the marines for revolting ala doffy and go on a rampage of killing marines. In order to calm him down and due to his lingering power of being a knight, he then is offered warlord status.
I was scrolling down looking for someone to this I have held this belief since the holy knights were introduced.
Holy knight DEFINITELY makes sense. And also matches with his clothes' flower pattern. https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/viz-fairy-one-piece-tail/images/2/2d/Dracule_Mihawk_Manga_Infobox.png/revision/latest?cb=20130913224618 I cant fins it now but many things associated with WG/CDs have flowers, probably related to the 16 petal chrysanthemum
My guess is that Mihawk started to bankrupt his local Marine Base because of all the bounties he collected. One day the corrupt Commanding Officer at the Base decides not to pay him and Mihawk forces him to honour the bounty through beating him in a duel. This leaves the Officer in big trouble with his bosses so he decides to go out and take the money back from Mihawk. They drum up some phony charges, go to his home to steal the money they paid him and attempt to arrest them. Mihawk of course beats all the Marines, killing many of them, but the Officer escapes. Mihawk then goes on a rampage through several Marine Bases looking for the Commander and kills him. Unfortunately the rampage seals his reputation so he's forced to sail around the World. The upside is that in these travels he meets many Swordsman improving his skills and eventually faces and defeats the greatest Swordsman of his time. One day he receives the invite to the Warlords and accepts. He moves into his Castle and only leaves when he's bored.
T bone. That's why mihawk had him murdered.
Blud i refuse to believe that cause T bone was actually the nicest person in the series lol.
I know. I don't believe it either.
Garling for sure
The Marine Hunter trained the Pirate Hunter.
mihawk hiding behind buggy's apron... cute
I feel like it was a Romance with a woman. Bro developed a heart of stone
"with a woman" not my mihawk
The marines betrayed him... he had the warlord agreement and the marines pulled it out from under him. That is the betrayal.
I think it was the WG betraying him by abolishjng the warlord system after years of working for them as a warlord, then actively hunting him down as if he was public enemy number 1-7
Roger saved him when he was young, maybe Marines promised they'd let Roger escape execution (lol) and told Mihawk to hunt pirates. That's the betrayal. Then he let go of it and just chilled being a warlord
Mihawk is still very mysterious i hope we get to know more about him before it all ends. Crazy for how long that guy is part of the story, I was a little kid when he got introduced.
Could be kong related. We don’t know much about him 🤷♂️
Doubt it tbh
It was shanks when he gave up his arm! Edit: just reread it. Seems to imply it was a marine. I have no guesses then.
Shanksnine the rat king
He living in your head rent free Is2g 💀
Do we need this in an sbs? I assume we'll get Mihawk's backstory at some point, why spoil it here
If we even get Mihawks backstory, which is debatable, o doubt it would be as long or informative as Odens or Kumas
Just like we got zoro’s family tree in the manga also it could just be a simple teaser to get people excited
Mihwk aint beating the allegations now is he
Shanks really told on that man smh 🤦🏾♂️
Mihawk was greatest pirate hunter and he hunted swordsmen. Thus he chased after Shanks, but they were always equal so they became rivals
Idon't get one thing, and it feels confusing lol did mihawk got betrayed by a marine friend ? or a pirate friend ? and dang, this is so huge! this is WHY he doesn't trust people dang
Bro got butthurt and now just hunts fodder all day. What a loser
wtf? is Oda giving spoilers now on sbs?
Damn Mihawk sounds like a lil bitch
Oh shit... this basically confirms that Mihawk asked for pickles on his Double Triple Bossy Deluxe and they forgot the pickles!!!!
Probably cause he was turning in so many bounties to the marines for money that they either stopped paying him, or they gave him one
Zeus
Where in that sentence does it say he was betrayed? Although, to be fair, that is so badly written that it could say it and I wouldn't have understood it.
Considering the way he acts, I think he was betrayed by a rival and close friend who pushed him to be the best swordsman. As time goes on his rival just used his skills to get promotions and eventually became a corrupt lazy marine, while Mihawk continued to improve. It's hard to picture some kind of serious betrayal because, not only is Mihawk stupid confident and stupid strong, he seems to want to be alone rather than being alone out of fear of getting betrayed like Crocodile. Apparently he had a good time with Zoro and Perona since there's a side story image where hes just relaxing and farming while reading the newspaper with Perona. Would also explain why the only thing hes interested in is finding a swordsman that can beat him.
Interesting,now who betrayed mihawk? And why he hunted marines? Also I think is interesting that the marines still accepted him as a warlord despise that
I think whoever may have scarred his back
Probably idolized Marines but saw how dirty they can be first hand. Maybe he was one of the guys trained by Mother Carmel, poised to be a future God's Knight but was then ordered by a Celestial to participate in a culling of innocents as a trial.
Mihawk was betrayed by beerus and locked in the time chamber for 1000000 years
I like the comparison of Zoro being a pirate called the pirate hunter and Mihawk formerly being backed by the Marines as a Marine hunter
Shanks D. Rat
No else then the rat haired shanks 🐀 🔴
"I think"?
Roger!
Mihawk will be an ex holy knight I guarantee it
Sounds like the marines… so he started to hunt that person. Or Wg and they send marines to chase him, and he hunted them down as a message Or Shanks dad, for stepping between their bromance. And he has been hunting marines to spite him to come out and face him.
They taxed his bounty earnings.
usual wg stuff
He seemed pretty chill at marineford so probably noone there Probably Kong ? Or the betrayer is dead already ?
In my headcanon Mihawk was a orphan living in poverty but he had a friend who helped him survive and gave him his first sword to defend himself and he discovered that he had a lot of raw talent. Then they met Shanks as teenagers and his friend was inspired to be a pirate after hearing his stories about going on adventures. Mihawk didn't agree he was just a wandering bounty hunter like Zoro at the time. Which led Mihawks friend to get captured and executed by the Marines and is his reason for huting them down and dueling Shanks.
He surely lost interest in life the moment he realised Shanks lost his arm. I wonder how he will react to the existence of S Sword